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Elizabeth Ann
05-17-2010, 06:57 PM
I have always thought of myself as a "late onset crossdresser." I never seriously dressed as a woman until my 50's. Moreover, I never had any desire to do so until then.

Recently, however, I told my therapist (who is not a CD specialist. I went for depression) that I had the "usual boyhood fascination with women's underwear." I jokingly said that it was a sexual fetish brought on by my only source of pornography: the Sears and Roebuck catalog. I would occasionally put on panties, but that was it. Bras were Terra Incognita.

I was surprised when she disagreed with me. Sure, all boys have a fascination with lingerie, she said, but not many put them on.

Now I know this is exactly the opposite group to poll on this, but I don't really want to go around to all my male buddies asking if they ever wore panties as a boy. So I am asking you all if my therapist is correct. I really, honestly thought that this was a typical thing for boys to do with the bathroom door locked. It felt like it had nothing to do with me and everything to do with females.

I have a bad premonition about the answers I am going to get, but please remember that I am not asking about you or your motivation, but whether you thought, or had any evidence that most boys played with panties from time to time.

Thanks,
Liz

sandra-leigh
05-17-2010, 07:11 PM
Dunno -- the only point of comparison I really have is me.

I do not clearly remember putting on panties, but considering the things I do clearly remember, it would have been surprising if I didn't. I did not, however, have any fascination with the Sears Roebuck catalog's womens sections.

BRANDYJ
05-17-2010, 07:15 PM
From various things I've read over the years, I think your therapist is wrong. Kids do experiment with sexual things. Some at a very early age if not at the onset of puberty. This includes trying on lingerie. Most of course don't get hooked on it and move on. It's well known that little boys might even experiment with other boys,(maybe even a few girls) but the majority don't become gay or bisexual.
If you could poll non crossdressing males, I think most would not admit it. Us males have to protect that macho image and all.

Angiemead12
05-17-2010, 07:27 PM
chances are the answers you will get from the forum are yes they have tried it on as a kid and got hooked.

If you ask some manly men, then they will probably deny it!

StaceyJane
05-17-2010, 07:31 PM
Yes, I tried on my mom's underwear when I was a teenager.

suchacutie
05-17-2010, 07:38 PM
I'm also in the situation that I never even thought of having a feminine side until my 50s (As I sit here is my new wig (not sure I like it at all) a lovely teal dress, shoes to match, etc).

However, the first panties I ever tried on was in y 50s, they were my wife's, and it had nothing to do with crossdressing (yes, it was THAT kind of thing!). But, it was only 3 years later that I first dressed totally for my wife, and that was X dressing!

I'm probably unusual for CDs in general!

tina

NicoleScott
05-17-2010, 07:44 PM
I'd be surprised if more than a small percentage of boys didn't want to try something femme on. But how many would admit to it?
It wasn't panties for me, it was lipstick and high heels. And different things for others. I would bet that the desire (but not necessarily the act) is present in nearly all boys at some time.

Angie G
05-17-2010, 07:57 PM
I put on skirts and dresses long before I got my hands on any panties.:hugs:
Angie

Deborah Jane
05-17-2010, 08:00 PM
I started dressing when I was a kid, but don't know if my friends tried it because it never crossed my mind to ask them.

Super Amanda
05-17-2010, 08:17 PM
I used to work in a floor tile warehouse, operating a forklift and working around "manly men" both customers and fellow employees.

Near the end of my time there, I thought I was getting close to coming out, and had dressed that Halloween, making it three years in a row.

I made sure the next day to "accidentally" mention my "costume" the next day to the guys, and I just happened to have a few cell phone pics as proof.

First comment after passing around my phone: "You look better than ****** wife!" ... inside I was ecstatic...then to my surprise came the confessional moment... "My sisters used to dress me up sometimes" and "I've dressed like a girl before, no big deal" and the most shocking story from a particularly manly co-worker about a make out session with a "friend" dressed up as a woman at a club!

So, I think given the fact that they had just saw pics of me fully done up, let them, if only for the span of that conversation, drop the tough guy act for a moment.

So yes, my answer is yes. I think wayyyyy more guys do it than will EVER admit it!

Kate Simmons
05-17-2010, 09:05 PM
Every boy wants to initially be like Mom. Where else does he learn about caring and sharing and family values? Somewhere along the line, most decide they want to conform to what the other guys are doing due to societal and peer pressure. We are the general exception to the rule and take being like Mom a step further.:)

brassieres
05-17-2010, 09:06 PM
Every boy wants to initially be like Mom. Where else does he learn about caring and sharing and family values? Somewhere along the line, most decide they want to conform to what the other guys are doing due to societal and peer pressure. We are the general exception to the rule and take being like Mom a step further.:)

I was raised principally by women, that is probably where my desire comes from.

ReineD
05-17-2010, 09:11 PM
I agree with your therapist. Although it is common for children to experiment about a number of things, boys who try on articles of women's clothing more than once or twice are likely predisposed to being CDs.

Following is an excerpt written by an expert on the subject, Dr. Ray Blanchard (http://individual.utoronto.ca/ray_blanchard/#biography), Professor of Psychiatry, University of Toronto, in his book "Clinical management of gender identity disorders in children and adults", Chapter 3.

http://individual.utoronto.ca/ray_blanchard/GID_Men.pdf


Transvestite boys begin secret cross-dressing in childhood or puberty, rarely later than mid·adolescence. The first act of cross-dressing is sometimes preceded by a period of fascination with women's garments. Articles of c1othing - often, but not always, underwear - are usually borrowed without permission from a mother, sister, or other female in the household. The source of the clothing (e.g., mother versus sister) does not seem to have any special significance but rather appears a matter of opportunity and circumstance.

sometimes_miss
05-17-2010, 10:07 PM
It's obvious that this is the wrong place to ask this question; but if it helps, it didn't occur to me to put on girls clothing until someone else did it to me. By age about three and a half to four, I knew wearing girls stuff was somehow not 'right', and refused to wear my sisters hand me downs anymore. When my mom had me wear her old panties that she had sewed blue and red stripes into, while I knew I had done it a lot when I was younger, it still felt wrong to do it, and I was always worried someone would notice. Of course, after someone started me along the path of thinking I was really a girl, it all sort of made perfect sense to wear girl clothing and why I was dressed that way so much when I was much younger. Sort of a horrible positive feedback loop of twisted logic.

Cherry Lynn
05-17-2010, 10:09 PM
I was fascinated with the Sears & Roebuck catalog also as a young boy. I began trying on my moms panties and bras at a young age and also enjoyed wearing her high heels. Maybe your therapist is right.

juno
05-17-2010, 11:02 PM
I agree with your therapist. Although it is common for children to experiment about a number of things, boys who do more than try on articles of women's clothing once or twice are likely predisposed to being CDs.


My guess is that trying panties once or twice at some point is common. Finding it pleasing is less common. It depend whether you count the children who tried it once on a whim and felt weird about it.

NathalieX66
05-17-2010, 11:12 PM
I was eight when I was hanging with my across the street neighbor of the same age & and his likewise friends, and we found his older sisters' ballerina tutu/leotoard in the garage, Some of us boys wore it and took it as a joke. I tried it because I felt I had to.
It was just another outlet for me, not a formative experience. I was already there.

ReineD
05-17-2010, 11:20 PM
My guess is that trying panties once or twice at some point is common. Finding it pleasing is less common. It depend whether you count the children who tried it once on a whim and felt weird about it.

That's what I meant. :) Trying something once or twice is common. But doing it more than that as you say indicates pleasure and an inclination to cross the gender barriers.

Rachell
05-18-2010, 06:43 AM
I can remember getting in my sisters closet and trying on her dresses but not her panties or other underwear.I don't remeber doing that till I was in my twenty's and going through a tough time in my first marriage. I think your therapist is wrong
Rach:D:D:D:D:D

mklinden2010
05-18-2010, 07:21 AM
Therapists are people. People are prone to inexact declarations. I don't think "all" boys play with panties. If just one, out of billions, doesn't, then the statement is false.

Most people, however, try all sorts of things, even if only in their heads, as they go through life. They touch things, taste things, see things, try to change things. It's how people figure out gravity, sweet and sour, hot and cold, big dogs and little dogs...

Each of us picks up things in life, and, puts things down in life. At any given time, we are doing, or, not doing something.

Seems like the older we get, the more likely we are to pick and keep some things, and not others. But, that just may be how things seem. In fact, we may change all our lives.

You didn't ask for CDers motivations. But, if things work for someone, they are liable to repeat, experiment, and improve on those things. One activity can conflict with another - and we may not be happy having to make choices.

But, that's life - you have to work it out to suit yourself, until you suit yourself, or, you just keep working at it... And working at it, and working at it, and, working at it.

There are times when it it wise to stop chasing oneself around a tree and to just enjoy the peace and quiet.

Freddy12
05-18-2010, 07:26 AM
I can only speak for myself. I enjoyed seeing pictures of women in panties from an early age, but did not try any on until I was in my late teens. I surpressed the urge for years, but it has always resurfaced.

Ellen James
05-18-2010, 07:30 AM
I know that I did it as an older boy and a young teen - I don't know that either of my brothers tried it as well. However, I know that one brother did try on some girl's clothing left by a cousin who stayed with us but I don't think that he continued his interest later.

Engendered
05-18-2010, 08:32 AM
I never really saw the fascination with "panties". Dresses/skirts appealed to my sense of feminity as a kid, but not underwear. Probably because I was an overly innocent kid.

Jenny Doolittle
05-18-2010, 08:44 AM
I have to disagree with you completely...... It was the JC Penny catalog!


Dreams of a little boy :daydreaming: How nice those days were.

Oh. about your original question.... I cant speak for others, just me.

Empress Lainie
05-18-2010, 09:15 AM
Like others I can only relate my own experience.
I had no brothers.
I remember wearing my sister's skirt when I was playing Greek Soldier in the 2nd or 3rd grade.
I wore my sister's dress when I was about 12 because she stole my pants and was wearing them.
I wore my sister's dress for halloween when I was 13 and enjoyed it.

Other than that I never had any CD desires, so I guess I am strange as a transexual woman, since it seems that many did do CD before they transitioned or began transition, at least from what I read on this site.

Sexual experience at about 8 4 or 5 us boys played as a train,
I hate to admit that it was my idea. We only did it once, in a ditch. A couple of other boys and I played fencing nude. But that was nothing sexual as was the original thing, We were all too young to know anything about sex..

Frédérique
05-18-2010, 09:26 AM
I have always thought of myself as a "late onset crossdresser." I never seriously dressed as a woman until my 50's. Moreover, I never had any desire to do so until then.
I was surprised when she disagreed with me. Sure, all boys have a fascination with lingerie, she said, but not many put them on. So I am asking you all if my therapist is correct.

I also came to crossdressing late, but not as late as you did. In my case, the idea had been germinating for a long time, and I “emerged” in an anti-climactic fashion…

I recall the Sears Roebuck catalogs (remember catalogs?) and the images of panties. I wasn’t so much enamored with lingerie as I was fascinated with female anatomy. I’m still fascinated by that, :heehee: but I take no particular interest in panties. They’re nice, and they feel good, but I don’t worship them. Ditto for bras and all other lingerie – a means to an end, I suppose…:straightface:

Aneline
05-18-2010, 11:19 AM
hmm. Very interesting discussion. I have never discussed cross dressing with men outside of this forum so I have no idea how common it is to just try on an item of women's clothing once or twice and not do it again. When I was about 7 I put on some of my Mom's lipstick and immediately liked the look and feel of it and continued messing around with her makeup whenever I had the chance. Not long after that I had an opportunity to try on a pair of panties and loved the feel immediately.

ChanDelle
05-18-2010, 12:16 PM
When little it was lipstick and earrings/jewelry that fascinated me. Panties were never my thing, but each to "her" own...

ChanDelle

t-girlxsophie
05-18-2010, 01:33 PM
did the therapist have any scientific findings to back this theory up or just their own opinion.i would suggest probably the latter.Personally if a therapist told me the grass was green i would have to look out the window just to make sure lol

carhill2mn
05-18-2010, 02:31 PM
IMHO most boys are intriqued/fascinated with girls underwear. I suspect that more than a few tried them on once or twice. They tried it but didn't like it that much.
Then there are the few of us who continued this activity for long periods of times and also increased our efforts to "dress". We experienced a whole different level of satisfaction from these activities and continue in our efforts to repeat these good feelings.

Schatten Lupus
05-18-2010, 03:09 PM
I don't know how accurate the numbers are, but I have seen statistics that most men have at least tried on a pair of panties at some point in there lives.

Lina_Wang
05-18-2010, 04:18 PM
At the age of 4, I tried on my mom's lipstick in secret, but that's the only early memory I have of any experimenting... there were no urges or thoughts about it until around my 17-18 year of age, where I discovered xdressing, but had no thoughts about it at all before that.

tricia_uktv
05-18-2010, 05:27 PM
I suppose the answer is that I diod whenever I could.

I then felt the guilt, the agony, the thoughts that I was a bad person.

But I'm not, and I'm happy.

So I'm not sure it matters.

