ZOMG!!! I met a T gurl today

[Juliemckay]

How do I know? She told me!!


I stopped into the local vitamin/heathfood store today, looking to pick up a few things. I was underdressed but i had on some mascara, eyeliner and a bit of shadow. I was wandering around looking for the stuff I needed (like I always do) when the SA came up and asked me if I needed help (which I did). The SA was a tall slender woman about my age. We went around the store picking up the stuff that I needed. I didn't pay much attenion to the SA, except that fact that I hated her shoes and the slacks. When we got down to the last couple of items to get, she mentions to me that "getting the right look is tough for us girls" I said "Us?", her replay was us CDers. I was floored and a bit shocked. She goes on to tell me bit about her and I finally mentioned a few things about my dressing. From there on out it was two GG's out shopping (one in drab). When I was headed out the door, she pulls me aside and says that she is straight and she is looking for a shopping buddy and asked if I wanted to join her some day. I called the number she gave me once I got home, and made arrangments to shop in early January. I'll be dressing at her house then off to the mall and a bit of lunch.

I'm stoked... looking for some makeup tips (hers was flawless) and a day out.

[Nicki S]

Wow, you hit a home run!!

[sandra-leigh]

She was working dressed?? Lucky gal!

Was the store part of a chain, and if so then was it just her boss that was CD friendly, or was it the chain as a whole? If it was the chain as a whole, some of the members might be wanting to submit resumes :)

[Juliemckay]

Trying to figure out how she clocked me. I can't tell if it was the HHOF ball cap or the Redwings jersey.


PS: with my glasses on one would have to be right in my face to see the makeup.


She was working dressed?? Lucky gal!

Was the store part of a chain, and if so then was it just her boss that was CD friendly, or was it the chain as a whole? If it was the chain as a whole, some of the members might be wanting to submit resumes :)


National chain store. As for the details, you ladies will have to wait. I was too taken abck to even think about those questions.

And yes, she was fully dressed. Waiting for Karren to come in and tell us about slacks.


It wasn't until she brought it up that I began to notice the very few tells she had... she passed very very well

[Karren H]

That's awesome... Just a word of caution... I've had a number of local girls declare they were "straight" but that isn't always the case... Not saying that's what's going on but just be aware.... My wife can attest that we crossdressers are prolific liars! Lol.

Omg I missed she was wearing slacks!!! Ekkkk!!! Danger Will Robinsin.... Danger!!

[Juliemckay]

That's awesome... Just a word of caution... I've had a number of local girls declare they were "straight" but that isn't always the case... Not saying that's what's going on but just be aware.... My wife can attest that we crossdressers are prolific liars! Lol.

Omg I missed she was wearing slacks!!! Ekkkk!!! Danger Will Robinsin.... Danger!!


My brain sent off a lot of red flags when she came out and said that she was straight. I didn't think to even ask about that, yet she told me. The plans aren't final yet, maybe I'll dress at home... prolly much safer

[Karren H]

The fact she told you AND the slacks would make me run! Hahaha. But I'd still take her up on it. A local girl had this fantastic wedding gown that she would let me wear and she said she was straight too... We had a great time but turns out she was selectively straight.... We lost contact with each other but had planned to be "shopping buddies". I think "shopping" has a different meaining! :D

[Juliemckay]

The fact she told you AND the slacks would make me run! Hahaha. But I'd still take her up on it. A local girl had this fantastic wedding gown that she would let me wear and she said she was straight too... We had a great time but turns out she was selectively straight.... We lost contact with each other but had planned to be "shopping buddies". I think "shopping" has a different meaining! :D

I'm planning to meet her at a local mall when we go shopping, prolly the best idea. I really want to find a shopping buddy, it's pretty boring always going alone.


And most GGs rarely go out alone. I think that is what make many of us stick out

[AllieSF]

Julie, I think that is awesome you met someone. Since she works full time, she is probably more TS, or at least a strong TG than a CD. You just have to trust your instincts. I do not think that she would jeopardize her work, if she violated your trust since you know where she works. I say go into it with an open mind and enjoy the friendship and hopefully it will work out fine over the long run. Good luck.

[JiveTurkeyOnRye]

First off you'd be surprised how easy makeup is to see even with glasses on, in fact I've had ggs tell me I they only noticed because of my glasses. She had to have been pretty sure to put herself out there like that.

I wouldn't worry too much about the straight comment. She probably just meant she wasn't hitting on you.

