Prostitution question?

[HEART BROKEN]

Hello Everyone.....
Though not needing money.
!. Why would some people dress in fem.and obiviuosly not look fem then prostitute

themselves? (sometimes for little or no money)
I would greatly appreciate any thought on this from anyone.

[ReineD]

Heart Broken, I think you meant to post this in the Male to Female Crossdressing section? I'm asking here to clarify this before I move it.

This is the transsexual section and the members here do not dress for sexual reasons, much less for prostitution. Transwomen express who they are.

Male to female crossdressers don't wish to prostitute themselves either, although there are some fetish CDs who enjoy dressing provocatively.

Do you have a particular incident in mind that prompted you to ask this question? And why do you wish to post it in this section?

[Faith_G]

If your SO is doing this you need to leave the relationship NOW, and get tested for STD's. This is extremely unhealthy behavior and totally unacceptable (says Miss Obvious).

There are trans women who are sex workers, but they need the money. Someone out there doing it for "fun" has some really severe issues with self-worth and possibly a death wish.

[DeeInGeorgia]

As Faith_G said, some transwomen are sex workers. And you have to remember, you will not see too many of them on this forum, as they have no time and money for incidentals like access to a computer. As I understand it, many started out as homeless teens, with no skills. Others may have started later, but again due to the inability to find a job. My guess is that many are non-op or pre-op. All are just trying to survive.

Deanna

[HEART BROKEN]

Okay,.Lets see.Person claims to be a man in a womens body,Would dress fem 24/7 if could.Even went as far as taking some kind of harmones ordered from a magazine some 20 years ago.This lasted two months then they ran out of money.I guess they must be very expensive.Goes out in public dressed,shops in public,wears fem clothes under street clothes almost 24 /7. I do not think this person actually knows who they are.Although all this is not done where the person lives.

[Faith_G]

I'm sorry. :hugs: It is time to walk away, I think. :(

[HEART BROKEN]

Thank you Faith G........I would hope my SO does not do this .

Deanna thank you for your response........Person was older,not homeless.Does anyone think it is possible....... in this persons mind that it made them more fem or made them feel more fem? Could ithey have an off sense of being more of a women because they can get a male off?

[Faith_G]

It sounds to me more like the person has really low self worth and feels they deserve to be abused and degraded.

[AKAMichelle]

I don't think that femininity had anything to do with it. Survival did. It is sad when somebody feels that there is worth so little that will sell there life for a few crumbs.

[HEART BROKEN]

Faith,
You may have hit on something.Person has stated numerous times they can remember as far back to at least age 4 stealing sisters clothes and hiding to put them on.Im thinking if this person was abused sexually by a male for an extended period of time during childhood they may have self loathing.Anyone have suggestions as to how to help bring them up from this awful disposition? Therapy and or any kind of mental health evalutions are not an option do to occupation.

Michelle, I know it's really saddening.Whats even worse is the stories that have been told to me.The horrific things some people did to this person while out there.

[morgan pure]

There's nothing wrong with prostitution.

Most of us want to be women. Traditional women's roles (especially marriage) are always defined by sexual availability in response to continued and specific financial remuneration or its equivalent.

Economically, it's a lucrative way for an unskilled young woman or man to make a decent living.

Psychologically, the total debasement of abject submission is the ultimate experience of the female worldview.

And personally, in two very scary times of my life, working girls offerred me real support and love that my more proper sisters were unwilling or unable to give. Oddly in both instances, 20 years apart, they were Puerto Rican ts's, both named Angel. What does that tell ya?

Morgan

[Faith_G]

Um, OK...

I think there's a lot wrong with prostitution.

I don't condemn people who feel they have been forced into prostitution to earn a living, and being a sex worker does not render someone incapable of doing good things. But it's not good on an emotional level for anyone involved, and it is a very dangerous business.

All your story tells me is that two kind women empathized with your situation and reached out to you with compassion. They were indeed appropriately named. :)

[charlotte_sp]

Psychologically, the total debasement of abject submission is the ultimate experience of the female worldview.

Sorry for the non-sequitur, but this made me go "wtf!" I'll assume you're only speaking for yourself there.

@HEART BROKEN: I know you said therapy is not an option, but if there's any way around it, I think it would help a lot. As for your original question of why, I think the person in question would best know the answer to that.

I'm a little wary of the way you added "obviously not look fem," because I don't see why that is relevant. Would you ask the same question if she looked more fem?

[Melissa A.]

Faith,
You may have hit on something.Person has stated numerous times they can remember as far back to at least age 4 stealing sisters clothes and hiding to put them on.Im thinking if this person was abused sexually by a male for an extended period of time during childhood they may have self loathing.Anyone have suggestions as to how to help bring them up from this awful disposition? Therapy and or any kind of mental health evalutions are not an option do to occupation.

Michelle, I know it's really saddening.Whats even worse is the stories that have been told to me.The horrific things some people did to this person while out there.

Really? Ok, I see, now... a desire to wear the clothing of another gender has got be the result of some kind of abuse, and someone who crossdresses or expresses gender variant behavior at a young age simply must hate themselves. Thank you for the diagnosis, doctor.

"Goes out in public dressed,shops in public,wears fem clothes under street clothes almost 24 /7. I do not think this person actually knows who they are."

But you do. All the self-appointed guardians of all that is moral do. Gender variance is a result of confusion. Abuse. Of course. It has to be. It's just not NORMAL. And gay men weren't born gay. They just didn't get enough love from their fathers. All this stuff that we can't deal with, and makes us so darn uncomfortable, is curable. It's not normal, so it must be. We don't hate you. We want to help you.

The dangers of prostitution, and what brings some people to it notwithstanding, I have only one question...

Why are you here? Really.

Hugs,

Melissa:)

[Faith_G]

I kinda missed this one 'cause I was so blown away by Morgan's post.


Person has stated numerous times they can remember as far back to at least age 4 stealing sisters clothes and hiding to put them on.Um, guilty. I was never sexually abused. That's actually pretty standard for TS women.

Just because I am also concerned about the voluntary prostitution does not mean that I agree with you that the woman is confused about her identity. Just because you don't think she's pretty doesn't mean she's not a woman.