New Symbol Question

[Briana90802]

Hiya, I'm new here and have been reading many of the posts regarding a CD symbol. And although I like the idea of having a symbol that is a butterfly, seahorse or other feminine thing I think that we as a group could do better.

Regardless if others know it's a CD symbol, or if we wear it, I think we can can come up with something better than the suggestions presented elswhere.

I propose that all of you creative people sumbit(post) some alternative to the old basic things, as well as an explanation as to what it stands for.

For example:

http://i52.tinypic.com/1053ypg.jpg

Here is my suggestion. It symbolizes a whole person having both the male and female internally. It also has a "C" and a "D" hidden within.

I'm anxious to hear and see what other have to say. :D

Thank You.

[Christy_M]

I like it. I am not creative enough to think of something on my own so I will ride the coattails of whomever has that artistic genius. Right now, it looks like you - congratulations.

[AKAMichelle]

Here is the problem with symbols as idenditifers of us as cd'ers. Once people learn what the symbol is we are then getting outed any time we wear the symbol and even in male mode. I won't use a symbol at any time.

[anonymousinmaryland]

While I like your design, isn't wearing gender bender clothing enough? I mean, either way, aren't we are just looking for acceptance in today's world?

[RachelPortugal]

A symbol is just another label. Who really needs labels?

[Gerrijerry]

if you want a symbol there is the rainbow already in use. which covers everyone.
Personally I just want to blend in.

[Amanda22]

I want to flow relatively unnoticed through public spaces. The only symbol/sign I want is my smile that results from the self-expression of the clothing I choose to wear. Hopefully, strangers notice the "sign" of a lovely person that I hope I am. All I want is to be authentic to myself by wearing the clothing of my choice, quietly and with dignity. I have no desire to be in anyone's face about it. For example, I've never pushed my ideas on anyone with a political/religious/otherwise sticker on my car, out of respect for others. Besides, it's my belief that no one cares what group(s) I belong to, and there's nothing wrong with that. This is just my opinion.

[Briana90802]

Really, I get what you are saying. After reading much of what people have already posted I think that you are correct. A symbol would instantly identify us. But still it would be nice to have something to gett behind.

People (were I live) are always proudly waving and displaying a rainbow flag. Just having that flag and knowing that you are part of a tribe gives strength to others and to yourself. Knowing that you belong is what it really is all about. :hugs:

Besides these days there are so many symbols out there flooding our eyes that I doubt, highly, that people would even care that it is. For example, that red and black star, the symbol for HIM, the alpine star logo, the underarmour logo, the equal symbol(my fav), etc..

http://www.askdreldritch.com/EvilScouts_RedStarsm.jpghttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/34s/19962059.jpghttp://rallynuts.com/media/products/AS_logo50.jpghttp://images.coolchaser.com/themes/t/97489-i187.photobucket.com-albums-x181-govols14_2007-UnderArmourlogo3.gifhttp://img.freebase.com/api/trans/image_thumb/wikipedia/images/en_id/986487?pad=1&errorid=%2Ffreebase%2Fno_image_png&maxheight=64&mode=fillcropmid&maxwidth=64

We see these symbols everyday and no one cares except for those that can relate to them. To display it means that you are proud of what it represents.

A symbol, like the peace sign, is a philosophy summed up in one icon, something people can get behind.

I'm NOT saying we should make T-shirts, I'm saying that we need something that subtly identifies us when wearing guy clothes.

[Amanda22]

Hi Briana, you have good points. I appreciate your desire for strengthening unity. This CD forum has become a tribe for me and I'm so thankful to have it. An icon/symbol would perhaps enrich this idea for those who want to participate.

[Charleen]

I have a TG Pride Flag sticker on my car and on the hat I wear.

[Briana90802]

Hi Briana, you have good points. I appreciate your desire for strengthening unity. This CD forum has become a tribe for me and I'm so thankful to have it. An icon/symbol would perhaps enrich this idea for those who want to participate.

I'm hoping this can be a tribe for me too. Other than my SO I haven't anyone else to talk to about this.

[Tracii G]

Let me blend that's all I need.

[Barbara Jo]

if you want a symbol there is the rainbow already in use. which covers everyone.
Personally I just want to blend in.

Haven't you heard? Ralphie May wants the rainbow back. :D

[Briana90802]

Haven't you heard? Ralphie May wants the rainbow back. :D

while I like the rainbow flag, where I live the flag is instantly recognized as gay pride. And as I support pride, it doesn't support my inner beliefs.

[Lorileah]

I thought there was a symbol at the top of the page that represented "us".:idontknow:. Over the years being on many boards I have seen many attempts to make a symbol that shows that "we" are TG. There are triangles with a cross on one side (female), an arrow on another (male) and a cross with an arrow blended on the last. There are many rebirths of the YinYang. There is a circle with the arrow, cross and a combination of such extending out from it. There is the "tri-ess" symbols.

The point that we need to be branded is interesting. To say that only the "club" will get it and many will be oblivious is not true at all. Branding has a purpose and you often see someone try and fudge a brand symbol to take advantage of another's hard work, and many time these are very subtle changes. And I think someone made the point it makes a great target for those who are in disagreement with us. As a point of pride at a gathering it would be good, alone in a dark alley...not so much, even if you are not dressed.

Now to put a bigger damper on this...I don't get the red circle and lines. It sort of looks like an attempt to make a new "StarFleet" icon to me. More industrial. But that is just me

[Amanda22]

After further thought, I'm totally uninterested in a symbol, new, old, or otherwise. Seems too much like being a member of a secret club or clique and that just isn't me. I mean no offense. I just think my appearance kinda speaks for itself, that's all.

[sissystephanie]

Why do we need a symbol? First and foremost we are People!! We may wear different clothing from some others, but we are all still People. We come from different countries, and may be different colors! But when it comes down to the final point, we are people. That is the only label or symbol any of us need!!

I personally don't want or need any labels or symbols!!

[Kelly Greene]

I think that if the yin yang symbol that is part of the logo for this forum were to be engraved on a signet ring or a pendent it would be really nice. The symbol speaks to the female and male sides that make up the whole person we all want to be.

[Asako]

I would personally choose the Yin-Yang sign. Why? It serves as a warning that nothing is so well defined and uses Good and Evil as an example of things that will never be so clear cut. That is the original meaning, if I recall correctly. Now, why would I choose something like that? Over time, like spoken languages, the meaning of symbols can CHANGE. To me, Yin-Yang can also be used to show that there are bits of one thing in the other in a manner that it relates to the original meaning. Why would I choose the Yin-Yang sign for myself? Well, gender obviously isn't black and white...now, is it? =)

My only problem with using this relation is that an ignorant fool may only see the "Evil" and relate us to the "Evil". Though, if someone is THAT IGNORANT...then I suppose it wouldn't matter how we try to explain it to them.

[Eve II]

I want our symbol to be soon for the real word to see all of us dressed femme and just think
" Wow, that's HOT". To come and naturally talk to us - ask us out or just - smile with
approval.

[PretzelGirl]

We can never have enough symbols!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_symbols

But I am with those that say if you want a private symbol, it just isn't going to happen. If it really caught on, it would be as well known as the rainbow.

[Frédérique]

Here is my suggestion. It symbolizes a whole person having both the male and female internally. It also has a "C" and a "D" hidden within. I'm anxious to hear and see what other have to say.

Ok, you asked. It looks a lot like the symbol on the unitards the Fantastic Four wear, plus it looks a bit…aggressive…with the arrow shape, black, red, and etc. This masculine symbol would clash with my pretty femme things...

Tell me -- what’s the point of having a symbol for something you cannot adequately explain to people? It seems counter-productive at best, in fact the absence of a symbol indicates necessary secrecy. I symbolize my crossdressing by wearing a dress – go figure…:battingeyelashes:

[April Renee]

Ehh, reminds me of the Foreigner 4 album cover....
.
April

[Bernadina]

How about the original male female symbols and their blending before organized religion took that symbol over too: 142570

[Janie]

"I would not join any club that would have someone like me for a member."
-- Groucho Marx

No symbols for me......thanks.

[Lacing Hills]

*Fighting hard to control creative mode*

I actually never thought of it but could be a nice thing. I wouldn't tattoo it on me or stick it in my car tho. I like to have my secret identity.

[7sisters]

You know we should work on ideas for this logo.

[Briana90802]

You know I find this rather suprising.
I've read other threads about symbols
and needing or wanting one,
suggestions about butterflies and seahorses,
or discussion about if the transgender triangle symbol and
the gay pride flag encompasses us.

I must say that I am rather confused.
So many of you wish to "blend in"
to become a part of the background
noise that is our society. And to them
I say, "more power to you."

I feel my intentions are misunderstood.
Never was I meaning to out us or
paint a bulls-eyes upon our busts
but to those who want a symbol to
represent our ideology, that

We are not gay,
we choose to dress according
to our own feelings
that we have significant others
who support and love us.
that we are human
and deserve respect.

Only after reading other threads
on the same subject was I inspired
to open this thread. It is to them
that I speak, to those that would
take pride in all that you are
and find a closet a dark and
lonely place.

I speak to those
who wish one day to see a symbol
and know it's for you and you alone.

[Loni]

that red star in post number 8 reeks of communism to me.
i do not post any place even on my truck any kind of association with any group.
there are those who know what it is,
and other who do not.
and there are those who do not care,
and those who will cause problems.
and this does not just go for any transgendered. but for anything one does not like. some symbols will get you harassed by a cop. and not cause they are vulgar just not pc enough.
the ying and yang here would be enough...but would the asian culture be offended if we were to use it?
me i just want to be me. not labeled or cut up to fit into a box.

.

[Elizabeth Ann]

Frankly, cross dressing is not "who I am." It is not even the most important aspect of my life. I suppose it is fun to occasionally wear a badge, but I identify more with my political beliefs, religious beliefs, professional affiliation, avocation, even the state I grew up in, than I do cross dressing. Now, if someone came up with a symbol that instantly conveyed the message of a liberal, agnostic, economist sailor from Texas who cross dresses, I guess I would think about wearing it.

But I am thinking that might be a little too nuanced for a symbol.
Liz