[Julogden]

Yeah, it's fairly common to find t-girls who are attracted to other t-girls, plenty of that in these forums from what I've seen, but so what?

Don't let the concerns of a few here scare you out of making a new friend. And even if she is attracted to you, if you aren't interested back, you can still be friends, I know that from experience.

It sounds to me like she's potentially a great friend, and your initial enthusiasm evident in your original posting is fully warranted. Have fun!

Carol

[Vickie_CDTV]

I would also assume she is more TS than a crossdresser if she is working en femme, she is probably fulltime or spends most of her life as a woman (I don't know of many workplaces where one could go back and forth between male and female.) I am very surprised she would be willing to "out" herself like that, and it is a credit to her she is willing to do that (not everyone could take that chance.) I'd go for it, and take her up on her offer of friendship.

For those who claim to be straight and later express interest in other TG, one needs to bear in mind that they may be sincerely heterosexual. However, it can be a very lonely life for some of us (I know this too well), and a GG partner may not be easy to find (or even possible to find for some.) It makes sense that some may turn to another TG for a partner, and I have known a number of folks in this situation.

[Starla]

Since she works full time, she is probably more TS, or at least a strong TG than a CD.


I would also assume she is more TS than a crossdresser if she is working en femme, she is probably fulltime or spends most of her life as a woman.

Not necessarily. Health food/nutrition/natural food type businesses probably have a clientele that skews more liberal/alternative lifestyle than others, so even a national chain might have more progressive "dress codes" than other types of retail. There could even be some variation according to store location -- an outlet in an upscale mall might expect a more conventional employee presentation than a store from the same chain located in a trendy, youth-oriented neighborhood.

When I was in full Starla mode back in the day, I worked two different jobs as a female, one with a very old and traditional national company. While I believed myself to be TS at the time, and told them as much, no one ever asked me for an official diagnosis or therapist's statement to that effect -- they just took my word for it. For all they knew, I might well have been just a CDer and not officially "transitioning," but it seemed like as long as I acted and dressed appropriately like any female employee, did my job, and made money for their bottom line, the distinction was irrelevant to them. Granted, neither job was a "meeting the public" intensive situation, but I'm sure there are some more liberal retail employers in certain categories that would hire a CDer as long as their appearance or manner are not alarming or make others uncomfortable.

[Christy_M]

I think this is a great opportunity to make a new friend. You never csn have too many. If it turns out not to work out, so be it. Just don´t sacrifice yourself to make a connection because it initially seems perfect. Be yourself and it will take thedirection it is supposed to.

To Karren, those of us who are more "mature" get your Will Robinson reference but younger folks may not... ;)

[Starla]

To Karren, those of us who are more "mature" get your Will Robinson reference but younger folks may not... ;)

Nothing makes me feel older than making some "dated" pop culture reference and having young'uns stare at me, blankly. :sad:

[Juliemckay]

All I'm hoping for is a friendship. My wife knows but hates it and doesn't what to know any more (DADT has not been overturned at my house). It gets rather boring wandering around alone, and not really any RL people to discuss things with. That is why I an excited to meet up.

The phrase CDer was mine, she had a phrase something like "gender non-conformist" or some such thing.


Trust me I know that not being "traditional" can leave a person searching out human interaction.

[Juliemckay]

Nothing makes me feel older than making some "dated" pop culture reference and having young'uns stare at me, blankly. :sad:

Trying madly to not recognise the will robinson remark... partly because of the age thing and partly because the robot creeped me out

[kate dresser]

You can always go back to the store and chat a little more before you decide to go out shopping with her.But sounds great to have a shopping friend. If that happened to me I woudn't be able to stop thinking about it.

[Starla]

The phrase CDer was mine, she had a phrase something like "gender non-conformist" or some such thing.

Sounds a little "granola and sandals" New Agey to me. ;) Sure, in a way we're all "gender non-conformists," but to insist on that nomenclature is little unconventional. Not that that's a bad thing -- she may well turn out to be one of those delightfully quirky souls that inject a bit of color and flavor into our plain vanilla society. She may turn out to be a fun GF!


Trying madly to not recognise the will robinson remark... partly because of the age thing and partly because the robot creeped me out

To me, the robot was funny. I was more creeped out by Dr. Smith. Bad enough that he's such a preening, pompous jerkass, but why did he take such an intense interest in young Will? :eek:

[msginaadoll]

That is so neat julie! It definitely is great to meet other sisters, and glad to hear u both hit it off. The straight comment may have just been one made so that you both feel comfortable around each other- no hidden agendas. Heck if you are around the Detroit area Id love to meet up with ya and go shopping. It is always more fun with another person.

