Does anyone want to be read by GGs?

[Amanda22]

I apologize if this topic has been discussed earlier. I did some searching but came up with nothing.

When I dress fully feminine and do my best to pass as a woman in public, I've noticed a feeling I've tried to brush off and ignore, yet it's always there. I find the thought of being "read" by women really enjoyable. All I can imagine is that I think I want them to know that I wish I were one of them in the physical sense and I'm doing everything I can to emulate them. As for men, I want to pass because I don't want any trouble.

Does anyone else feel this way? If so, do you know why? Perhaps your reason really would be a reason I haven't admitted to myself. Thanks for your feedback.

[MarinaKirax]

I would prefer not to be read, or if I am read, to have it acknowledged, then dismissed. I think there is a temporary intimacy in sharing a secret, and maybe its the intimacy with other women that is appealing.... like you are all sisters sharing, accepting, and keeping this little secret. What do you think? MK

[Amanda22]

Marina, you phrased that so well. That is a really accurate description of my feeling when this happens. Thank you for your insight.

[Kaz]

That was a good response Marina. I definately do not want to be read by anyone. However, if I were read by a female and was accepted, that would give me a real boost. If I wasn't, it would be a major knock back.

[AndreaS]

The way I look at it, if a GG doesn't read me, then I take that as the highest compliment. I think we get read 10 times more often by GGs who are better at finding the non-feminine qualities than men are. Most men are somewhat clueless when it comes to most of these subtle tells, so if a GG doesn't read me, its a much bigger compiment than if a guy doesn't read me.

Now wanting to be read by a GG just for the sake of sharing some intiment moment is something I haven't given much thought. I guess I would rather "pass" first and then let the GG know on purpose in some way that I'm not a GG. Just my two cents worth.

[Amy Hepker]

I just want to fit in as much as possible, but if I get read by adults who cares, they are not going to lock you up or transport you to a desert Island by yourself to survive. Some GGs will get upset there is no dought, but most even if they do know will not say anything. Guys, well you have the idiots that think they are so macho they can make fun of you, but most will keep their distance and not want anyone to think you might know them.

[Tasha McIntyre]

Good thread Amanda :)

I don't mind being read, by males or females but I actually don't have a lot of say in the matter as I really do not "pass" at all due to my size. If I can blend in and not cause a riot then thats a victory of sorts I suppose. I agree with you though, I would rather be read by a woman than a man.

A couple of random thoughts though, on passing. I think that passing 100% might be great for me as an individual but would not necessarily do much to our total cause. I aim get out and about dressed nicely and appropriately, behaving like any other normal shopper would. That way, those that do cross my path might see a cross dresser, but might also see that we are just doing our thing with no threat to anyone else (unless someone gets between me and the cute dress on the sale rack).

Another thing about being read - I reckon there are heaps of guys that see me at the mall secretly wishing they had my courage to do what I am doing. Maybe, just maybe I can provide a bit of incentive for others to follow their dream.

Tash :)

[Cari]

Ive always thought the best readers were other CD's or their SO's : and that I dont mind. {Unless its an ex So with a chip on their shoulder}

Im kinda torn on second place its either GG's or kids.
GG's usually wont make a scene but no telling what a kid would do.

Men are definately in last place in our literacy challenge. ( Ill take that back most pets really dont care how you are dressed )

I dont think I want to be read by anyone other than another CD.
I guess Id rather a sharing intimate moment over a cup of coffee in a safe place than at random.

[Karren H]

As long as I look good.... I don't care if they or anyone else reads me... I assume everyone knows I crossdress then there are no surprises. ... At least on my end! Lol.

[Amanda22]

I reckon there are heaps of guys that see me at the mall secretly wishing they had my courage to do what I am doing.

Tasha, I've had that same thought. Thanks for your humorous post about causing a riot. I laughed out loud.

[AllieSF]

I really do not care if I am read because I know that I do not pass perfectly. So, getting read has to be expected every time I go out. I prefer that when being read that I am tolerated and even accepted by the public, which has been the case since I started going out almost 4 years ago. I also do know that feeling when a GG smiles at me with her "all knowing" grin, and it does make me feel good, like a co-conspirator.

