Hot support request

[Emily Ann Brown]

Just heard from Karren....her wife found her wardrobe.....she told her over the phone...VERY UGLY.


Karren seems calm so far......she covets her sisters prayers and support right now.


Emily Ann

[Jenny Beth]

That's what this place has going for it.......support. I hope when the smoke clears they can talk, it's that initial knee jerk reaction that is always the most problematic. Lets hope for the best.

[Rachael Warren]

Good luck Karren, I hope you get things sorted out.

You know where we are if you need us.

Rachael and Freya. :)

[arula]

Let her have whatever she wants Karren. Keep the peace. X Arula

[Rainbow6562005]

Though you don't know me, if OK, from one human to another
(((Karren)))

Rainbow

[Wendy me]

only the best wishes for you karen....

[Deborah_UK]

Karren, fortunately I don't know the turmoil that you must now be going through, but it still doesn't stop me thinking of you and hoping things can work themselves out for both you and your wife.

:hugs:

Deborah

[Phoebe Reece]

Emily Ann,

You might want to be prepared for damage control of your own. After all, Karren's wife might decide to call your wife for support and advice. Your wife might begin to put two and two together....

[Annette_boy]

Hi All
My good wishes and prayers are with Karren and wife and hope for the best
for her and hers
Hugs Annette :hugs: :hugs: :Pray:

[Lady Jayne]

I hope that when the dust settles this could be the start of a new and more rewarding life.

[Emily Ann Brown]

Hey everyone,


Just heard from Karren.....they are talking now.....her wife is reading online information....Karren is talking about quitting.....it is going to be a long road ahead.


Emily Ann

[Bonnie D]

I hope Karren and her wife can work things out and that her wife reads enough to come to some kind of understanding. Karren shouldn't promise to quit because she will throw out everything to satisfy her wife and then probably sooner than later Karren will become depressed which will affect his life. Or Karren will begin to emerge again on tip toes and will find a better hiding place for her new wardrobe.

I am also closeted and do not envy Karren at this moment. Hopefully I will envy her new relationship with her wife.

I hope everyhting works out for the better.

Bonnie

[DonnaT]

Let Karren know that we are all thinking of her.

Also, she should not to promise her wife she will quit. Eventually it will most probably become a promise broken.

It's good that her wife is reading online info.

[JoAnnDallas]

Emily,
Give my best to Karen and tell her that we are all here for her and wife. Remind her to tell wife that a lot of GG's are here and most will be willing to talk to her about their relationships. It's good that wife is taking and looking at data on the net.

Keep us informed and if there is anything we can do to help, lets us know.

JoAnn

[Natalie x]

Hey, Em. Please pass on my love to Karren. Tell her we are rootin' for her, and hope that her wife can see through her hurt and come to understand Karren better. With genuine give and take on both sides, they can work it out.

[Priscilla1018]

Hi Emily,

Please let her know she is in our thoughts and prayers and that I hope things work out for the better.

[melissacd]

Em,

I am so sorry to hear about Karren. I just hope that a) she does not quit and b) that she can reach an understanding with her wife. This could be a whole new positive beginning for her (for them).

Tell Karren I too am crossing my fingers for her.

Huggs
Melissa

[Olivia]

That's too bad! I really feel for Karen right now. But, I also agree-no promises to quit!! That just can't work in the long-term, I think we all know that. This situation, as bad as it is, also illustrates the great risks some of the girls run by having a potentially devastating secret like ours. I know that coming out to one's mate is a very scary proposition to even ponder BUT, if that is at all possible, it might prove to be less traumatic and upsetting than having a trusting wife discover such a closely held, long-lived-with secret. Just my .02 worth, I do feel for Karen and really hope for a happy outcome here. Thinking of you Karen, Olivia.

[Marlena Dahlstrom]

I talked with Karren around mid-day. Things sounded more hopeful. Her SO still wasn't OK but was calmer and talked a little about what she'd read so far about CDing. They're supposed to talk at length tonight, so light a candle for her and her SO.

[ChristineRenee]

Karren...I hope you and your wife are able to get this all sorted out very soon. My best wishes and support go out to you hon.:hugs:

[Emily Ann Brown]

I heard a bit more this morning.......Karren's wife didn't find EVERYTHING, no underwear, no makeup, no wigs. And she did sneak a peek at this thread, so she knows of all your concern and support and is touched. She will be back, just not quite yet. I'm sure when she does we will get a blow by blow account....you know my sister!


Emily Ann

[GypsyKaren]

Tell Karren, from another Karen, that she's in my thoughts and prayers. Tell her that my SO, KrazyKat, is always available if her wife wants another GG to talk to about this. She can pm her anytime.

GypsyKaren

[insearchofme]

I've spoken with Karren a few times and know her to be a beautiful person. I feel for her since I too am closeted and probably the only way my wife will find out will be in the same way Karren's wife found out.

