"we are boys who act like women who are men."

[Diana Bain]

First of all think about this "we are boys who act like women who are men." Those who go out try to pass the best they can...those in the closet always pass. We create an illusion to be a women...we act like a woman...ultimately we are men. Now there are degree here of how much of a women we are...I think I'm about 20% Diana and 80% David depending on the time of month:D Now here's my point...we all come to this forum for acceptance of ourselves...to ask questions about ourselves...to share stories about ourselves...to laugh, cry and enjoy ourselves. What we all do here is complicated at best...let's all be better at who we are and not live by the Don Henley verse "we love dirty laundry."

[Toni Citara]

Yes, you are correct... life is complicated and there are so many of us people that have something special that is appreciated my a limited few. Could be that the energy of life is there to bring us together and help us make the best of the human experience while we're here.

[cdtraveler]

yes self acceptance is the key and for me at least the biggest challenge. knowing we are not alone and sharing our stories and desires helps.

[Wendy_Marie]

Ummm..No. I am not rejecting your thread here..I am rejecting you stating Dire Straits "Dirty Laundry." Dirty Laundry was actually a song by Don Henley...."I make my living off the evening news...just give me something, something I can use...People love it when you lose..they need dirty laundry."

[Karren H]

Ummm..No. I am not rejecting your thread here..I am rejecting you stating Dire Straits "Dirty Laundry." Dirty Laundry was actually a song by Don Henley...."I make my living off the evening news...just give me something, something I can use...People love it when you lose..they need dirty laundry."

Its a mixed up.. Muddle up.. Shook up world.. Except my Lola.... La la la Lola...

[kimdl93]

I thought that was a Don Henley song too.

Oh well, point taken. Its really interesting how belonging to a group - even a virtual support network like this one - can affect how we view ourselves and how we approach life. I have found inspiration and role models here...and honestly, tho I'd dreamed about going out en femme, I doubt I would have found the resolve w/o the example of others here.

[Miss Maxine]

Interesting point. I know a TS man, who, on occassion, will do something that is unmistakably feminine. I, on the other hand, am prone to doing things that are unmistakably masculine. I guess we are still subject to our genetic disposition, no matter how much we try to change it.

[*Vanessa*]

Community

For me today is a hard day. it is difficult to stay focused enough to write a sentence without forgetting what I was about to say. Don't hear this wrongly please it's just me.

Virtual friendship: I think much more. Threw the years I have chatted and talked to hundreds of people like you. You come and go as I do, weaving through each others lives. Although not me; There is a school of thought that states that everything we see and experience is in our own minds and is just an illusion. I believe there is nothing more to life the Love and Compassion, everything else is smoke & mirrors to get to the end or the other side as the case maybe.

Last year one of my Flickr friends found out something about his girlfriend that he could handle. As a result he posted an image of himself holding his gun to his temple. The caption was explanatory and that was it. His friends jump to action (from around the world), found where he lived and got the authorities to go check on him. They got there in time (within hours) and he got the help he needed. I couldn't handle what was going on so doing what I do I grabbed the image and reprocessed it. After about 6 months I wrote him and told him why I reprocessed the image and asked if I could post it on my site to help others. He agreed without question.

What we see and read online can resonate very deeply. Bits of sentences can bring back deep memories that we have not dealt with completely. Personally I came here in hope of finding some self-help, and I think for the most part have. Writing and reading the threads here help.

Dirty Laundry? I have no cloths and only you as a friend.

PS: I am not going anywhere so don't send the cops.

Vanessa

PPS: Please check this Trailer out for Gun Hill Road - cry a little today & trust it's good for the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09zgt6-f_b4

[Kate Simmons]

Yeah we are pretty good "understudies" of the femme mystique. Sometimes we act more like women than women do, except of course for the primary genetic function. Some of us probably could be classified as the greatest actors (or actresses) in the world for that matter. Too bad they don't give awards for CD's.:):battingeyelashes:

[AllieSF]

"we are boys who act like women who are men." - who also sometimes act like men when acting like a woman! (Or maybe that is what that title means in the first place!)

I wanted to add that, because I see it often in the general forum and other sections too, where the MtF side from panty wearers to full post-op TS's sometimes let their male side out in their style of writing. That includes being "king of the hill" when trying to win a discussion with others, having to win the "last statement" war in contentious threads, to the "telling it like it is" style of making short cryptic comments that are sure to stir the crowd up. Yes, there are GG's in this world just like that, but there are definitely more males who thrive on this approach.

I believe that the members of this Forum fairly represent the general makeup of our society at large, including political views, prejudices, blue collar, white collar, pro gun and anti-gun, whatever. The trick to personal survival here is to try to realize that and try to not get too embroiled when one of our own hot buttons get pushed. I think that way we can learn more while not getting too discouraged or just raving mad at a few fellow members that maybe should just be occasionally ignored.

[Diana Bain]

Muddled I am...and my apologies to everyone and especially Don Henley...and Wendy Marie

[*Vanessa*]

Muddled I am...and my apologies to everyone and especially Don Henley...and Wendy Marie
I don't understand your statement Diana

EDIT: D'oh I get it - thanks :heehee: