Breasts or Vagina?

[Johnnifer]

Now I am a little curious. Why is the vagina such a popular choice on a crossdresser forum. I never got the appeal of that part myself (all wet and slimy and reminding me of the surgery videos they used to show in my old high school anatomy class where the blood was drained off camera so you only saw pink slimy tissue).

Does this forum have a very high transsexual population (which wouldn't be surprising as most TG forums do, but still a bit surprising for a CDing forum)? Is their a reason why a crossdresser who identifies as a male would want female genitals?

I hope this doesn't sound rude but I am curious on how popular this choice is.

[Annie M]

Breasts, a 36C please. Oh and could we throw in a 26" or so waist?

[Veronica27]

Is their a reason why a crossdresser who identifies as a male would want female genitals?

I hope this doesn't sound rude but I am curious on how popular this choice is.

I was wondering the same thing as I read through this thread. In fact, even a set of real breasts could be problematical unless one had TS leanings. As a straight hetero crossdresser, I like my man time, and I don't think my wife would be overly happy sharing her intimate moments with a great rack. If forced to take one or the other, it would be breasts, as they would contribute greatly to the crossdressing realism, but......

Veronica

[Veronica Lodge]

I would trade both in for good FFS.

[Julia_in_Pa]

Well I already have 38 C's along with partial fallopian tube development and ovaries.

I also have functioning male genitalia.

I'm so much of a genetic freak I think I'll keep my D&%K in order to keep my freak card. LOL!


Julia

[ReineD]

Now I am a little curious. Why is the vagina such a popular choice on a crossdresser forum.

I don't get it either, nor do the GGs who read this.



Does this forum have a very high transsexual population (which wouldn't be surprising as most TG forums do, but still a bit surprising for a CDing forum)? Is their a reason why a crossdresser who identifies as a male would want female genitals?

I hope this doesn't sound rude but I am curious on how popular this choice is.

It's not just a CDing forum. Our tag line says "a community for crossdressers, family, and friends", but we have grown to include a substantial transsexual section.

That said, none of us label ourselves and everyone is quite free to post in any thread here, so it's hard to say whether the people answering this thread are TS or not. My guess is that the question was framed as a game .. a fantasy, giving members no other choice than to choose between vagina or breasts, which results in many respondents playing along and engaging in the fantasy?

I also think that with the proliferation of many internet sites that bring the CDing out of the closet in recent years, many individuals feel freer to express their desires, at least online. Whether these desires stem from having Gender Identity Disorder, or whether these individuals experience a severe fetish, is hard to say. I also think there is more to GID than just experiencing it fully (being TS), or not at all (being a CD). It makes sense there would be a great many people who do experience dissatisfaction in their birth sex (whether or not this is fuelled by a fetish) without identifying completely with the opposite sex.

In other words, it's a mystery to me! :p

[VictoriaP]

I am a male CD and I would not take the genie up on the offer but would be glad to wish it for someone else! Maybe I could negotiate for a closet full of femme clothing?

[whowhatwhen]

I would actually now change my answer to vagina.
In my case it's coming to realize that I've never really cared about my male parts nor having any desire to use them.

If it makes sense, for me a vagina would be more practical for intimacy that I feel I would rather have.
Maybe accepting your desire to CD just opens the floodgates to asking questions you long were afraid to acknowledge existed?

Don't take that to mean I would do any physical mutilations to myself, I have what I have but I thought of this as more of an "in an ideal world" type thingy.

[Marleena]

@ Reine. Some posts are just that, just for fun. Not all can be (or should be taken seriously). Sometimes I just hate being all serious all of the time and have to let loose. I think it's great that we are allowed to post most anything as long as it's clean.:) It would be a mistake to stop people from posting threads that others don't get.:)

[Kristy_K]

Serious or not I will take the vagina.

[ReineD]

@ Reine. Some posts are just that, just for fun. Not all can be (or should be taken seriously). Sometimes I just hate being all serious all of the time and have to let loose. I think it's great that we are allowed to post most anything as long as it's clean. It would be a mistake to stop people from posting threads that others don't get.


Serious or not I will take the vagina.

This is why so many GGs are confused and we sometimes find it hard to believe our SOs. :p

Our SOs tell us they want to be men, but we come here and see evidence to the contrary. And we wonder why our SOs seem to be the exception ... are they the odd ones out or are they not telling us everything?

And the GGs aren't the only ones who are confused. Take a look at posts 253 & 255.

