Interesting thing happened at the store

[Amy Rose]

I was at a local store here, there was a sale of panties and I was in full male mode but my female instincts kicked in :heehee: I was looking around for some nice ones and found quiet a few and without realising I was holding 3 or 4 in my hands. Then a lady walked straight past me, middle aged wearing a oversized top and baggy jeans. I could tell she wasn't in touch with her feminine side. She paused and looked at me with disgust, and groaned very loudly. She said 'ha some men are ridiculous, sh*t there's a reason they are for women'. I have no idea what she means :eek:
but people like her are why crossdressers these days cannot be accepted as apart of society. It got me thinking about why our society is just so unaccepting of people being different instead of embracing it.

[loserjaxxy]

You could've said you were shopping for you Valentine :P

[JohnH]

You should have spoke up and said. "Lady, what's your problem?"

[Suzette Muguet de Mai]

Maybe a lil catty like, arh these aren't Nana panties.

[James Kaon]

Im new but I have to respond to this - I would have been coward and said its not for me.... i have bought 3 times from high street shops and I have implied its for the girlfriend (im single so thats a lie) but I do feel angry that feel I have to do that. Despite a very few famous people being openly trans/cd our society is is very much closed to guys wearing fem stuff...

In answer to your question, about why people are so un-accepting, its basically because there are not enough famous people who do it, (at least openly) Maybe i will make a film about it one day - i work in the industry, just need a lil more time b4 i can become influential enough to get hollywood studio backing... ONE DAY!!!!

J

[Lexi X]

Imagine the things we could accomplish in this world if we all worked well together... Kinda sad really that we don't.

[t-girlxsophie]

There must be a "reason" for her,damned if I know what it is,wasnt she ever told If you cant say anything nice,Don't say anything at all

[Janine cd]

I've had no problems buying femme apparel but I must relate one incident that happened While Shopping at JC Penney for some bras. I selected my items and went to the cashier station and was met by a friendly sales person.
She ran up my selections and then said " I think that they will will look lovely on you". I thanked her and said I would be enjoying them soon.

[BillieJoEllen]

Janine, I think thats an assumption that she could possibly get in trouble for making. IMO

[kimdl93]

I'm not sure what reason she might have been alluding to. I haven't worn male undies in years!

But, one grumpy, intolerant lady doesn't constitute society. Every now and then we encounter women and even a few men who are far more open-minded and accepting. Probably not the majority and maybe not even a significant minority, but I appreciate them, each and every one!

[Stephanie47]

Maybe, she meant there is no 'pocket' for your 'junk.' Sounds like you went to Wal-Mart. Maybe you should have asked her if her girlfriend buys sexy undergarments for her! Riot in aisle five!

[Lorileah]

"I know honey, you are so right men are just ridiculous aren't they? Give me five sister! That is exactly why I have started my change...what do you think so far? Working out well don't you think? You should have seen me before..."

Somehow I think she would have been gone faster than you could see.

OR my more likely response..."who died and made you head ogre?"

[JulieC]

She said 'ha some men are ridiculous, sh*t there's a reason they are for women'.

Mmm.

I might have responded, "Ha some women are ridiculous. There's a reason clothes come in SIZES"

:eek:

[Cynthia Anne]

Perhaps you should have said, well SIR YOU can wear the wear the jockstrap I prefer panties!

[Rachel05]

And how the hell did she know they were for you, I have bought underwear for my wife before now as I am sure lots of men have!!

[Lynette]

I like that

[Melinda Lou]

I've never run into anything quite that overt, occasionally a "can I help you?" from a clerk or two who thought I seemed a little confused. I did have a couple of experiences when buying panties in the girls' department, back when I could fit into such things :o : One young cashier asked me nervously if I had a daughter, then when I just as nervously said "I'm sorry?" because I didn't quite hear her (I was being polite, not annoyed), rephrased the question to, were they for my daughter? I sheepishly replied that they were, at which point we both blushed, because I think we both knew who they were for; then she tried to hide her embarrassment by trying to change the subject. Another time, I had another young salesgirl say, in a similar situation, "I guess this is the highlight of your day, isn't it?"--her assumption was that I'd been sent on an errand by my wife to buy underwear for a daughter. In both cases, I didn't get indignant, I sort of enjoyed the experience.

Don't let it bother you--you're buying a perfectly legal, normal item and it makes no difference who they're for.

Edit: One thing I do to minimize issues--I generally will only go to a female cashier to check out my purchase. They are more likely to get flustered or even flirtatious than indignant.

[Laura_Stephens]

My advice is never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.

[GingerLeigh]

Funny how brave people feel when they think you'll cower and slink away and not retort. You're not doing anything wrong, she is for being an obnoxious moron. Remember that and speak up! She has no idea why you're buying underwear. I've bought them for women many times! Anyway, I would have told her that she's just jealous that you could easily slip into them while her lard-ass wouldn't fit into a sleeping bag!

Some time ago I had some twit mutter "fa%%ot" at the checkout line at the local resale shop (I had a pretty gown in my hands). I turned and glared at him, and told him where he could fine one just like it. He was half my size, he shut his trap pretty quick. He even went into another line. Chicken s&!t turd of an excuse for a human being!

Ginger

[Melinda Lou]

I've had no problems buying femme apparel but I must relate one incident that happened While Shopping at JC Penney for some bras. I selected my items and went to the cashier station and was met by a friendly sales person.
She ran up my selections and then said " I think that they will will look lovely on you". I thanked her and said I would be enjoying them soon.

I have noticed that of all the department-store experiences I've had, JC Penney has been the best--the cashiers will often helpfully point out a special discount I might be missing or that something of the same size is on clearance.

[carhill2mn]

I think that the best thing to do with people like her is to ignore them.

[rhonda]

people are funny and some maybe speak before think , may God bless us all ps don't forget to think

[ninapuella]

I think she knew to much. I am pretty sure she is a Mistress or something looking for a prey. :thinking:

[KellyCD]

Ohhh the Irony.....

When I read ur post, in my mind "wearing a oversized top and baggy jeans" translates to "dressed like a guy". She's lucky I wasn't there, the drill Sargent in me woulda came out and ripped her a new one until she cried.

Reminds me of last christmas time when my SO and I were shopping at JCPenny and we were looking at panties when this woman noticed that a Mens restroom was within 50 feet of the Women's section....and she thought it was a GROSS INJUSTICE indeed. She felt the need to question the manager at the counter "Why on god's earth did you put a MEN'S BATHROOM so close to the Women's section? What are you now catering to perverts now? I just don't see the sense..." blah blah blah.

OHHHH MAN did I let her have it.

My opening line in my 10 minute straight monologue to her was "Excuse me?! so you're sayin I'm a pervert? maybe I'm being drug along on this shopping spree and that bathroom right there would be my only form of freedom for 5 f***ing minutes!!! Or maybe you're trying to say that every 5 year old boy is a F***ING pervert too! Even though he's just here with his mother! You should be ashamed of yourself for being so F***ING closed minded!"

Btw I want to mention that I in no way meant that I didn't want to be there with my SO, I was just screaming for the males out there that feel like that.

[lingerieLiz]

You can't fix all the Dumb Axx in the world. Ignore it or have fun with it and give a retort. While looking through a bunch of bras on sale, I've been asked by a woman if I ware them everyday. I said yes. She got so red and left. Had a cute woman tell me "that bra isn't your color". I asked her what color she thought I should ware. I've also had women tell me that they wished their husbands weren't afraid to enter the lingerie department and knew a little about lingerie.

Some people like to impose their ideas on others. You don't have to answer to them.

[CaitlynRenee]

Only had one gal ever get chitty with me about anything and it wasn't about anything at all CD/TG, etc. I just looked at her and asked her if she'd changed her panties that morning. She got red in the face and left. Oh well,

[Danielle]

Sometimes humbleness dissappears when you done no wrong to people,they teach you to be mean.I hope that we all as individuals realize that the universal law is "treat as you want to be treated"some for stupid reasons feel they on top of everyone.Whatever she meant with that comment will hunt her back cause its like that what goes around comes around simple fact.Regardless !!

[April]

Amy, one rotten apple doesn't make the whole basket rotten. ;)

[Celeste]

My reply,"I'll meet you over in the tent department".

[sarainpa]

If you look on websites like Macys.com where they allow reviews you will see as many reviews written by males buying panties as you do women. I think things are starting to change some. Macys doesn't filter out the male comments. Seems to me an acceptance of sorts?

[TGMarla]

Old biddy! Tell her to mind her own business. And while she's at it, the grundies are over in the "Old Lady" section. Now scoot!

[Jill Devine]

Simple response: "Excuse me? Please for the love of God, Stop dressing like a slobby man before getting onto your soapbox to preach to me. Hypocrate!"
Look her dead in the eyes when saying it.

[Joann Smith]

I work hard as heck to earn my money ....and there is no one in the world can make me feel bad about how I choose to spend it ....No sales clerk..No other customer..no knuckle head jock...nobody !..

Joann

[Kali]

My first thought was to respond "I'm not buying them for you."

and then find a sales clerk to pay.

[Gocaps14]

I have had a couple of small incidents but no-one ever actually confronted me.

[BillieJoEllen]

Hey Jill, that would be one snappy reply to make to someone.

