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danielleb
05-23-2011, 06:45 PM
So my first attempt put me in a holding pattern until april of this year, and then I had a horribly negative experince where my mother refused to see me in person and hung up the phone in anger.

Just a gap filler for those that don't know, I haven't spoken to my mother in 17 years (aside for the call in dec.). She sent me to live with my father then after tensions grew between us as I had mounting frustration over life and tried to throw away all my pictures, medals, and clothes and tell her that I wasn't the person she thought I was.

I guess third times the charm? My mom left a message with my father for me to call her back, and retaining the frame of mind that I am open to the world, but can't control how the world reacts to me, I called her back. She apologized and stated that she was angry after having to talk to my father before me that day (as I had suspeceted). She agreed to meet me at a nearby resteraunt for lunch.

I met with her, she is still quite frail from her recent bought with skin cancer and a MRSA virus. I opened by discussing my fear of who I was talking to, as it seems everytime I speak to her it's a different person that I talk to. We discussed some of our concerns about each other fueled from past events, the whole while I was trying to build the courage to tell her exactly why I had called her.

After probably an hour and a half I finally got to the point of discussing my perception of life and how I just can't properly relate to people, and told her that I was transgendered. It was followed by silence, and I felt like all the air was sucked out of the room and I was stuck in a vaccum. She said, "I don't really know what that is." I gave her the simple explination of a female brain in a guys body. We discussed it a little (and a little about the whole Chaz Bono phenomena that seemed to align convienently), and she asked me the requisite, "does this mean that I won't have grandkids?" I had to explain that it wasn't going to happen the way things are now anyway! :heehee:

She told me that she had recently had to act as intermediary between her best friend and her daughter. Her daughter (2 years older than me) was engaged to her girlfriend, and had to tell her mom she was a lesbian. Her mom didn't take it well (though not poorly, she attended the wedding, just had to be carried out). I had to reinforce that this wasn't about sexual identity for me, and that it's something entirely different (I'm still not sure that she really got that point). I kind of was led to divulge a little more than I wanted in that regard, stating that I'm currently bisexual (though not actively, so does it even count? :D).

I told her that I suspected that for me it was a result of a stressful child birth (keep in mind I was adopted). She said ,"of course." It turns out that my biological mother was forced by her devoutly religious family to give me up for adoption despite wanting to keep me. And at the same time my biological father was trying to get her to marry him, but her family wouldn't allow it. So through the whole pregnancy my biological mother was distressed over the whole situation. (Thank god for religion (yes, that's sarcasm and a joke), take care of your immediate living family, and forget everything else, great additude!)

We spent some time talking about how when I was younger she was trying to treat me like a child and how now she can accept that I am an adult and treat me accordingly. She admitted that had I told her when I was a teenager she probably wouldn't have taken the news well, and not accepted it.

Ultimately (four hours later) she took the point of "you're trangendered, so what?" Stating that as long as it makes me happy that that's what matters most. This was pretty astonishing to me as I could never have predicted such a positive outcome. So I'm holding my breath waiting for the backlash, but I really don't think it's coming (at least not from her).

To add to that positive experience the next day I happened upon a local departement store having a going out of business sale, so I kind of unleashed the girl and spent money I didn't have on some things I needed, and a couple I didn't. ;) Then later that day at the library, the only person in line, I was adressed as M'am while wearing my normal drab attire of grubby old drivers shoes, and all black buttoned shirt, long shorts, and a baseball cap.

So now that that's out of the way, it's onto my dad, who both my mother and I suspect will be a much less positive outcome, but I guess we'll see.:)

AllieSF
05-23-2011, 07:28 PM
Congratulations Danielle. It always makes me feel so good when I read a post like yours where the person on the other side of the conversation actually listens like an adult to what is being said. It is even greater that she seems, as you say, to be accepting, more than just tolerating. As you say, don't hold your breath waiting for the other shoe to drop. But also be ready for a few more "non-understanding" moments as she comes to grips with all this. I do have one recommendation that may help in the future. Now that you have had the first detailed conversation, let it rest some. but, do keep that communication channel open by talking about other serious matters of common interest or of specific interest to your mother. By doing so, you may be able to become not just a daughter/son to Mom, but also and adult friend and confidant. You need attention because of your issues and she probably needs some too regarding whatever issues she has, and she may want to share those with you. Listen well and comment little if she does open up. Thanks for sharing.

AKAMichelle
05-23-2011, 09:01 PM
It is hard to reach this point in your life. I'm glad that you got through this step without any additional friction in your relationship.

danielleb
05-25-2011, 02:31 PM
Thanks. :hugs:

It's certainly going to be a slow road to rebuilding any type of relationship with my mother. She asked me to put some information together for her surrounding transexualism and what my plans for the future are (HRT, SRS, etc.), so I'm trying to peice together as much "soft" info as I can for her.

I figure that I haven't been a part of her life for over 15 years so there's really not too much to come to terms with as far as losing a son goes, I was already lost. I may be wrong, as I certainly have no understanding of being a parent, but I really don't feel any backlash coming since we've already been through some failry tragic times.

Melody Moore
05-25-2011, 07:41 PM
I figure that I haven't been a part of her life for over 15 years so there's really not too much to come to terms with
as far as losing a son goes, I was already lost. I may be wrong, as I certainly have no understanding of being a
parent, but I really don't feel any backlash coming since we've already been through some failry tragic times.
I can so relate to this post Danielle because I think my parents lost me as their son about 32 years ago after my father
kicked me out because he couldn't bully me around anymore. At the time my mother helped me to find a place to live &
stayed with my father despite being a victim of herself of his violence & alcoholic abuse. Eventually they spit up & got
divorced about 10 years later. I tried hard after that to be close to my mother, however we had become so alienated
with each other that having any sort of a normal relationship was very difficult.

The gap was widened even more in our relationship a few years ago when I found out that she had played a role in me
not being able to find my children who I lost contact with 6 years earlier. She took my ex's side in the matter & lied to
me about the whereabouts of my children time & time again for years. I asked my mother every time I called her if she
knew where my kids were. Eventually my kids came looking for me & this is when I found out the truth that my mother
knew where my kids were the whole time i couldn't find them. The damage she did to our relationships is irreparable &
way beyond reproach really & this also played a huge part in why I stopped repressing my gender issues & decided to
transition - I had no reason to fear losing my mother anymore because she done went and lost me as her son for good.

Despite my other losses like the damage to my relationship with my kids everything that has happened now with my
transitioning was for the best really. My main hope is that my kids who currently think that I wasn't interested in
them & don't realise that I was genuinely trying to find them realise the truth & that they were lied to by their own
mother & grandmother (My mum).

Also I think my situation is somewhat different than yours because my mother seems angry about my decision to
transition. Unlike your mother she doesn't want to know anything about it. She doesn't want me going anywhere
near her because I think she fears what other people will think, especially after telling everyone she had a 'son'.
But she doesn't realise yet there are people who live in the same town that already know about me, including a
friend's mother who is nearly 90 years old & knows all about me & supports my decision. This fiery & sprightly old
lady wants to go around & see my mother & 'give her a piece of her mind'. I told her not to & that it would just
make things worse. The only thing I would like to see my mother do is to admit & apologise for some of her own
mistakes. If she did that then we could all move forward. But I won't ever hold my breath waiting because I know
how stubborn she can also be hen it comes to admitting any fault on her part. So my mother is dead in my heart.

JulietteLeblanc
05-25-2011, 08:34 PM
there's really not too much to come to terms with as far as losing a son goes, I was already lost.

Hi Danielle,

I can certainly relate to that. Before I transitioned my mother and I were pretty much losing each other as she didn't quite know how to deal with having a son (her relationship with my brother is also awkward) and I didn't even know how to be one.

Eventually though, through my transition she came to realize that she wasn't really losing a son -- she was actually gaining a daughter. Now it's fair to say we're closer than I ever thought possible. That's thanks to our perseverance and to our efforts for keeping in contact. I'm sure, soon enough, your mom will see how wonderful it is to have you as a daughter, and how much happier you are!

danielleb
05-31-2011, 02:29 PM
Well Melody, that's certainly a mouth full:straightface:. I knew about your trials with your father, but had never heard about how manipulative your mother was. I'm truly sorry to hear of that! Speaking from my own perspective, as long as your children know that you were truly trying to contact them things will work out. This was a key issue for my mother and I, she listened to my dad who told her I didn't want to talk to her, and stopped trying to contact me never having talked to me. So from my perspective, if I knew that she were actively trying to contact me it would mean so much.

I consider myself fortunate, I've never had to face any real abuse, just an over protective and controlling mom that led to several undesireable situations.

Thanks Juliette, I'm certainly hoping so as well. It's going to be a long and grudgingly slow road though. Even attempting to maintian contact is proving to be an obstacle as I ride the daily emotional rollercoaster, so we'll see.

Rianna Humble
05-31-2011, 02:51 PM
Hi Danielle, I'm one of those who do remember the earlier trials and tribulations you had trying to speak to your mum, so I'm really glad for you that it has finally worked out! :hugs: It must be a huge relief for you.

I certainly hope you are wrong about how your father will react, but you know your parents best.

So, the next day, you got enticed in by the magic sign "SALE"? Do share what bargains you were able to pick up!

danielleb
06-02-2011, 03:12 PM
Thank you Rianna!:) It certainly is a weight lifted off my shoulders (which is both good and bad).

Well I kept a mix of necessary and unnecessary items. :D
I kind of let myself go a bit and bought some jewelery that I wouldn't have otherwise. In trying to prepare for transition to full time, I have to have the right accessories, right? :D I bought several braclets, and couple of necklaces, and a pair of earings. Nothing expensive (and on sale ~$5-10), but as someone with nothing, I guess it's time to get started. :heehee: Found a of bra I had been thinking about getting anyway at a 1/4 of the normal on sale price, so I bought two, black and nude, and a couple pairs of panities.
Beyond that I had been searching for bed sheets since my bottom sheet had been torn in half for the past several months. And seeing as it was a sale :D I decided to replace my 15 year old bed spread and buy a complete bedding set, white with purple flowers.:battingeyelashes:

I think alot of my motivation to spend money I don't have was rooted in the idea that "Hey, if my mom can accept me so easily, maybe I'm not crazy." So I have buyers remorse a little over not having the money in my pocket, but all in all I feel much better every day, so worth it for now I guess.:heehee:

I dropped off a packet of information I put together for my mother yesterday, so we'll see how that goes. Talking to her on the phone she seemed to be the more standoffish person I had talked to originally (not at all about being TS, just our strained relations), so that was a little deflating, but we'll see how it all goes. Her birthday is approacing this week, so I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do about that, or more what I can do about it. That may carry some negative implications for the future.:sad: