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chantelle
08-19-2004, 05:24 AM
When We Dress Up As Women We Are More Than Male And More Than Female We Are A Third Sex. Seperate From The Other Two Sexes.who Agrees And Who Don.t.chantelle.
suzi_cd
08-19-2004, 05:27 AM
When i dress I'm not a woman but I'm not a man...
suzi
xx
Shy Charlotte
08-19-2004, 05:54 AM
I guess it depends on who you ask. Some feel like less of a man and not quite a woman, while some others would feel like women sans the "penis-envy" as per Freud.
Personally I feel more like A. but if I can manage to get my make-up right and the moon is full, then I'd be more of a B. crossdresser.
Just my 2 cents.
Jennifer_Ph
08-19-2004, 06:11 AM
Well... One's sex is what equipment you're packin. Physically. If you have a penis tucked into your pantyhose you're still a man. But not in your mind. I'm just sayin' technically So I'd say we're not a third sex. We are who and what we are, no matter how high the heel!
GurlAtHeart84
08-19-2004, 07:23 AM
When i'm dressed up, I feel totally like a girl, I love the feelings that dressing give me, and I loose most of my male tendencies.
Marda
08-19-2004, 08:54 AM
Hi TGirls,
~
*Yes* My Lovelies ... it's *True* ...
*We Are Officially What We Are* !!!
There are quite a number of reasons behind this decision
but we won't go into them now ...
The main point is ...
"Don't worry ... Be Happy" !!!
~
Love / Marda
ps:
Only *Some* of us are *Truly Androgynous* ...
*Beware* of *SkinJObs* !!!
KewTnCurvy GG
08-19-2004, 10:15 AM
I think any and all answers are correct. To me it's a little like, looking at the colour blue. One of us may see a deep ocean blue while another sees a dark stormy blue. Perspective only changes our experience of it. Therefore, I don't see any 'rights or wrongs' here.
hugs
kew
eleventhdr
08-19-2004, 10:35 AM
Yes indeed you maybe right!. Suzy Ann!.
Tristen Cox
08-19-2004, 11:33 AM
Ok I'll agree here. And may I add that I have meet some CDs and they were the happiest and most knowledgeable(about both sexes)people I've ever known. When there's nothing to hold back you can be so much more.
flicka
08-19-2004, 12:39 PM
When We Dress Up As Women We Are More Than Male And More Than Female We Are A Third Sex. Seperate From The Other Two Sexes.who Agrees And Who Don.t.chantelle.
When I'm dressed my imagination takes such a grip that I am COMPLETELY female to the very recesses of my mind, completely eliminating my male persona.
Amelie
08-19-2004, 01:46 PM
[QUOTE=KewTnCurvy]I think any and all answers are correct. To me it's a little like, looking at the colour blue. One of us may see a deep ocean blue while another sees a dark stormy blue. Perspective only changes our experience of it. Therefore, I don't see any 'rights or wrongs' here
That's right Kew, and some of us are drowning in that ocean of blue.
I was wondering if it's possible to belong to the forth sex. That is someone less than a male, and less than a female?
Love Amelie
Collette
08-19-2004, 03:48 PM
Yes, seperate from the other two sexes. Collette
Priss
08-19-2004, 09:44 PM
When We Dress Up As Women We Are More Than Male And More Than Female We Are A Third Sex. Seperate From The Other Two Sexes.who Agrees And Who Don.t.chantelle.
Personally, I don't like the idea of referring to anyone as a third gender. A lot of the straights already have a name for this... "*******" or "IT". Unfortunately in our world, if you get classified as an IT, those people who are classifying you as such will also then see you as Non-human... It only gets worse from there.:rolleyes:
See yourself what ever way you please, but when it comes to dealing with other than our kind, chose one of the genders. I somehow doubt the human race will ever accept a third gender.:(
Alayna
08-19-2004, 11:04 PM
I don't really agree that we have to accept one gender. Many of us are androgynes, meaning there are parts of both genders that we identify with. I'm careful not to use the word "sex" because. like what Jennifer said, I believe that is only the sum of our "equipment". I don't think of myself as male or female personally - when I'm dressed I feel feminine, when I'm in drab I feel masculine. In fact, the reason I dress is so I can explore and indulge in those femnine feelings that are naturally a part of me. I don't lose my masculinity, but my femininity takes over at that point, especially if it's been ignored for a while. Maybe this helps explain why sometimes all we want to do is dress up, and others we don't even think about it, like we're trying to maintain a balance. I know that after a week of camping - and all the roughing it and depravity that goes with it - the first thing I want to do when I get home is put on panties and a skirt and act totally girly. On the other side, if I've been dressing too much in a span of time, I want to get out and play with power tools and get dirt under my fingernails and go all caveman. What I'm saying is that we're not a third gender, but members of one sex (primarily male) that incorporate both genders into our identity. Everybody does this to a point, but we have a means through crossdressing to really explore it. Just my 2 cents
KewTnCurvy GG
08-20-2004, 12:06 AM
[QUOTE=Amelie
That's right Kew, and some of us are drowning in that ocean of blue.
I was wondering if it's possible to belong to the forth sex. That is someone less than a male, and less than a female?
Love Amelie[/QUOTE]
Amelie, I think anything's possible sweety. :)
hugs
kew
suzi_cd
08-20-2004, 12:13 AM
Maybe there are, in fact, countless sexes.. from very much male to very much female with all shades between.
Of course there is the physical sex that you exhibit - in drab and when dressed (which may or may not be the same depending on your reasons for dressing),
there is the genetic sex that you are (regardless of external attributes) and there is the "mental" sex which is what you see yourself as.
My brain is hurting... I think I need to go and lie down somewhere
suzi
xxx
Victoria Pink
08-20-2004, 03:53 AM
Girls,
I agree with what Alayna said. Dressing up for me is a way of letting the girlie out of me. A pair of panties and a skirt can do that. It allows me to be in a different state of mind and sometimes helps me to see problems at work from a different perspective too.
Victoria
Priss
08-20-2004, 09:38 AM
I don't really agree that we have to accept one gender. Many of us are androgynes, meaning there are parts of both genders that we identify with. I'm careful not to use the word "sex" because. like what Jennifer said, I believe that is only the sum of our "equipment". I don't think of myself as male or female personally - when I'm dressed I feel feminine, when I'm in drab I feel masculine. In fact, the reason I dress is so I can explore and indulge in those femnine feelings that are naturally a part of me. I don't lose my masculinity, but my femininity takes over at that point, especially if it's been ignored for a while. Maybe this helps explain why sometimes all we want to do is dress up, and others we don't even think about it, like we're trying to maintain a balance. I know that after a week of camping - and all the roughing it and depravity that goes with it - the first thing I want to do when I get home is put on panties and a skirt and act totally girly. On the other side, if I've been dressing too much in a span of time, I want to get out and play with power tools and get dirt under my fingernails and go all caveman. What I'm saying is that we're not a third gender, but members of one sex (primarily male) that incorporate both genders into our identity. Everybody does this to a point, but we have a means through crossdressing to really explore it. Just my 2 cents
That's all well and good to me. What Iam saying however is simply we need to be careful how we present ourselves outside of a safe place. If one were to get caught "flip flopping", one could very quickly become identified as an IT, and seen as non-human. To be anything but human, makes one an easy target to be slaughtered like an animal. While most may just turn away in disgust, others will see a need to cleanse society and may literally do so. It happens all of the time.
http://www.gender.org/remember/index.html
These are just those who have been identified and are being counted. There are likely so many others that no one really knows for what reasons they were murdered... For whatever reason it happened to these people, nobody wants to see this list grow.
So what Iam saying, be what you want to be, feel the way you want to feel, do what you want to do. However realize that if you drop your guard out in a public place, you may put yourself in danger. For example I recently read a post here somewhere where someone mentioned going into a restroom as one gender and coming out as another. Like she said, be discrete if you're gonna play this game, because if the wrong person catches you doing this, well...
carolynhcd
08-22-2004, 02:59 PM
I don't want to be obtuse or pedantic, but what all of us are doing is the RIGHT THING. I have studied many subjects for many years and I know that we are all on the trail of the truth about ourselves. Alchemy, we are taught in school, is about people trying to turn lead into gold. NOT TRUE! It's about finding the true essence of ourselves and discarding the rest as trash or dross. There are alchemical texts regardinging this subject, such as the "Mysterium Conjunctionum" that speak of a mystical or alchemical marriage between the masculine and the feminine. Those of you who are older AND more experienced will know how boring it is to **** your 40th girlfriend while still denying the real girl inside you. What we are all now embarked on, with differing degrees of commitment, is that alchemical marrriage that unites our masculine and feminine sides into what we were always meant to be. In Plato's Symposium, the great Attic playwright, Aristophanes, says that when Zeus originally created humans they had two heads and four arms and four legs (and you think it's hard to shave now), but this made them so capable that the gods feared for their safety and decided to split them up to diminish their powers. Originally, there were three sexes: male joined to male, female joined to female and male joined to female. Since that separation, we have all struggled to be rejoined to what was taken from us and that is what motivates us all today to do what we do. That's why some of us are married and hiding our bras and panties from our wives. Others of us have never married because we knew we could never give up who we knew ourselves to be. The preeminent text of alchemy is the Emerald Tablets of Hermes Trismegistus. In it, it is said "As above, so below". In the Gospel of Thomas ( the doubter), it says, "Jesus said: when you make the inner as the outer, and the outer as the inner; when you make the above as the below, and the below as the above; when you make the male as the female and the female as the male... then shall you enter into the kingdom of heaven." Our community has suffered so much over the years because of other people's fears WHEN WE KNOW WE ARE RIGHT, I just think it's time we start to feel better about ourselves and realize that we are on our own path to truth. I'm not saying we're better than anyone else, but we have a difficult path in front of us and ample literary justification to tell us we are on the right path. Love to all girlie-boys, Carolyn
chantelle
08-23-2004, 05:05 AM
May You All Recieve The Best In Life For Being So Open And Replying To My Post,chantelle.
Alayna
08-25-2004, 12:19 AM
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http://www.gender.org/remember/index.html
So what Iam saying, be what you want to be, feel the way you want to feel, do what you want to do. However realize that if you drop your guard out in a public place, you may put yourself in danger.
Yikes! That website's scary as hell! From a common-sense point of view I totally agree. While we should feel free to do what we wish, we must also accept the responsibilities, be they to ourselves or others, that come with that freedom. Interestingly enough, it's very female to be conscious of our surroundings in that matter. As a guy, how often do you really think about going out alone at night? Girls have to think about that all the time!
crispy
09-01-2004, 03:46 AM
I feel totally androgynous when I'm dressed. But both sides of me feel capable of loving the other side of me, I feel totally and beautifully narcissistic.
As I have said before, .......... in my dreams...........
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