Superglue

[MissKara]

Hey people,

Ok, this is going to be one of the most stupidest (My god... I dont know why I am asking) questions I have ever asked.

I am making a pear of breasts from scratch (My own design too, from external look to internal structure.... And should be less than forms) and I am figuring out what I could use to adhere them to my chest...

What is the dangers of just using superglue and using a solvent to remove them when done?

I know, I know. Stupid question but I am cheap :P

Lots of Love,
Miss Kara

[Sheila]

Kara, seriously not a good idea, please don't

[KayleeDahl]

Definitely don't!

They sell appropriate glue for this, and its really not very expensive... certainly less expensive than a trip to the emergency room!

Hugs
Kaylee

[Katesback]

Dont stop with the boobs. If you could make a vagina in your garage you would be VERY rich!

[kimdl93]

don't mess with super glue - there are lots of temporary adhesives made for application to skin - such as some I got from Lucy's International. Other options include more potent surgical adhesives - but I haven't any experience with them.

Personally, I would spring for a nice pair of forms. but who knows, maybe you'll invent the ultimate breast form!

[MissKara]

I'm a hand's on kinda person, plus I dont mind experimenting with my own contraptions before I buy a premade pair :P

One of my friends mentioned of a thetarical adheasive they use in plays called Spirit Gum, I'll see if I can track some down.

Thanks ya'll.

Lots of Love,
Miss Kara

[Chloe Renee]

Aside from the short" don't do it", super glue tends to be a brittle bond. I am assuming you are going to want a flexible bond so you and the forms can move naturally. I would look at medical adhesives. Nuhope for example is similar to rubber cement that is applies with a brush.
I hope your home designed forms come out well, Ive been trying to find supplies to make film quality prostetics for a while. Time and money have been my enemy, it would be almost cheaper to grow my own.

[Elle1946]

Medical expenses can cost a lot more than breast forms. Not mention loss of work if off. Play it safe!!!!

[tamarav]

Over the past 40 years I have experimented with every know glue/adhesive for all sorts of body attachments. Super glue or cynoacrylic glues are not desinged for bare human skin. The actually have such a small molecular size that they penetrate the skin and form a bond that takes a lot of acetone to make pliable again. There are lots of adhesives that wil;l hold breast forms on, whether they are store-bouight or home made.

Read the articles on breast form adhesives that have been posted here for over 3 years. Lots of information on how to use them and how to get it off the skin.

Spirit gum has been around since the time of the Egyptians, it is a common plant produced sticky stuff. Many theatrical adhesives are based on it.

[docrobbysherry]

There r MANY bad glues u mite try. Superglue must be the worst!:doh:

They make medical adhesive for just this purpose. I've used it with success. About $30 for a small can!:eek:

However, try 3M spray on contact cement. MANY girls recommend it for forms! About $7 for a LARGE can at Home Depot!:D

I bought some, but haven't needed to glue on forms since buying my female suit!:heehee:

[Vieja]

If you want to see what super glue does just put a dab between two fingers and I don't think you will ever consider using to glue on your breasts. Every time I use super glue I manage to get some on my fingers. Blah!


Vieja

[Sarah Doepner]

Super glue - Bad idea for skin.
There are double stick tapes that work pretty well that I got through the store where I purchased my forms.

[Deborah Jane]

Superglue....
Great for accidently sticking your fingers together :facepalm:
Bad for intentionally sticking things to your body :doh:

[mklinden2010]

If you can make a PEAR of breasts, why not skip the small stuff and turn sand into gold?

But, seriously, why would you want to make some when you can buy 'em, use bird seed bags or water balloons in a bra, or, have a bit of (reverse-able) surgery?

Superglue and the stuff to get it off with will leave bad scars on that big of an area. Not to mention the feel of something glue-frozen to your chest will not be a good feeling at all. You might, in fact, "crack" the skin off when you move and the glued on stuff doesn't.

Nah. Not a good method.

The idea is fine, if that sort of thing is what you aspire too.

But, there are many better ways to get what you want than that.

Thanks for asking in advance.

Good luck and good living.

[mapletree]

your skin will not forgive you so easily
super glue is not always supper

i enjoy figuring out stuff too ...so maybe ask why to they have to adhere?

[Ashley S]

It's not necessarily BAD for your skin, but trying to remove it certainly can be.

Super-glue gel is non-toxic, and I quite like it for sealing cracks in my hands and as liquid-stitches. It's stronger than traditional stitches, since it penetrates and bonds for a long period, unlike new-skin or other wound-sealants.

But I still wouldn't try to use it on forms, or anything that requires remover. When using it to close wounds, it just stays on there until your shed enough skin that it comes off.

It's not bad for your skin, it just has it's applications, and sticking forms to your chest is NOT one of them.

[Karen564]

:facepalm:

[missdanie]

Listen to Tamara! Read her message four or five times, especially the part about molecular size. Your dermis is not something you want to compromise or play with. It's what protects the inside of you from the world at large. This isn't a cosmetic issue.

Spirit gum is an acceptable choice, but pay close attention to how you remove it. I have worked with many an actor who has developed dermatitis from solvents.

-D

[DonniDarkness]

Kara,

i do not use breast forms but i use chemicals in my business for many many things on a day to day basis.

Super Glue is primarily based on Cyanoacrylate, this chemical is finer than the pores on your skin, when it makes contact it instantly soaks thru multiple layers of your skin (or other materials) and even upon removal there will still be a significant amount of chemical under your skin that WILL cause inflamation, redness and in the event that it removes skin as well (drawing blood) you now have the risk of infection, which can cause scarring.

Chemicals that remove super glues: Acetone, Laquer Thinner, Mineral Spirits(turpentine), De-natured alchohol, and a few others.

All of these chemicals that remove superglue are actually WORSE for you than the actual superglue. These chemicals are very thin on the elemental chart in fact thinner than water as in they have a very small chemical makeup. They will absorb into your skin 10x faster than the fine Cyanoacrylate in the super glue.

All of these chemicals have been up for review by the MSDS and well known for the possible effects of causing CANCER and other developed diseases.

Please im begging you spend 20 bucks get some medical glue.

And dont use the 3m glue that Doc suggested (sry doc), i use this chemical out of the can very often in laminating and creating furniture finishes. This chemical is harsh and i have had had severe chemical burns on my hands from it, and the Denatatured alchohol i use to remove it and clean my tools with. This chemical is the same base as Contact Cement and is thinned down with Acetone to make it spray from a can.

Sry about the long post but i wanted to fully warn you of the dangers of this before you possibly give yourself breast cancer.
And that would definitely put a cramp on future plans for breast implants/augmentation, as well as the longevity of your life

Hugs and a smack to the head!
-Donni-

[jenniferj]

Hi Kara,

I use the 3M 77 for this purpose on an almost daily basis and have had few problems. Generally I glue the girls in place before bed so that I can wear nighties without a bra or other support.

It does leave a sticky mess when I (carefully) peel the girls off, but I have found that massaging a dollop (a very precise term) of cold cream over my chest pretty much softens the mess and leaves it easy to wash off.

The forms stay a little sticky after I remove them, which means that they stay in place under even a light bra without any additional glue.

I use goo-gone after every couple of applications to clean the forms. This is not particularly satisfying and takes several sprays and soaks and wiping off with paper towels. When I've got them as clean as I can, I lather them up with shampoo a couple of time to get the goo-gone off, I neglected to do this step once and had the only really bad problem - two breastform-shaped chemical burns where I re-installed them. The top layer of skin peeled of and it stung like the dickens too.

The only other problems I've had resulted from my not be careful enough removing them - I've had a couple of small abrasions where some of my skin came off with the form. I expect that removing them in a hot shower might prevent this altogether.

BTW, this all supposes that your forms are strong enough to handle the glue. Most commercial forms are encased in a strong polyurethane skin that is practically impervious chemically and otherwise pretty tough physically. On occasion I will put a spritz of the glue under my home-made hip/tush pads to keep them in the right place and they always leave bits of themselves attached to me. I scrubs off easily, but the pads are looking a little sad as a result.

One final warning; everybody has different sensitivities to different things. I grew up washing car parts in a bucket of leaded gasoline (not the smartest thing to do but we really didn't know better) and had no reaction other than a little dry skin. The fact that the gasoline didn't irritate my skin may be related to the 3M 77 not bothering me. I don't think there is anything in the glue that is inherently harmful, but it may irritate you. Try a little patch for a short time as a test.

Good luck!

-jj

[donnatracey]

If you want to see what super glue does just put a dab between two fingers and I don't think you will ever consider using to glue on your breasts. Every time I use super glue I manage to get some on my fingers. Blah!


Vieja

Couldn't agree more! I get nervous every time I use a dab of super glue around the house....:doh:

[t-girlxsophie]

One of my friends mentioned of a thetarical adheasive they use in plays called Spirit Gum, I'll see if I can track some down
Miss Kara

My Friend uses Spirit Gum to keep her Wig in place,she swears by it,not sure how strong it is though,but worth a shout.She actually bought her's from Local novelty shop

Good Luck with your Experimenting

[Nicole Erin]

If you do end up trying super glue, acetone can remove it, depending on the type of super glue.
Still though it is a horrid idea unless you plan on having them on for several days.

[crystalann]

This is why I like you!:^5:
Dont stop with the boobs. If you could make a vagina in your garage you would be VERY rich!

[Stitch]

Don't use superglue. When you get your fingers stuck together that's bad enough. Consider that finger skin is quite tough in comparison to the rest of your body. It's going to destroy your chest skin if you do that. I can't imagine the removal process is going to be kind either.

I once managed to get my tongue stuck to my teeth with superglue. (I'm a crafter so I was holding the lid in my mouth. :doh: I learn't from that mistake very quickly) I finally managed to pry it away from them but it took weeks before the residue disappeared.

[KarenCDFL]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! PLEASE NOOOOO!

Super glue or Cyanoacrylate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate) is a TOXIC Substance.

I use it quite a bit in my hobby work and usually wear disposable gloves and sometimes a mask.

Breathing it or letting it get absorbed into your skin can cause a bad reaction and over time possibly kill you if using in large quantities.

As others have said, there are adhesives that can be used safely.

[Kerrylee61]

Dont stop with the boobs. If you could make a vagina in your garage you would be VERY rich!

Hey girl, somebody already did that. Google Castle supply...

Kerry

[Jilmac]

Kara, I can tell you from experience that superglue will not only stick your homemade boobs to your skin, they'll more than likely have to be surgically removed. I have used superglue in various applications while working at my trade and had my fingers stuck together twice. I tried using solvent but it didn't work and was very harsh to the skin. My doctor had to use an exacto knife to slice my fingers apart. :thumbsdn:

If you want to glue your boobage to your skin, please use a surgical adhesive. Most of them can be removed with rubbing alcohol.:thumbsup:

[Chickhe]

Consider that the skin on you chest is very thin and scars easily. Can you imagine damaging the skin around your chest in two odd looking circular patterns and then it is there for several years or even a lifetime? Really hard to explain when at the beach with friends. After a lot of experiementing to save a buck, I finally bought some forms and I've got to say, they have lasted so long and work so well, I have to guess I have saved money by buying them. There are too many other areas to spend energy, like figuring out proper foundation and shapewear to spend it on forms imho.

[Tranny Tee]

I admire peope who do things I would never consider doing. While others may call you a fool for risking potential injury by gluing fake boobs to your chest I admire your pioneering spirit. Before you do it arrange enoough time off work so you will be somewhat healed after the physician peels them off your chest. Take lots of photos, let us know how it goes.

[Loni]

before gluing your forms to you try this...glue all of your fingers together (just one hand), and see how long till it all grows out.:eek::eek::eek::doh:


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[eluuzion]

Hey people,

Ok, this is going to be one of the most stupidest (My god... I dont know why I am asking) questions I have ever asked.

What is the dangers of just using superglue and using a solvent to remove them when done?

I know, I know. Stupid question but I am cheap :P

Lots of Love,
Miss Kara



hiya MissKara,

There is no such thing as a "stupid question" in an art studio, :battingeyelashes: they are called "curious inquiries" when you are doing "experimental" art projects...:D
When I closed my retail/commercial art-glass studio down and moved everything into a home studio, I made a couple rules up that I promised myself I would follow, (mainly to avoid killing myself or blowing up my house)...hehehe.

1) The more I start describing my studio in terms of a "laboratory" instead of an "art studio", the more research I will do prior to experimenting with unknown materials. Particularly with regards to "mixing and combining" chemicals and anything in liquid form. The standard rule of the drug world..."potentiation" (A=good B=good A+B=expoential unpredictable results) applies to art media too (mixing chemicals and liquid plastics/rubber products.)lol

As for "super glue"...It is a great tool to close knife and bullet wounds on the battlefield and for lifting fingerprints if you burn it to vaporizing in forensic applications. But unless you are opening an ER at home, lol...stick to repairing teacup handles with it, not attaching breast forms. You will damage the forms or your skin...or both.

I have re-posted bits of info on CD…DIY prosthetics and such, which I have learned while making various (work related) "disguises". Since it seems to be a repetitive process on forums, I am going to just take this opportunity to post a bunch of stuff from my resource list all in one place…here, for anyone interested in copying it, now or later.

I hope you find it helpful, instead of a “novel sized thread hijack”…lol. I’ve made my own silicone breast forms for under $30, as well as other related “projects”…

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Tutorial on constructing breast forms from fishing worms and balloons
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Explanation of materials/chemicals used to make sex toys. (also specs for making vagina and dildos)
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DIY sex toy projects site. Step by Step instructions on various toy projects and materials
http://www.homemade-sex-toys.com/

Basic tutorial site on sex toys and making your own silicon love doll and toys. Basic construction techniques and working with materials (silicone).
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In depth subject index on anything and everything having to do with breast forms. Good resource.
http://www.eskimo.com/~bloo/bformfaq/

Index of Manufacturers’ of commercial breast forms
http://www.eskimo.com/~bloo/bformfaq/manufact.html

A-Z Index of Retailers/Suppliers of breast forms, including links to online sites
http://www.eskimo.com/~bloo/bformfaq/retailer.html

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HaveFun...

[Tomara]

All I can say to this one is :OMG: !!!!!!!!!

Please use some common sense !!!!!!!!!

[JustAlex]

Superglue (if it's what I'm thinking (Cyanoacrylate) because there's no Superglue around here) is the last thing you'd want to use for that.

Cyanoacrylate is used to seal wounds because it sticks and stays like that forever. Eventually, it's absorbed. It's great if you have a nasty cut that requires immediate attention (I had two that I sealed myself) but any other use over your skin is a bad idea. You won't be able to remove the forms unless you rip your skin off or wait until the Cyanoacrylate degrades. It also irritates the skin, it's almost unnoticeable for most people but one in a million may be specially sensitive to it. Of course, it's not a real concern if you're bleeding.
The vapors are toxic but you need a LOT of Cyanoacrylate to get intoxicated.

Another important factor is that it reacts with cotton and wool in a very powerful and fast exothermic reaction. You'd have to use a lot of it to glue a form and, if some of it stays liquid over your skin, you can get burned where it gets in contact with your cotton clothes. Worse than that, your cotton lingerie could get ruined. :eek:

I haven't heard of a solvent for Cyanoacrylate. Maybe there's one. In that case, I wouldn't want to have that over my skin.

Why don't you try some double sided hypoallergenic tape?
You can get that from medical supplies stores.

[JustAlex]

Please use some common sense !!!!!!!!!

Common sense does not stick. :lol2:

(Sorry... the joke was there and it would have haunted me forever...)

[Fab Karen]

Read what it says on the superglue package about not getting it in contact with your skin.
Plenty of us don't even use adhesive, just a secure bra.

[Deborah Jane]

Plenty of us don't even use adhesive, just a secure bra.

I once repaired a bra with superglue, I wish I'd taken it off first though :doh:

[Andromeda]

Superglue seems to me to be a very bad idea. Personally I have used 3M super 77 with good results. I have also used Goo Gone as my adhesive removes also with good results.

[jenna_woods]

I agree please don't do that.

[DeeArel]

Not a good idea to use super glue on the skin.

While acetone works for removing this glue, the best remover I have found is petroleum jelly.:2c:

[Marcie4you]

Ever here of the guy in the ER with a toilet seat stuch to his butt? DON'T!!!!

[orangebat]

You definitely don't want to superglue anything to your skin, trust me.

[Ashley S]

There are several higher end types of the gel that do not contain methyl alcohol, and are safe for medical/veterinary use, one is even called derma-bond, and it's sold as a medical product. The cheaper ones contain methyl alcohol and it reacts poorly with skin, and can cause chemical burns.

Either way, not for use on things like forms. Besides, it dries hard, not flexible.

[Annie D]

I stopped reading when I got to your reply about being a "hands on kinda person"; aren't we all? Budda Boom! That's why we want ours to be perfect.

I can see the headlines now, "Man invents the perfect breast". Most of us have looked for it most of our lives with every woman we have met and now we are looking closer to home.

Sorry, I had to get those remarks off my chest.

[diannecourtney]

I have used 3M 77 spray adhesive for a year or 2.Usually with a bra,today I am experimenting w/o the bro,so far so good, Oh its 10 bucks per can at all stores. Doi a good shave it pulls hair Like yuou can't believe.:):):)

[Jessica Britton]

There are several adhesives that makeup artists use for prosthetics that might work. Most of them also require a specific remover, so don't buy one without the other! Some of the adhesives are water based, but the removers usually aren't, so be careful of the fumes. No matter what adhesive you use, even if it says it's "safe", be careful. Do a patch test first and leave it on for 24 hours. Even supposedly "skin safe" adhesives can cause allergic reactions. (I remember a girl who used a fairly common water based cosmetic adhesive and ended up with a trip to the ER from the reaction!)

Also, when it comes to cyanoacrylates, remember that they set by exothermic reaction. In other words, they generate heat, and when applied to certain materials, can get hot enough to cause some nasty burns. (Superglue and Cotton do NOT play well together and can actually burst into flame if the concentration is high enough.)

[skylance]

one word: OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


superglue, i could only imagine being excrutiating for something like this....ouch!

[Chloets]

I would stay away from that too. How about "It Stays"? Has anyone tried that for Breast forms? I am about to order a bottle (2oz for about $9) so I would be glad for any advice. But no super glue for me..hehehe