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Brenda's Friend
11-13-2010, 10:47 AM
Edit from Reine: I've changed the title, from "Where are you in the crossdresser continuum?" to "Where are you at?" in order to make the title better reflect the OP's question. The thread is already up to post #21, in case anyone wonders why there is the beginning of a debate over why TSs are not called CDs. :p :hugs:
Fetish – An obsession for a particular item or style. Generally used for sexual gratification.
All or Nothing – A strong urge to dress. Only satisfied if you are dressed as completely as possible. No particular desire to be the other gender, even when dressed.
Fashion – You like the look or feel of the opposite gender’s fashions. No particular desire to be the other gender.
Androgynous – You do not feel that you are either sex. A trend towards a more gender neutral look.
Partial – You have an urge to underdress 24/7. You may sometimes fully dress.
Part-time – You are both a man and a woman. You embrace both genders.
Full-time – You wish you were born the other gender. You either dress 24/7 or you want to.
Pre-Op – You are transitioning to change your gender. You live full-time as a as that gender.
Post-Op – You have physically changed your gender.
Other – Hey, I can’t think of everything.
I personally fit into the All or Nothing. I do have very strong urges to dress, but have never felt that I am female.
Sandy Banks
11-13-2010, 11:08 AM
Same as you Brenda............:2c:
katrinakat
11-13-2010, 11:10 AM
We all live on a spectrum of gender. Some go further others don't. It's up to you to decide how far your willing to go to obtain your "femme" goal. It's a journey, enjoy the ride.
Sara Jessica
11-13-2010, 11:18 AM
Now don't get me wrong, I'm all good with the label thing. It's how we human beings describe ourselves and what we encounter in this wonderful world of ours. But even though I understand what you are asking, you make a key error in how you phrased the question. The continuum you describe is transgender rather than simply crossdresser. For example, I'd have a hard time imagining someone who is post-op describing herself as being on the crossdresser continuum.
Cassandra Lynn
11-13-2010, 11:30 AM
I have to agree with Sara here, no offense Friend of Brenda, but your continuum is rather different from what many here feel. You might want to use the Tag feature and do some looking back into all the archives of labeling threads.
Your question is one of those that is very subjective. But if pressed to answer i would offer that i'm in a state of progression on the TRANSGENERED spectrum and i'm somewhere in the middle, sometimes less, sometimes more TG.
mj (Cassie)
Karren H
11-13-2010, 11:39 AM
I don't put myself into categories... I where I want to be and don't plan on changing teams...
Cindia
11-13-2010, 12:32 PM
While its true that it would be very difficult to come up with a label to fit everyone and really labels are not necessary, it is fun sometimes to see where you are in relation to others. So using this scale, you could call me a "part time all or nothing fetishist"
When the urge and opportunity to dress mesh, I go as all out as I can, try to act as a female and it is usually sexual.
AvidFan
11-13-2010, 12:54 PM
When I'm at work I cant wait to get home and slip on some panties and a bra, I don't feel the urge to wear makeup all the time. Also, at work, every female customer that comes in, I find myself really watching what they are wearing. I also love "window shopping" on lingerie sites. I also cant help how turned on I am when I'm dressed. Partial, fashion, fetish. Its all 3 of those for me.
Rachel Morley
11-13-2010, 01:05 PM
I agree with the others, labels are not always a good thing as it's hard to quantity where we all feel we all are. In my case, I guess the nearest thing on your list to me is: "Part-time – You are both a man and a woman. You embrace both genders." ... although more than that as I'm strongly leaning towards the next category on your list too as I (sometimes) wish I were born the other gender and would like to dress as near 24/7 as I could if there were no social stigmas involved (like dressing at work for example).
thechic
11-13-2010, 01:12 PM
using your scale i would say im full timer
Michelle James
11-13-2010, 01:25 PM
Crossdressing Continuum?
Wasn't that an episode on Star Trek? LOL
I would have to select D. All of the above
Amy S
11-13-2010, 01:44 PM
Geez, that's a tough question. I choose confused! :-) I think I fall in to several of those categories, depending on the time of day.
Marcy 1
11-13-2010, 01:49 PM
Probably somewhere between partial and part time, but then again sometimes it depends on what time of day it is.
StaceyJane
11-13-2010, 02:21 PM
I'm not full time but I would like to be. I do wish I had been born a girl.
AllieSF
11-13-2010, 02:28 PM
I understood the question, regardless of the title phrase. I, for now, am:
"All or Nothing – A strong urge to dress. Only satisfied if you are dressed as completely as possible. No particular desire to be the other gender, even when dressed. and,
Fashion – You like the look or feel of the opposite gender’s fashions. No particular desire to be the other gender."
The difference in the "All or nothing" is that it is not always all or nothing. At this stage of my life I just really enjoy dressing up and going out to meet and interact with people in the real world in mainstream venues, with some LGBT sites thrown if for fun and games. I don't need to be totally satisfied by dressing, just like being dressed and getting out.
carhill2mn
11-13-2010, 03:55 PM
"Labels" and "definitions" are tricky. Not everyone will ever agree in total. Although I would disagree with some of your "labels", using them as written, I am both "all or nothing" and "part-time". When I am en femme I always am completely en femme and I do not have a desire to physically "become a woman".
When I am with my family and non-T friends I am male (although my underwear is not) even though I wear my gel nails long with some sort of light polish, draw on my eyebrows and keep hair off my hands and arms.
sandra-leigh
11-13-2010, 04:10 PM
I feel that I am not male, but I am not at all sure that I am "female". That part would place me as androgynous. However, I only wear female clothes, sometimes not noticeably, sometimes pushing the boundaries ("since a guy is wearing it, I guess it must be men's?") even at work, sometimes outright wearing skirt or dress (though not at work). I haven't worn a wig in about a year and a half. I would be happy to switch over to obvious women's clothes even at work.
I do not fit the above list, as I would wear the clothes 24/7, but I do not "wish I had been born the other gender". I've had some tough experiences in my life, but that doesn't mean I wish they had not happened.
well i am in the universe as know to humans, on planet earth in a distant and lonely arm on the milkey-way galaxy. with a small yellowish star, third ball from it with only one natural satellite, living on one of the larger chunks of land,(planet is 2/3 water) in a great country, but on a hill side, over looking a very large valley, in the middle - left world map block listed as 12/D, and/or 38*08.887 X 120*50.831 +- a couple hundred feet via the local gps satellites.
this is were i live.
but as for how i live i am a part-timer. born male, dress mostly woman, even as male i dress in items bought in the lady's dept.
linnea
11-13-2010, 04:27 PM
Given these choices, I'd say, "Full-time." I'm not full-time yet, but I want to be and I'm making progress in that direction.
MargaretJ
11-13-2010, 05:00 PM
Fashion and all or nothing. I got into this because of stockings and heels, but as the years rolled on, got the urge to dress, and now I'm not satisfied unless fully dressed and made up. Still with an strong interest in stockings and heels though.
Christina2008
11-13-2010, 05:06 PM
On you scale I’d say somewhere between Partial and Part-time, with a bit of fashion thrown in.
crashd0309
11-13-2010, 05:12 PM
partial
Susie2
11-13-2010, 05:35 PM
Partial, Part time, with an occasional leaning towards Fetish, and intermittent thoughts about Full time!
Mahoro
11-13-2010, 06:10 PM
I found your choice of the word "continuum" to be extremely thought provoking, and had to look up a few definitions to be sure I was considering the question clearly;
World English Dictionary (via Dictionary.com) says;
"a continuous series or whole, no part of which is perceptibly different from the adjacent parts"
Where Merriam Webster has a slightly different take;
"a coherent whole characterized as a collection, sequence, or progression of values or elements varying by minute degrees"
Taking these definitions under advisement, I would have to give two answers based on 'The Crossdressing Continuum' being encompassing of both internal gender identity and outwards expression.
For identity I am "other", and would self label as bi-gender, which could be described as the opposite of androgynous - meaning I have all the personality traits typically labeled as both female and male mixed together into one whole, regardless of what I wear or how I choose to present my self at any given time. It's not neither, it's Both, all the time, and I've felt that way inside my entire life. This would be the aspect of my 'personal continuum' that is continuous and coherent.
For presentation I guess I would select "part time", as I love being pretty and dressed up with cute clothes and make up, and do so as often as possible, however I am just as comfortable in a suit and tie as well, and find that drab mode is more advantageous in certain circumstances. This would be the aspect of my 'personal continuum' that is a series, collection and sequence, and certainly over time a progression regarding how this manifested on the outside.
For me presentation has also at times been more a 'blended' solution fitting with my bi-gender internal makeup, for example when I was younger I had long curly hair and often got mistaken for a girl even though I was not dressing as such, and now days I often grow out my natural nails and still have feminine mannerisms at all times, although without the wig and concealer on these days there is little chance of my guy mode being mis-read any more. As time has taken it's toll I've just had to find ways to adapt, LOL!
Anyways, thanks for the interesting question!
Samantha43
11-13-2010, 10:29 PM
Somewhere between all or nothing and fashion with some part time thrown in.
vickilynn
11-13-2010, 11:31 PM
Would have to go with full time, always have felt that I am female.
Marcia Blue
11-13-2010, 11:52 PM
All or Nothing/Fashion
I really love to emulate a woman, but no desire to get rid of my male self. I have been hit on dressed and really feel out of place when it happens.:o Interacting with GGs is really high on my list of fun things to do.
Jeannie
11-14-2010, 12:11 AM
OK, I guess I'm all screwed up because I kinda fit into the all or nothing and the fashion categories. There are also times when I think I would like to be female but I also enjoy my male side. But the bottom line is I enjoy the fact that I can dress when I desire and that's pretty cool as far as I am concerned. I do have support from my wife and that means so much to me.
XOXOXO
Jeannie
alyssaenglefield
11-14-2010, 02:49 AM
All or Nothing/Fashion - definitely
Fran Moore
11-14-2010, 03:03 AM
I'm with Marcia on this one!
All or Nothing/Fashion
I really love to emulate a woman, but no desire to get rid of my male self. I have been hit on dressed and really feel out of place when it happens.:o Interacting with GGs is really high on my list of fun things to do.
eluuzion
11-14-2010, 03:54 AM
You would have to specify a specific year, month, day, and time of day for me to answer that question with any meaning.
Not being a wise-acre...just being truthful...:thumbsup:
:love:
Rianna Humble
11-14-2010, 04:20 AM
Using your scale, I am currently stuck part way between Full-time and Pre-Op since I have been diagnosed and am living full time as my real gender, but because of funding issues with my local health authority haven't started Gender therapy leading to hormones etc.
However, I am glad the title of the thread has been amended since I gave up cross-dressing at the end of June when I put away my man-clothes for the last time.
Danni Bear
11-14-2010, 04:33 AM
lookig back through the "LOOKING GLASS"
and happy that I passed through on my way to who I am.
Danni
Joanne f
11-14-2010, 05:16 AM
I wish it was that simple to put into a category but i will have a go , it`s not a Fetish, yes a strong urge to dress most of the time, yes i like the fashion or should i say the clothes of the female gender but i am not a fashion follower ( you've noticed):heehee:, yes i dress androgynous all the time as it passes within my life style which gives me some relief without causing offence to my family ,Partial,yes i under dress all the time and dress fully when i can which is very rare these days,Part time, this is getting to the difficult parts as i think there is very little male in me so this bit becomes a struggle ,Full time, yes most of the time i wish i was born the other gender and would like to dress that way most of the time , Pre-Op and Post -Op not much point in me answering them as they do not apply as i try to use my logical way of thinking in how that would just not work for me in the life style sense not the gender sense but i can think of a way around that and would make me happy but not upset my children( might upset my wife though).
It can become a balancing act between what you would like to do or be and what you will allow your selfe to be or do taking all things into account , so if you would like to put me into a catagory just put me in the " Mixed up one " :heehee:
morgan51
11-14-2010, 09:00 AM
Full time - pre op sort of a mixed bag here Damn I don't do well with labels. I'm sure I am me!
My Lady Marsea
11-14-2010, 09:15 AM
Guess I'm like in a category not presented....label me finally happy in life with myself, no regrets or wutever in my choice and living each day for myself to it's fullest. Other than that I'm in the pre op choice...no doubts or wutever about it.
StephanieC
11-14-2010, 09:30 AM
I took this question to be a fun survey, not a deep exploration of labels or motives. Based on your categories/definitions, I'm closer to "full-time'.
Part-time / confused here.
flatlander_48
11-14-2010, 11:26 AM
On the scale as given, I would choose Partial. Until recently, I worked primarily in an office. I underdressed about 98% of the time. Now that I am once again spending part of my time on a construction site, the percentage has dropped to 10% to 20%.I sometimes fully dress at home. I have gone out dressed before, but it was about 8 years ago...
MelonieS
11-14-2010, 01:42 PM
a guy who LUV's to dress, just wish I could pass.....just a little.
docrobbysherry
11-14-2010, 02:46 PM
I am ABSOLUTELY a; "fetish, all or nothing, fashion, other!"
( More or less, sometimes!)
Jan Michell Collins
11-14-2010, 02:53 PM
other??
Debra Russell
11-14-2010, 02:59 PM
I personally fit into the All or Nothing. I do have very strong urges to dress, but have never felt that I am female
Except sometimes as I observe GG's and am in deep admiration of their femininity I find myself wishing to be one of them:c9:
Vikki Vixen
11-14-2010, 03:03 PM
Not sure where I would fit on any scale, I like cross dressing but have no desire to do it all the time. I am very manly in everyday life and would probably be the last picked if people where asked to pick who is the CD out of a group of people. Cross dressing is a very sexual thing for me especially high heels. Jealous of the fact that girls have much more variety of things to wear to 'improve' their look for example I have quite short muscular legs, if I was a girl I would be advised to wear tight fitting trousers on the thigh that flare out from the knee downwards and add very high heels (and it does work) but there is no equivalent for men. I would ideally pick and choose when I dress as a girl and mix and match to 'gender bend' my look. I adore women and prefer their company but don't want to be one would miss my extra bits too much.
So if anyone can tell me where I fit in then please do, it's the diversity of people on this site and the total acceptance of this diversity that makes me think we all have our place and the scale has a million different places for us all to be.
Christina89
11-14-2010, 05:41 PM
i am all or nothing and fashion.
Jorja
11-14-2010, 06:52 PM
I smashed the looking glass after I passed through. Now, what did I do with that darn GPS unit?
Stephanie47
11-14-2010, 07:44 PM
Trying to figure out where I am is not productive. I stopped trying to analyze myself decades ago. I love dressing up as a woman because it allows me peace of mind. Being retired now I can dress in very pretty clothes that feel great with greater frequency. Did I ever want to be a woman? No! But acting out as a woman tending to the home allows me to escape the stresses of being a male or the memories of stress as a male. Acting out as a female kind of makes the bad memories of combat experiences of along ago disappear for awhile.
PretzelGirl
11-14-2010, 10:47 PM
I am okay with labels as long as we understand their limitations. Language is built around labels as that is how we describe things.
Having said that, I will go with part-time. I still don't know for sure which side is stronger, so I just say 50-50 and go with it. Life is more enjoyable having fun than sitting around trying to understand it.
lingeriegurl
11-14-2010, 11:42 PM
I am a cross dresser with lots of other fetishes so I guess cross dressing is one of them.
Danni Bear
11-14-2010, 11:56 PM
I smashed the looking glass after I passed through. Now, what did I do with that darn GPS unit?
it's right there under the hammer Jorja
smashing
Danni
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