Were gonna be a fetishism item oneday...

[Myojine]

I know its comming.
I mean theres already a big market for "CWD"
I know one day soon there will be a whole fetishistic following that is entirely post op transexual females.
Rules of the internet spoke:If it exists there is a fetish/porn of it.

So how long do you think its going to take for a group of guys to appeare that only like or perfer post op TG women over those lame "REAL" girls.(speaking as if from that point of view)

[Steph.TS]

I bet it's here already, but it's a small segment of society we don't/barely hear of it.

[Katesback]

Guys that are interested in trans women want the penis. When there is no penis the fun goes away and they are looking at a borning woman. LOL

[Mahoro]

Myojine,
I'm afraid that the infamous 'Rule 34' was already set in motion for post-op trans women some time ago. Although it's nowhere near as pervasive as the multitude of '*******' porn out there, it does already exist, and has a following of hairy trolls just as devout as any other genre of porn.

Nothing is sacred on the internet, nothing....

[Aprilrain]

Hello! where have you been! This is old news but like Kate said mostly the fetish is for pre ops, not post however I'm sure if a girl is young and hot enough she would have no problem working "regular" porn.

[Myojine]

Hello! where have you been! This is old news but like Kate said mostly the fetish is for pre ops, not post however I'm sure if a girl is young and hot enough she would have no problem working "regular" porn.

Im poretty sure theres gonna be a festishism aobut POST OPs
i have seen the love for CWD's XD
actually at one point i was seriously considering doing.... that...

[Sophora]

Im poretty sure theres gonna be a festishism aobut POST OPs
i have seen the love for CWD's XD
actually at one point i was seriously considering doing.... that...

Why would there be? If a Post op is doing porn, who would know? It would be a "normal" girl having sex. It would take some guts to stand in front of a camera and say "I was a guy," which to me is no one's business but my own and my life partner's. I don't see how post op girls would be different and a fetish.

[Myojine]

Why would there be? If a Post op is doing porn, who would know? It would be a "normal" girl having sex. It would take some guts to stand in front of a camera and say "I was a guy," which to me is no one's business but my own and my life partner's. I don't see how post op girls would be different and a fetish.

Apparently you arent aware of the whole erotisisms and sexual backallies I have encountered.
In TRUE fashion there is a strangeness to people that gets into the psychie.
For an example. theres no real reason for a panty fetish infact its developed based on ones own expeirances and sexual preferances. HOWEVER Its a VERY common one in japan. and i too share the arousal factor over panties. NOW that being said, looking from the outside in...
Really everyones pushing the "we are women" thing a bit much to step back and see the bigger picture.
I know there are going to be guys out there who wouldnt want a cigendered female but WOULD want a post op woman instead.
Beleive me... I have seen the weird and "Specific" fetishisms on the internet... It's probably going to happen oneday... some site that catters to it.

[Sophora]

Apparently you arent aware of the whole erotisisms and sexual backallies I have encountered.
In TRUE fashion there is a strangeness to people that gets into the psychie.
For an example. theres no real reason for a panty fetish infact its developed based on ones own expeirances and sexual preferances. HOWEVER Its a VERY common one in japan. and i too share the arousal factor over panties. NOW that being said, looking from the outside in...
Really everyones pushing the "we are women" thing a bit much to step back and see the bigger picture.
I know there are going to be guys out there who wouldnt want a cigendered female but WOULD want a post op woman instead.
Beleive me... I have seen the weird and "Specific" fetishisms on the internet... It's probably going to happen oneday... some site that catters to it.

There is a big difference between a panty fetish and a post op fetish. Umm, you know I live on the internet too and have seen some strange fetishes. The truth is that most guys wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And then there is the layer of most if all post op woman don't release the fact the were once male. Take it from experience, while there will be guys that would want a post op woman, there would be no way of telling until that woman divulges that information. That post-op female who you thought was post-op may have just said that to get that guy.

That is the thing I think you are missing the most. Most if not all, Post op woman blend in into the crowd. You can't tell by appearances. Most don't divulge that information easily if at all.

I did look back and try to see the bigger picture it isn't there. You want proof there is a few post-op porn stars out there, are they being fetished out as post-op....nope not at all(Well ok Danielle does have her own site but she is doing that herself). They are being marketed as "normal" females. Even back in the 70s. I forget her name but there was a post-op who got a scene with Ron Jeremy. They didn't mention that fact, until way after when someone put 2 and 2 together.

Will there will be fetish post-op sites up someday? probably who knows. In the near future? Not at all.

[Frances]

Really everyones pushing the "we are women" thing a bit much to step back and see the bigger picture. I know there are going to be guys out there who wouldnt want a cigendered female but WOULD want a post op woman instead. Beleive me... I have seen the weird and "Specific" fetishisms on the internet... It's probably going to happen oneday... some site that catters to it.

I agree with Myojine. Someone could have a transformation fetish. Maybe some guy with autogynophelia (but does not wish to transition or cross-dress) who gets all the more aroused by a female who once was a male. The interest in trans women is not solely about the penis. I have advertised myself as a trans woman looking for a boyfriend on websites in the past, and some of the men are still pursuing me, even though they know I had SRS. Erotic drive is a really complex thing and comes in all shapes and sizes.

[Kaitlyn Michele]

erotic drive is so complex and mysterious.. and i found the OP to be so obvious that i thought "what is the point?..the sky is blue.."...

i am sure many of us have experienced fluid erotic feelings, and i for one was very concerned that my own ability to arouse myself over transformation fantasies was a "proof" that I was not transsexual...

i did alot of experimenting trying to figure things out and the OP is correct...there is a possibly a fetish for everything out there, and each probably has a left handed and right handed version..heh...

[Frances]

I for one was very concerned that my own ability to arouse myself over transformation fantasies was a "proof" that I was not transsexual...

Same here. I was twenty the first time I met a psychiatrist, my sexuality had become so entertwined with my gender identity desires, that I was convinced that curing my sexual orientation would cure me of wanting to be a woman. In other words, if I stopped thinking about being a woman when having sex (with a partner or by myself), I would no longer wish to become a woman. This erotic drive made me feel very guilty and shameful. It took another twenty years to get over it. Thank Darwin I look young.

[Avana]

That is the thing I think you are missing the most. Most if not all, Post op woman blend in into the crowd. You can't tell by appearances. Most don't divulge that information easily if at all.



Right, and to add to that - those post op women who don't blend in will probably be hounded because they are assumed to be pre-op.

Otherwise we're just women.

Also, people can't be a sexual fetish. Fetishes represent sexual gratification from objects. So unless you're looking at a whole person as an object, it's not a fetish. You can fetishize certain kinds of genitals I suppose, and my general inclination is that this is what gets the 'tranny chasers'.

[Aprilrain]

Same here. I was twenty the first time I met a psychiatrist, my sexuality had become so entertwined with my gender identity desires, that I was convinced that curing my sexual orientation would cure me of wanting to be a woman. In other words, if I stopped thinking about being a woman when having sex (with a partner or by myself), I would no longer wish to become a woman. This erotic drive made me feel very guilty and shameful. It took another twenty years to get over it. Thank Darwin I look young.

Whew! and I thought i was the only one! yeah the whole sex part and all the really bad and outdated information I found on the internet AND a terrible Psychiatrist who pronounced me a CD after 2 visits and told me never to come to her office dressed as a female kept me from moving forward 6 years ago. I read about the "Classic" Transsexual "who never gets aroused when thinking about being a woman or when dressed as a woman" and thought OK where does that leave me? then I read about the "fetishistic Crossdresser" and cried because I didn't want to be that! but according to the "experts" that was what I was. When I look back with a clearer head I can see that it had very little to do with the clothes. If I didn't have clothes to wear I still wanted to be a female EVERY TIME I had sex for as long as I can remember. The clothes just helped to make it more visually real if only for a moment. The truth is the "classic" transexual is an extreme case and clearly has a very low sex drive!

As for being a fetish item no doubt that already exist however MOST of the tranny porn sites are dedicated to pre op girls as this obviously sets us apart from genetic woman, after surgery the "freak show" aspect of being transexual is largely gone.
Also I think guys who like us get a bad rap, especially from us! I'm sure there are almost as many reasons why they like us as there are guys who like us! and blanket pervert statements really aren't fair. Besides where would we be If guys and girls didn't like us for what ever reason? LONELY!

[Kaitlyn Michele]

the idea of "fetish" is interesting because as avana rightly states, you can't strictly speaking say it's fetish to chase trans people...

unfortunately, I feel that we are a fetish in the sense that many people LOOK AT US AS OBJECTS...we are dehumanized in very meaningful way by people, and this dehumanization is a big part of what keeps us out of the mainstream...freak, he/she, it... these are terms that are used, and to the person that uses those terms, we are often less than human..

[Frances]

Unfortunately, I feel that we are a fetish in the sense that many people LOOK AT US AS OBJECTS...we are dehumanized in very meaningful way by people, and this dehumanization is a big part of what keeps us out of the mainstream

When I put myself out on the market as it were (on Craigslist and other dating sites) before surgery, I almost never received a message that started with "Hello... I would love to meet you..." It was more like "ARE YOUR NAILS DONE? IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOUR FINGER NAILS AND TOE NAILS BE CLEAN AND COVERED IN POLISH" (exact message, caps were there). That made me feel very objectified.

Another classic was guys sending me pictures from asian TS porn sites and telling me they wanted to explore their fantasies. I swear, any guy starting with "hello I think you are pretty" would have had me instantly.

[ReineD]

Also, people can't be a sexual fetish. Fetishes represent sexual gratification from objects. So unless you're looking at a whole person as an object, it's not a fetish. You can fetishize certain kinds of genitals I suppose, and my general inclination is that this is what gets the 'tranny chasers'.

What do you make of Asian fetish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_fetish) (the sexual attraction for Asian females by males who are not Asian). I agree, using the term "fetish" can be improved upon. A better way to describe it might simply be, having a sexual attraction to specific subgroups of people.

[TeaganNataliaAcheson]

When I put myself out on the market as it were (on Craigslist and other dating sites), I almost never received a message that started with "Hello... I would love to meet you..." It was more like "ARE YOUR NAILS DONE? IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOUR FINGER NAILS AND TOE NAILS BE CLEAN AND COVERED IN POLISH" (exact message, caps were there). That made me feel very objectified.

Another classic was guys sending me pictures from asian TS porn sites and telling me they wanted to explore their fantasies. I swear, any guy starting with "hello I think you are pretty" would have had me instantly.

I get that for sure. I never tried dating on CL, but in the past just looking for a roommate turned into me being solicited for sex. Trying to be very honest about myself because I know living with a transgender person is not for everybody, I would let people know ahead of time in my ad that I was trans. I never received a call from anyone who wanted to be "just" roommates. Every person that called me was a man, and their first question was, "would you be open to play?" or "would you and your girlfriend be open to a third?" or "do you still have your (man parts)?" This got very old fast. And like Kaitlin said, I felt very objectified, and like I was some kind of sexual perk that would just come with the apartment.

[Aprilrain]

any guy starting with "hello I think you are pretty" would have had me instantly.

I'm told that routinely and it is usually followed after a day or two of chatting with a picture of his dick. I know I'm partially to blame as I am a hopeless flirt and a bit of a tease. After a couple of months of trying it out on line I got bored though and deactivated my profiles. I really don't want a guy who wants me because of my boy parts, it doesn't repulse me and frankly ALL woman have to put up with horny men but mine don't really work anymore so how disappointing would that be a potential lover and myself plus what happens when its gone for good?