[Charise52]

I usually set my attitude before I shop, and no one questions... in the Haines outlet store, one clerk really likes me and is only too glad to help me find panties and camis, and she found a perfect bra one time... we know each other on a first name basis... for years i wore men's underwear, and always thought they could have a better design... then I went to panties... no comparison and no going back... if all men knew how good they feel, every one would wear them... a great marketing opportunity here... in the grocery store one time, I had a woman's hair do and nails done and jean shorts with a sleveless boatneck top... some old guy behing me started laughing, and pointed at me... the clerk ignored him as did I...

[BriannaCD]

I know how stressful that sounds. I was recently in a show store and bought a pair of nice heels, not loud nor outlandish, just nice heels. I was in male mode also. But I was so nervous as it has been ages since I went into a store and purchased anything for myself. In doing so and being nervous, I did not look carefully enough at the size of heel. It was too small.

I showed my wife and she thought they were very sexy and very nice. We went to the store a few days later and I went straight to the counter where a younger (early 20's) sales lady was attending the front register, and told her I needed to return them. (As I thought it would be safe to do on my own since my wife was with me.) Without hesitation, she looked at me and said I needed a larger size and that they did not carry anything larger.

WOW ! She knew ! She didn't say anything negative and suggested I look online for something simular and I might want to check out http://www.crossdresser.com/. I almost busted up but said thank you, I know the site.

What a pleasure that was. She was friendly and nice.

I realize it wasn't a bad expience but thought I would share.



Bri

[Shadeauxmarie]

"Funny, I don't remember asking your opinion."

[KristineW]

First, I have totally been there before - completely engrossed in checking out the sale bins and yes, occasionally notice some ugly old hag glaring it at me - usually I think it is for one of two reasons, either a) you snagged something that they wanted, or b) they are jealous b/c they realize that you look better than they do!

At this stage in my dressing and my shopping, I probably would have said something back to her along the lines of I'm sorry, you are right, these would certainly look better on you than on me. Considering I probably would have been purchasing something a couple of sizes smaller than her, I am sure it would have a) shocked her and b) elicited some giggles from some of the other more polite shoppers. In some ways, such a response still leaves it open to interpretation as to whether you are shopping for yourself or for a significant other!

Personally I have found that some days, I am far more non-chalant about accepting that others suspect that you are looking for yourself, and other days I still get a bit nervous. Honestly, I think I get the most nervous when I see another guy shopping. I know for a fact that Victorias Secret actually trains their staff on how to treat their male customers. My biggest complaint about VS tends to be that the sales girls can get so eager to help.

As for clothes shopping, when I first started out, I tended to go to a big thrift store, and one day one of the checkout ladies complemented me on a dress I picked out. Seeing as the next day I returned for a pair of shoes and happened to be in her line again, I think she figured it out as she said they would go nicely with the dress I purchased the day before.

Then one day as I had moved up to buying things at places like Marshalls, I had to return a pair of Sandals that were too small. The sales clerk commented on how cute the sandals were, and I casually responed, yes and that I was disappointed that they didn't fit - it was sort of like when the Nazi's trap the guys at the end of the Great Escape - I let my guard down, but the funny thing was she didn't care and I felt a bit excitement about being open about it.

[Jennifer Soames]

It is sad to hear that people are so happy to put others down. I have had some very posative reactions. I have had SA that have been so helpful. I love the helpful tips and the goodwill some women have shown me. 3 weeks ago I was shoppig in a new shop (lingerie) for me when the women serving asked the usual size questions. My answers were a bit strained and she asked me was the person i was buying for here at the moment. This happened to me once before and I said no. This time, a little more wiser I said yes. She confirmed it was me I was shopping for and when I said yes she said the she had lots of men who shopped here for themselves.

She measured me and asked what style I was looking for. We looked at different bras and panties and I got her opinion and lots of little questions on my preferences. She asked me if I fully dressed. Nothing made her uncomfortable or embarrased me. It was great and my previous posts are full of similar experiences. It does annoy me when I read posts where people get dumped on. so if this or something similar ever happens to you againremember to keep your dignity even when others have lost thiers.

[Maria 60]

I don't know if it's just me, ill be following my wife through the cloths isles and she may drift off for a second. If a woman should see me there i could tell she's looking at me at the corner of her eye, and almost thinking whats this guy doing here. I tell my wife i have a lot of respect for cders who shop for themselfs, it must take a lot of courage. My wife tells me that i feel to much guilt about my dressing and shouldn't care what other people think and start doing things that make you happy and not worry about a woman you don't even know. If you want something from here i want you to scream it out loud and not care about that lady.

[BeckiB]

There are people out there that spew their nonsense because they can and it goes unchecked. I find the minute you respond they shutup and walk away...fast!

