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Michelle James
02-04-2011, 04:50 PM
The 5% or so of me that is still male needed a haircut today. I also had a wig that needed a touch up. So I made an appointment at my usual salon. I went in girl mode since I have been that way for the last 2 months except for a few hours on Christmas and a couple of unavoidable hours here and there. Normally I don't let anyone see me without my wig unless I am in guy gear. Today i figured since this is a very TG friendly place what the h#$$. I'm in the middle of my haircut and in walks a guy with the biggest grossest mole covered puss oozing nose I have ever seen in all my 56 years. Just when I was thinking how much I admired the fact that he was out and about despite this deformity and surly he must be an accepting type he went and did it. He said to the receptionist "maybe I should come back when it's not so weird in here". I must admit that me in girl clothes without my wig would qualify as weird, so I let it go. He took a seat about 5 or 6 feet away from where I was getting my haircut. The stylist he was waiting for told him she would be with him as soon as she could. He then said under his breath but loud enough for me to hear "how much longer do I have to look at this circus freak". I'm sure that the owner was about to handle it but before she could say a thing I said "circus freak? really, Cyrano when was the last time you looked in a mirror?" I know it was insensitive but it put him in his place and he sat there quiet the rest of the time. Even though several people seemed pleased with my response I feel bad for the guy. Should I??

Gina X
02-04-2011, 04:57 PM
No he was being nasty to you and you gave as good as you got. Nobody has the right to go about being nasty to other people and if they do they should expect repercussions .................

Niya W
02-04-2011, 05:02 PM
people in glass houses .

DebsUK
02-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Damn it girl, should you have done it? YES!
Actally, that prick got off easily. I mean. Cyrano? Come on, think bigger. John Merrick, the Elephant Man! "*SNORT* I am not *SNORT* an anima...l. I am a *SNORT* " revert to normal voice "bigoted moron"
Of course, in my instance I would have just told him to fook off and thought of the smart reply later that day:facepalm:

Kaz
02-04-2011, 05:07 PM
Why feel for him? He sure wasn't feeling for you! You did right! people like that need to think about things a lot!

Roberta Marie
02-04-2011, 05:13 PM
Yes, feel sorry for his ignorance, his narrow mindedness, his short sightedness,, and his bigotry. Feel sorry that he will never get to know people like you and me, that have a lot to offer in friendship and a lot to contribute to society. Feel sorry for all of those like him that will never be able to see their face for their nose.

By the way, I think you handled it well.

Christie ann
02-04-2011, 05:49 PM
He certainly had an attitude and needed to be put in his place. I still can't figure out why my wearing a dress can intimidate anyone so much that they feel compelled to be mean.

Debglam
02-04-2011, 05:55 PM
Yes (to telling him off) No to feeling bad about it! :yahoo:

Frankly, this post coupled with your purse snatching incident have bumped you up to hero status in my book!

Give 'em hell girl!

:cheer:
Debby

kay2
02-04-2011, 06:08 PM
My idealistic side kicks in and I think this might have been a proverbial "teachable moment." Since he was willing to be vocal you might have been able to have a conversation with him. Though I doubt such a conversation would have made him change his beliefs, it might have pushed him a tiny bit in the right direction.

Then my practical side kicks in, and I realize that though more people in the US are accepting of gays than previously, some never will be. The best one can hope for with the neanderthals is to intimidate them into silence. So, if this guy was as incorrigible as he sounded, then maybe you succeeded in this direction.

Perhaps his own appearance is a factor in his beliefs. Anyhow, I'm sorry you got the abuse, and I'm glad you stood up for yourself. You go!

AnnaCalliope
02-04-2011, 07:20 PM
people in glass houses .

Get thrown out of windows?

Alice B
02-04-2011, 07:32 PM
Hell no. If he wants to play with fire he has to accept the fact that he will get burned.

Billie Jean
02-04-2011, 07:46 PM
You go girl, he deserved all you gave him. Billie Jean

Cynthia Anne
02-04-2011, 07:57 PM
If the shoe fits wear it! What comes around goes around! You make me proud!

Niya W
02-04-2011, 08:12 PM
Get thrown out of windows?
Some times, other times kids come along with bats and break every window out.

Cassandra Lynn
02-04-2011, 08:26 PM
Pat yourself on the back for bringing up some feelings of remorse here, and then call it good. The really sad thing is though that those types will never learn.
I'm sure that in your journeys out there in public you are educating a fair amount of good folks, consider this one a lesson of another kind.

Cassie

TGMarla
02-04-2011, 08:31 PM
It's okay to feel badly for the guy, while still putting his sorry little carcass in his place. Remember that the only reason he puts others down is to make himself feel better. You really have to pity someone who has to live his life like that.

But just imagine how he'd have felt had to said to him that you were sorry for him.