I know it's impossible to get a true sense of something like this, if it can be measured somehow (for example would 25% of CDs want vaginas, or 75%?), or whether people respond in jest or not, and maybe the CDers who do tell their wives they are happy being men don't post in threads like these?

I also know there is no easy answer to this quandary: the CDers are allowed to come in here and have fun, this is true. But then the GGs read this stuff and it creates all kinds of issues in their relationships. And even if the GGs don't accuse their husbands of being TS, there is always this "disquiet" lurking around in the back of their minds, as if they are waiting for the other shoe to drop. This adds a strain to the relationship and it can make a GG reluctant to accept the next level of feminine expression. Or, every time the husband wants to take it to the smallest next level it sends the GG into a tailspin wondering if this is the beginnings of GID. Over time, this type of stress can take on epic proportions and can have a negative impact on the couple's intimacy. And then the CDers come in here and post,"I don't understand why she changed her mind about the CDing ... she was so supportive in the beginning."

I guess the GGs (myself included) don't understand why a hetero male who says he is a CDer (not a TS), would find it fun to pretend he has a vagina. You've heard of the expression, "where there's smoke, there's fire"? This hints at the possibility the husband might not treasure his male anatomy all that much, which can easily translate to not liking to make love to his wife all that much, or as much as a non-CD would.

Personally, I try to keep it in perspective, but I've been here for a long time and my relationship with my SO is pretty solid. Even then, there are some threads here that cause me to walk away with a knot at the pit of my stomach. It's this "disquiet" that is always lurking in the background. But as objective as I am, in my early years here, it was scary to the point where it negatively impacted my relationship. I had to stop reading threads in the M2F. And it's not as if there are other forums we can go to where there are CDers who tell it like it is and who don't "have fun" with topics that are not fun for the wives. Does this make sense? We're here to find out about the CDing from the horse's mouth, and we read threads like this. What are we supposed to think?

Like I said, there are no easy answers, and perhaps the CDers who are here having fun don't wish to think too much about the effect their fun is having on their SOs or other people's SOs. Or, maybe they're divorced or single and they just don't care.

Or maybe it's a Mars. vs. Venus (http://www.amazon.com/Mars-Women-Venus-Communication-Relationships/dp/006016848X) thing.

Honestly though, I can understand why a GG who might be googling 'crossdressing' to find out more about a prospective bf's mindset, would not want to take on all of this and she might just walk away. :sad:

[JC]

Renie, Your statements are dead on. I have read that cd's invite their spouse to the forum .... I have never invited her to look or join as I do not wish for her to ask waht you are asking. this would only confuse her more??? it confuses me.

Sorry, but I do not wish her to read about questions such as what color panties are you wearing ... I have never heard her talk this way to her friends.

Maybe, I am weird???

jc

[Marleena]

I'm sure the threads aren't started to create conflict, and I totally get the confusion it can cause. You see my view on this thread although I never answered would be a fantasy type thread. Even if I did answer to it as wanting either one, I wouldn't want either one since I like my man parts. If that makes sense.:)

[ReineD]

I'm sure the threads aren't started to create conflict, and I totally get the confusion it can cause. You see my view on this thread although I never answered would be a fantasy type thread. Even if I did answer to it as wanting either one, I wouldn't want either one since I like my man parts. If that makes sense.:)

I realize the threads aren't started to create conflict. I'm guessing the vast majority of CDers here don't have wives who are also members, let alone wives who even know of their CDing, so they don't even think of the possibility there are GGs who are reading this stuff with their hearts in their throats. :p

And thanks for telling us you wouldn't want either one! lol I think you're the only person in this thread who said this. :)

[sarahcsc]

I'll go for the vagina simply because I want to experience what women experience during intercourse. Although it would be good to have both, I'd rather not have them for life because I'm really just curios. I still like to pee standing. lol.

[CrossBound]

I'm late to the thread but I would have to go breasts if I had to chose. A vagina seems like it would require a lot of maintenance. A penis, while not visually appealing, is simpler and fun to play with.

[Beth Mays]

Pass on both... I am happy to just be a guy in a dress!

[IrishMary]

OMG Only to have a vagina!

[Elana]

I'd go with a cute pair of breasts.

[natalie james]

im going vagina on this one. it's like free SRS. the breasts i'd just do HRT for or somthing.

[Mollyanne]

A vagina so I can get rid of this stupid flagpole and twins for good.

COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!!!!!

Molly

[linda allen]

For those who don't understand why a hetro male might choose a vagina (to replace his male parts), please go back and read my posts on the subject. I explained my reasons once, possibly two or three times so there's no point in explaining again. Other hetro males have expressed similar reasons.

And remember, a genie offering to replace your male marts with a vagina (only) or give you breasts, and having the ability to do so, is pretty much a fantasy. It's not going to happen, it's just something to daydream about.

[Marleena]

For those who don't understand why a hetro male might choose a vagina (to replace his male parts), please go back and read my posts on the subject. I explained my reasons once, possibly two or three times so there's no point in explaining again. Other hetro males have expressed similar reasons.

And remember, a genie offering to replace your male marts with a vagina (only) or give you breasts, and having the ability to do so, is pretty much a fantasy. It's not going to happen, it's just something to daydream about.

And now you know the rest of the story.:)

[ReineD]

For those who don't understand why a hetro male might choose a vagina (to replace his male parts), please go back and read my posts on the subject. I explained my reasons once, possibly two or three times so there's no point in explaining again. Other hetro males have expressed similar reasons.

And remember, a genie offering to replace your male marts with a vagina (only) or give you breasts, and having the ability to do so, is pretty much a fantasy. It's not going to happen, it's just something to daydream about.

Linda, without repeating your entire post #44, you and your wife are older and you've decided that penetrative sex is no longer for you. I think it's wonderful that you both continue to be sexually active any way you can. :)

The GGs I speak of who read this thread and others like it are not in your shoes and this is why the many responses from men who also aren't in your shoes are so disturbing.

But truth be told, Linda, in subsequent posts you go on to say how much more orgasmic are vaginas than penises, how nice it would be to no longer have your male parts bouncing around between your legs all the time, you specify that your scenario means you would no longer produce male hormones, you feel you were a woman in a prior life and wish you could remember how this feels, and you bring up SRS. Are you sure you aren't TS? :)

[Veronica27]

And thanks for telling us you wouldn't want either one! lol I think you're the only person in this thread who said this. :)


If forced to take one or the other, it would be breasts, as they would contribute greatly to the crossdressing realism, but......

Give me partial credit now, I did say "forced" and "but......":)

Veronica:heehee:

[Kaz]

I must admit that originally I thought that this was one of those fun threads... so what I posted may or may not have been appropriate.

Having male genitals is a real pain... they are always in the way and cause amazing nusance. Their only function is obvious. Once that reason d'etre is gone, what the hell is their purpose?

[linda allen]

Linda, without repeating your entire post #44, you and your wife are older and you've decided that penetrative sex is no longer for you. I think it's wonderful that you both continue to be sexually active any way you can. :)

The GGs I speak of who read this thread and others like it are not in your shoes and this is why the many responses from men who also aren't in your shoes are so disturbing.

But truth be told, Linda, in subsequent posts you go on to say how much more orgasmic are vaginas than penises, how nice it would be to no longer have your male parts bouncing around between your legs all the time, you specify that your scenario means you would no longer produce male hormones, you feel you were a woman in a prior life and wish you could remember how this feels, and you bring up SRS. Are you sure you aren't TS? :)

Nope. Not TS. Not as I understand it anyway.

[Annaliese2010]

Suppose you found a magic lamp and rubbed it, and suppose a genie came out and said "...I can give you a pair of female breasts, any size you like, or I can give you a...vagina...Which would you choose and why? Breasts or a vagina?Breasts! Not vagina. I like my God-given magic-lamp & rub it often...

[Christine 2]

I'll take the breasts.

[lauraabdl]

A vigina of course, breasts are way to easy to get and way to easy to develope after you have a vigina silly:heehee:

[linda allen]

Linda, without repeating your entire post #44, you and your wife are older and you've decided that penetrative sex is no longer for you. I think it's wonderful that you both continue to be sexually active any way you can. :)

The GGs I speak of who read this thread and others like it are not in your shoes and this is why the many responses from men who also aren't in your shoes are so disturbing.

But truth be told, Linda, in subsequent posts you go on to say how much more orgasmic are vaginas than penises, how nice it would be to no longer have your male parts bouncing around between your legs all the time, you specify that your scenario means you would no longer produce male hormones, you feel you were a woman in a prior life and wish you could remember how this feels, and you bring up SRS. Are you sure you aren't TS? :)

ReineD, let me clarify a coupe things. "penetrative sex is no longer for you" is because it hurts my wife (menopause). I'm not going to force something on her that hurts. That's not "making love".

