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SuzanneBender
01-08-2011, 09:40 AM
I have to give Minalost credit for this thread. Her post in my other thread asked this question and I thought I would put it up to the group for a vote and or comment. This discussion is overly stereotypical and most of us are living proof that stereotypes when it comes to gender don't really apply. However, indulge me this one itsy bitsy stereotype.

They say that men think about sex on average of once every 8 to 12 seconds. I know I certainly don't fall into that category. Even in the height of puberty I don't think I thought about sex that much, but "they" say its so. Therefore, we will pretend it is accurate for the sake of this discussion.

My last thread was about how often I think of all things femme. My mind seems to constantly wander to what I consider stereotypical femme things. For example I go to the PX and stand in front of the magazine rack. Do I look at the cover of Car and Driver, Men's health or better yet Playboy. Nope. I look at the covers of Vogue, Glamor or In Style. A nice looking woman walks by. Do I check her "dimensions out". Nope. I look at what she is wearing, how her eyeshadow is done and what hair style she is wearing. My mind focuses on things I consider feminine thoughts certainly not sex.

This question is for the transgender gals in the crowd. Heck transmen weigh in too. Your answers and comments could be interesting. Which do you think more about sex or feminine things? :daydreaming:

StaceyJane
01-08-2011, 09:47 AM
I have to go with feminine.
I look at what the GG's are wearing to get ideas for outfits.
I will sneak a peek in Cosmopolitan.
I check out how makeup is being worn.

But mostly I think about how much I just want to be a regular girl.

janelle
01-08-2011, 09:51 AM
Femme things for as long as I can remember. My now "X" use to get mad at me cause I would say something about earrings, or a dress or shoes that someone was wearing. She did ask why & i said I love to see all the beautiful things. Her answer, well then look at the girl so I can hit you than. She always said that in fun. Many a times I became jealous of the things I saw & wondered if I ever would be able to let the real me out & now I have. Hope this answers your question & is helpful.

HUGS

TGMarla
01-08-2011, 09:53 AM
Of course I think about femme things. But I also think about sex. The two tend to trigger each other in me.

msniki48
01-08-2011, 09:59 AM
Suzanne,

I guess for me, since i had no idea what transgender was growing up....i spent my life hiding my softer side and need to dress....i knew i wanted to be around the girls all the time, but i thought it was for the sex.:devil: yet i was not, what you would call a player, as i could never be with a woman for just sex :brolleyes:....there had to be a connection... i was always going steady for long periods of time with the women i felt attracted to. :) After my diagnosis, i realized why i was comfortable with the girls, and i allowed my thoughts to migrate to girl things of interest as you have.:battingeyelashes: I still , however, find myself having to pump up when the guys are around a bit...[fear of being found out]:eek: just my normal reflex action i guess

i'll get it right sonner or later:doh:

hugs....great to see you back girl

msniki48

docrobbysherry
01-08-2011, 09:59 AM
Not sure u can separate the two, Suzanne! Or at least, I can't!

When I see a striking woman, either in pictures or when I'm out, I have ALWAYS felt a certain excitement! Even before I began dressing!
The ONLY difference now is; I try to study what it is about her look that grabbed my attention! In case I wish to copy it! Lol!

NicoleScott
01-08-2011, 10:01 AM
I stand at the magazine rack pretending to be looking at car and guns, but I'm really looking at beautiful women on Vogue, Glamor, and other magazine covers.
Recently, my wife and I were at Walmart, and turned to walk down the sporting goods aisle. There was a most gorgeous and shapely young woman, in stylish and classy dress, with beautiful very high heels. My wife know I cd and is OK with it, but I thought it best to pretend not to notice her. I would have liked to gawk, but thought it best not to. I always notice clothes and shoes, hair styles, and makeup on women I see in public. Since for me there is a connection between crossdressing and sexual excitement, any observations like those mentioned have a sexual component. As a matter of fact, as I type this, I am watching a cooking show about Mexican dishes on the Food Channel. I don't know her name, but she is sooo pretty. I can't tell you what she is cooking. ha ha

SuzanneBender
01-08-2011, 10:24 AM
But mostly I think about how much I just want to be a regular girl.:D


Many a times I became jealous of the things I saw & wondered if I ever would be able to let the reale out & now I have. I used to feel that way. No I feel sorry for them. We get to experience some of what they get to and we also get to experience so much more. Kinda like the difference between Neapolitan Ice Cream and just plain Vanilla.