Karren please hang in there things wil workout if you and your wife will work at it. I'm sure you'd tell any of us the same thing and we all know you just can't stop.

We're praying for you.

Dana

[ladyfydiana]

:( I hope things workout Karren with you and your wife.

Diana

[Karren H]

Just a note: Thanks for all the support! Really appreciate it! Everything changed at 10:05AM yesterday! It's gone from pure panic and demise to a surreal degree of normalcy in a 24 hour period! We haven't talked about it since noon yesterday but we continue to discuss day to day issues and do family things as before! Ball is in her court, just waiting to see where we go from here! She has told me she loved me more than once over the last 24 hours so.... Stay tuned! Love u all. Karren

[urban gypsy]

Wishing you the best of luck and hope things turn out alright we're all here for you.

[Karren H]

Update 2: WOW. Just got off the phone with the wife!! Chatted about a few things, she wants to buy a pool table for the game room? And we discussed adding onto the back of the house next year! Ok. I'm confused? Is this normal or am I dreaming? Comments please! Love u all. Karren

[Tamara Croft]

WOW Karren.... :hugs: I'm not sure if that's normal or she is just putting things out of her mind and trying to carry on as normal. Just keep talking about things, but one thing is clear, if she's talking about house conversions.... adding things... she's not going anywhere. I wish you all the best :hugs:

[KrazyKat]

Yes, your SO is looking for reassurance that the castle you built together is still in tact. This is a great time to nurture this feeling, much like when you both realize a new relationship is something you want to be permanent.
Little cards with the words and phrases you used to communicate these feelings back in the beginning, is a good way to reconnect, reassure, and rebuild the trust. these things worked for Gypsy and I, and everyone is different in the time it takes to adjust.
Please let your loving SO know that as a fairly "new" GG(8 MOnths), I can't believe how our relationship has evolved into something more wonderful than I every thought was possible in this life! :<3:
In her own time, I'm happy to talk, please have her PM me!
Best Wishes!
Kat

[Marlena Dahlstrom]

It certainly sounds like some good signs.

In addition to the excellent advice from Kat, I'd let her know that you're willing to talk about it whenever she's ready -- it may be that she's trying to process things in her own mind first, especially since she's doing some reading up on CDing.

And Karren's SO, if you're reading this, I just wanted to add that if you want talk there's plenty of us (CDs and GGs alike) who are willing to offer insights and advice, or to just listen if that what you want.

Good luck to the both of you! :hugs:

[Karren H]

Update 3: Flowers helped tonight, though she said she is still having trouble coping, mainly her heart condition. Worried that if she had noticed changes over he past so might other people!! I told her that I understood her concerns! We took another walk with the dog and listened to the son's marching band practice. Fairly normal day! Just going out of my way to help out more and be there! Em talked me out of buying a new dress at lunch!! (Just kidding) hehehe Way different that I had expected!!! Thanks for the continued support and No Darla, you can't have my new Corset, yet!!!!

Love Karren

[Phoebe Reece]

Karren, it sounds like you are doing all the right things. Time is a great healer in relationships. I'm glad to hear it's not the disaster it could have been.

[MsEva]

I guess I am reading this a bit late, but wish to add my support for you and your wife. You have to realize that there was a sort of "death" for her. Her whole life got a bit unstable in a short amount of time. There is a lot to process. Speaking from my own personal discovery or outing, it is a process. It seems that she is coming to terms in her own way. Sounds so familiar to me....happened around ten years ago. My wife said that a lot of the mystery about me became clear. She realized that I was still the same person that I always was, that some of the reasons that she fell in love with me was for the hidden threads running through my inner most self. Talk..talk and talk some more with her as she sees fit. Be honest. It will all work out for the best I am certain of that. God be with you and your lovely wife.

Eva

[Jenny Beth]

I am glad to hear that your wife is taking this so easily, it seems that she realizes that Karren is not a threat to your relationship. No doubt she has concerns but the more she learns about how this is part of you the more accepting she will become. I wish you both the best as you sort through all this.

Oh, and a pool table? Go for it. I have been hinting for one but I have to knock out a bearing wall to make room. So far she isn't biting.....oh well!

[MsEva]

Karren, how are things going? I hope well! You are in my thoughts! :)

[Joanne_2003]

My toughts and prayers go out to you and your wife. Just take it slow with her and you may be surprised. I hope evrything works out well for you. :thumbsup:

[HaleyPink2000]

As you know Karren My wife has known for years that I crossdress. But Like freaks out when I go to TriEss meetings etc. Your wife is at the same point mine is seems. Like Emily said, " Queen of De-nile " So Sis lets get together and compair notes, LOL. Gave ya my phone number call me sometime..

Love ya!
Your Sister
Haley:)