Stacye Rose
02-04-2011, 09:10 PM
You gave him the power to upset you. then you decended to his level by responding to him. People like that are not worth the air it takes to respond to, much less in kind. My mother used to tell me that if you hate someone at least they know you care. The only thing jerks like this deserve is silent indifference

docrobbysherry
02-04-2011, 09:46 PM
Yes, feel sorry for his ignorance, his narrow mindedness, his short sightedness,, and his bigotry. Feel sorry that he will never get to know people like you and me, that have a lot to offer in friendship and a lot to contribute to society. Feel sorry for all of those like him that will never be able to see their face for their nose.

By the way, I think you handled it well.

I agree with Roberta, Marla and others that posted!
U possibly should regret that u responded that way and that he had his impediment!

But, feel sorry for HIM because of what u said? Nah! If he's THAT much of a jerk, I'm sure he's USED TO IT! Lol!

Cristi
02-04-2011, 11:08 PM
You gave him the power to upset you. then you decended to his level by responding to him. People like that are not worth the air it takes to respond to, much less in kind. My mother used to tell me that if you hate someone at least they know you care. The only thing jerks like this deserve is silent indifference

While I agree with this in principle, I also feel that there is a need for... I'm not quite sure how to say this... corrective action? If somebody like this can go out in public and spout hateful things like this and all anybody ever does is turn the other cheek, then nothing ever changes.

I certainly see the value of giving his chain a sharp tug. Let him know that what he said is NOT OK and will NOT be tolerated. There is no need to be cruel while making the point, but perhaps if he is confronted a few times he may start to see that not everybody shares his point of view, and not everbody will tolerate it.

KrystalA
02-05-2011, 06:15 AM
To paraphrase on old saying -- Do unto others as others do unto you -- You did the right thing.

James Kaon
02-05-2011, 02:06 PM
You feel bad because you did have sympathy for his appearance, but also acceptance, to the extent that you assumed he would have a similar level of acceptance of those who do not conform? But that was not returned - so for me, you were cool to say what you did... If someone actually has the guts to broadcast something I am sure they know deep down is intolerant, then I am sure a little brainfood will only be good for them (i mean in this case to compare prejudice they have faced with prejudice they would dish out).

J :)

Being Paige
02-05-2011, 03:31 PM
Sounds like you handled it very well.
I was always told if you didn't have anything nice to say then you shouldn't say anything at all!
sounded like he needed a reminder of this.

Charise52
02-05-2011, 04:10 PM
People need to be put in their place at times (this also applies to all of us as well)... the right language pattern can do the job... and you did well... he will think about that for a long time... and hopefully he will learn...

KellyCD
02-05-2011, 05:27 PM
Yes, you did the right thing. People need to be put in their places.

5150 Girl
02-05-2011, 05:45 PM
I think it should have been used as a learning experience for him. I belive God gave us our little difences so we can learn to deal with them justly and apropriately.

As to his atitues though, I think most people belive we have a choice in the matter. People need to be taught that really, we don't.
His situation he has no choice in the matter, which is why I think he felt as if he could "throw stones"

DaniPat
02-05-2011, 06:15 PM
:lol:I loved the response to him. Cyrano:lol:.....Cyrano:lol2: What was the overall feeling of everyone else there?
While I applaud the way you handled the situation, Cyrano:rofl:.....where was I:roflmao:....oh what the hell, you didn't lose your temper, you didn't use foul language, you were very collected, and stood up for your rights to not be treated like........Cyrano:roflmao:....
If his family environment had been more nurturing and not filled with hate for those who are different then who knows where he may have gone with his life. Instead he is filed with hate and espouses his hatred where everyone can either join him, shy away, or stand up to him. You chose wisely, my dear, the others there chose indifference and shied away. It's a pity someone didn't reinforce your right to be in that chair, getting a haircut, dressed as you felt was apropriate......:Punch: My blood pressure is rising....can't we all just get along:Playnice:
TTFN
Danielle Patricia

Billie Jean
02-07-2011, 01:26 PM
People need to be put in their place at times (this also applies to all of us as well)... the right language pattern can do the job... and you did well... he will think about that for a long time... and hopefully he will learn...Exactly none of us are above being put in our place once in a while. He asked for it and when you are humiliated its hard not to respond. Billie Jean

GingerLeigh
02-07-2011, 01:35 PM
Bravo! Give him hell!

Tina B.
02-07-2011, 02:19 PM
While it is not considered very lady like to get in a spitting match in public, sometimes there is a deep need to hock up a wad and just let go, if ever there was a time that it seems justified, I say this is it. I don't need some one out of the freak show telling me I look like a circus act. If that was the only weapon to defend yourself with, then of course you are justified in using it. Now as far as feeling sorry for him, I just don't have that in me, just because your way of dress is different, does not entitle him or anyone else to verbally or physically attack, or abuse a complete stranger in public, he deserves what ever verbal abuse is heaped upon him.
Tina B.

Dahlia007
02-07-2011, 02:53 PM
Good for you! Applause for standing up for yourself