Tasha McIntyre
05-18-2010, 06:49 PM
I put on skirts and dresses long before I got my hands on any panties.:hugs:
Angie

Ditto.....purely outer wear for me, dresses and skirts only until very recently.
In fact my first experiment with hair and make up was only about 20 months ago.

Tash :)

Tess
05-18-2010, 08:27 PM
Sears & Roebuck catalog...it must be a generational thing. Ours was kept in the bathroom along with the cloths hamper so I guess it was a trap waiting to spring on a 12 year old boy. Kids today must be getting started with Victoria's Secret.

Nicola2876
05-19-2010, 04:08 AM
I had feelings of wanting to be a girl way before I ever tried on any feminine clothes. Clothes were just a natural progression of these feelings

Satrana
05-19-2010, 04:29 AM
I believe that there is a substantial fetish amongst men for female underwear, however the fetish revolves around the objects themselves or seeing a women wear them. Only CDs desire to wear the articles for their psychological appeal.

Yes childhood play experimentation is very common and almost all boys will at some point play with female garb. One mistake many CDs make it is to pinpoint an early innocent childhood play moment and claim that was the beginning of their CDing when in fact their desire to dress began many years later. It goes to show that the opportunity has to coincide with a desire to cross the gender barrier for a CD to be created and these feelings typically appear in the years either side of puberty.

gemsay32
05-20-2010, 12:17 AM
For me it was spandex shorts :) I just had to have em. I remember me and my friend used to talk. He told me wear them inside out because the smooth part was on the outside. Even though I got some I never had the guts to wear them outside my room even though my friends wore them. I think the difference between me and them was that it was pleasurable - that's why I got so nervous! My friend liked the smoothness, but he was never shy to wear them like me. Maybe he was just not as uptight as me? I don't know for sure. And then I discovered female stuff..... everything, not just underwear!

Well... before spandex shorts it was a polyester male shirt (shiny and smooth kind of from the 70's). I remember looking awkwardly at a lady in a silk dress walk by the playground. I was too young for sexual thoughts, but it caught my eye magnetically. I had a fascination with smooth and shiny things when I was a little bitty child.

Oh and sears/jcpenney/etc catalogs! When I was a few years older and had explored my fetish some more (14 or 15 maybe) I loved to open the catalogs and etc etc etc etc. I won't say what I did.

Tomiko
05-20-2010, 02:30 AM
Had I had some easily available to me, I might have, but... I never would have dared sneak into my mom's pantie drawer as a kid, and that would have been my primary source at that age. However curious I might have been, I wasn't that curious... lol.

I remember being tempted to try on a bra a couple of times, but again... I guess I was too chicken, but I was tempted nonetheless.

Billie1
05-20-2010, 04:54 AM
I was surprised when she disagreed with me. Sure, all boys have a fascination with lingerie, she said, but not many put them on.


Hi, Liz

Actually, I believe that she is correct.
While, yes, almost all young boys have, shall we say, a special "interest" with the lingere and swimsuit sections of the Sears (or if real lucky, the FOH) cataloge, only a small percentage actually put them on. And even a smaller percentage, myself included, put them on again. And again. And again.

A childhood event, involving a couple of school chums, and his sister's ballet tutu (go ahead, figure out the rest for yourself) proved this point to me many years ago.

noeleena
05-20-2010, 06:08 AM
HI.

For this kid in 1958 i was dressed up as a girl like 4 others boys . for a pantomime for our church end of year do. & singing as well & make up it was good tho in front of 80 to 100 people & i still had make up on when i went home,

To get the look i tryed talcum powder on & rubbed my lips to get them red. of cause in the bath room on many nights . still did not dress, knickers pantes what ever, no nore wonted to.
Manly because i did not see any difference between male & female.
weird you may think i was.

...noeleena...

Andromeda
05-20-2010, 09:08 AM
I suspect that a fairly high percentage of young men have worn woman's clothing, if only as a result of their erotic exploration. I also suspect that most will lie about doing so. After all they are not going to want to admit even to themselves much less their friends that they ever did something so "perverted". We may know better, but, we are talking about "normals" and not fellow cross dressers. This also assumes that they even remember having done so and they may not just because this was a "red letter" for us does not make it one for them. On the subject of "porn catalogs" I fondly remember the Sears, Wards, Pennies and latter the Victoria's secret catalogs.

JOY445
05-20-2010, 10:50 AM
yup..lipstick is whhat did it for me, my mom had a woel of lipsticks on the counter...i watched fascinated, everytime she applied some ( and my mom always did the old fashioned tissue blot) those lipmarked tissues were the badge of femininity to this outside observer.
Then alone one day and daring to try one labele "paint the town pink" i got my first jolt of electricity accompanied by that bwonderful perfume that some brands have...you know what i mean dontcha ladies?
This led to her high heels and finally lingerie.
before thirteen i was searfing my moms bustier, girdle with garters and nylons ander my school clothes oh yeah panties went wiith the package. hahahah

Joy

faltenrock
05-20-2010, 11:33 AM
sometimes I wish it never started for me, that was at about 13 years or so. I also have the wish, that the desire would just disappear, such as right now, where I feel a bit depressed, then dressing takes up too much of my time and energy and thoughts.

Paula Siemen
05-20-2010, 12:08 PM
Every time my sister and everyone else was out of the house.....I was in her pants!!!! and then her bras. I was always scared of wearing her hose though for fear of running them. Never her makeup of shoes though. Occasionally I could find a dress or bathing suit to wiggle into. It was such a turn on for me. Now I have all my own stuff and love it all.
Paula

Jenny Wilson
05-21-2010, 12:15 AM
I’ve always loved satiny fabrics. As a toddler, I wore out the satin edging on my blanket.

I first tried Mom’s panties when I was 12 or so. I didn’t stop there. I also tried her bras, girdles and corsets (both with garters) and stockings (women were still wearing them in the early to mid 60s), and her slips, shoes and dresses. I am an only kid and both Mom and Dad worked, so I had plenty of free time at home to experiment undisturbed. I liked how everything felt, but I dressing in her stuff was a passing thing.

After I married at age 27, I bought my wife some “nice stuff,” a garter belt and stckings and some slinky dresses, but she refused to wear it. So, I decided, “Dammit! If she won’t wear this stuff, then I WILL! So, I went out and bought a pair of high heeled slides and then a pair of strappy, high heeled sandals (both pairs had the wooden platforms that were popular in the disco era, and I loved those shoes!). Then I began buying clothing, skirts, tops, slips, half slips and dresses. At that point her bras and panties fit me, but I soon bought my own. I was 28 or 29 at the time. I’ve CDed ever since, so, we’re looking at 30 years of it, though there were gaps that lasted anywhere from a few months to a few years. But it all started as a kid.

So, were my experiments in my early teen years just that? Experiements? Did I really become a crossdresser in my late 20s? I don’t know. (See Satrana’s post, #37)

I do recall being fascinated, even as early as kindergarten, with the “girl clothes” worn by my classmates and my older (teenaged) cousins. Even then I noted how soft and frilly their clothes were, and the “special” things they wore, such as slips, leggings in the winter, muffs to keep their hands warm (those would have been handy to hide a snowball inside of for a sneak attack), hair bands, ribbons and barettes. Sure they wore socks like boys did, but their socks and t-shirts often had lace. Their sneakers were different than our sneakers. They had pretty MaryJanes (especially the patent leather ones with the slippery soles!). So, I definitely had an attraction to their clothes at an early age, even though I knew that wearing girly stuff was taboo for me.

I also think you’re right – this isn’t the place to expect a statistically valid sampling.

Yeah, the Sears Roebuck and the Penney’s catalogs..... (sigh) Even better than the Sears toy catalog supplement at Christmas.

Jenny

Felicity O
05-21-2010, 12:33 AM
I never put on my mom's or sister's panties as a kid, though I put on pretty much everything else. I always thought the idea of putting my dirty private parts in their underwear was messy and gross. Plus as a pubescent boy it's hard to say how my, ahem, body would react. Basically I didn't want to get them dirty, and it felt like a violation to go that far. I waited pretty much until I had my own panties :daydreaming:

docrobbysherry
05-21-2010, 12:57 AM
Like ALL boys I knew, I was fascinated with womens things! As long as there was a woman IN THEM!:D

Why would I want to try on womens undies, bras, or anything else? It would still be My equipment in her clothes, and I was QUITE familiar with My equipment!
But, I WASN'T with womens!:o

It NEVER occurred to me to try on ANY female clothing until I was over 50!:brolleyes:
My guess is, it DOESN'T to MOST other boys either:straightface:!

Heck! Even now, I don't get excited about wearing ladies panties!

Samantha_Smile
05-21-2010, 04:01 AM
Well, I can only speak for myself.
Age 13, no parents, mum's knicker drawer.
You do the maths.