[Michelle James]

I am out a lot and I try not to believe that I am getting read that often. I have noticed some GG's attitude toward me have changed for the better once they know. Usually they know because I told them. So in answer to the OP If I have to get read I would prefer it to be a GG. That being said I don't go looking to make it happen just for the experience. In terms of ranking who I would like to be read by (if it had to happen) 1. another CD or their SO 2. A mature GG 3. a very young child. 4. A guy. and last any teen age girl. They are my biggest fear.

[Starla]

Im kinda torn on second place its either GG's or kids.
GG's usually wont make a scene but no telling what a kid would do.


In my public years, my most cringing reads came from kids. Nothing like standling in line at the mall food court, feeling good, blending in, and suddenly having some little snot-nosed urchin yank at his/her mother's hemline, point in your direction, and ask in a very "outdoors" voice, "MOMMY, MOMMY....IS THAT A MAN???" :rolleyes:

I don't know if kids are any more adept at clocking CDers than anyone else, but they are sure a lot more skilled at making the read obvious to anyone within about 500 yards....

[Tasha McIntyre]

As long as I look good.... I don't care if they or anyone else reads me... I assume everyone knows I crossdress then there are no surprises. ... At least on my end! Lol.
:yt: Exactly my thoughts too.


Tasha, I've had that same thought. Thanks for your humorous post about causing a riot. I laughed out loud.

Amanda, having a day out without making the evening news is a victory. The riot scene got me thinking ..... imagine the spanish running of the bulls, except it's in the mall where the shoppers are being chased by the crossdressers. Now that would be funny :)

I think I am a lot more aware of people and surroundings when I am out cross dressed, probably actively looking for reactions (or danger). On three occasions I have been kinda stalked (followed) around the mall by young men who eventually blurted out a "wish I had your courage" - or similar.

Tash :)

[Juliemckay]

I really don't care about being read... As long as I'm accepted.

[tamarav]

A very interesting question.

I think that in the beginning I wanted to be read by GGs in the hope that they would accept my desire to look and act like them, not as a put down.

Today I don't really care who does or doesn't read me since I work dressed and come in contact with people who simply accept me as another woman. Whenever someone looks sorta funny at me, and it happens now and then, I just tilt my head, smile and get on with it.

If you go out looking for acceptance, then your motives are different than mine.

[Michelle James]

Today I don't really care who does or doesn't read me since I work dressed and come in contact with people who simply accept me as another woman. Whenever someone looks sorta funny at me, and it happens now and then, I just tilt my head, smile and get on with it.

If you go out looking for acceptance, then your motives are different than mine.

Except for the fact that I am not yet working dressed this is exactly the way I feel about it.

[Jonianne]

Amanda, Yes, I very much want to be read (ie. known by) and accepted by females.

That is a primary essence of my crossdressing. I'm not into that much feminine stuff and there are not a lot of womens cloths I really feel comfortable wearing (in the long term). Often, I feel more like a chameleon, when around women.

I have no desire to fool other women into thinking I am a woman, I just want to be a male who loves to identify "with" females, but not "as" one.

As far as unaccepting females and males, I just hope they don't pay enough attention to notice.

[PretzelGirl]

I don't think I have ever **wanted** to be read. It would be nice to just have it out of my mind. As it is, it comes and goes from my mind. But I do **expect** to be read. And while that prepares me for any reactions I might see, on a bad day it might stick in my mind the wrong way. Such is life.

[KarenS]

I have been read several times walking down the street in the evening. The only time anyones actually says anything seems to be with younger males - in the 16 - 25 year range. I have been to a club several times where there are many "straight" men and women present that all seem to know and accept.

The first time I was in the club, the woman that was bartending came around teh bar and gave me and a gurl I was with a big hug before we left. But, still didn't say anything. She also offered to take a picture for us.

[Annaliese2010]

I was asked if I was a GG woman very recently! Too bad it was the guy-side of a CD'er asking. No disrespect to him but if it had been a real M2F transgirl or trans lezzie (or a GG) instead it would've meant something. I'd love to be read by a lezzie GG & have her be attracted to me. Or... any GG who found me attractive would be cool! As for men - yech, no thanks! Well... except...and this just occurred to me...except Possibly for a F2M transgendered guy. God...I have to examine that now. I dont like men...so why would that be an exception? IDK... Oh christ here we go, one more complication to sort through! Lol...

[Cheryl James]

This thread has given me reason to think. I have always thought that I wanted to be read by GG's in hopes of receiving open or tacit acceptance from them. I would rather be ignored by men. As I consider it more, though, I guess what I really want is to just be left alone. Inasmuch as I am not hurting anyone by my public outings, I would rather just be able to go about my business with as little fanfare as possible.. With that being said, I would enjoy having a GG buddy.

[Chickhe]

I think the desire to pass is there, but I don't like to trick anyone so, that is where the wanting her to know I am male would come in. I have been in the situation a couple times when the girl says to me, 'you are a male arn't you?' and I just admit it with a smile and it usually works out okay because they generally don't run away. Actually, on the contrary most woman think it is pretty cool, so from that angle maybe being known is an advantage.

[sherri]

When I am in accepting surroundings or situations, I don't mind at all being read by any gender, in fact I rather prefer it that way. After all, it would be rather pointless to stress out over something I really can't prevent anyway. But when I venture out into the mainstream, knowing that the majority of people around me either don't approve or harbor a bunch of misconceptions, it sure would be nice to go my way without detection, to just blend in. But like I said, that isn't the reality, so I might as well find an intellectual and emotional way to deal with it.

[Annie D]

I think that girls like to share a secret among themselves and as a wannabe woman I don't mind if a woman gives me that knowing look or smile in recognition of who and how I am trying to present myself. Most women will keep there glance to a minimum, may make eye contact and give that knowing smile. I appreciate their look because I think that are accepting the way that I am trying to present myself. I think that many appreciate my sincere attempt to present myself in a lady-like way and not dress in a degrading manner to women in general. When I shop, I try to present myself as every other women in the same venue are presenting themselves. When I am out partying, I can dress differently because I am out to have a good time. Do I mind if a woman "makes me"? In a word, NO, because a woman's eye is more discerning and detail oriented and I think that is what sets CD's and women apart from men.

[Rianna Humble]

I guess I'm coming at this from a different angle. WHen I go out, I am not trying to emulate a woman, because I am a woman just one with a birth defect (a male body). For this reason I do no actively desire to "be read", but I do want acceptance.

I'm not quite yet at Tamara's stage of not caring who reads me, but I'm getting there slowly. Luckily for me, so many people know who I am and have expressed their support that the occasional knock-back is easier to take. Like Tamara, if someone scowls at me, I usually smile back.

[Sophie86]

Ill take that back most pets really dont care how you are dressed

I dunno... sometimes the way our beagle stares, I'd swear she's judging me.

I really expect to be read, so I guess I don't worry about it too much--not in the places I've gone so far.

[Avana]

im not really interested in 'fitting in'. then again i am kind of an iconoclast in all aspects of my life. for me as long as i feel hot, and GGs see and appreciate my hotness and confidence, that's what makes me feel good. I would rather someone notice that I am a rampant crossdresser and be like 'damn girl, you have guts for coming here like this and doing your thing' than to simply float around invisibly 'passing' by.

[Steph.TS]

I would love it if women knew I was a MTF transsexual, but only if they accepted me, but I'm not out yet, the best I do is wear women's jeans and clear nail polish, I bet some women have noticed and just haven't mentioned it...

[Amanda22]

im not really interested in 'fitting in'. then again i am kind of an iconoclast in all aspects of my life. for me as long as i feel hot, and GGs see and appreciate my hotness and confidence, that's what makes me feel good. I would rather someone notice that I am a rampant crossdresser and be like 'damn girl, you have guts for coming here like this and doing your thing' than to simply float around invisibly 'passing' by.

That's what I'm talking about! I'm a little different than most. I gather most crossdressers want to be invisible. I find it exciting to be known as a crossdresser. I know a lot of people will probably respond with "is getting beat up or harassed exciting?" I'm careful with the situations I place myself in. It's a liberating thing to just dress how I want to dress and not worry about passing. It's pointless to try to control others' perceptions. I do my best, mind you, to appear as I want to in my mind. But my self-confidence and self-esteem aren't dependent on others opinion of me.

[Lexine]

I sometimes go out as a genderf*ck androgyne (boy's clothes, women's makeup) and switch my voice back and forth from boy and girl just to see people's reactions. Otherwise, when I'm purely a boy or a girl I don't really try to go out of my gender role that I wish to represent.

[Amanda22]

I sometimes go out as a genderf*ck androgyne (boy's clothes, women's makeup) and switch my voice back and forth from boy and girl just to see people's reactions.

I love it. Thanks for replying!