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minalost
05-08-2010, 03:52 PM
Everyone wonders why perfectly “normal (I actually hate that word, but it fits here…)” hetero men want to dress as women. Heck, it’s one of the most common topics posted on this forum. And I know, not all of us here ARE heterosexual men. But for those of us that are, I’ve noticed a tendency to put “real” women “on pedestals.” We idealize them, and want to imitate our idealized perceptions of what a “real” woman is. We are in love with all things feminine (or at least in all things we each feel is feminine…). They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and that is what some of us, I think, are doing. We love women and our idealized fantasy of what we think they are so much that we want to BE them. I don’t think this is the end-all be-all of why we (as in us heterosexual men) crossdress, but I do think it may be a contributing factor.
How about the rest of you? Do you love “all things feminine?” And, is trying to imitate what you love part of the reason you crossdress?
:hugs:
Cassandra Lynn
05-08-2010, 04:07 PM
I would have to say that is somewhat true for me. And like it is said on here quite a lot, we are constantly watching all those distinctly feminine attributes,
and admiring it when we see the woman who just has it all going on.
But while i love all things feminine on real women, i'm not going to adopt all those things and try to imitate all those things. Some of those gestures or mannerisms are distinctly individualistic to each woman, and as we strive to be feminine some of our likes and dislikes will be inherently personalized to fit our own persona's. In fact some of that will be at a subconscious level.
mj (Cassie)
sissystephanie
05-08-2010, 09:30 PM
I will answer this in the only way that I know! I LIKE most things that are considered feminine!! I LOVE my late wife, my daughter, and one other lady!! And I do love to wear feminine garments, of all kinds! As I have said many times before, I love the fit. feel, and look of feminine garments on myself. But I have no desire whatever to be a woman!! I just like to dress like one!!
The only women that I put on a pedestal are the 3 ladies I mentioned above. Of course I like other women, but they are not on a pedestal in my life!
Fab Karen
05-08-2010, 09:44 PM
"perfectly normal heterosexual men":rolleyes:
Jonianne
05-08-2010, 09:50 PM
.....is trying to imitate what you love part of the reason you crossdress?
I have always asserted that the role models that I have followed in my life have been women.
I have never consciencelessly desired to "let in" a male as a role model, although I have been around many good men and learned much from them. Having a male as a role model just never appealed to me.
Yes, I believe that is a part of the reason why I crossdress to be like women.
Frédérique
05-09-2010, 01:40 AM
How about the rest of you? Do you love “all things feminine?” And, is trying to imitate what you love part of the reason you crossdress?
Yes, I love all things feminine, but I really don’t want to get into another discussion about what “feminine” means. Men in women’s clothing are all around us, even in this thread, dressing in a superficial manner to appease one desire or another. Crossdressing goes way beyond costume – this is an irrefutable fact, but WHOA!!! :doh: The purveyors of all things external don’t want to hear about anything contrary to their own personal take on “female.” That characteristic alone is masculine, or anti-feminine, I should say – stubborn to a fault and proud of it, but I digress…
If a man slips on a pair of panties now and then, he’s a crossdresser, and he’s allowed to traipse among the other flowers on this site. He brings all of his male toys and attitudes with him, which is just fine, but I would like to meet and engage an open, sensitive mind around here from time to time. Are you at least trying to be less masculine? What’s it really worth to you? Do you ever think about where you are, what it all means, and where you might (or could) be heading? I think many heterosexual males are scared of the term “effeminate,” and they worry that their fetishistic crossdressing might bring them closer to this undesired state. It’s a pity, because they are missing out on a whole world of feelings that would make for a genuine transformation, less sexual and more actual...
People (males) misunderstand me all the time. I try to push across the idea of anti-masculinity, which leads to embracing certain ideas that can be accurately described as “feminine,” simply because I’m trying to meet individuals who are tuned in to a different wavelength. The truly feminine MtF members are gentle and shy, compassionate and friendly, saddened by the ugliness of all things male but are non-confrontational about it. You can be male and still be feminine – I prove it every day by getting in touch with effeminacy and exploring a path that not many males have the courage to take. Please join me – you’ll find that I’m rather gentle by nature, and it doesn’t matter what path you have chosen. I want to meet kindred spirits, ones who know that this femininity comes from within (in all of us) – the crossdressing is just the outer wrapper for a beautiful gift to oneself…
I have a friend here who pointed out (quite eloquently) that, “When the Male comes out, She goes away.” Nobody seems to make a connection between how you’re dressed and how you are inside. I don’t agree that most heterosexual males put women on a pedestal – I know they prefer them to be in a more supine position, since they wish to retain their maleness at all costs, failing to understand what their beloved dressing-up could represent. It all takes effort, but I'm here to tell you it’s worth it…:battingeyelashes:
susanaCD1988
05-09-2010, 02:01 AM
i love all things feminine because i would like to become on in the future.:)
Deborah Jane
05-09-2010, 02:18 AM
I am a perfectly [normal?] hetero man with the desires and interests of a man.
I just prefer presenting as a woman and ideally would like to have the body to go with it.
Do you love “all things feminine?” And, is trying to imitate what you love part of the reason you crossdress?
:hugs:
Yes, absolutely, is the answer to the first question and, yes, I guess also to the second question. Although, it's more that I want to BE feminine rather than imitate it. For me, the more feminine I can be, the better! :battingeyelashes:
MargaretJ
05-09-2010, 06:39 AM
As a "normal" hetero man, my interest in cross dressing stems from when I was a youngster in the early sixties. Back then, mens clothing was very drab, and all the same style. As young as 4 or 5 years old, I can remember thinking it was unfair that womens clothing was very colourful and looked different, and that they had great things to wear, especially high heels.
