I was wondering if anyone had seen this show

[Sophora]

I was perusing Netflix's instant watch stuff and I decided 'what the hey' and decided to see if there was anything about transgendered movies/people in there and the first thing that came up was this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgeneration

I watched the first episode and will be watching the rest of the episodes in the near future.

I was wondering if anyone/everyone had seen this and their thoughts on it. If I could look as good as those 2 girls I think I will be happy(if not I would be happy as well). It definitely made me wish I would have started on this path much sooner.


Edit: Sweet! my 10th post now I can pm and receive pms. YAY!

[Melody Moore]

No, I haven't seen this show yet, but there are many things I wished I had of done sooner in life &
transitioning is one of them, but the fact is like you it wasn't something we started until later in life.
So I want to add something for you or anyone else that talks about dealing with this type of regret.

We can't live our lives in regret about the things we 'should & could' have done. Our lives took this
path for a reason. I can now see that if I had of transitioned when I first thought seriously about it,
first of all I would have denied myself the opportunity to be a man & I would have never known that
wasn't the way I wanted to live my life & that I should be a female. The down-side of transitioning
earlier in my life is that I would never have done the crazy stuff I did do, or never known what love
was like or what a relationship would be like for me as a male. This has helped me in my journey to
understand who I am a lot better. I would never have fathered 3 lovely kids along the way. So you
can't live your life in regret, but seize what you can from the opportunities you did have to help you
in the future where the only things you can really control are the things that you 'can & will' do for
yourself. So don't worry that you were not as far down the path as these kids, you are where you
are for a reason. I just hope you can learn to appreciate it & cherish it instead of living life in regret.

:hugs:

[Misti]

I don't usually, maybe ever, look in on this particular subject in the forum, as it dosn't even interest me, personally. BTAIM your reply to the thread, Melody (#2) is an inspirational one; one I appreciate very much, lived ditto, and I sincerely do hope that all take notice herein, and afterwards, then do whatever makes them happiest in their own lives. That's called "Freedon of Choice," and I spent 20 years in the military fighting for everyone's "God-given rights" of choice, period.
God Bless all of you!

[Rianna Humble]

I can now see that if I had of transitioned when I first thought seriously about it,
first of all I would have denied myself the opportunity to be a man
...
The down-side of transitioning
earlier in my life is that I would never have done the crazy stuff I did do, or never known what love
was like or what a relationship would be like for me as a male. This has helped me in my journey to
understand who I am a lot better. I would never have fathered lovely 3 kids along the way.

I have the greatest respect for any MtF TS who has known what it is to have a relationship as a man and especially for those who have gone so far as to become fathers.

[Sophora]

No, I haven't seen this show yet, but there are many things I wished I had of done sooner in life &
transitioning is one of them, but the fact is like you it wasn't something we started until later in life.
So I want to add something for you or anyone else that talks about dealing with this type of regret.

We can't live our lives in regret about the things we 'should & could' have done. Our lives took this
path for a reason. I can now see that if I had of transitioned when I first thought seriously about it,
first of all I would have denied myself the opportunity to be a man & I would have never known that
wasn't the way I wanted to live my life & that I should be a female. The down-side of transitioning
earlier in my life is that I would never have done the crazy stuff I did do, or never known what love
was like or what a relationship would be like for me as a male. This has helped me in my journey to
understand who I am a lot better. I would never have fathered lovely 3 kids along the way. So you
can't live your life in regret, but seize what you can from the opportunities you did have to help you
in the future where the only things you can really control are the things that you 'can & will' do for
yourself. So don't worry that you were not as far down the path as these kids, you are where you
are for a reason. I just hope you can learn to appreciate it & cherish it instead of living life in regret.

:hugs:

I am sorry if I came off as being regretful. I am not regretful for my life up to this point. I have experienced life(as a guy I know) and even tho I wish I was able to go through this when I was younger I wouldn't trade my life for it. The knowledge that I have gained though and the beautiful people that came in and out of my life will always be mine to cherish and I would not want to have to give them up. Having said all of that, I am ready to start to being the girl I have always wanted to be but was scared to be.

Thank you for reminding me of that. I had almost forgotten all of the experiences I had as a guy. :)

[Kelsy]

I have the greatest respect for any MtF TS who has known what it is to have a relationship as a man and especially for those who have gone so far as to become fathers.

I have three grown children and two Grandsons. I love them all so much but It has complicated my trans
issues and are a potential source of emotional pain and heartache. The two strongest and competing drives
in my life are my children and my dysphoria. Had I transitioned young I wouldn't have known the joy of having
Kids. That joy is bitter sweet!

Kelsy

[Melody Moore]

I am sorry if I came off as being regretful. I am not regretful for my life up to this point.
....
Thank you for reminding me of that. I had almost forgotten all of the experiences I had as a guy. :)
When I dressed as a female at the age of 26 I even got told by my ex-girlfriend that I looked just like
the blonde lady (Marie Fredriksson (http://masters-tb.com/details.php?id=20464)) out of Roxette & I think that freaked my ex-girlfriend out a bit LOL
So it would have been really nice to have been able to transition while I was still that age, but that's life!

Anyway, you did express some regrets about not transitioning sooner, but you are not alone in feeling like
that & that was the point of my extra message in reply to your post, it was to remind us that we shouldn't
look at other trans-people who are younger & feel regret that we didn't transition sooner. Our lives & our
personalities have been enriched as well through the experiences we had pre-transitioning. I believe that
we grow stronger & become much better as people when we can get through all our personal hardships &
suffering without inflicting those hardships & suffering on other people. It also takes time to come to terms
with everything, understand that we do have a gender identity disorder & work out what to do about it.

I think that not having kids is one of those things the younger 'TransGeneration' group might end up with some
serious regrets about if they transitioned early in life & without having a relationship under the sex they were
born with. But that is something that some of us will never wonder or have any regret about because we did all
of those things. Personally now I am at a point where I don't want any more kids. Despite feeling like a lesbian &
fantasising during all the time when I was in relationships that would enviably fail, I appreciate everything I did
because it all made a lot sense to me in the end & really helped me to understand my sexuality, gender identity
& really know the person I am today. So the decisions I make now will have far less regret than ever before.

Transgender kids today have it a lot better because there is so much more information & support available
for them. There also isn't the social stigma, discrimination & abuse with it like there was 20 or 30 years ago.
This show will help break down even more of that stigma against transgender people & therefore kids won't
have to suffer like we suffered because of the older trans people who paved the way for us. But lucky for the
kids today there are those of us who lived out a fair amount of our lives in our birth gender/sex who have kids
& know what parenthood is all about are still around to advise the more younger 'Trans-Generation' about how
life can really be without transitioning early so they can make the best choices with fewer regrets.


I spent 20 years in the military fighting for everyone's "God-given rights" of choice
I also spent 4 years in the Australian Army & I think this is where the main skill-set that i use to get through
life comes from. I believe in always going forward & never looking back in regret about anything I have done,
albeit good or bad. I learnt from my mistakes so those were also very valuable experiences which has helped
me a lot towards becoming a much better person which I know I am today because I have a lot more friends.

Transitioning this late in life couldn't have worked out any better for me really despite the fact there are issues
with my family. But I was prepared for the fallout & the rejection, so I couldn't be disappointed. So therefore I
would never have any regrets about anything. I believe the key to transitioning smoothly & happily is to always
keep going forward, staying focused on your objectives in life that you know will make you happy, while living
your life for you & noone else. Expect to be disappointed because there is always someone who will always let
you down. I found more happiness & positives because I did leave transitioning this late in life than negatives.


I have the greatest respect for any MtF TS who has known what it is to have a relationship as a man and especially for those who have gone so far as to become fathers.

I think it really helps in the longer term if you have explored all aspects of life in your birth gender before you decide
on transitioning, this way you know you haven't missed out on anything or left feeling like you denied yourself the
opportunity later on when it was too late. Having become a parent & been a single parent as well for a few years
was also a real eye opener also to understanding my gender identity. I related very well to single mothers & started
to make a lot more female friends through being a single parent. As a parent I always felt more like a 'mother' when
it came to the close bond I did once have with my kids. I believe their mother was that jealous of my bond with my
kids that this is why she disappeared for 6 years with the kids so I couldn't have any contact with them in order to
damage my trust & bonds with the kids.

I waited until my kids were all adult age so they didn't have to deal with the social transition they would have
had to go through by having a transgendered parent. So I have done the right thing by my kids although they
don't like what I am doing now, but they are at an age where they can start to learn more about it & hopefully
one day they will understand & eventually come around. If they don't I can't have any regrets about anything,
I did my best to get them to where they are now, but they have to make their own lives the rest is up to them.

Being Transgendered when you have kids or are in a relationship is hard & making the decision to transition it is a very
hard decision to make. But at the end of the day it all boiled down to the fact that I can't keep living a lie & not being
honest about who I truly am. So what else can I do except soldier on, keep going forward while doing the best job I can
at being the best person I can be with no regrets while also never looking back because that will drag me backwards.

[arbon]

Yes, I watched it. Thought it was a great show - also like you it did leave me wishing I could have come out a lot earlier.

[Hope]

I was perusing Netflix's instant watch stuff and I decided 'what the hey' and decided to see if there was anything about transgendered movies/people in there and the first thing that came up was this.


