Rejecting The Macho Image

[brassieres]

That is one of the reasons why I crossdress. Rejecting the macho image and associating with things feminine. Does anyone else feel the same way?

[5150 Girl]

Oh my gosh,, I hate those dirty, filthy, ill tempered, rude, hairy monsters so freaking much!!!!!

[Miss Maxine]

I hate the macho image with a burning passion fueled by the fire of a thousand suns!

[Suzette Muguet de Mai]

Its not one reason why I crossdress.
I do dislike the so called macho male image and it's foul odour that permeates society with so much falseness that it is repulsive to me now.

[Torrey]

Never really understood or grasped the macho concept...Maybe we are turned off to it by our inherent nature.

[AnitaH]

Like Torrey I never really grasped the Macho Male concept. It make me cringe when I see it in others.

AnitaH

[Barbara Dugan]

I love and worship the macho image, I just love macho guys...I only rejected it on myself, I want to be soft and femenine

[Debb]

I used to be that macho image. A few life-changing events later, here I am, also rejecting the macho image and all its trappings.

Can't say I hate it though ... it got me through some tough times.

[cassandra54]

not really. some people might think i am as macho as all get out. but in reality most of the things i do that would give that impression, i could do as a woman, ie, the kind of job i do, being strong, assertive and enduring when i need to be and driving a sports sedan with a real manual transmission.
i don't get into some of the macho games, like how they talk about women, and i don't really have much game when it comes to picking up women. i don't like to talk about sports, hunting or fishing, but you could also associate that with the fact that i am a real nerd, or geek, depending on which definitions you use.
i am more masculine when i am in drab and more feminine when dressed, but all those traits live happily ever after in one body. by the way i think it looks sexy when i am driving my car, shifting the gears and looking down to see the tops of my stockings and garter belt when my dress rides up.

[Miss Maxine]

I've always asserted that Maxine is a lesbian. She doesn't like men, especially the boorish type. My SO, Missa, has masculine qualities. They all happen to be those that I find attractive, in men. It's that direct, no-nonsense attitude that is commonly associated with masculinity. She has all that without the aggressive insecurity. In other words, Maxine is a femme and Missa is my dream dyke.

[jennCD]

Not sure I ever had a reference of a "macho self" so I can't say I can relate but I can see it's quite possible for anyone to feel that way.

:)
jenn

[Eryn]

That might be a reason why I CD. My blood pressure is much lower without the male imperative.

[suzy1]

It’s such a relief to get away from the man and be Suzy.
If being macho is normal for men then there is something wrong with me.

But Im not complaining!

SUZY

[Patty B.]

Dont care for that attitude, but I dress because thats the way I am.

[Noemi]

I am with Barb on Macho. Love big strong men. I just want to hang on their arm and give them kisses as they escort me around.

But beneath that I believe you may be addressing the ultra male image. Especially the effect it has on, well me, when I am in the company of the rugged types. I do not have any pics up here yet I am sorry to say...but I can still fit in with the macho types....and do when I need to. I have to survive and I am able to hide my TG'erness and I do just that when I choose to.
But I do not like the feeling the macho types leave me with. Makes me go home and and tweeze my eyebrows and paint my toes just to feel like a girl again. It is hard to be a triangle in a room full of squares but I do return to triangle ASAP, not that I ever left, One can get swept up in the power of a group of people......And I do not hate anybody. Hairy or not the machos have their dignity too, I do my best to be of use to people. Especially if they are cute men!!LOL

[Kittyagain]

Macho Men are just like us. They are just on the other end of the scale. I don't think they can help what they do any more than we can.

Kitty

[erickka]

The super macho crap should have passed when our dear firend John Wayne did. The roles he played in almost all of his movies stereotyped what so many hate. But on the other hand, what Kitty said , pretty much sums it up.....

"Macho Men are just like us. They are just on the other end of the scale. I don't think they can help what they do any more than we can."

[LeaP]

Yes and no! Thinking about it, I realized I love the idea of the macho thing. A lot of the movies I like, for example, exemplify it. Think "The Dirty Dozen" ...

But just as I gravitate toward it in fiction, I detest it in life. When I run into real people like that, I find them overbearing and false. I reject in myself on philosophical and religious grounds. I strive to be understanding, patient, open, and inclusive, even as I fail miserably due to my T-soaked temperament.

Neither has anything to do with crossdressing for me.

Lea

[Kate Simmons]

Depends on your outlook really. Sometimes those macho guys are kinda cute (as long as they know who the REAL boss is :heehee:). :battingeyelashes::)

[DebbieL]

I've never been macho, nor have I wanted to be.

Too much of "macho" or "real men" is about being able to out-drink, out-fight, and out-f**k eveybody else. Of course, that fact that nobody else seemed to be getting much pleasure from any of it - didn't seem to matter to "Mr Macho".

Being a sissy had it's advantages. Girls would talk to me about their frustrations with their boyfriends, especially when it came to sex. Hearing their boyfriends bragging in the locker room always made for interesting entertainment to say the least. OF course, if I actually said anything, I'd get beaten to a pulp - usually by 3-4 guys all at once, since I obviously knew the REAL story and they didn't want me telling it.

On the flip side, I also learned from this what women actually LIKED, and the kinds of men who gave it to them. Ironically, I later learned that many of them were gay or transgendered.

[sissystephanie]

Yes, I am a crossdresser!! But underneath the silk and lace I am still a man!! As such, I guess I have to admit to sometimes having a macho image. Unless the person is really strange, every man has some macho feelings in him. He may not want to admit it, but they are there!! The beast is within us all!!

[suzy1]

Yes, I am a crossdresser!! But underneath the silk and lace I am still a man!! As such, I guess I have to admit to sometimes having a macho image. Unless the person is really strange, every man has some macho feelings in him. He may not want to admit it, but they are there!! The beast is within us all!!

I’m not admitting it, so there :tongueout

[Tina B.]

I can't hate macho men, most of the time I am one! At least that is how the world See's me. I love fast cars, I've spent a life time in an all male work force, because it was a job relying on strength, that few women have. I don't follow sports really, but know enough about most of them to hold a conversation at the bar. My passion is politics. When I am dressed, I enjoy, my time that way, and I can be very soft, but the rest of the time, I'm all guy.
Tina B.

[Elizabeth Ann]

Well, I will confess to enjoying a good John Wayne movie sometimes. Even an angry Clint Eastwood, but I think I really prefer the stoic strength of a Gary Cooper. What I do have little patience with is the inauthenticity of the sort of false bravado that passes for macho these days. It seems to be more of a sort of coping mechanism for the insecure, where they have to demonstrate to their peers that they are in the fraternity. It is competitive and belittling.

Real macho is a man with a strong sense of self worth, who knows the right thing to do, and is willing to accept the consequences of doing it. That I have to admire.

Liz

[drushin703]

brassieres:
Have you seen the Miller Light, man up commercials where these poor fellows are chided by their friends for being unmandly? "Man Up" the commercial
says even though it is saying macho up.It is quite disturbing.
I caught a fish once and dragged it to the shore. And as it floped and twisted in the sand I realized that it could not breath.As fast as I could I hurried
and retured it to the lake. As I drove home I am sure the fish was relieved and so was I........dana.


my flower bra came in the mail this morning.

[Brynna M]

Macho (likes sports gun etc etc) is fine, if that's who you are. Rude, mean, fake, dishonest, poor hygiene are all offensive.

[RICHELL]

I feel the same way, and I think a lot of us will admit that is how they feel.

[Gillian Gigs]

I have always had a frustration with the macho bull that is out there. The perverbial "p**sing up the wall contest that guys can get into to see who the alpha male is, is crap. When the nature shows on TV, show the bulls in rut, the macho's smash their heads together while the smart one's sneak in and breed. Even in nature the brains can and do best the brawn of the macho's, at times. It is just the way they are wired, and it does not make them correct, then again, it does not make us correst either, just better dressed.LOL

[Frédérique]

That is one of the reasons why I crossdress. Rejecting the macho image and associating with things feminine. Does anyone else feel the same way?

Yes, every day. In fact I’m glad the baseball season is over (I won’t be watching the post-season), so I can get away from all the chewing, spitting pigs that inhabit every dug-out from Boston to Los Angeles. I also won’t have to endure these “MAN UP” TV commercials, or the sight of the Viagra man going home to his allegedly frustrated wife. No more men who cannot seem to figure out how to shave, no more camo-buddies riding in an ATV “bonding” near Brokeback Mountain, no more three men on a couch, watching football as a macho fairy lectures them on what they SHOULD be doing, and so forth. No more caps on backwards, kill the queer, drink responsibly, keep moving, never retreat, and all the rest of the masculine nonsense that disgusts me. Maybe they’re doing me a “service” by continually showing me the other side, tempting me to defect, but I am quite comfy in my feminine “setting,” trying to “GIRL UP” as often as possible…
:battingeyelashes:

Why do I watch, or put up with, this macho panoply? I do it to keep my sister company, since she is the baseball (and TV) fan and I get to be near the nearest WOMAN I know…:)

[NicoleScott]

Gillian (post #28) I couldn't agree more. I take my dog for a walk a couple times a day. It's not just the way he interacts with other dogs that's interesting, but the way he deals with all the bushes and mailbox posts. For dogs, life is just one big p*ssing contest. Good thing he's neutered!
We're not unlike the rest of the animals. It's how we're wired: Mine's bigger than yours - don't make me prove it!
Notwithstanding the testosterone flowing in the early years, I never cared how macho people thought I was. Sometimes the acting is easy to spot. Gotta laugh sometimes.

Frederique! Attacking football watching? Now you're getting personal. If I was there, I'd beat you up. Uh...if I could. haha

[*Vanessa*]

i am more masculine when i am in drab and more feminine when dressed, but all those traits live happily ever after in one body. by the way i think it looks sexy when i am driving my car, shifting the gears and looking down to see the tops of my stockings and garter belt when my dress rides up.

oh ya - that feeling is beyond any other, I also love it.

Every time I see a extremely big macho man I realize why I wear panties. :daydreaming:

[Gypsy Sam]

Elizabeth Ann,

Identified with your response about the pendelum swing of preferences in male media roles(Clint Eastwood to Gary Cooper). The values you stated of strong sense of self worth,and knowing the right thing to do, are tough standards to live up to as we progress through life. Thought your summation will stick with me for some time.

[Mikka]

Besides not knowing the real reason I desire to CD, in my male role I am in a position of authority and make daily decisions for the well being of a lot of employees. When I am Mikka I am just Mikka! Relaxed, no worries and comfortable with who I am. It is such a nice release to be Mikka. Someday, I will suggest to my wife that Mikka and her go away for a weekend. Even though she has never met Mikka, she knows Mikka exists, she is warming up to meet her some day.

[Annaka.Soren]

I like honestly "macho" men, men that are always ready to do whatever is necessary no matter how hard or dirty it might be. I very much appreciate having a male or female around who will willing pick up the heavy stuff so I don't have to. Ideally in a perfect society everyone would respect the roles each individual wants to present, I have mine and the macho men types fill in where I'd rather not. I'd like to think they appreciate my skill set and are glad they don't have to tend to babies or waste too much thought soothing social relationships.

In all honesty however, I can't personally divorce myself from the feeling and urge to occasionally preform some of a macho man's work, perhaps a dress or short skirt would help keep that urge contained! I'll have to try that.

[pinto]

In my twenties i was quite macho and i even enjoyed it. Today i am just the opposite and i am also proud of it. Maybe i also like the macho guys although i am not gay but for sure i love macho grils - behaving very macho like - i love them to be macho with me.

[Rogina B]

All I know is that most of these "macho men" are easily controlled by the" power of the pussycat".lol So,it sure seems like that power beats their "manliness" any day! If I only had a pussycat...Oh well,if i present the part,manny will never know what is in my panties...

[Piora]

I cannot recall a time in my life when I was ever "macho". When I was six and played with male friends, sometimes we would playact 'families' - you know....husband, wife, son, daughter - I always wanted to play the wife. In my teenage years, I was far too shy to even think of any "macho" activities or attitudes. I grew up being very critical of the male/female double-standards that seemed to be everywhere in the 70s and 80s, when for example, all the daughters in a family had a curfew, but the sons did not. The daughters had to have a chaperone, but the sons didn't. Women always being excluded when the MEN wanted to talk about MEN stuff. It made me sick, even although I sometimes went along with it. Perhaps I'm sidelining a bit here, but for me the old 'double-standard' always seemed to go hand-in-hand with machismo.

For me, I hated it....in movies as well as in real life. While growing up, I always preferred movies where there was a heroine, as opposed to a hero (and still do to this day, even more so). I love action movies - but I much prefer ones where it's the woman who kicks a$$. All the macho $hitheads got the living crap beaten out of them by a so-called 'weak' woman. My own mannerisms and personality are softer, less aggressive - I cry at funerals, and I cry at sad moments in movies. Heck, I even cry at HAPPY moments in movies! So, even although I grew up in a time where: men weren't supposed to cry; where, if you wore pink you were "obviously gay"; where homophobia abounded - I never ever embraced that at all.

So, it was hardly surprising that my feminine side was anxious to be shown, and although I think I suppressed it in the early years, my desire to dress in very feminine things is really hardly any surprise to me.

[Kaz]

I worked in a senior management team for a while that was all male... nightmare! No collaboration... it was all about agression and an obsession with winning the case. It was the most destructive environment I have ever worked in. It is portrayed in films as glamorous... cigar smoking execs, etc... the winner is the alpha male.

In my experience, this alpha male is stupid, has limited social skills, an inability to grasp complex concepts, has no understanding of the role of women other than as secretaries or wives, but does well because he has very good bullying skills... and the archetypal male pack animal will look to this 'leader'...

I do not fit this schema... I am not macho... I am who I am... I used to be confused as to why women were more attracted to these idiots than to rational thinkers like me...

Since I have got more into my female side... I think I understand more...

But I still resent the macho...

[CynthiaD]

I've always been the macho man. I was a jock in highschool, I worked on construction, I was in the army, and I've done all sorts of other macho things. Mostly it was an act, but I can still slip into the ultra-macho role almost without thinking about it. People still see me as Mr-Macho, at least to some degree. I can get along comfortably with a bunch of alpha males, even though I usually prefer the company of women.

On the other hand, I think of myself as a woman in a man's body (when I bother to think about it at all). I don't reject the macho image at all. I am drawn to feminine things because I love them, not because I hate something else.

[pinto]

As mentioned before I used to be kind of macho and sometimes my wife likes me to be a macho. It happens quite often that she takes over responsibilities (macholike) also towards strangers and then i feel funny but also good. I think for me nowadays i am no macho and i don't want to be one.

[StarrOfDelite]

You don't have to be Macho to be Masculine. You can be a varsity athlete, a student leader, a decorated combat veteran, a success in commerce, a loving father figure, and a lot of other things which are regarded as "masculine," and still be interested in visual art, poetry, aesthetics, drama and the search for your inner feelings.

H.L. Mencken famously observed that, "No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public," and those words ought to be listed as a Disclaimer, sort of like the Surgeon General's warning on cigarette packs, before television shows like Man Cave.

As most regular posters on the forum know, I like Men very much. However, the mere thought of having sex with someone who looks and acts like Tony Siragusa literally makes me nauseous. Ugh!