Kate Simmons
05-09-2010, 07:00 AM
The ideal goal in my mind is not to idealize either but to take ownership of and utilize those things which make us happy and functional people.:)
TGMarla
05-09-2010, 08:56 AM
I love all things feminine, like you said. But rather than crossdress to imitate women that have been placed on a pedestal, I do so in order to bring that femininity unto myself. Given the choice, I'd rather be able to live my life from a feminine base rather than from a masculine one. The short hours during which I can crossdress and emulate a beautiful woman as best I can, allow me to exist as a feminine person once in a while. It brings me peace of mind, joy, and contentment, if only for a while.
tamarav
05-09-2010, 08:58 AM
I often describe myself as being a "femmophile", loving all apsects of the feminine. Sometimes that takes different forms but the adoration is always on my mind. Eveery woman is beautiful in their own way.
Madilyn A.
05-09-2010, 09:09 AM
I love all things feminine, like you said.............. Given the choice, I'd rather be able to live my life from a feminine base rather than from a masculine one. The short hours during which I can crossdress and emulate a beautiful woman as best I can, allow me to exist as a feminine person once in a while. It brings me peace of mind, joy, and contentment, if only for a while.
I have come to think of myself more as female than male, more feminine than male. I adore women, and do believe in the gender continuum, and everyone has some male and female traits, I believe I have far more female than male.
Tina B.
05-09-2010, 09:41 AM
The ideal goal in my mind is not to idealize either but to take ownership of and utilize those things which make us happy and functional people.:)
:iagree:
Tina B.
eluuzion
05-09-2010, 10:29 AM
hmmm...
I think of it more along the order of...
Several years ago when I was young and impulsive (now I am older and impulsive, lol), I really liked BMW cars. Every time I saw one I thought about how much fun the BMW drivers seemed to be having. So I decided to buy one and I did. I loved it.
The difference here is that I wanted to feel and enjoy what the drivers were feeling and enjoying. I wanted the car. I did not want to be the drivers that were driving the cars.
Cheryl T
05-09-2010, 02:11 PM
I have to agree with Madilyn A.
I think of it more as a continuum also, a sliding scale with the ultra macho at one end and the ultra feminine at the other (whatever those 2 actually are I don't know).
Over the many years I have attempted to understand my desires and needs in this regard I have come to the conclusion that I, like many, are more female than male, more feminine than masculine. I think in many respects I am more transsexual than crossdresser, though I am not mentally or emotionally in need of SRS. This has come to light in many ways. One in particular was a conversation I was having with 2 girls in my Tri-Ess chapter. The subject of wearing skirts came up and one said "isn't that why we do this, so we can wear skirts and dresses?". Without pause I immediately responded, NO. It took a little time for my answer to sink in for me and now I understand why. It's not about being able to wear the clothes, it's about the clothes allowing others to see how I feel inside and allowing me to express that part of me that is feminine in the same way that any woman does.
Sometimes I wear a dress if the occasion dictates. Sometimes a skirt and blouse, but I am just as happy and comfortable in a pair of slacks or jeans whereas I know CD's that have great disdain for jeans and slacks. As one put it, "I can wear jeans as a guy, why would I want to as a girl?".
Everyone has their own tastes and needs.
Staci
05-09-2010, 08:14 PM
I'm not sure I love ALL things feminine. I do love all things I feel are feminine. The great thing about dressing as the other sex is you get to choose what parts of it you want/like. How great is that!! None of the daily grind stuff of being a girl. All the frilly, fancy, fun parts of being a girl. :battingeyelashes:
Jilmac
05-09-2010, 08:59 PM
Mina, I think I can also say that I like all things feminine. But that's just one out of a multitude of factions for my dressing. I also have four female siblings so I sort of grew up with that feminine bond. I applaud the fact that women can look good dressed to the nines, or simply in a warmup suit. Yes, I love to emulate the feminine presonna because of my appreciation of women. :love:
Rachel Morley
05-09-2010, 09:17 PM
With the repeated use of the word "heterosexual" in your post; I fail to see any connection with my liking of all things feminine and the type of people I like to have sex with :confused: ... that said, I do agree with you that I do have a tendency to put all women on a pedestal and I do see them as people to look up to and that all of them are my role models (in one way or another). I can't help it, I just wanna be like them. I know I can't be female but I can try to be feminine :)
MrKunk
05-09-2010, 09:40 PM
Everyone wonders why perfectly “normal (I actually hate that word, but it fits here…)” hetero men want to dress as women?
Well for one thing yes most of us are attracted to women, but we also feel more feminine and feel girly and that is the difference between the stereotypical normal guy and a crossdresser.
SusanLeigh3454
05-09-2010, 09:59 PM
Everyone here wants to develop their feminine side. It is an element of discovery. Except in fiction, feminization is our choice and the path that we choose to follow. To me, it is a wonderous journey.
AKAMichelle
05-10-2010, 12:16 AM
I was thinking the same thing the other day. I think we do idolize them so much that we want to be one up to a point. We don't want to have the surgery because we know that we are still men.
I often wonder if this isn't why I am such a romantic. Men usually aren't romantic nuts like me. I am the exception. In fact my wife and I are getting a divorce. We had to split the movies as part of the divorce and I was mad because I had to give up some of my chick flicks to her. So here I am today at Walmart buying 6 of my chick flicks back.
minalost
05-10-2010, 01:53 PM
...for your responses. Interesting as always.
:hugs:
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