However, I know that my brother has recently gone out in full drag... Wig, make-up, short tarty skirt... the lot!
It was however for a stag, and all 10 guys were doin it.
Best bit came the day after.
I dont live at my parents house now, but my bro does.
He went down to the living room, hungover at about 1pm wearing the skirt and low-cut top because it was to warm in the house.
He was even heard to comment
"These skirts are ace, you get loads of spare room for your junk!"

I was recipient of this info by telephone later the same day when my mum gave us the sunday "How ya doin" fone call just as I'd sat down with a cup of tea.
Lets just say a mouthful of spray-on-tea found it's way to the cat's face.

Oh to be able to go one-up with more shocking news :devil:

Jonianne
05-21-2010, 04:46 AM
I believe most males have crossdressed, for the fasination of it, at some time in their lives, but that doesn't make them crossdressers. As a child I crossdressed with a close friend and I also noticed a number of other boys that would do things that indicated to me that they at least thought about it. When I started opening up to close friends that I was a crossdresser, several of them confided in me that they crossdressed as a child too. I believe however for most, after the fasination has passed, crossdressing only resonates and continues with a small percentage.

I looked at Pennys for the girls dresses and shoes mostly, Sears and Monkey Wards was my favorite for the toys - trains, toy soldiers etc. Like some of the others, womens undies never held any intrest for me, for me it was the cute jumpers with tights and of course, mary janes!

danisin
05-23-2010, 06:18 AM
In my case it was shoes, skirts and dresses. SOmetimes tights, pantyhose and stockings. Not so much pantys and bras

Michaela42
05-23-2010, 06:34 AM
Well my first and favorite items were shoes, the higher and narrower the heels the better! I then moved on to dresses and other outer clothes. The only time I tried on any panties or pantyhose was when . . . well . . . when they were either in the trash (the pantyhose) or . . . ready for the wash. Gross, yes I know, but I was worried about soiling them so . . .

As for the study I remember my high school health teacher (also the boys track and basketball coach) asking the boys in the class if they had every tried on their mother's/sister's high heels (we were discussing the ways that women damage their bodies for beauty, specifically pointed toed shoes). A surprising number of hands went up, well over half of the boy if I remember correctly. For a moment I was elated that I was not the only boy to have ever tried on his mother's high heels; but that was quickly snuffed out when the coach continued on to say something to the effect of "now I mean only to just try them on to see what they feel like. If you are wearing them for any length of time then you are a freak."

. . . and people wondered why I hated high school so much?

jenna_woods
05-23-2010, 07:34 AM
I can only speak for my self but what I can remember is trying on skirts, and playing with my sisters panties, never got to really dressing until I turned 50, and haven't stoped since,

Anneliese
05-23-2010, 07:38 AM
Being as I had no sisters, I only had Mom's stuff to try on. I was very into her nylon stockings (when they were thrown away...this was before pantyhose) and high-heels (when she wasn't around).

The first time I ever tried on panties was when I was seventeen and in love with my first real girlfriend (to this day, the only woman I ever felt "True Love" for...my ex-wife was beautiful and ridiculously incredible and insatiable in bed, but, in hindsight, this was the only reason we were ever together).

Amy was in school (I was on vacation and staying in her house...yes...since this was a long-distance romance, her parents let me stay in their rec room) and everyone else was gone, I saw a pair of panties in her dresser, and decided I liked them...a lot. I just tried them on, felt enraptured, and quickly put them back.

I didn't wear any more until I went through my first CD "phase" around 2002.

However, my entire childhood I would play around by singing soprano and doing female impersonations, without dressing up, of course.

My youngest brother is a meat and potatoes redneck, but for several Halloweens he dressed up as half-man, half-woman...divided right down the middle, and was rather impressive. When he did that stuff, he wasn't nearly as...conservative...as he is now. I don't think he'd admit to his current group of friends he ever dressed up.

sissystephanie
05-23-2010, 09:14 AM
I first tried on a pair of panties at age 6 or 7! That was over 70 yearts ago, and I have been dressing (on and off) ever since then except for my 4 years in the military. I dress only for the pleasure of wearing feminine clothing. I have never done it solely for sex, although my late wife used to like me to dress on occasion for that particular reason!! I did stop completely some years ago, and only started again because me late wife wanted me to. I do know one can actually stop, if the real desire is there!! I did it!!

I am not sure that I agree that every boy does try it at some time, but then I am not a professional therapist! I have been to several over the years, but never heard that particular theme.