[BRANDYJ]

There may be many people that dislike, or even have false and bad information about those of us that are TG, but most have class and would never say a word and just go on and mind their own business. This woman lacked any sense of class.

[karynspanties]

I would have looked right at her and told her to shut her freaking pie hole!

[Christinedreamer]

A couple years ago I was at Catherines with my GF shopping for HER and another CDer came in. She looked great but her voice was the clue. Some ol biddy started making loud and very rude comments deliberately so everyone could hear. After a couple minutes I walked over and asked her loudly "What's the matter with you? You step on the string?" I heard a couple "OMG"s followed by laughter from a few others there. The nasty one quickly left with a purchase.

[JennaR]

She must have been having a bad day to say the least. Everyone has a bad day now and then. She might have felt kind of lousy about it for a minute, maybe two, then went on with her life what ever it is. The question to me is about the acceptance that everyone talks about on the form. Why does everyone feel the need to expect people to be accepting of the cross-dressing? (Or anything else for that matter) As long as no one is forcing you to use those stupid light bulbs or buy something you don’t want, who cares if they are accepting or what they might think. All you should ask is they respect that you exist, not admire or embrace you as a common denominator. For crying out loud it’s not like we don’t do the same thing, shall we talk politics perhaps? On that I’m sure we could all be accepting of others points of view.

[TNRobin]

I guess that I've been lucky. I've never had a rude comment made or even an ugly look, at least not that I noticed. I have had a few cute comments though.

One that I'll never forget was when I was buying some stuff at Kohl's and the young girl, probably 19 or 20, as she was ringing stuff up held up the bra and said, "I dont' know if that's your size or not." I assured her that it was and we had a nice little conversation since there was no one else in line.

[Rianna Humble]

I've had no problems buying femme apparel but I must relate one incident that happened While Shopping at JC Penney for some bras. I selected my items and went to the cashier station and was met by a friendly sales person.
She ran up my selections and then said " I think that they will will look lovely on you". I thanked her and said I would be enjoying them soon.


Janine, I think thats an assumption that she could possibly get in trouble for making. IMO

I have said the same thing to friends who I know would never cross-dress; possibly not even to save their life. I very much doubt that the SA made any assumption at all. There is a strong possibilty that it was meant light-heartedly in case the man she was serving felt at all embarassed. Let's not get out the white hoods just because someone makes a light-hearted remark that gave no offence.

[Loni]

i guess i have been lucky as as of yet no bad remarks from the lower side of things. and only great remarks from the sales crew's. but then they have been told to be nice. but there have been stores were the girls on staff went out of there way to help, and even got good responses from "other" lady's in said stores.

life has been good.
but then i need to get into town on monday for a blood test...do i have any extra cash? the mall is right by the fwy.

[linda allen]

My advice is never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.
I've seen that before and it's good advice.

In this case, no good would have come from responding in any way.

[linda allen]

I don't know if it's just me, ill be following my wife through the cloths isles and she may drift off for a second. If a woman should see me there i could tell she's looking at me at the corner of her eye, and almost thinking whats this guy doing here. ................

I think many females feel like the women's clothing section of a department store is just for women and that males are intruding unlee they are with a female. Much like men will wonder why a female is in the auto parts or tool section unless she is with a male.

That's not right of course, but it's reality.

[BriannaCD]

OMG ! ! TOO FUNNY !! Good for you Christine.

Bri

[Debglam]

Ohhh the Irony.....

When I read ur post, in my mind "wearing a oversized top and baggy jeans" translates to "dressed like a guy". She's lucky I wasn't there, the drill Sargent in me woulda came out and ripped her a new one until she cried.

Reminds me of last christmas time when my SO and I were shopping at JCPenny and we were looking at panties when this woman noticed that a Mens restroom was within 50 feet of the Women's section....and she thought it was a GROSS INJUSTICE indeed. She felt the need to question the manager at the counter "Why on god's earth did you put a MEN'S BATHROOM so close to the Women's section? What are you now catering to perverts now? I just don't see the sense..." blah blah blah.

OHHHH MAN did I let her have it.

My opening line in my 10 minute straight monologue to her was "Excuse me?! so you're sayin I'm a pervert? maybe I'm being drug along on this shopping spree and that bathroom right there would be my only form of freedom for 5 f***ing minutes!!! Or maybe you're trying to say that every 5 year old boy is a F***ING pervert too! Even though he's just here with his mother! You should be ashamed of yourself for being so F***ING closed minded!"

Btw I want to mention that I in no way meant that I didn't want to be there with my SO, I was just screaming for the males out there that feel like that.

HOOAHH Kelly! HOOAHH!