Yup - I have seen it.

It made me squirm a little bit.

A lot of bits actually.

I found it really frustrating to watch. I had a lot of trouble being able to identify with the trans-men for the obvious reasons - and I had a lot of trouble identifying with either of the trans girls too, though for different reasons. I thought the trans-men going to an all women's college was a bit of a cliche... but - there it is. One girl's life situation was so foreign to me that it was almost hard to find any points of similarity between us - other than the obvious. She is clearly working hard and I totally respect that, I just don't understand her situation very well, and there is little done by the producers of the series to help the viewer become invested. The other girl was hard to watch as she consistently and repeatedly did such cringe-worthy things. It was nice to see someone who was able to go through this without having to worry too much about financial issues, but it was hard to watch her be basically oblivious to it and in the end really quite crummy to her friend who supported her. It does however serve as a cautionary tale about how a vagina won't make you happy.

Personally I didn't think the series was BAD - but it wasn't particularly good either. I would give it a good solid C. It didn't do any harm, it was clearly trying to be supportive, it just didn't accomplish much.

Like everyone, I would have loved to transition earlier - but this series didn't make me feel like I wanted to do it the way either of these girls did, and maybe served as a bit of a reminder of WHY I didn't come out or transition earlier.

[AKAMichelle]

No I haven't seen it yet, but it will be going into my queue

[Stephenie S]

Yes, these people did act a bit childishly.

But remember, they ARE children. These are college kids. A bit of immaturity, while regretful, can be expected.

S

[Allyson Michelle]

I've seen it before. WAYYYYY back in the day when I was about 14. It used to come on the LOGO channel in the morning before school. All it did for me was clarify what I was already feeling.

[Kokoro]

Yea, I've seen it before. One of the MtF girls seemed quite disillusioned as to what she was doing. She treated SRS like the holy grail and that her life would become so much better once she got it. When she finally got it, low and behold, it didn't really do much for her. It was quite sobering actually, and since seeing it I've been mindful myself to not let the idea of transition and obtaining feminine perfection run away with me. The other girl, I kind of wondered why she was in the documentary at all as she started taking hormones shortly after beginning puberty and looked and acted like a natal female but was obsessed people would know about her.

The two lads were in my opinion the maturest of the bunch and I think provided a more accurate picture of how to transition properly rather than rushed/started early like the two girls. Not saying that they made the wrong decisions, but it certainly wouldn't have been the path that I would have taken.

[iloveps]

i completely agree with kokoro. The two guys were fairly articulate and level headed about their transistions while the girls were frivolous and vagina obsessed. I found that distinction between the two to be pretty awful, i felt like they searched out for 4 trans people who would reinforce gender stereotypes of men being intelligent and women being silly rather than looking for 4 trans people who could all contribute a discussion about transition.

[Hope]

I found that distinction between the two to be pretty awful, i felt like they searched out for 4 trans people who would reinforce gender stereotypes of men being intelligent and women being silly rather than looking for 4 trans people who could all contribute a discussion about transition.

I hadn't thought about it that way - but that is an excellent description of the whole thing.

[Zenith]

They were kids acting...well like goofy kids...

The transmen were interesting especial when T.J. returned to his home country.

But yeah that Gabbie was whiny and annoying...I would much rather the show follow her cool friend Kate. (spoiler alert) At least until Gabbie dumped her out of jealousy....Kate got surgery before Gabbie but could only afford Orchi...meanwhile Gabbie's parents paid for the whole SRS with Bowers...

[Bree-asaurus]

Oh god I hated Gabbie. Self-absorbed much? Good show otherwise!

[Aprilrain]

I haven't seen it but have heard enough to follow the topic. I sometimes wistfully think how great it would have been had I just accepted the reality of my situation when I was in high school (I knew but didn't want to plus I was totally ignorant about transition). Really things happen for a reason though and I can only imagine the ***** story (pun intended) that my life would have been. I had to get past my drug and alcohol addiction and generally grow up a little in order to make this transition with some modicum of sanity.

really? I can't write the word ***** (horror) but I can write the word bitch?

[Sophora]

Oh god I hated Gabbie. Self-absorbed much? Good show otherwise!

I liked Gabbie at the beginning of the show however she started to grind on me as the show progressed. Then again I hated Raci until near the end where she started to change into a more responsible adult(coming out transgender and accepting who she is). Yeah the guys were more responsible through out the show however TJ's epilogue at the end was very sad.

Raci was actually just trying to a normal girl which is really commendable. I think they should have followed Kate over Gabbie as well. I hated Gabbie by the end(especially disregarding the doctors advise after the SRS. stupid bitch).