stop beating your self up

[erica12b]

stop beating your selfs up over wanting bigger boobs ,, have a pro beat them

http://www.abcphotonews.com/9577/thailand-breast-slap.html

it a gov sponcered program

[Xenia]

Hrm....what's the old P.T. Barnum quote? "There's a sucker born every minute"? I guess it's as true in Thailand as it is stateside.....

[Avana]

actually its probably similar to this:

noogleberry breast pump - engorges the the breasts with blood, which promotes new tissue growth. i actually received mine in the mail today, and it is pretty awesome. they definitely look bruised for a while after being pumped! lol.

http://www.noogleberry.com/shop/images/uploads/DMBK.jpg

[Suzette Muguet de Mai]

I have been massaging breasts for a long time now and I can't get them bigger, hmmmm just love massaging them. Alana the breast pump looks like a vacuum pump we use to test sealing in cases. Do you vacuum to engorge the caps full of breast tissue or is there a negative pressure recommended to start with?

[LitaKelley]

I'm wondering what else she does, because they refer to her house as *** clinic

[Avana]

I have been massaging breasts for a long time now and I can't get them bigger, hmmmm just love massaging them. Alana the breast pump looks like a vacuum pump we use to test sealing in cases. Do you vacuum to engorge the caps full of breast tissue or is there a negative pressure recommended to start with?

ya the hand pump is a vacuum pump. that's correct, that is how you use it. I'm not sure about recommended pressure - i just do it so that i can feel it expanding and engorging at the threshold of pain lol

[docrobbysherry]

I used a similar device for 10 months, Alana. ERvery morning and evening. They looked GREAT rite after I removed the cones. But, 10 minutes later they were back to normal!

After 10 months, I got perminant nipple expansion and zero breast expansion!

[Avana]

I used a similar device for 10 months, Alana. ERvery morning and evening. They looked GREAT rite after I removed the cones. But, 10 minutes later they were back to normal!

After 10 months, I got perminant nipple expansion and zero breast expansion!

that's cool with me either way!

im also on a regimen of herbal supplements and i've already seen some results from that.

[April]

im also on a regimen of herbal supplements and i've already seen some results from that.
Extensive use of these so called breast enhancing herbs can lead to all kind of dangerous complications, be careful Alana.

[makin' it real]

Alana, following some sage's advice I would encourage moderation with these things, and you may find you get better results. If you're getting skin discoloration you're using too much vacuum. It's causing the blood to leak from the vessels into the interstitial spaces. This is not good because it indicates at least two kinds of potential damage, makes your body work harder to reduce the extracellular fluid and lost blood components, and may lead to capillary destruction, permanent vascular damage, and visible or malformed veins, along with several other potential complications. I'm just sayin'.

The research that's been done showing breast growth using vacuum used only very low negative pressures over extended time periods.

Similarly, there is a tendency to overdo our feminizing medications too, whether herbal or pharmaceutical. It can be tough breaking the cultural patterns foisted on men (especially in the States!) that says, "If some is good then more is better." This doesn't work with the hormone system, which tries to maintain homeostasis. Ingest or inject too much of a substance that in moderation would lead to estrogenic effects and the body ends up transforming the excess estrogens into testosterone. Same the other way, the body transforms too much testosterone into estrogens. That's why some supplement-taking musclemen start growing "bitch tits."

Again, moderation tends to work better than excess. There are plenty of herbs supportive of modifying the body's hormonal balance. Just be careful with them, listen to your body and how it's responding, and consider being supervised by a medical professional.

Oh yeah, and the OP! I like my herb-created small boobs too much to have them slapped around like that. The article quotes her as saying it even causes pain?!? Uh, NOO! Thank you! Maybe some gentle kneading or caressing massage for me, but pinching and slapping are not allowed! Lol.

~Rachel

[Avana]

The research that's been done showing breast growth using vacuum used only very low negative pressures over extended time periods.

is this what you are referring to?
[Nonsurgical breast enlargement using a vacuum brassiere for tissue expansion].
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16285326

i wish i had a system that could stay on for long periods of time, such as in my sleep... i don't see how that could possibly stay on!

as for moderation and herbs, yes, i've done the research, i'm familiar with the risks and benefits and know my dosage, and i've been doing this since last march. i would not say that my usage is extensive.