You cannot know how a male orgasm feels and I cannot know how a female orgasm feels. I don't know about you or other women, but my wife seems to really enjoy hers. The blood rushes to her chest and face, she tenses up, they last twenty seconds or so, and after a couple minutes, she can have another. Sometimes three. For me, on the other hand, if "it" will stay up long enough, it's a one time, ten second thing.

At my age, I have no anticipation of ever having sex with anyone else and nobody would have to know except my wife and my doctor. Having to sit to pee would be a small price to pay to gain what she gets. I would still be a man in every other way.

Anyway, it supposed to be a "fun" thread so let's try to keep it that way.

BTW: the part about "you and your wife are older ", with luck, someday you too will be in this condition. Think about it.

[ReineD]

ReineD, let me clarify a coupe things

...

Anyway, it supposed to be a "fun" thread so let's try to keep it that way.

I wasn't meaning to pin you to anything, and there is no reason to clarify. You had mentioned in post #274 that you had explained two or three times in this thread your motives for choosing a vagina, and in an effort to update everyone who is reading the current posts (since this thread was started a while ago) I mentioned your post #44 so that people could read it themselves, and I also did my best to summarize in under 10 words which, regardless of the reasons, is that you and your wife are enjoying alternatives to penetrative sex. I am not questioning your motives nor am I questioning your wife's motives and I did say that I admire you both for finding ways to be sexually active that work for you.

I know that you consider this a fun thread and I'm also not trying to take this away from you, but there has been a mild uproar in the forum recently about GGs who do not understand threads like these and who I assume are still interested in having penetrative sex with their husbands. And so, following posts 253 & 255 from CDers who also don't get why hetero CDers would want a vagina, I also voiced my opinion along with the reasons that other GGs (and some CDers) don't get it either.

I hope this clears up my motives for posting my opinion, but if you have any further questions please feel free to PM me.

[RACH99]

I do understand the POV that newer GG members [and at times even our long term GG members] can be shocked :eek: and/or scared silly :cry:reading in the MTF section. BTDT myself, several times.

Reality is this is a place for many to express this side of their personality per si and have some fun or pure fantasy. I do not believe the majority here would ever post something to deliberately hurt any of us GGs here reading let alone a SO. And I am not implying anyone here implied that. Just clarifing myself.

Many of us here [GG/FAB] have had to learn to take some posts with a gain of salt. Personally I am on a low salt diet and know when to watch my intake and stay out of here. ;)

But even with all the fantasy / silly threads we encounter here, if we watch when a new GG posts in fear or confusion we'll see something pretty dang amazing happen. Alot of those same folks posting just the other day about something that seemed silly or frivolous to us are right there lending a much needed shoulder and some pretty dang good advice and support.

My point is that like everything in life we have to chose our battles and learn to accept the not so good with the great. Luckily we have a great staff that very much limits any truly bad things from being allowed to stick around overly long.

Now, no one asked me what I would like in my fantasy, but I'd chose to have a penis for one very long weekend just to see what all the fuss is about. :devil:

[J'lyn GG]

I will chime in here. This thread is disturbing (among other things) to me. Because of that, I asked my husband what he thought? His response? He said, Are you serious? If I had a vagina, I couldn't make love to you (his wife). As far as breasts? Nah, forms serve me quite well. I'm a man, what would I do with real breasts?

I have the ability to ask my husband about these things. That isn't so for all wives on this site. Their cding husbands get offended or hurt or pissy when asked these questions. Or when told why it hurts to know your husband would give up sex with his wife, so he could have a vagina. Or when the cder is forced out of his fantasy world. If you don't understand (even a little bit) why this post would scare or worry a wife, then you are probably self-absorbed. IMO, if you want a vagina, b/c you don't like your 'male parts', then you are TS. At least, that is my general understanding.

[Marleena]

You'd probably enjoy it until you found it had a mind of its own. It either wakes up when you are asleep or falls asleep when you are wide awake lol.
Nice post Rach99. A refreshing attitude.

Now this made me laugh! Nice to see Rach let it all hang out.:)

[RuthM]

Many of us here [GG/FAB] have had to learn to take some posts with a gain of salt. Personally I am on a low salt diet and know when to watch my intake and stay out of here. ;)

But even with all the fantasy / silly threads we encounter here, if we watch when a new GG posts in fear or confusion we'll see something pretty dang amazing happen. Alot of those same folks posting just the other day about something that seemed silly or frivolous to us are right there lending a much needed shoulder and some pretty dang good advice and support.



This is an attitude that I agree with as well. There are times when I find the MTF threads to be overwhelming and so I stay out. I understand how these kinds of threads can be difficult for some people to understand. I usually don't read them because I'm not interested in whether or not you would like to have breasts or a vagina or what kind of panties you wear.

But, if you take the time to read other threads, there is a lot of well meaning advice and support that is offered. When I first joined I had a pretty serious question and some frustrations in my relationship that I needed perspective on. I got alot of support from CDers and GG's that really helped me deal with what I was experiencing and for us to get through the problem. As well the openness that most CDer's respond to questions from GG's has really helped to adjust my thinking and understanding of what CDing means and for that I'm thankful.

[vivianann]

I would definately choose breast's, I would ask for DD's, since that is what I wear in breast forms anyway.

[FeelingFem]

Vagina for me. Would love the permanent smooth look, and plus multiple O's would be a wonderful plus.

[LeAnnWa]

The Genie limited the choice to Vaginas or breasts. My choice would be the third option a smaller waist. After all the most important thing is to look beautiful in women's clothes.

[ReineD]

The Genie limited the choice to Vaginas or breasts. My choice would be the third option a smaller waist. After all the most important thing is to look beautiful in women's clothes.

It's always nice to see people who think outside the box! :D

[tiffanyjo89]

I initially wasn't going to add to this thread, but I have decided to throw my self into this discussion. This isn't a fantasy thought process either...it's actually me thinking realistically about changes that could be made medically or surgically to my body. The biggest part of this choice: ability to continue my life as I know it.

If I was to choose between having a vagina (full inner workings or not, if it felt and looked from the inside and outside like a woman's, and I could have sex and have an extremely boyish woman's body, I'd be happy) or breasts (no matter the size), I'd have to pick a vagina.

"Why?" you might ask.

Well, as at least one other person has stated, I live as a male. There are times I go around without a shirt on...I try to minimize those times, but they still happen. Any amount of breast growth over AA would be noticeable as "out of place" due to the nature of my build. Also, with breasts comes the nature of having these lumps on your chest that if you need to carry stuff kinda get in the way.

That brings me to my choice, a vagina. It's hidden underneath clothing (at least most of the time) and if I was to have some sort of accident where I lost my male bits, I'd see if a surgically created vagina would still be possible. Why? While sexual pleasure without a penis would still be possible, I'd actually have a chance at a more normal (however normal a guy with a vagina can be) sexual relationship (even though it'd be a pseudo-lesbian relationship).

Ultimately, this does involve a bit of fantasy (just a touch though) but another thing to consider is that surgically created vaginas work a lot better than surgically created breasts or penises. It's much easier to move tissue around and make a hole in someone that with time actually can function in a similar manner to someone who was born with said hole than it is to build something that will stick out of the body without having any tissue to work with (if I had to live with a fake penis attached to my body, I'd be begging to have it cut off, I don't like my penis most of the time cause it's just there, making it uncomfortable to sit or pee the way I like to.)

[KlaireLarnia]

Breasts any day as I would love to have a more natural curvaceous upper body. I have no interest in loosing my male parts down below so a vagina would be of no interest.

[Marlana]

I would tend to agree with some of what you said. I am partial to both. That being said, my build would hide some breast growth. The vagina would be the choice I would make. Like you said, it's hidden when I want it to be. I don't mind my male genetalia, but if I did lose it, I don't want scraps. Give me the vagina.

[paula123]

I would have to go with the vagins would love to feel a man in side me

[ReineD]

That brings me to my choice, a vagina. It's hidden underneath clothing ...


The vagina would be the choice I would make. Like you said, it's hidden when I want it to be.

I don't understand this. If you want to surgically alter your primary sexual characteristics, this means that you are a transsexual. If you are TS, then why on earth would you want to live life pretending you are a man?

Or do you see yourselves more as a third gender ... a combination of both, and you still want to hide your more feminine selves?

[tiffanyjo89]

I am happy living as a male who explores his femme side, and do not want to surgically alter myself.

The post I made was if I was in some scenario where they had to remove my penis, I wouldn't want to have a fake one built. I'd want to have a sexual organ, just not a fake penis. That being said, since I have a real penis, I plan on using it some day in the way it was meant to be used.

