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Billie Jean
04-05-2011, 12:44 AM
I saw an episode of cops last night where a Las Vegas police officer had an encounter with a crossdresser. The officer was very polite and open minded. Wonder how many times that really happens and what he would have been like if not on camera? Billie Jean

kynw08
04-05-2011, 02:17 AM
You'd be surprised at how many officers are really gay/cd/ or even trans. I know I was....


The jackasses typically will make commentary once they're alone, but you have to remember, PD is ALWAYS being recorded...

Annie D
04-05-2011, 06:35 AM
I am checking out at Walmart, in addition to the checkout lady the checkout superviser comes over and approaches me and engages me in a conversation. Simply, friendly stuff like "nice to see you again, how is the weather, what are you planning this week end" and while we are all talking a local police officer comes up behind me. As we are chatting, I turn and face him and inquire whether he is just starting his shift or ending? He joins in the conversation and chit chat with now the four of us just like we were old acquaintances. We were in one of those "under 20" item lines that are located right by the entrance/exit and during our time trading pleasantries, several people entered and exited.

Once again, fear strikes out and acceptance is demonstrated. By the way, I don't care if the people in law enforcement are straight or transgendered. On the most part, they like us, are just doing their jobs and doing the best they can all the other time.

christinac
04-05-2011, 06:44 AM
That all boils down to what city you are in and the religious and political and other influences of that area. Here in the "South" you have to be very careful because there is pockets where the "old school" bigotry is still very much alive. It was only three years ago where a CD was severely beaten and left for dead and it too police nearly twenty minute to get there and a by stander called for EMS after the police were there doing nothing.

Cynthia Anne
04-05-2011, 07:03 AM
I have seen it both ways! You have your good cops, and your 'bad' cops!

Dana921
04-05-2011, 07:18 AM
I think as with any group of people you will have some that the others wish were not a part of the group! I am not sure I would enjoy being a police officer! The situation that they meet people for the first time seems to often be in a negative way such as issuing a ticket or other law enforcement activity! I am thinking it would be hard to stay positive about people after having to deal with that on a regular basis. Yes it is their job but they are people with feelings and social needs also.

For me I have found that I am treated as I treat others! So trying to be relaxed and smile as I enjoy my day out seems to bring a host of positive comments.

Dana

linda allen
04-05-2011, 08:07 AM
I saw an episode of cops last night where a Las Vegas police officer had an encounter with a crossdresser. The officer was very polite and open minded. Wonder how many times that really happens and what he would have been like if not on camera? Billie Jean
I saw that also. I'm sure it was training. Not that he might not have been polite anyway but it was pretty obvious that he had bee through some training on how to deal with crossdressing or transgendered people.

Kendra Sue
04-05-2011, 07:20 PM
Things are much more open and accepted in Vegas. Iv'e been there

JenniferForFun
04-05-2011, 07:41 PM
Vegas is good like that.
I had a pist a little while back kinda about this. I was in the backwoods of Gorgia and got stopped dressed from the head down. I quickly got clothes on over my fem clothes but some Girly things were still showing and I KNOW he noticed. Nothing was said or mentioned. After about 5 min of interaction I was able to adjust my clothes and hide it all. I got out of the ticket and had a happy day.
Some are good!
Some are bad!

donnatracey
04-05-2011, 09:37 PM
You'd be surprised at how many officers are really gay/cd/ or even trans. I know I was....


The jackasses typically will make commentary once they're alone, but you have to remember, PD is ALWAYS being recorded...

Just curious - what are you basing this on?.......personal experience, studies, 2nd hand info....:doh:

Sherry-Stephanie
04-05-2011, 10:40 PM
The department I was on had several gay or lesbian officers...and that was in the 70's though to the late 90's...

Your expected to treat everyone equally.....but that's only in theory....

There is bigoty and bias everywhere...it's human nature....more so in some areas than in others....

Cops will talk amoung themselves but not to the point you think...remember, we meet all kinds everyday of the year....and generally after a while we get to see it all!!!...

But now adays there's cameras everywhere as well....so I think in Vegas they're much more polite since it is a major tourist town.

Also genenrally if you don't start giving a cop an attitude you'll be OK. Once you give them an attitude expect it back in spades!!!!

Just my humble opinion and 26 years of experience....

But what do I know????

Lorileah
04-05-2011, 10:53 PM
It is their job to protect and serve. This would include transgendered people. Yes, they are human but in this age they are supposed to be polite and professional no matter who they deal with. Vegas is no different than any major city. The officers are trained to do a job, that is what hey do and since wearing clothing is not against the law they really can't and should not do anything more than if you were any other person. You be polite, they be polite, you respond in a correct fashion, they will respond fairly. Being dressed in any fashion that is not lewd or overtly exposed is not illegal in the US (and other Western countries). Too many civil rights law suits now

Allana W
04-06-2011, 01:06 AM
Here in Vancouver, Canada the police take LGBT issues seriously. It is against the law for anyone to harass another person because of sexual or gender orientation, in serious cases this is considered to be a hate crime. The LGBT community generally has a very positive view of the police and work with them to solve problems. There are many gay and lesbians officers working on the force and they always participate in our large pride parade. So very different from the late 1960s, a time that I still remember, when LGBT people were often harnessed and arrested by police for no reason at all.

steph1964
04-06-2011, 03:33 AM
I have been a cop for 23 years in a large city. Police don't care how you are dressed. They work with a diverse public and have seen it all so the contact will depend on why they are there and how you treat them. We will be professional and give you as much respect as you allow. Most police officers are good people and want to catch criminals, not harass people. I work in a conservative area but even the most conservative officers I know would not treat people poorly. Unfortunately there are a very few bad cops but we try to get rid of them because their actions affect how the public respond to us.