[Rogina B]

This device was the subject of a thread not long ago.Karren H made her own and someone else hooked theirs to the manifold vacuum of their car engine ..or was it the vacuum pump on their diesel truck?..LOL Have fun!!

[Karren H]

That's going to be an olympic sport some day!! I need to start training!

[docrobbysherry]

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i wish i had a system that could stay on for long periods of time, such as in my sleep... i don't see how that could possibly stay on!


I used to keep mine on for 1/2 hour+ each time. I had to keep pumping them up occasionally, as air leaked in. I would have liked to keep them on all evening, or all nite, too, Alana!

[Avana]

I used to keep mine on for 1/2 hour+ each time. I had to keep pumping them up occasionally, as air leaked in. I would have liked to keep them on all evening, or all nite, too, Alana!

Actually I think there are a few types of systems - there are the 15-45 minutes per day vacuum systems, and then there the other systems like Brava and whatever is being studied in the article I posted and being referred to by makin' it real where you actually keep it on for much longer periods of time with much less, albeit sustained negative pressure.

I couldn't imagine keeping the noogleberry on for more than 30 minutes, it would give me two massive, permanent boob-hickeys :p (and surely countless other deeper medical issues)

[Rhonda Jean]

Count me in with Alana. I'm pumping too. I've been doing the nipple pumping thing for a few months, and using the Noogleberry for about a month. Disbelieve if you wish, but the nipple pump worked. I've been pumping with the Noogleberry for 1 hour twice a day. I've probably been doing it too much, as I do have significant bruising. Way too soon to say if the Noogleberry is going to work in any permanent way, but it's worth a shot to me.

These are definitely the most odd things I've ever done to feminize my body. Desperate???

[makin' it real]

Hahahah! Alana said "boob hickeys"! Hahahah! :lol2: :daydreaming:

Oh, and one of the articles I was thinking of is actually very similar to the one you posted, so thanks for the additional cite! Here's another that's commonly used: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10845308.

~Rachel

Edit: The Brava system has soft cushioning around the rims to avoid tissue damage and increase adhesion. They also have a large, sports-bra-like garment to keep the domes in place, and an automated pressure mainenance system. Combined, I've heard it allows some people to use them overnight. I've only tried another system, not Brava, so don't know how well the overnight option works.

[JohnH]

The pump in the Noogleberry kit sure looks like what you can get at an auto parts store for drawing a vacuum.

Johanna

[Karren H]

The pump in the Noogleberry kit sure looks like what you can get at an auto parts store for drawing a vacuum.

Johanna

Probably made in the same factory in china... I bought mine at harbor freight.. A brake bleeding kit. And made my own.. The adapted it to my vehicles vacuum system.. Great for long trips! Lol.

[Avana]

I actually desecrated one of my bras trying to make a wearable holster for the vacuum cups... i think i'd have to custom make it though because the angles are wrong.

Anyway I find that once you have enough negative pressure, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon :)

no bruising for me so far - i don't intend to beat myself up!

[Suzette Muguet de Mai]

Giggles I wonder if the old vacuum cleaner hooked up with a bleeder valve could work? One could use a pair of funnels with a silicone bead, a pair of nozzles siliconed into the ends and a hose going to a T junction with a simple valve that can maintain a negative pressure as one slept. I am not joking either, or maybe those jars the chinese use with some heat that sucks the skin up and into the jar? God this is funny, imagine wearing a bra like Madonna hooked up to a portable back pack vacuum cleaner with a pair of tubes coming out of the bra over ones head and into a vacuum hose. May be a good costume for Doctor Who. In reality though anyone has thoughts about the vacuum cleaner being used? Save hand pumping.

[linda allen]

I have been massaging breasts for a long time now and I can't get them bigger, hmmmm just love massaging them. ..........
I've been massaging my wife's breasts every day for thirty years. They have grown from a "C" to a "DDD". I have her convinced that it's because of the massaging. :heehee:

Mine? Not so much. :sad: