Caught underdressed in changing room

[Barbara Baman]

About 20 years ago i was trying on a pair of mens jeans in a large department store. My toe nails were polished a nice pink color and i was wearing panties and pantyhose. I heard a noise from above and looked up a saw someone looking through about a 4"hole then heard some girls giggling.I don't know if they were security or not. I do remember something on the news about women watching the mens changing room and men watching the womens at some large stores. I wonder what the large stores use for security now.

[eluuzion]

I wonder what the large stores use for security now.

Well, to give you a feeling for the "big picture", Wal-Mart is so big and powerful now that the folks who run the "security machine" are ex-CIA personnel.

The technology is pretty incredible these days. Particularly when it comes to surveillance. It is too complex and diversified to cover it all in a post. But a few weapons in their security toolbox often include...

Sophisticated surveillance cameras (in those bubbles on the ceiling). They have options like pan, tilt, zoom, record, "flag" programmed cues with alerts, detect hostile behavior, audio, etc. The ones mounted on building fronts can read a business card on the dashboard of a car in the parking lot. Some have manniquins with cams in the eye holes. RFID tags are everywhere (tiny transmitting antennae that "track" the object they are embedded in). These are in many of the products you buy and take home.

Different types of sensors are mounted in shelving, etc that also provide surveillance security data. Sensors are in some floors/walls which alert security when someone "drifts" into a secured area. Metallic sensors set off alarms at the door if not demagnetized at the register. Items hanging on racks are often alternated front/back when hung such that it is difficult to "grab" an entire armful of coats and run out the door. Plain clothed security personnel are everywhere watching shoppers.

The list goes on and on. Are cameras "good"? Why not, since you are not doing anything wrong??? Well, here is one reason to consider when people tell ya that "logic"...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97MF9I00


There are ways to be "invisible" by the way...another story for another time...lol and of course everything I post is either "hypothetical", something I am asking for a "friend", for a "research" project, something I just heard from "Them", or a similar source. Anything that may suggest or appear to be questionable from a legal perspective, is purely coincidental or unintentionally posted as a result of naitivity or ignorance. I would never consider or suggest doing anything illegal. I also like little puppies and sing in the church choir...or uh, might consider singing in it someday...lol There, all better...lol
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[aggi123]

I do undercover security for walmart and can tell you that it is against company policy to hook up any type of surveilance (sp?) equipment capable of monitoring the inside of the dressing rooms or bathrooms. That's two company's I've worked security for that do not do it. If I had to guess, most don't.

[StarrOfDelite]

About 20 years ago i was trying on a pair of mens jeans in a large department store. My toe nails were polished a nice pink color and i was wearing panties and pantyhose. I heard a noise from above and looked up a saw someone looking through about a 4"hole then heard some girls giggling.I don't know if they were security or not. I do remember something on the news about women watching the mens changing room and men watching the womens at some large stores. I wonder what the large stores use for security now.
Assuming you could prove either a surveillance camera or a peep-hole in a changing booth, a big "if" by the way, you'd have an extremely good invasion of privacy lawsuit. And, most lawyers would be anxious to represent since there would be literally hundreds or thousands of potential plaintiffs which would mean a possible class action lawsuit. I suspect that if you were warned there was surveillance the case wouldn't be very strong, but there is an "expectation of privacy" which the average person reasonably assumes exists in this situation, and violation of that reasonable expectation is a tort. If there was a peep-hole which was created by a third party and the store knew about, and the store didn't take reasonable steps to correct the situation, it's about the same liability as if it did create the peep-hole, speaking legally. The possibility of punitive damages would be much less if it was merely a failure to correct situation, however.

[Nicole Erin]

Like eluzion said - They have highly trained soldiers of the Walmart SWAT squadron who will rush in with chemical weapons and ambush you if you are caught stealing.

And don't use the Walmart toilets! there is a secret tracking probe that is implanted up your backside so they can track you. If you steal, the SWAT squadron will come and break down your door with a battering ram, hold you at gun point while your house is ramsacked and Chris Hansen off Dateline will look thru your pr0n collection to make sure everything is legal.

If you have ever broke a tooth while eating anything, it is cause that tooth hit the tiny chip that is implanted for security.

Walmart, as we speak, has a highly-trained team of the elite MP3 anti-pirate SWAT squadron psychic special forces that will use telepathy to read your HDD to make sure that all your songs and pr0n videos were not DL'ed illegally.

Now let us all go run around naked downtown and sing "Let it be" by The Beat-alls.

[kymmieLorain]

Well, to give you a feeling for the "big picture", Wal-Mart is so big and powerful now that the folks who run the "security machine" are ex-CIA personnel.

Never heard that and I work at wally world. They are just trained associates. Walmart or any other store are not permitted to have any cameras around the fitting rooms as it is a legal thing. The cameras do not cover all the store. they can be moved and zoomed Etc. The security tags are do not allow tracking of the merchandise. Just emit a magnetic signal to set off the door security thingys ( don't know what they are called)

Kymmie

[christina marie]

we all work for Wal-Marx in one way or another. . .

[eluuzion]

talk about painting myself in a corner...hehehe...

Ok, let me clarify a bit...(pulling out a roll of duct-tape from underneath dress...)

I just used Wal-Mart as simply a generic reference "example company" since it was a household name. They may or may not use any of the tactics and items I mentioned. I did not intend to suggest any specific company uses specific strategies and equipment. My intention was not to single out Wal-Mart, or to imply that anything I mentioned could be supported by any concrete evidence of fact that could be assertained or extracted from any data or access to data I may have been authorized to view as a course of normal business activities (conducted during my tenure as a corporate executive for any company that has employed me in any location, at any time). I have no personal knowledge any such information existed in the past, currently exists, or may exist at a future date. I apologize for any confusion I may have created. All specific references should always be interpreted as "heresay".

I knew I should have specifically mentioned the dressing room/restroom issue. Yes, surveillance in those two areas can leave a company open to legal actions with potentially devastating damage awards and other publicity nightmares. Most are very well versed in the laws prohibiting such surveillance and avoid anything that would even suggest they participate in such tactics.

Sorry if I confused anybody. I have logged considerable time in the "outer limits" arena they call the "blue-room" in Bentonville, Arkansas.

all I can say about that is...

"America, what a concept"

as I implied previously...regarding Wal-Mart or anybody else in this world, I respectfully...

"Confirm nothing, Deny everything". :heehee::D:heehee:



there, all better...

[Barbara Baman]

This store was two levels tall. I suspect their must have been a
storage area above and it's real easy to break a piece off
suspended ceiling tiles. I kind of liked the fact they saw me.

[MaryKatherine]

About 20 years ago i was trying on a pair of mens jeans in a large department store. My toe nails were polished a nice pink color and i was wearing panties and pantyhose. I heard a noise from above and looked up a saw someone looking through about a 4"hole then heard some girls giggling.

This is what im afraid of when i want to go to the store and try on some clothes when im in drab.

Not really people peeking but me walking out with a handful of womens clothes and a friend of mine just happens to walking.:doh:

[kymberlyjean]

That wasn't part of anything official. If you pay attention at most large companies like that, the vast majority of the cameras are watching the employees. And even at that it's not the high end top notch super "eye in the sky" stuff that television shows would have you believe. Just watch CSI tonight and compare the footage they see in the show and then watch the 10 o'clock news and see the footage they show of the purse snatching ring that just hit Neiman Marcus or whatever.

Kim

[Amber Chen]

Well, I was out shopping with my former boyfriend at a department store's basement level, found a pair of pants and wanted to try it on until I went into the (men's) fitting room...it was a wide open space with no screens or doors. I was wearing a pink teddy under my boy clothing and didn't want to have anybody see it, so I left without trying on anything!

[Tranny Tee]

Peepholes and hidden cameras are not unusual in places where people are unclothed. They are almost always used by rogue employees and not authorized by the store or institution. Whenever a camera or peephole is found it is a public relations disaster.

[sterling12]

Let me "es-plain" how sophisticated Walmart is with their Security and Surveillance. I have a good friend who is a (rare) full-time employee, and she does the Store paging Announcements, and runs The Dressing Rooms.

Per My Friend, "If somebody goes in to try on clothes, and they have three garments....I am required to count The Garments and make damn sure they have three garments with tags, when they come back out!" "I also make sure The Boys change on The Boys Side and The Girl's change on The Girl's Side." "The type of garments are not my concern! All I care about is The Count!"

Now I'm sure that WallyWorld has other sophisticated security measures, but a lot of "Security" has to do with common sense! I can't imagine they, or any other store would be stupid enough to allow violations of someone's privacy. Somebody once told me that The Biggest Concern was "Leakage" (Pilfering) by The Store's Employee's. What can go out "The Back Door," can be huge compared to shoplifting. I am sure that's where a lot of Security Assets are directed.

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Kate Simmons]

Maybe they could get away with this 20 years ago. You could have a field day in court these days with something like this, RFID chips notwithstanding.:)

[Sky]

Don't worry about the Big Brother theories. Stores don't have hidden cameras inside the fitting rooms. They do have -plenty of them- outside, but they are intended to get shoplifters, not crossdressers. So as long as you pay fo rthe merchandise you take you have nothing to worry about. Incidentally, a few stores have employees checking the merchandise you take into a fitting room: in my case they are skirts, dresses, women jeans, and the like. The employees could not care less. (All they want to achieve with the checking is that you don't hide anything under your day clothes)

[MargaretJ]

I must be a great target for security. I won't go into a changing room if there is a SA checking what you have, and must look really suspicous while I hang around to check the coast is clear, before I go into achanging room with girly stuff. I certainly wouldn't dream of stealing anything, imagine if you got caught,eek.

[bianca66]

Reminds me of my teen years when I would do the occasional security shift at K-Mart...Yep, we sat around in the attic looking through some fake wall vents with binoculars and walky talkies.

[donnatracey]

Well, I was out shopping with my former boyfriend at a department store's basement level, found a pair of pants and wanted to try it on until I went into the (men's) fitting room...it was a wide open space with no screens or doors. I was wearing a pink teddy under my boy clothing and didn't want to have anybody see it, so I left without trying on anything!

And what store was this, and where???.....:eek:

[Ozark]

I may have posted this before but it fits this subject of dressing rooms.

Back in the 1980s my wife and I were working in Oklahoma City. We were in a store and I was trying on some pants.

I was wearing, with my wife's knowledge, a Vanity Fair nylon hipster. I was in the dressing room, with my pants off and the sales associate opened the door, looked at me and asked how I was fixed for underwear.

I stammered something.

We got a good laugh out of it.

another time a sales associate at a Dillard's store, when I was looking a men's bikini underwear that if I liked wearing that sort of thing, I ought to buy them from the women's department, they were cheaper.