BillieJoEllen
04-06-2011, 01:03 PM
If thats the same episode I saw the officer did voice some displeasure when he had to 'pat' the suspect down. Can't say I blame him.....

dawnmarrie1961
04-06-2011, 02:00 PM
I saw an episode of cops last night where a Las Vegas police officer had an encounter with a crossdresser. The officer was very polite and open minded. Wonder how many times that really happens and what he would have been like if not on camera? Billie Jean

I've been pulled over and IDed by the police in just about every state I've bicycled through. They are just doing their job. They are polite and open minded because their job requires it. How they behave off the clock is their own business. Some may not be so polite and open minded after they have punched out at the end of their shift.

JaytoJillian
04-06-2011, 05:58 PM
Well, last summer, my A/C was out and I was at home dressed. I went out for a cold drink, and as I left the 7/11 parking lot I forgot to put my headlights on. A cop was on me faster than you can say "tranny." He was professional and only did one dbl take when I handed over my license. He just said, "remember to put your lights on after dark." That was it, but I must admit that my mind was racing like crazy.

Kendra Sue
04-06-2011, 07:24 PM
Rember driving in full dress for fun. I was very careful

Melinda G
04-06-2011, 08:47 PM
I've been pulled over and IDed by the police in just about every state I've bicycled through.
What's up with that?

kynw08
04-07-2011, 12:34 AM
What's up with that?

Just checking to make sure you aren't wanted usually. You'd be surprised how many felony arrests are made off things like that...

Duana
04-07-2011, 11:06 AM
I can't believe you think an unlawful detention and interrogation is a cop "just doing his job." They have NO power to stop you or ask for ID without probable cause. These are your fundamental rights granted by the US Constitution.

VioletJourney
04-07-2011, 04:39 PM
Cops probably have to be more careful than others to avoid discrimination, as the police have a really bad reputation they're trying to change.

Also, obligatory reference to J. Edgar Hoover.

NicoleScott
04-07-2011, 06:45 PM
Cops probably have to be more careful than others to avoid discrimination, as the police have a really bad reputation they're trying to change.

Yes, and a well-deserved reputation at that. We know how cops behave when they know they're on camera. But we've seen far too many videos of outrageous, brutal behavior from cops who didn't know the camera was on. Others join in while others just watch but never seem to stop the pummeling. Where are all those good cops trying to rid their ranks of the bad ones? And have you noticed that the brutal cops always seem to get off. Despite diversity training, cops are people with prejudices and often use their power to abuse. I was raised to respect cops. Bad cops' behavior makes me trust none of them. If they want respect, they need to really clean out their ranks of thugs and not just claim to.

BeckyAnderson
04-07-2011, 07:01 PM
I was stopped by a New Jersey State Trooper on the NJ Turnpike and he was very polite and very composed. He didn't even bat an eye when he asked, " May I have your driver's license, registration and insurance card m'am. Hugs, Becky

kymberlyjean
04-07-2011, 07:45 PM
There are probably about half a dozen reasons a cop well versed in traffic law could pull over and interview (notice I did not say interrogate- HUGE difference) any driver at any given time. It's been said a Texas state trooper only has to follow you for half a mile before he finds a reason to conduct a roadside interview- nothing unlawful about it, which is also a long long way away from being detained.

Billie Jean
04-07-2011, 11:09 PM
Yes, and a well-deserved reputation at that. We know how cops behave when they know they're on camera. But we've seen far too many videos of outrageous, brutal behavior from cops who didn't know the camera was on. Others join in while others just watch but never seem to stop the pummeling. Where are all those good cops trying to rid their ranks of the bad ones? And have you noticed that the brutal cops always seem to get off. Despite diversity training, cops are people with prejudices and often use their power to abuse. I was raised to respect cops. Bad cops' behavior makes me trust none of them. If they want respect, they need to really clean out their ranks of thugs and not just claim to.Case in point, my nephew bought one box of Ephedrine for his sinuses and got pulled over. Just having the box on the seat prompted a search. Five officers threatened him if he didn't say that he was buying it to supply a meth lab. One box mind you. They threatened physical violence. Billie Jean

HaleyTs
04-08-2011, 02:10 AM
I think you will be treated as you present yourself and your attitude. I think "most" will be respectful!

Duana
04-08-2011, 10:15 AM
There are probably about half a dozen reasons a cop well versed in traffic law could pull over and interview (notice I did not say interrogate- HUGE difference) any driver at any given time. It's been said a Texas state trooper only has to follow you for half a mile before he finds a reason to conduct a roadside interview- nothing unlawful about it, which is also a long long way away from being detained.

Since there are at least a half dozen, I'll only ask you to name two reasons why a cop could stop a car with valid plates and registration, driving straight at the speed limit and not consuming any liquid.

This is the USA not nazi Germany. Since 911, people in this country have been gladly giving away the fundamental rights our forefathers insisted be enumerated in the bill of rights. A cop HAS to have suspicion you have or are about to commit a crime to stop you. As for "interview " vs "interrogation" that's semantics. The result is being detained in the literal sense.

Of course all this disregards the fact that the poster I referred to was on a bike.

I'm not going to debate this. I am very familiar with the mentality. I'll leave you with this quote br Ben Franklin.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Melinda G
04-08-2011, 11:51 AM
Just checking to make sure you aren't wanted usually. You'd be surprised how many felony arrests are made off things like that...
When did cops start stopping everybody to see if they're wanted for anything? This isn't the america I grew up in.
Statistics show a cop makes an arrest out of every 10 stops. So, the more stops they make, the higher their arrest counts. It ain't right, but they never miss an opportunity to run you through their computers.