I still , however, find myself having to pump up when the guys are around a bit...[fear of being found out]:eek: just my normal reflex action i guess Ahhhhh the pumpicous upicous survival reaction of the transgender of the species. We are all guilty of this.


When I see a striking woman, either in pictures or when I'm out, I have ALWAYS felt a certain excitement!
The ONLY difference now is; I try to study what it is about her look that grabbed my attention! In case I wish to copy it! Lol!Sherry you are always so astute in your observations. You are right. If there were not some sort of sexual component involved we wouldn't want to imitate the woman. I think. However, I just find myself thinking she is pretty or she is cute because of X. I just don't find myself looking at her in a sexual way anymore. However, there is one major exception and one significant reason. I am married to the ultimate striking woman. Her looks always grab my heart and cause reactions that well would make me blush if I wrote anymore about it. :battingeyelashes:

sandra-leigh
01-08-2011, 12:00 PM
I'm a techie. Every 8 to 12 seconds, I think about Linux. :D

When I was a teen, there was a period when my sister got Cosmo. I would skim through it; it amused me about the same way that National Enquirer did. Even now I find I have no use for it, or for the fashion magazines or fashion TV shows, or Oprah, or Women's Television Network.

The magazines I look at tend to be investigative analysis of current affairs, or science magazines. The rare rare rare times that I buy a sports magazine are when I'm researching a planned purchase (e.g., new bicycle.) I have no use for car magazines or magazines about team sports or hunting magazines. Or, for that matter, for Martha Stewart (TM) magazines.

renee k
01-08-2011, 12:35 PM
I have to give Minalost credit for this thread. Her post in my other thread asked this question and I thought I would put it up to the group for a vote and or comment. This discussion is overly stereotypical and most of us are living proof that stereotypes when it comes to gender don't really apply. However, indulge me this one itsy bitsy stereotype.

They say that men think about sex on average of once every 8 to 12 seconds. I know I certainly don't fall into that category. Even in the height of puberty I don't think I thought about sex that much, but "they" say its so. Therefore, we will pretend it is accurate for the sake of this discussion.

My last thread was about how often I think of all things femme. My mind seems to constantly wander to what I consider stereotypical femme things. For example I go to the PX and stand in front of the magazine rack. Do I look at the cover of Car and Driver, Men's health or better yet Playboy. Nope. I look at the covers of Vogue, Glamor or In Style. A nice looking woman walks by. Do I check her "dimensions out". Nope. I look at what she is wearing, how her eyeshadow is done and what hair style she is wearing. My mind focuses on things I consider feminine thoughts certainly not sex.

This question is for the transgender gals in the crowd. Heck transmen weigh in too. Your answers and comments could be interesting. Which do you think more about sex or feminine things? :daydreaming:

For me it's the feminine things. Like everyone else here, it's the clothes, the hair, the makeup and THE SHOES!!! And how I would like to be in her shoes!

Renee

Sarah Doepner
01-08-2011, 01:33 PM
There may have been a time in my far-distant youth where I thought about sex or something sex related every 8 - 12 seconds, but it didn't last very long. Maybe for a while in High School and that was the end of it. This doest make me wonder who was making up for my slacker attitude there, but that's a different story.

I don't know if the averages work for me because I'll go all day focused on what I'm doing and not think about either sex or girl stuff. However these days it's more likely that when I start to think about girl stuff, I'll stay there for quite a while. The question then would be more along the lines of; When you are involved in crossdressing how often do you think of guy stuff?

Connie D50
01-08-2011, 01:58 PM
By far femme things

Marissa
01-08-2011, 02:07 PM
Oh..ok..I'll bite (literally :D ) I do look at more of the women's magazines while waiting in line.. and I was happy when my daughter was receiving the In Style magazine in the mail. And even though I don't think about sex every few seconds..oh..heck..who am I kidding.. I do..just not sure if I'm still thinking of the 'right' type of sex, since it has been soooooo long.. :heehee:

I do what a lot of us girls do.. size up the pretty woman.. so that is 10 seconds with my guy mind..and 1 minute with my girl mind :D

Jodygurl
01-08-2011, 02:09 PM
I hadn't given it much thought until the post from Minalost the other day. I started noticing that I do gravitate toward the feminine even while working in the shop; i.e. "can't waite to get outta these d**n jeans and into some yoga pants, and high heel sandles" or "I think it's time for a bubble bath and hair conditioning treatment", etc. Seldom give much thought to sexual gratification any more.

When I'm out I do find myself trying to remember to practice my "walk" and a few other feminine gestures I'm working on. When I do confront a lovely woman, however, I not only notice her physically but also her style, looking for something I like. When I find it my fantasies quickly enclude some form of intimacy.

Frankly I think that if things had turned out differently I may have been what's referred to as a lipstick lesbian!

Zenith
01-08-2011, 02:21 PM
I look at clothes and accessories. I read Glamor. I think about dating and relationships and kids. But mostly post-transition I think about the business of getting on with my life...meaningful work, helping others, being happy, (paying bills!)...things like that...

suchacutie
01-08-2011, 02:32 PM
It's like this. I'm very happily married....very happily....you see my point? So If I let my mind wander to the normality of the outcome of that happy marriage, I'd get nothing else done...nothing!

Understanding Tina is important to me, and one of the necessities of being Tina is to study all things feminine. I can do that without losing the rest of my life however, so it's easy to spend more time observing femininity while not completely losing the thread of life! I can stand in line and look at the cover of Vogue, or even buy it, and then just go back to the other aspects of life.

What a wonderful life :)

tina

VeronicaMoonlit
01-08-2011, 02:40 PM
I'm a techie. Every 8 to 12 seconds, I think about Linux. :D

As a matter of fact I WAS thinking about Linux. But I run Linux so it's hard to not think about Linux.


When I was a teen, there was a period when my sister got Cosmo. I would skim through it; it amused me about the same way that National Enquirer did. Even now I find I have no use for it, or for the fashion magazines or fashion TV shows, or Oprah, or Women's Television Network.

I liked Cosmo...back when HGB was still running it...now it sucks, and I'm not the target readership at my age these days. I prefer Marie Claire and Allure.

Veronica

Lorileah
01-08-2011, 02:43 PM
I stopped thinking and now I can't remember what I was thinking.... dam

I know that recently I was thinking that maybe some people get dressed in the dark, with their eyes closed.

sissystephanie
01-08-2011, 03:02 PM
Well, lets see! To answer Lorileah first, I have, in times past, gotten dressed in the dark but with my eyes open!! As far as the other things are concerned, at my advanced age and the fact that I am a widower sex is virtually a forgotten thing. But I do certainly look at women. I told my late wife years ago that when I stopped looking at women to just close the coffin lid because I was really dead!! That still holds true! Yes, I am a crossdresser and love to wear feminine clothing, but I also like to see it on a real woman! Especially one that is well built and attractive!! Not dead yet!!

Loni
01-08-2011, 03:29 PM
the side of my eye is caught by a pretty girl, but i find myself looking at what she is wearing not so much as how she looks.

i find a girl i want to get into her jeans..but i will give them back.


Loni

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sorry karren, just jeans fits the line better than skirt.

Claire Cook
01-08-2011, 03:45 PM
Definitely feminine things -- when I'm checking a GG out, it's only to admire what she is wearing (and if I like it, I might tell her so). Especially now that my ears are pierced -- I'm on the prowl for earrings! Yeah, I check out women's mags on the rack too (and in the doctor's office) ... but who says girls don't like Car and Driver or read Playboy? Oh .. I draw the line at Playgirl!!!

Sharon B.
01-08-2011, 04:35 PM
I am going to say Feminine things for myself.
Yes, I have brought several woman's magazines to read and look at makeup reviews.
If I see a good looking woman, I will look to see what she is wearing and how she coordinates her outfit.
I would want to be her more than I would want to do her.
I prefer to use scented body wash, scented body lotion and/or perfume over male scented items.
I also keep nail polish on my toenails even when I am in guy mode and I also keep my body hair free 365 days a year.

Stephanie Anne
01-08-2011, 04:52 PM
Well since I take about an hour to get ready in the morning and I am always wondering what to wear after that and since I have no boyfriend, I would have to say sex.

MargaretJ
01-08-2011, 05:49 PM
Oh femme stuff, especially shoes. I always check out the fashion mag covers when in the newsagents.

Avana
01-08-2011, 06:02 PM
i think about my relationship, my dreams and work, music and mysticism, traveling, and yes, i tend to look at myself in the mirror quite a bit and consider my body a laboratory where I can experiment with gender and fashion, and that occupies a good bit of my time.

I don't buy that feminine means thinking about shoes and magazines. I'm certainly not attracted to women who always/only think about shoes and magazines...

Kelly Greene
01-08-2011, 06:26 PM
I am a hopeless letch I check out every woman I see especially if she is wearing a dress/skirt and heels, but what do I think when I see these wonderful sights? Where did she get those shoes and do they come in my size , will that outfit look good on me ,or should I get my ears pierced?

I think about feminine things way more than I think about sex.

BRANDYJ
01-08-2011, 06:36 PM
I would have to say for me it's about equal. When I see an attractive woman, I will think about her sexually and at the same time I'm checking out what it is about her manor of dress, hair and makeup that made her attractive to me and caught my eye. On a non-sexual point, I think an attractive woman is God's greatest gift to man. I love their shape, their motion, their smile and endless other attributes that all add up to my admiration of her. So even though sexual thoughts abut may or may not enter my mind, I just love looking at women. As my SO has said to me, " I don't care how much you look and charge your batteries, so long as you come home to discharge them."

Like others, I look at the covers of women's magazines instead of sports or Car And Driver. And it's a mix of both sexual and non-sexual thoughts when I view those models gracing the cover.

Karinsamatha
01-08-2011, 07:02 PM
I almost always think about clothes, shoes first. When I look at a woman I almost always look at the clothes and shoes, and of course how she has applied her make up the woman is wearing before I look at the woman her self.

Theresa1955
01-08-2011, 07:20 PM
Hmmm. Good question and thread. Since I enjoy "Men type activities" and also enjoy being around and with women, but also enjoy the softer side of life. It is hard to pin this down. The answer is a toss up. I think it all depends on the mood I am in. When I see an attractive women, I first look at her sexually,(what a male pig I am :)) but then I turn my attention to what she is wearing, her mannerisms, and her behavior. It is then that I am totally focused and in the pink fog.

Fab Karen
01-08-2011, 07:47 PM
I stopped thinking and now I can't remember what I was thinking.... dam

I know that recently I was thinking that maybe some people get dressed in the dark, with their eyes closed.

Yeah, some of them are newbie CD's :D

Babette
01-08-2011, 07:51 PM
....They say that men think about sex on average of once every 8 to 12 seconds. I know I certainly don't fall into that category. Even in the height of puberty I don't think I thought about sex that much, but "they" say its so. Therefore, we will pretend it is accurate for the sake of this discussion...



I have to chuckle and shake my head when I hear so many people other than Suzanne use either this quote or something like it. What I want to know is who conducted this landmark study that determined how often men were thinking of sex. How did they know they were even thinking about it? I couldn't begin to ask someone every 8 to 12 seconds if they were thinking about sex in the first place let alone tabulate the results. If this is the average, could it be interpreted that some men think about it at a much faster or slower rate as well? Maybe there are some really quick witted, super men who can knock out a 5 second average.:eek: Whew, I must be really below average because in 8-12 seconds, I couldn't decide which color socks to wear.

Alas Suzanne, your final question is fair enough. I think more about feminine things and so many others instead of sex. I can decide which color pumps to wear in 4.5 seconds flat. :tongueout

Babette

Angiemead12
01-08-2011, 07:57 PM
I dont think about sex every 8-12 seconds.

My girlfirend probably thinks of sex more than I do.

When Im at the magazine rack I know I can pick up the vouge for my girlfriend and go through it too. And when I spot a hot woman I do check what her look is and if i can pull it off as well.

But most of the time my mind is wandering on how I can make some more money!

PretzelGirl
01-08-2011, 10:25 PM
I'm sorry..... what is sex again?

Miranda09
01-08-2011, 11:33 PM
I don't think about sex THAT often, but when I see an attractive woman go by, I do take a look at the woman, not the fashion....that comes afterward!! :)

sandra-leigh
01-08-2011, 11:44 PM
I'm sorry..... what is sex again?

Something that I now categorize with "Science Fiction & Fantasy". Sure I read about it, but the chances of any of it happening to me...

Kathi Lake
01-09-2011, 12:57 AM
I agree with Sue. I'm married. What's this "sex" thing you speak of? :)

With me, it's a combination of both. Today in the booth, the presenter showed me three necklace/earring combos, asking which one she should wear (yes, she knows all about me :)). As she tried each set on, I looked at her and many things were running through my mind; which necklace/earring set worked the best with her outfit, the amazing curves she displayed in her décolletage (and everywhere else!), how cute her top was, whether I could pull off that look, how well she did her makeup, jealousy that she got to be a gorgeous woman and I didn't, the fact that that Breakfast Jack wasn't sitting too well with me, whether she could tell that I was wearing light eye makeup, and much more.

Did I think about sex - especially the fabled "every 8-10 seconds?" Nope. I don't think about it quite as much as I used to.

:)

Kathi

Cari
01-09-2011, 01:19 AM
I think its about 50% for me; when I look at the magazine rack it could be cosmo or a car mag depends whats on the cover: usually the brightest one wins :-) I stare at shiny things as well.

What I cant explain is that I look at women differently based on if I know and like them.
If I know and like them I dont really notice what they are wearing and while its not every 8 to 12 seconds Id say my thought patterns are more male.
However the best looking woman in the world could walk by; and Ill check out her outfit and makeup first. I notice that she is attractive but dont think of sex right away.

As far as me getting turned on; looks are important ; but it takes more which may be a feminine trait.

Of course they have no idea Im checking out the outfit, and probably believe Im thinking about sex every 8-12 seconds.
I often wonder if Im sending the wrong message when I look.

Persephone
01-09-2011, 02:07 AM
Today I was sitting in a waiting room and watching a well-built woman who was talking on her cell phone and pacing back and forth. She was wearing high-heeled boots and skin-tight exercise pants and her rear end moved like a sack full of bobcats. It's funny, but all I could think about was how the Hell to move like that.

I have noticed one thing though regarding critical analysis. It would seem that many CD's most often look at a woman and see the positives that they would like to copy. Many GG's will tend to do this too, but often will also be far better at spotting negatives.

So sometimes the conversation can go like this:

CD, "I love the way she does her eyes!"

GG, "Yeah, but her lips are too big."

It may be a focus that comes from years of analyzing the competition.

eluuzion
01-09-2011, 07:46 AM
When I began to CD over 20 years ago, I would say my thoughts were probably 95% sexual and 5% "feminine observation/appearance improvement.

As most here seem to report, the years do tend to mellow the sexual component and enhance the quest for understanding, acceptance and interest in the cognitive and personal interaction aspects of daily living as a CD. I have always been a sponge for research in behavioral aspects of every issue. It is probably more like a 195% sexual interest and 35% 'feminine cognitive interest' now. :shades:

Ok, and BTW...I have always had a difficult time with percentages and math...:)

I have an overzealous curiosity, as well as an overactive sex drive. I have learned to live with it, and accept that as part of me, just like my CD, :battingeyelashes: I am confident that the strong sex inclinations will mellow out in time, as everyone says it will... I am going to give it another 30-40 years before I begin to worry about anything...heehee:

Until then, I will remain hopeful of finding that one understanding SO someday, my perfect match, that will accept me for what I am... a well-adjusted, psychologically functional, caring and compassionate....CDing sex fanatic ! :heehee: I am sure there is one out there in a mental health facility somewhere... :D

:love:

lauraabdl
01-09-2011, 07:58 AM
The femine things first and formost.

Can't remember when I didn't. I always check out the makeup and clothes first.

Raychel
01-09-2011, 09:15 AM
I agree with Sue. I'm married. What's this "sex" thing you speak of? :)
Kathi

:yt:

But honestly when I see a woman, What do I think first?

Well the first thing I think is how bad I am going to trip over my tongue when I open my mouth. Then I look at the whole package. From her hair to her shoes. Check out her body and clothes on the way. Then if she has nice clothes, I just wish I could dress like her.

Madilyn A.
01-09-2011, 10:41 AM
Definitely feminine things. Thirty years ago or so, sex might have entered my mind about 25% and feminine details 75%. Now sex, what's that ? Married 38 years and for me the annual "married sex half-life" thing kicked in. You do remember the half-life thing don't you ?, wherein a radioactive particle will lose half it's strength in a thousand years. Well for me it was an annual thing, so there are only trace amounts left and the US government has determined that trace amounts are acceptable for good health !! Sorry for that ramble. LOL ! Anyway, I spend way too much time at the magazine rack in front of the glamour magazines, but usually pick up the Cosmo and move it over in front of the golf magazines, just in case someone is paying too much attention to my choice of "reading materials ".

Jenn M
01-09-2011, 11:47 AM
I always think about femme thing! Also when I see a women who looks good I always check out her outfit and makeup and think about how I would look wearing the same thing!

Brianne_bc
01-09-2011, 12:39 PM
Of course I think about femme things. But I also think about sex. The two tend to trigger each other in me.

Me too. A lot........ thanx for your honesty

Rogina B
01-09-2011, 12:45 PM
I am glad that I had a great deal of sexual adventures while it was important to me.Now,I am far more interested in a woman's look than anything else she has to offer..Like many of us,I get so jealous and catty at times..lol

anonymousinmaryland
01-09-2011, 01:01 PM
I still am thinking, "Wow! Whoever gettin' all of that sure is a lucky guy/girl. Wish I could dress like that!"

ikthys
01-09-2011, 02:01 PM
I sometimes surprise myself with how often and how "out of the blue" my mind will wander into a full blown femme fantasy. But, for me, I believe this to be the outcome of so much sexual conditioning and input over the years. So, even though I don't find myself imagining intercourse, or a naked woman (though I do thoroughly enjoy it when it happens at home) I think femme is actually a reflection of how much my mind drifts to sex. When I see a woman, I am definitely staring at her shoes and her outfit- her overal "look"- but I think this is because I've told myself these are "safe" in the sense that I'm not "lusting" after her body in a way I always found repulsive when I saw other men do it. If I'm brutally honest, though, I believe that same urge for sex is very prevalent in me, only it "hides" behind my desire for her "beauty", her "power", her "attractiveness". Perhaps I really just want her to come and affirm me and touch me...I want something deeper even than sex- a sense of being desired, respected, wanted... all of which seems totally displaced and warped into a cding-covered-sex drive.

Mackenzie
01-09-2011, 03:17 PM
Suzanne,
I am much like you. When I am looking at a woman, it's not with lust or something (I think I'm the happiest married man in the world!!!). When I look at a woman, I like to check out how she is coordinating her clothing, how she wears makeup, her jewelry, her shoes, does she have on nylons, textured tights, etc. I watch how she carries herself and gestures.

My wife is so feminine, such a wonder to watch, such "eye candy" for me!!! I love to study my wife, look at her deeply, watch her put on her makeup, watch her walk and gesture, see her facial expressions as she talks. She is one incredible woman! She is really the woman that I love to study.

Oh, regarding magazines, I have found myself looking at the covers of the girls magazines. I really don't care about the car or hunting or news magazines.

Mackenzie

SuzanneBender
01-09-2011, 03:53 PM
post-transition I think about the business of getting on with my life...meaningful work, helping others, being happy, (paying bills!)...things like that... Dear you are the epitome of a woman. You think about life as a woman and what a wonderful one you have become!

I know that recently I was thinking that maybe some people get dressed in the dark, with their eyes closed. Wow that must have been a bad outfit to make you think that! If I must dress in the dark I keep my eyes open. At least I think, but maybe they are closed because when I check in the mirror its still dark.

I don't buy that feminine means thinking about shoes and magazines..Alana that is the reason why I place the sterotype disclaimer in the OP. I also don't by that it is a sole definition of feminine. I know lots of guys that read Cosmo. Gender is what we make of it and it means different things to different people.

How did they know they were even thinking about it? I couldn't begin to ask someone every 8 to 12 seconds if they were thinking about sex in the first place let alone tabulate the results. Ohh dear Babette this was a highly scientific study conducted at the Klingenhoffermyerson Institute in Lower Nantuket in the early 70's. The methodology was simple they hired young college students to follow the subjects around and ask them every 8 seconds and ask them if they were thinking about sex. They study concluded early because those doing the questioning were inexplicably beat up by the subjects.


As she tried each set on, I looked at her and many things were running through my mind; which necklace/earring set worked the best with her outfit... jealousy that she got to be a gorgeous woman and I didn't, the fact that that Breakfast Jack wasn't sitting too well with me Ah Ha. We now arrive at the basic quandary of life. We can be jealous of that beautiful woman in the booth, but did she get to have a Breakfast Jack this morning on the way to the show. In all likelihood, no. She likely had a rice cake and a slim fast.

I am just the opposite on the married and sex thing. I have a fantastic wife that just happens to also be gorgeous. I must admit she still gets the old oil pressure up in my motor if you know what I mean. Wink Wink Nudge Nudge. When I am around her I think about sex a lot. In fact, I must have thought about it three times in the short time it took me to type this paragraph. Oppssss there it goes again. Does anyone have the number to the Klingenhoffermyerson Institute?


I have noticed one thing though regarding critical analysis. It would seem that many CD's most often look at a woman and see the positives that they would like to copy. Many GG's will tend to do this too, but often will also be far better at spotting negatives. Great observation dear. I wonder if the understudy role goes away for those of us that transition and we move more toward the competitive mode? I may make this my next thread!

juno
01-09-2011, 04:03 PM
I love to grab a women's magazine when other men are around. When I see a woman, I used to subconsciously hone in on the sexually pleasing parts before my conscious mind had a chance to kick in. I think I would look at both aspects of a women, if I were still single. As a married man, I think it is disrespectful to be erotically stimulated by women other than your wife, so I focus on thinking about the clothing and makeup.

zoe m
01-09-2011, 04:24 PM
i think about my relationship, my dreams and work, music and mysticism, traveling, and yes, i tend to look at myself in the mirror quite a bit and consider my body a laboratory where I can experiment with gender and fashion, and that occupies a good bit of my time.

I don't buy that feminine means thinking about shoes and magazines. I'm certainly not attracted to women who always/only think about shoes and magazines...

Yeah, same here, I don't think I hang out much with women who think a lot about shoes and magazines. On the other hand, these days I do find myself looking at and thinking about things like makeup technique, because I want to become better at it, but it's more of a means of an end, the end being to be a successful CD :) i think insofar as women are (often) expected to put more efforts into how they look, these are "feminine" thoughts and since we also have to put even more effort into our look, these are also CD thoughts...

Babette
01-09-2011, 04:57 PM
Ohh dear Babette this was a highly scientific study conducted at the Klingenhoffermyerson Institute in Lower Nantuket in the early 70's. The methodology was simple they hired young college students to follow the subjects around and ask them every 8 seconds and ask them if they were thinking about sex. They study concluded early because those doing the questioning were inexplicably beat up by the subjects.



Just as I suspected. This is another case of torturing the data (or subjects) until it submits to the desired results. I think I published a few studies using this methodology back in the 80's. Ooops!

Babette

kimdl93
01-10-2011, 10:56 AM
more about feminine things, less about sex or guy stuff

aggi123
01-10-2011, 11:28 AM
I've thought this VERY thing before. That the average person thinks about sex that much during the day. Well when i'm in the pink fog, i definitely think about all things femme WAY more =P

Virgin1A
01-11-2011, 09:34 AM
One of the things that I love about being a crossdresser is that I think that I can appreciate the whole woman. I check out her hair, her dress, her jewellry etc. Then I check out her legs and her bum (I've been very big on women's bottoms since I first saw Suzie Quattro in her leather pants in my teens)

minalost
01-11-2011, 01:34 PM
[QUOTE=SuzanneBender;2373860]I have to give Minalost credit for this thread. QUOTE]

Wow! Someone actually reads my posts :D?! Cool :battingeyelashes:!

As my other post states: I think about fem things far more than sex. When I see a gook looking woman I'm always checking out her clothing and make-up to see how it's done and what I could copy.
:hugs:

Laura Evans
01-11-2011, 06:40 PM
Mostly think about what to wear, what looks good on other women that might look good on me as well, their makeup. Like wise when at a magazine rack or waiting for an appointment I spend time in the womans interest area. My thoughts are of being a woman and relating to other women and spending time with my GF. I also think about what needs to be done that day. Do I think of sex, hell yes, but I don't spend my day there and it is not certainly every 8-10 seconds.

Lorileah
01-11-2011, 08:04 PM
Suzanne, I was just thinking....aw, man, it just went out of my mind. Oh look shoes!

Teri Ray
01-22-2011, 04:42 PM
I think of being female