Barbara Dugan
05-23-2010, 09:28 AM
I never did it as a child, but I l always felt diferent than the other boys

Melinda Lou
05-24-2010, 11:00 AM
I don't know that "every boy does it", but I'm sure far more do than I ever would have thought when I was a kid. I count myself among those who were put in panties at a young age for reasons of parental necessity (wet pants, etc.--I think I was muddy from head to toe), and when puberty hit and I found myself in the basement trying on my mom's discarded things, or sneaking a pair of panties out of a cousin's or neighbor girl's top drawer, I was convinced I was the only one. I think this is why I developed a sense that this was my own private pleasure, and why I still mostly underdress and have never felt a need to go out dressed. (I really enjoy knowing I'm wearing panties, but no one else needs to know.) Only much later did I realize that I was far from alone in my CDing, and that my initial experience wasn't even unique. And that's just from what I've read on this board--for each of us who post, there must be many (Hundreds? Thousands?) who can't or won't. So "every" boy? Probably not, but a sizeable proportion? Absolutely.

freeindress
05-25-2010, 10:29 AM
I wore girly panties once as a single child in preschool, just because mom had been keeping a friend's daughter for some time and had some of her spare panties. Unfortunately I was not old enough to understand this privilege and enjoy it, but I was caught by the teacher then I boldly replied it does not matter. Much later in college, I allowed myself to listen to my lust after seeing a male classmate browsing the womens underwear pages of a clothing catalog, then ordered my first womens sexy sportwear two years later, it was a matching set of hot pants and sports bra that I eventually dared to wear when rollerskating in Paris.
I also watched two kids playing around some bags of recycled clothes in a small alternative gathering like rainbow family. The girl rejected a bra, saying she did not have breasts yet, and wore an oversized male suit, but the boy put the bra over his t-shirt, stuffed it up to C cup size and proudly walked around the group.

charlie
05-25-2010, 02:06 PM
Hello Elizabeth!
I don't know whether my other friends all did, but I loved wearing my mother's and sister's panties and nightgowns. In later discussions with friends (who do not crossdress now), some said that they did wear their female relatives garments and others said never. My fascination with wearing girls things waned when I was 15. I did not dress until I was 35. Then 3 three years later I did not dress until I was 55. CD is not a continuum for me, but a very strong urge when it is present.

Air-ka
05-25-2010, 03:04 PM
if it's any consolation, I started out wanting to wear girls clothes but wound up in the adult/baby scene and wearing diapers and frilly diaper covers prior to ever putting on panties and a dress. But that's way behind me and I'm totally TG now. I really think that period in my life was about experimentation.. and had there been womens clothes that I could have gotten into sooner... maybe the road would have been much different. I don't regret it and my wife shared that with me too.. so it's just a point of reference that I FOUND my female self later in life.

Ok I've reread this twice prior to posting.. it's probably utterly useless and makes no point either way.. :drink:

AKAMichelle
05-25-2010, 04:57 PM
My guess would be that the therapist is right. Most boys don't. they are more interested in getting the panties off the girl than wearing them.

MrKunk
05-25-2010, 07:22 PM
I have always thought of myself as a "late onset crossdresser."
I was surprised when she disagreed with me. Sure, all boys have a fascination with lingerie, she said, but not many put them on.



I will take this one step further, most of us had female family members that we got into their clothing, whither it was sisters or other girls in the family.

Anneliese
05-25-2010, 07:23 PM
Maybe it's a sign when every woman has been more interested in getting my pants off than I have in getting theirs off. Literally EVERY woman I've ever been with has been hornier than I am.

Miley
05-25-2010, 07:52 PM
I have studied psychology and while there are many things that are 'scientifically understood' and helpful, there is also huge dissention and disagreement in this field. I personally would not take what was said as absolute and true, especially in regards to this subject.

tammygirl79
06-14-2010, 10:12 AM
Your therapist's answer surprises me!!! Of course I was trying on my moms panties when I was a teenager....I'm sure that comes as no surprise. But I have always heard from various documenteries on sexuall behavior that it was common for boys to do this at one point in time in their childhood. So your therapist's answer counterdicts all the other theories I have heard and read on this issue.

Katie Ellen
06-14-2010, 06:14 PM
Sears catalog. That brings back memories.

Actually, panties ended up being one of the last things I wore.

At about age ten, I was fascinated by lipstick. I had a younger female teacher and couldn't take my eyes off her lips. That year in the Christmas play, they wanted all the kids in the choir to have lipstick put on. I didn't fight a bit and really loved it. My dad was shocked that I let them do it. I remember him saying beforehand that there was no way I'd let them put it on me!.

Soon after, I tried on my moms strapless bra and a halter top. It felt so satisfying and right. For me, I liked projecting a female image in the mirror. How I looked made me feel good.

Later I tried pantyhose, but actual panties didn't come until much later.

Vicki-Z
06-14-2010, 06:43 PM
I can't really talk about what is normal for a boy growing up. As far back as I can remember I wanted to be a girl and would play with my mom's lingerie. From about 12 onwards I would sneak a couple pairs of my mom's panties to wear to school and at home many days. From 14 onwards I was buying my own lingerie. I had three pairs of panties, two bras, two pairs of pantyhose, two pairs of tights, one leotard and one baby dolls set to wear. Yes I bought them myself. It was very embarressing the first couple times but seem very natural to me since I really wanted to be a girl. I keep my stuff hidden away. It was never a sexual thing for me it just felt normal.

Vicki :hugs:

CharlotteW
06-14-2010, 07:04 PM
Without going into too much detail, I'm tempted to agree that many boys have either tried feminine underwear or at least thought about it.

charlie
06-14-2010, 07:20 PM
Hello Liz!
A few of my friends know that I dress. So when talking about it I asked these men (people who say they are not CD) if they ever experimented with wearing woman's clothes. Their answer was that most had. Most as young boys used to wear their cousins, sisters or Moms clothes. One guy said he wore his girlfriends clothes when he was in college. Five people is a small sample to be sure, but it points to a conclusion.

Lacyfem
06-14-2010, 07:31 PM
I loved wearing panties starting at nine with Mom's and throughout my teenage years I wore most of my friends mom's panties and sisters panties too.....

cindycd
06-14-2010, 10:29 PM
I have always thought of myself as a "late onset crossdresser." I never seriously dressed as a woman until my 50's. Moreover, I never had any desire to do so until then.

Recently, however, I told my therapist (who is not a CD specialist. I went for depression) that I had the "usual boyhood fascination with women's underwear." I jokingly said that it was a sexual fetish brought on by my only source of pornography: the Sears and Roebuck catalog. I would occasionally put on panties, but that was it. Bras were Terra Incognita.

I was surprised when she disagreed with me. Sure, all boys have a fascination with lingerie, she said, but not many put them on.

Now I know this is exactly the opposite group to poll on this, but I don't really want to go around to all my male buddies asking if they ever wore panties as a boy. So I am asking you all if my therapist is correct. I really, honestly thought that this was a typical thing for boys to do with the bathroom door locked. It felt like it had nothing to do with me and everything to do with females.

I have a bad premonition about the answers I am going to get, but please remember that I am not asking about you or your motivation, but whether you thought, or had any evidence that most boys played with panties from time to time.

Thanks,
Liz
I know I started at around six. Loved panties, nighties, and anything else my friend's sister would let me try on. She let me try on pretty much every piece of clothing she owned and to this day I love her for it. She is no longer walking around but I wouldn't have missed that experiance for anything in the world. I know this sound's crazy because alot of people sit around and say how much dressing like a girl has ruined there life, but I think it has given me an insite into the women I have known and loved over my life.

anonymousinmaryland
06-15-2010, 08:42 AM
I started borrowing girdles and lingerie around age 12. I started wearing bras around age 30. Only I didn't have to borrow my bras; my wife started buying them for me. My wife buys my lingerie and is very good about it. I'm lucky to have her. :)

latitude45
06-15-2010, 05:18 PM
I was 12 when I first found a pair of my mother's panties in the bathroom and realized I like the feel of the material! It didn't take long before I had them on. Of course they didn't fit very well, but at the time it didn't matter. For the first time I felt I was actually wearing something I liked!

I have no sisters so I had to survive on my mother panties until I learned how to order from the sears catalog! I'm sure the lady in the store wondered why this sixteen year old boy was picking up a package of panties at the catalog desk, but back then it was easy to say "my mother sent me!"!

I've had my own ever since.

I haven't talked to many "manly men" about this but I'm sure they will deny it - but sometimes "I doth think he protests too much!" if you know what I mean!!!

Loni
06-15-2010, 05:43 PM
i would put my money on the fact that most boys tried on something between 10 and 15 years of age. :eek:

some never again,

some for a sex thing with a girl,

some will again for the love of the clothing,

others just cause it feels right.

others make it right.

and there are sure to be in betweens.


me cause it has always felt right.

at a young age i could fit into my sisters clothing with no problem.
now i have my own, and in some cases better than what she has.:heehee:

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