[kaitlin]

Full C cup breasts!!!!!!! Just because it would look and feel so good! Also they are hard to hide, I like the getting caught thing!

[diannecourtney]

I noted that we've reached 299 replies so here's 300. I find that the genie should be more generous and equip this old broad with both plus facial reconstruction and a lovely voice. Not too much to wish for, eh. It could happen with a power ball win.I still like your avatar.

[RileyEvans]

I would choose breasts, without having to think about it.

[lovemyboobs]

I will have to go with the real female under parts as well. As stated earlier the extra hormones in the body may develop bigger breasts for me! Also if that doesn't work could always just pay some money and have a new set installed! Damn this makes we really want to find that genie!!

[Cathy J]

I'll take the vagina in a heart beat!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hugs,

[rnkaari]

breasts any day..Im new to this so looking sexy n real is very important for me this moment

[moondog]

Vagina, but only if the genie could make me VERY pretty too.

[Shananigans]

A d*ck or a brain?

You can never have both as a man, it seems.

[whowhatwhen]

I'd take the brain anyday, penises can be soooooo annoying.

[kate473]

Vagina for me. I could still wear all guy clothes. But, I wouldn't need to tuck to wear bikini with a bit of padding up top.

[mrhodes]

i would take the vagina, because i can still be a guy outside if i wanted.

[NZ_Dawn]

...and the male brain thought long and carefully, considering all options...the pros & cons for each. The brain reasoned "If the genie turned up, SHE did so with purpose. Genie was there for a reason.....and new what I wanted; She didnt need to ask." The male brain woke....and was reminded to hang out the washing. ;-)

[Rachel Flowers]

Given the number of complaints about this thread from GG members, I'm amazed it's still going after two months and hasn't been shut down by the mods.

This is one of those "campfire" questions, like when as teens you'd ask someone "if you had to, which of these members of the opposite sex would you kiss?". It's meaningless. It isn't going to happen. It makes us look juvenile. And I know none of us are taking it seriously, but it's upsetting the ladies. The native anatomical ones.

For the record, the genie can get stuffed. Being a woman with someone making love to my vagina or playing with my breasts is fantasy stuff only because that's where I am on the TG spectrum. Lovely and highly arousing fantasy but not worth upsetting my wife over by talking publicly as if it were a real possibility which I'd choose.

[tiffanyjo89]

This is one of those "campfire" questions, like when as teens you'd ask someone "if you had to, which of these members of the opposite sex would you kiss?". It's meaningless...

...Lovely and highly arousing fantasy...

That's all this thread is to me as well, even though I did post something to it. There are plenty of times men, when they get together, either as a completely male group or a group with only one or two female members in it (kinda like a garage or a construction site) they usually talk about things that they wouldn't dare mention around others, although it usually spills out into those other areas, like bars and such. (One of these is the "I'd like to get her number" comments from men in a reationship...just guys writing their name in the snow so to speak).

Women obviously have there on version of that scenario as well, such as happily married women flipping through a magazine and seeing an ad with a man who looks (IMO) more fake than the Abercrombie models saying "I'd like to have him" (My mom has done these type of statements about singers...I know it happens, don't act like it doesn't).

All in all, this isn't a "real discussion" but rather one that is had for fun...and it might be slightly juvenile, but a good bit of the forum doesn't have anyone to discuss these things with in real life. It's like having a teenager post on Yahoo Answers asking if she should shave her armpits or "other" areas...ultimately it doesn't matter to anyone except her and people who might see her naked, but it gives her the feeling that she has someone to talk to about it (anonymity is a powerful tool).

[Shananigans]

It's not about your "shop talk", or "pissing in the snow", or whatever it is men do when they get together...

It's the complete failure in the realization of the sexism in this thread.

Is this the most sexist thread on this forum? Not quite...but, it's up there. As a WOMAN, my body parts are not your ornamentation. They are not things to be chosen, as if you are picking them out of a f*cking Crate and Barrel catalogue.

Ridiculous. What the magic genie should have done was given you a free pass to a class in feminism.

Go figure it out and get back to me. The right mindset would probably help you "pass" in many more ways than choosing between magical tits or a magical vagina.

I'm going to fly off on my unicorn now...let me grab a magazine to pick out my other organs.

[Tamara Croft]

And before this turns into a pissing contest, this thread is done!