[Juliemckay]

That is so neat julie! It definitely is great to meet other sisters, and glad to hear u both hit it off. The straight comment may have just been one made so that you both feel comfortable around each other- no hidden agendas. Heck if you are around the Detroit area Id love to meet up with ya and go shopping. It is always more fun with another person.

I am around the Detroit area

[Juliemckay]

Sounds a little "granola and sandals" New Agey to me. ;) Sure, in a way we're all "gender non-conformists," but to insist on that nomenclature is little unconventional. Not that that's a bad thing -- she may well turn out to be one of those delightfully quirky souls that inject a bit of color and flavor into our plain vanilla society. She may turn out to be a fun GF!

It was something like that... I was so caught off guard that I didn't really catch what she actually said. It wasn't that exactly. Standing in a store, in shock doesn't help my memory

[Juliemckay]

By the way, I'm not going to mention the store until I get the OK

[tamarav]

It is sort of coincidental that you posted this, I work dressed and just met a CD who walked into the beauty salon where I work and wanted her brows waxed. I waxed them and talked with her at length. I could tell she wanted to ask all sorts of questions but was somewhat scared to ask. Then she abruptly left.

I don't tell people that I am a CD, I just let them think what they are going to think. Also, I don't jump up and down when a CD comes in unless they are really passable and the other stylists don't recognixe that they are a CD.

I no longer worry about the labels people put on themselves, it is just fun to meet people that want to ask something and can't.

[Juliemckay]

It is sort of coincidental that you posted this, I work dressed and just met a CD who walked into the beauty salon where I work and wanted her brows waxed. I waxed them and talked with her at length. I could tell she wanted to ask all sorts of questions but was somewhat scared to ask. Then she abruptly left.

I don't tell people that I am a CD, I just let them think what they are going to think. Also, I don't jump up and down when a CD comes in unless they are really passable and the other stylists don't recognixe that they are a CD.

I no longer worry about the labels people put on themselves, it is just fun to meet people that want to ask something and can't.

I am never on the look out for "one of us" (lord I hate that phrase). I think she may have been lonely and need someone to talk to. I may have been just what she needed. I have known a couple of CDers who have come out and lost their friend/families over it and have felt like they were on an island

[PretzelGirl]

Trying madly to not recognise the will robinson remark... partly because of the age thing and partly because the robot creeped me out

Thankfully there are remake movies done many years later or I wouldn't get all of these references! :brolleyes:

I don't see much of a downside here. Take the safe precautions and enjoy yourself. For instance, I wouldn't go into a stranger's house to change. Meet her at the mall or for a cup of coffee first. So let the relationship develop and if you get bad vibes, you can end it gently. Or the best happens and you have a great shopping buddy! Very cool.

[Nicole Erin]

I had a similar experience earlier this week.
I was pretty excited cause yeah she was all passable and stuff, basically when she leaned over and whispered, "I am TS also".
Thing is, I sent her an email, I am not really getting my hopes up that she responds. have made that misatke before, meet someone who seems pretty interesting and then never hear again. It is aggrivating but I cannot forget that TG are as bad as anyone with keeping up social connections.

Myself, I would love to date an attractive TS woman. Sure I would prefer a GG but pretty TS is the next best thing.

[Rogina B]

Tamara V You are the super CD...you live the life without the extra baggage!

[herwannabe]

That is so cooool I would love to find a gurl here like that

[Chickhe]

There is little risk...she was working, you know where she works and can get her real name pretty easy and you have a phone number. If you want to be really cautious just leave a note at home for your wife to open in case of an emergency...(ie: you don't come home). I think most of us are pretty lonely in that we have no one else who understands about CDing except other CDers. It would be a lot of fun to meet up in person and talk face to face about all this stuff. Sounds like a good chance to make a friend. How you read you...where you looking for hormone supplements? ...perhaps she saw you before and added up some tells to make her final conclusion and if you were chicking out her shoes, that's a give away!

[Fab Karen]

That was lucky. I still wonder what the Z stands for ( Julie "Zenith" said it was for Zenith of course ).

Slacks? Well, before we assume Karren, maybe her employer requires it. :)