Video amazed me and broke my heart at the same time

[Myojine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9-CS2v8wcc
i have to say WOW. that guy Stole my heart.
after the wave of amazement i relized that hearing that broke my heart.
Ive ben trying SO HARD lately to get a female voice, trying to find a right pitch, sound whatever. and i just cant, ive looked at video after video on youtube and google, red pages about Falsetto, ect. its breaking my heart because theres even video contests for the MMORPG i play and i wanna narrate one SO BAD. but i just cant get a female voice to appear, what i thought was a fair nice voice i recorded and played back, and i broke out in tears, it sounded so stupid, and wrong. it sounded like a stupid gay guy(not bashing but best referance im sorry i dont know a better one >_<).
How do i Do it?!
Help? i cant afford speech training atm, ive been working for months and months now. and i just cant get anything to sound right or feminine.

[TNRobin]

There's a video on www.deepstealth.com that might be of some help. A few of the girls that I hang around with in Nashville have used it with varying degrees of success.

[Karen564]

Wow, he really does have an amazing voice ! :eek:

And he does an awesome job doing Beyonce too...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuVxOqoML4c&feature=related



Melanie Anne Phillips has helped me out immensely,:battingeyelashes:
http://heartcorps.com/journeys/voice.htm (http://heartcorps.com/journeys/voice.htm)


There was a guy I saw a while back on you-tube that did a good job at explaining how to achieve a female voice that I found helpful too...
Sorry, I don't have his link..

[Stephenie S]

Ive ben trying SO HARD lately to get a female voice, trying to find a right pitch, sound whatever. and i just cant, ive looked at video after video on youtube and google, red pages about Falsetto, ect. its breaking my heart because theres even video contests for the MMORPG i play and i wanna narrate one SO BAD. but i just cant get a female voice to appear
How do i Do it?!
Help? i cant afford speech training atm, ive been working for months and months now. and i just cant get anything to sound right or feminine.

I feel your anguish sweetie. It ain't easy, what you are trying to do.

Can I give you a few tips? See your quote above. Looking at video after video on YouTube and google won't get you anywhere. Reading pages about falsetto won't get you anywhere. Reading and watching just won't do it. Ya gotta DO it.

It's sort of like transition itself (and I assume that's where you are going because this is the transgender section of the forum and not the crossdresser section). You can wish and plan all you want, but you will only transition when you actually DO it. Voice is similar. You have to actually USE your voice in order to find your female voice.

Look, honey. The voices you see and hear on line are from the really GOOD ones. Some people are like that. They can just open their mouths and out comes whatever they want. Remember Robin Williams in Mrs Doubtfire? He spoke pretty well, huh? But he's an ACTOR for goodness sake, that's what he does for a living. And his character in that movie was a voice over actor for cartoons. So some people have no trouble with this. Those are the ones you see with videos on YouTube. The really good ones. Stop comparing yourself to them.

To find the voice you want you have to TALK. ALL THE TIME. Of COURSE it's gonna sound stupid. Especially at first. Nobody likes their recorded voice. You know that. Listen to your MALE voice on a recording. Like what you hear? Probably not. Most people will ask, "Do I really sound like THAT?"

So just talk, dear. Just use your voice. Copy women when you hear them. Repeat the last line of every female announcer on the radio while you are driving. COPY what they say.

Remember women talk funny. Women's voices are all over the map. There's high squeaky voices and low sultry voices, and everything in between. You are gonna find YOUR female voice, not the voice of some really good expert who has made a short on YouTube and is showing off. Stop reading, stop listening, and start talking. And understand that to you, it's gonna sound REALLY WIERD.

I often say that the best way to find your female voice is to transition. Then you HAVE to find it. 'Cause ya gotta talk. While you are only part time, you can always fall back on your guy voice and say, "Oh boo-hoo, I can't do it." But once you transition, once you go full time, you no longer have that option. It's put up or shut up time.

It's going to be a work in progress for some time. You can't expect to blossom, full bloom into woman hood, can you? It's gonna take some time. Your voice is just the same. It's gonna take some time. But IMHO you won't get it while you enjoy the luxury of falling back on your guy voice when it gets too hard.

Now just a bit of advice. You have to get your voice up out of your chest. You have to use your mouth and head for resonance. Hum in your mouth. Feel the vibration? That sound is NOT coming from your chest. Get your voice out of your chest. Get some musicality in your voice. COPY women. That's how THEY learned. Natal women aren't BORN talking. They learn, just like you did. How long did it take? A few years, right? And they didn't learn by reading about it. They learned by doing it. Ya gotta DO it.

So put on your big girl panties, suck it up, and just talk. You'll get it eventually.

Stephenie

[VanessaVW]

Even your male voice will sound differently to you recorded as opposed to you just speaking. I hate hearing my voice on tape.

[Kaitlyn Michele]

Stephanie is right...

i have the deep stealth video, i downlaoded some stuff online that came highly recommened...and i've been looking at melanies site for many many years (in extreme jealousy i might add..:heehee:)

i even went for 3 voice lessons...what a waste (altho some have had great results over a long time, they are prohibitively expensive)

the only way I've learned is by DOING...i still practice in my car, but since i started transition, every time i meet a person I learn a little bit more and more...my voice has improved leaps and bounds , and its finally good enough today that i am usually comfortable speaking...

unfortunately though where you end up also has a lot to do with where you start...

the only tip that helped me is that you can practice getting that adam's apple up up up in your throat and that will help no matter how deep your voice..

and finally, i have met alot of girls over the last year..we are very tough on ourselves...i have RARELY heard what i consider to be a passable female voice, and yet most of the women i know are totally cool about it, and seem to pass well voicewise....

my voice literally stopped me from considering transition for a long time...but now i sometimes get maamed on the phone without giving a name and feel more comfortable everyday..

looking at video's of the 1 in a million voices that can flit from male to female to beyonce to sinatra is not a good use of your time unless you like punishing yourself..and i'm not joking...please stop punishing yourself...:hugs:

[Carole Cross]

Singing is a good way to improve your vocal range and it helps to loosen up your vaocal chords. You can do it almost anywhere without people realising what you are trying to achieve. I have been doing this now for over six months and have noticed a vast improvement, I can now easily sing higher pitched notes without straining my voice. It may take longer for you since I used to sing in a choir when younger and know about that aspect of voice training. It really does help, try it for a few months along with other methods mentioned here.

Training your voice is hard and requires a lot of practice before you get it right, mine still needs alot of work and I am starting my RLE next month. Don't give up, keep at it, you will get there. :hugs:

[Faith_G]

What Stephanie, Kate, and Carole said.

My voice is getting better but it is by no means great. It is good enough that I no longer get the "OMG, that's a guy!" look from cashiers when I buy things. I still have a hard time keeping it up for a whole conversation.

I sing a lot in the truck - even if it's a guy I just go a half step up and harmonize.

What I feel has helped the most is making my internal monologue external. Instead of thinking silently to myself I talk to myself (only when I'm alone, obviously - don't want folks to think I've gone completely dotty). This gives me lots of practice, and more importantly my internal monologue is now female - so I don't have to "translate" from male speech to female speech on the fly. It's a feeling similar to when you become fluent enough in a second language to be able to think in that language instead of having to translate from your mother tongue - does that make sense?

The hardest part now is not going too girly at work. It also sometimes take a little work to get back into female voice after a long day playing the guy.

[Myojine]

so im wondering if i should put off learning heavy metal vocals?
one of my aspirations is singing heavy metal.
im getting better and closer but is realy does screw up your voice...
i live heavy metal because its a genera of music i can use to convey the stories of pain and suffering in life(being the hell whole of a life mine has been), i can relate.
i guess female first, screams later, well time to change gears, i dont wanna get up on stage as a male anyways.
Planning on doing my first concert appearnace in US Army ACUs :devil:

[MJ]

i hear you sister. :hugs: me i just give up

[AKAMichelle]

It is hard for most of us to obtain a passable voice. It can be that one thing which may give us away even after transition.

You are witnessing in this video years of work and lots of voice training. You can achieve whatever you want. It may take more than you expected to achieve your life long dream, but you can do it. You may need some help voice training to get you started.

[Jessinthesprings]

While my voice is far from perfect I can pass about 70% of the time on the phone. While this is hardly scientific I did it by singing. More specificaly I used Keroke Revolution for X-Box. The game is fun and you get on the spot feed back on your pitch, and driving to work I sing along as practice. This of course only one aspect of a female voice.

[Byanca]

Those videoes are amazing. The voice is soo important. There is a woman here. Huge shoulders, and overall so masculin looking, but with the most imaginable girly voice. So cute. The rest just fades away. If one can get this down, one have a huge ace upe the sleeve.

I'm truly amazed by the singer. It's an interested paralell to here. Not actually crossdressing, but the abstract notion of it. I think he looks very girly also when he sings, really lives the part. Very good.

I'm also horrible with this. But I won't give up.

[noeleena]

Hi .
This does seem to be a problem for many ,

Im not going to say whats the best way to over come this ,
i did a lot of singing in choires . & yet i have a baratone voice to base yet can still go up to a soft female voice ,im not saying its a female sound just good enough to be acceptable,

Even if you dont attain that voice, work on your other attributes that help you to , be acceptable as a female or like me ,
i am accepted as a woman & theres no problems with the people i deal & talk with & i spend a lot of time with my women friends ,
as to voice iv never heard any one say oh your , voice is not ummm, female enough , they dont care they know me for who i am & this goes for complete strangers .
im not talking about a few im saying 100 s of people .

Dont get hung up on your voice other wise you ll miss out on so much . just get out there & go for it & just talk with people ,

I know some will say oh yea its easy for you . meaning me , because im a woman , well it was not allways the case . i can tell you . try 50 years of struggling with talking let alone people & strangers no way , so iv had to over come many details in my life to get where i am to day . its damm hard
I know iv said this before

Try standing in front of 130 people & talk . try over two millon people in front of them . & with my voice . not sounding like a natal woman yet be accepted for who you are ,or who i am , yes i spos it takes guts to do that ,
well if we wont to be accepted then we have to,
just get the basics first then meet with people around you, then go from there .

...noeleena...