Would you date a Post-OP?

[AKAMichelle]

I know some of you are bi-sexual and the answer would be more likely to be yes. But for purely Heterosexual people how do you feel about Post-Ops?

We talk about being understanding and accepting, but how far does it go? Are you more likely to accept because you are TG or does it even figure into the discussion?

[sissystephanie]

I would never date a Post-Op. Even though I do crossdress, I am still a guy and I will only date real from birth GG's!! Nothing against the others, they are just not my type!

[Toni Citara]

Yes.

It's not bisexual... she is all woman, that makes it a hetero date. Get it? Got it?? Good!

[Sophie86]

Assuming I were single, and assuming I found her attractive mentally and physically, my answer is yes. I can't say for certain whether I would be comfortable enough with it to continue, but I am at least open to the idea.

My heterosexual male side has always been a bit fascinated by and attracted to my Tgirl side, so I'm sure that's a factor in my acceptance.

[DeeDeeB]

I am currently in a 30+ year relationship with a beautiful and accepting GG which I have no interest in compromising. But, to answer your question, should I find myself looking for a new relationship, gender and/or gender identity would not be a major consideration. Faith and tolerance of others would be more of a consideration.

Dee :fairy1:

[Emme]

Post Op women are women!

[DeeDeeB]

Emme, how true

Dee :fairy1:

[BRANDYJ]

Ditto to what Sophie and Dee dee said. Long term mate...not likely, but dating is not out of the question should I find myself available. Hopefully, that's not likely either.

[NathalieX66]

Having to deal with loved ones & and those around me is the biggest challenge.
"Mom, Dad, meet Julia.....she used to be a guy....."

I'm attracted to feminine people. I can deal with real girls & and post ops.
Guys, I'm not into.

[Aprilrain]

But would a Post op TS date a CDer???

[AKAMichelle]

But would a Post op TS date a CDer???

Another good question. So why didn't you answer that one for us.

[DebbieL]

Short answer - yes absolutely.

I have actually dated a few post-ops, but I wasn't what THEY wanted. If you want a girl friend who really enjoys being feminine, enjoys sex, enjoys being a girl, enjoys dressing up, and enjoys being beautiful, MOST of the time, then a post-op MtF girl might be the girl of your dreams.

GGs have often been through that phase where they were pushed to be more feminine than they would like to be, and end up wanting to be able to spend less time getting ready by skipping the make-up, wearing loose pants so they don't have to shave, and may be less inclined to watch their diets over the long run, especially after marriage.

TGs and TSs have developed a longing, even a yearning, to be beautiful women. They want to do the make-up, hair, hormones, and everything else to become their ideal of a woman. If you like what you see, that's probably only the beginning. If she likes wearing the short skirt, hose, and heels to social events, you can guess that she might even be more exciting in romantic situations.

The bigger challenge would be who initiates. If I'm a TG and I'm on a date with a TS, she wants me to initiate and be the aggressor, and as a TG I want her to let me know she wants me.

Ironically, I have found that for long-term relationships, I seem to work better with a more "butch" GG. Because she is more likely to initiate with me, and more likely to really enjoy being "in charge of it" as well as wanting to really enjoy sex, food, dance, fun, laughter, and romance.

I think fundamentally, there is something wonderful about a person who is comfortable with the life they live, and loves expressing every aspect of their gender, gender identity, and their passion for life.

I have to admit that there are even a few pre-op TSs I would have liked to date, but again, the issue becomes "who makes the first move".

[Niya W]

But would a Post op TS date a CDer???
I know one that married a CD .

[Angie Sweet]

If I were not in a relationship, and back on the dating scene. I would absolutely date a post op. Why not? She is now a woman. I am attracted to women. The same attractions would apply. Is she smart, funny, and attractive to me? Then yes.

[Debglam]

IMHO, A woman is a woman, period.


I know one that married a CD .

It would bring a whole new twist to the "Coming Out To Your SO" threads! :heehee:

[Aprilrain]

Another good question. So why didn't you answer that one for us.

Im not post op but i'll bite! Suffice it to say that I am dating a CD now though his CDing is not why I like him. I thought it would be a deal breaker at first but I got to know HIM and can accept the CDing. I have never seen him dressed except in pictures. When we are together he's all man and that is fine with me.

[Niya W]

IMHO, A woman is a woman, period.



It would bring a whole new twist to the "Coming Out To Your SO" threads! :heehee:

Debbie they were there at Sparkle .

[Debglam]

Debbie they were there at Sparkle .

Thinking, thinking. . . .:confused:

[crystalann]

Not only did I date a post op girl, we got married last may 26. You cant chose who you fall in love with.
:kissing:

[docrobbysherry]

Maybe! Never say never! It's all about attraction for me.

SRS DOESN'T change your hands, feet, shoulders, biceps, hips, etc., etc..

That being said, I've seen CD/TG/TSs that looked VERY feminine and that I found attractive. I think I WOULD date anyone I find attractive. And, if we hit it off, maybe MORE than just dating?

[sterling12]

Yeah, I would.....if I liked her, and she liked me. Would I date or not date her because she was TS? Haven't we got past that phase? I'm trying to find "A Person," I could make a life with, someone I could fall in love with. Their "Plumbing System" before OR after, is a non-issue.

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Rianna Humble]

Maybe! Never say never! It's all about attraction for me.

SRS DOESN'T change your hands, feet, shoulders, biceps, hips, etc., etc..

Hormones change the hips, biceps etc. There are a couple of GG's where I work with bigger hands and feet than mine, so what are hands and feet going to tell you?

I would be willing to bet that if I lined up some of the younger TS's from my support group alongside a number of very nice GG's from where I work you would not pick out the right ones if asked who is which.


Having to deal with loved ones & and those around me is the biggest challenge.
"Mom, Dad, meet Julia.....she used to be a guy....."

You got that quote wrong, because she has never been a guy, only pretended. If you needed to say anything you would have been more correct to say "She had to have surgery to correct a birth defect". Before anyone mentions that this fictional Julia is unable to bear children, do you insist that every girl you ever consider going out on a date with pays a visit to the fertility clinic before you will take her out?

[Kate Simmons]

Most people don't wear a sign stating such things or shout it from the roof tops. So with myself it would mostly depend on the person and the situation.:)

[eluuzion]

I did not begin CD until my late 20s. Prior to that time, I would never have imagined myself being interested or involved with the things I am today.

Romantic attraction has been much the same experience for me. Although my attraction is always ultimately governed by character, not physical appearance...I have continued to surprise myself by the different "types" of partners I have formed relationships with. (Such as the one with my past business partner, who was hetero, bi, then lesbian, then confused, lol). Turns out it was one of the best relationships I have experienced...to date.

Having taken the option to follow my own path in life, I have learned that I can never rule out anything happening in my future, in any area...the more "open" I keep my perspective, the more option and opportunities I have going forward.

:love:

[VioletJourney]

I could. But I am super picky and it would have to be love at first sight.

[BiancaEstrella]

I would. I actually had a brief fling with a pre-op (didn't know), but it ended for reasons that didn't pertain to her being pre-op.

[jillleanne]

Of course I would. Provided they can accept the fact I'm gender enhanced, non op, that would likely be a perfect scenario, other things equal.

[TGMarla]

Well, were I single, looking, and attracted to her, I don't see any reason why not.

[Phoebe]

I know two post op's who I have coffee with every so often. They seem to not want to go any further than coffee meetings.

[anonymousinmaryland]

Without taking the time to read all of your answers, it would be an educational experience for both parties.

[Pythos]

In my thread "oh my" I thought for a while I was giving a chance on a romantic with a M to F, post op individual. I had some serious trepidations really. It was not so much about ME being with this person on a romantic level, but it was more about those outside of my body and how they would react. Namely being two big influences on my life. My flying and my mother. My mother is the most problematic because she is a very judgmental person, and even with the revelations about my new GF my mom is still gonna think ill. I am both dreading, and joyfully looking forward to introducing her to my mom. Mother will be in for a shock the likes of which she has not been part of I am sure :)
But the point being that I think I did circumvent those trepidations and indeed decided to date what I thought was a post op trans sexual. The individual in question is exotic, beautiful in many ways, and simply makes me feel loved. How could I turn that down in this world of people being too closed minded?

It so turns out she in fact a full on GG. Only the great maker knows why she has the build she does, but she is quite a woman.

[AKAMichelle]

I just realized that I didn't answer the question.

The reason this came up is I was talking with a very pretty Post-Op about their dating life. How they were rejected all of the time by hetero guys. That got me really thinking about how would I handle the whole situation. While I still don't know exactly since so much of it would depend upon the person involved. If I truly saw the person as female then I guess I would go forward with dating.

[Katie83]

I'm married, but if i were in a dating situation i would have no issues at all dating a post op, i'd have to be attracted to them and share interests etc of course, but the same would be said for dating a gg.
Katie

[Niya W]

IMHO, A woman is a woman, period.



It would bring a whole new twist to the "Coming Out To Your SO" threads! :heehee:They already knew. Debbie it was kind of like picking up a date at sparkle. There's that word again :)

[Jorja]

No I wouldn't. They are bitchy, think they are all that and the bag of chips, spend way too much time in front of the bathroom mirror, think it is all about them......Oh i just described myself!:eek::heehee::D

Yes of course I would. But he better be cute!

[Jeninus]

I've been happily married for many years, so the question is really academic in my case. However, the audience here is not typical of the run-of-the-mill male population, so much of the straight portion of which is reflexively at least mildly homophobic and would probably not make fine distinctions between post-ops and gays. It is almost a given that we TG/CD people would be much more accepting of the idea of dating and forming a close relationship with a post-op woman than most straight men.

In my own case, yes -- if I had never met my wife and met a post-op TS who was physically and otherwise attractive, and who found me likewise attractive and accepted me as I am, I undoubtedly would. Lots of conditions and caveats here, as there is in the formation of any relationship.

[k lynn]

Yes Ithink I would but like others have said I am looking for someone to share common interest and build a life together with.

[Clueless]

Yes, if I was attracted to her & felt like we could connect.

[kassy]

i would love to at least give it a go. it would be different

[linda allen]

Like many others, I'm happily married so it's just a theoretical question to me, but - She would have to look and act like a genetic female. No 6'4" 220 lb transexual for me. Other than that, it's a matter of compatibility just like it would be for a genetic female. I would certainly date one. Long term relationship, well she's a woman now so why not if everything else clicked.

[Fiona Scott]

I think this is a really easy question. Yes.....its the person not the gender thats important to me.
Fiona.
xx

[Julia Welch]

No ... I only like women ... and wearing their clothes. :o

[Nigella]

How would you be able to tell? I doubt many post ops would admit to the fact that they were born male and had gone through SRS, FFS and the rest of it. Any post op would see themselves as a woman and are unlikely to relate to being anything else.

[linda allen]

How would you be able to tell? I doubt many post ops would admit to the fact that they were born male and had gone through SRS, FFS and the rest of it. Any post op would see themselves as a woman and are unlikely to relate to being anything else.
That was part of my point above. Some males are just not good candidates for SRS. Really tall or big boned, big hands, big feet, etc. And that's assuming they have taken care of the beard and possible balding.

[SuzanneBender]

Wow. I thought this was the last place I would see people determining gender by what someone looks like and what has been between their legs. I am happily married, but if I would ever be in a dating situation again it would totally be about the person and not the gender. It certainly would not be about if the lady had SRS or not.

[Nikki A.]

Until recently I would have said probably not. But I now think that I might consider a post -op if I found her interesting and compatible.
My question is, would she want to date a CD? It seems to me that they would not want to be reminded of what they went through and of course how would they feel if their man also decided to transition.

[Rianna Humble]

That was part of my point above. Some males are just not good candidates for SRS. Really tall or big boned, big hands, big feet, etc.

Which is quite unlike the description of Europe's tallest teenager who happens to be a GG. She is only 6 ft 10 with size 12 feet, hands in proportion and still growing.

[charla42]

I am in the same situation as Jilleanne. Being gender enhanced, Non-Op it would be a perfect fit.

[Dami]

I believe once someone has completley become a woman, they are a woman.
So yes I would, wether or not I was CD'ing.

Dami

"I'm not a real woman, but I did wear a cute skirt at a Holiday Inn Express one time."

[Kaitlyn Michele]

Ts's are rejected or worse all the time just for being ts...they use us in movies as props to make guys puke after having sex with us..

linda i'm sorry but your comment is not true.....unpassable ts women are just as much a candidate for srs and any other... unpassable ts women have it rough, but it has nothing to do with srs...unpassable ts women or no less a woman than the most stunning ts

[NathalieX66]

You got that quote wrong, because she has never been a guy, only pretended. If you needed to say anything you would have been more correct to say "She had to have surgery to correct a birth defect". Before anyone mentions that this fictional Julia is unable to bear children, do you insist that every girl you ever consider going out on a date with pays a visit to the fertility clinic before you will take her out?

True.
Yeah., I'm still interested in bearing children. That's really my only criteria and agenda.
I can be on the female side of the tracks, that's fine. I really don't care what gender I am, I'm just a person.

[chloe23]

That was part of my point above. Some males are just not good candidates for SRS. Really tall or big boned, big hands, big feet, etc. And that's assuming they have taken care of the beard and possible balding.


Linda, It doesn't matter what they look like or how big their features are to be a candidate for SRS. What matters most is that they have the right counseling and are fully prepared for SRS and this is what they choose. Nobody see's what you have between your legs unless you show them, so what difference should it make. As long as that person is comfortable with SRS, an they are a happier person, that's all that should matter.

[SabrinaDubh]

If I was single, yes.

[Shelby]

I had to really think about my answer to this one. Physical attraction is involved regardless of man or woman or if they changed their gender. A TS doesn't walk around with a sign proclaiming they are one so unless she or he told you on the first date, you wouldn't know. I have been watching a few Youtube videos on some TS's that went through the SRS and FSS. One woman talks about a her dating life briefly. She mentions that she has gone on lots of dates. I wish our friend Julie (Zenith) would provide some insight into this subject.

There are a lot of very attractive TS women (such as Julie). If we were to use a scenario this is how I would respond. I see a beautiful woman and I start to talk to her. She seems pleasant, intelligent and willing to talk to me. We agree to go on a date and all goes well. Then she tells me that she used to be a man. I would be stunned, shocked and a little unsure how to proceed next. Yet, I have liked her enough to go out with her and I find her attractive. My only hang up would be that I want to be a Dad have children of my own blood. Now I know there are ways to deal with that but that would be the only reason to prevent me from dating a TS. I think that I would not want to see photos of her before the changes since that would damage the illusion that she has worked so hard to create. It is the same way for me with a female friend. She has seen pics of me dressed but doesn't want to meet Shelby since it would be hard to accept. By the way, here is a link to a woman who I have been learning more about on YouTube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-szuZ-gGCI&feature=related

[Adelina]

Pre-op, post-op, non-op, CD, GG, I'd date anyone as long as I find them attractive and caring. There's more important things to be hung up about.

[Jessica1984]

Pre-op, post-op, non-op, CD, GG, I'd date anyone as long as I find them attractive and caring. There's more important things to be hung up about.

I was trying to think of a way to say exactly this, you put it perfectly Adelina, I couldn't care less whether they were pre, post, non, CD, etc...as long as we mesh nothing else matters to me :)

[MackenzieMarigold]

I see it this way. Love is love. Some people love certain people, others love other certain types of people. It's all about what appeals to you. To me, post-op and pre-op are one in the same. I don't see based on genitalia, I see what you have on the inside (provided you show your true self to me) If you're a girl on the inside, it doesn't matter to me if you're a boy to the rest of the world, and only female in your head. If you are you, and I love you, then well, I love you!

But hey that's just me.

[lovemyboobs]

I have been kind of interested to meet a Post OP TG and have a conversation with them. And depending on what their interests were and if they jived with mine then I could see dating. I would have to do some hard thinking before marriage. I do want my own children someday and would appreciate it if they were with my SO as well.

[donnatracey]

To answer the OP's question - you betcha!......

[Lorileah]

absolutely (even though the question wasn't directed at me). I would date anyone I thought was a good match

[Rianna Humble]

I would have to do some hard thinking before marriage. I do want my own children someday and would appreciate it if they were with my SO as well.

Does this mean that you would ask a GG to be tested for fertility before you proposed marriage?

[helena.gcd]

i would. A post-op woman is a woman.

[ElusiveGirl]

Wow. I thought this was the last place I would see people determining gender by what someone looks like and what has been between their legs. I am happily married, but if I would ever be in a dating situation again it would totally be about the person and not the gender.

Well... gender is a pretty huge part of "person". How they look, act, dress, speak, socialize with... all of it gets factored in. If what is between their legs is obviously visible, well, that's part of it too. But I think I know what you are getting at: Judging a person's eligibility and entire worth based upon a below-the-belt surgical procedure is fairly reductivist and not nice. Really, it's a tactless question to pose in the first place.

That being said, some people will never be able to deal with it. I guess they lose out on having a nice companion. Of course it works both ways. I've run into several TS's who want NOTHING to do with CD's/TG's of any stripe whatsoever. I guess they also lose out.

In the end, we are attracted to what we are attracted to. At least we can be polite if another doesn't fit our criteria for whatever reason.

[MJ]

i just want to thank everyone there's hope for me yet :) I'm impressed

[Rianna Humble]

I know some of you are bi-sexual and the answer would be more likely to be yes. But for purely Heterosexual people how do you feel about Post-Ops?

I must be missing something here, why would a bisexual man feel better about dating a woman than a heterosexual man?

[*Vanessa*]

want a silly questions - sorry.
Don't mean to be nasty, but come on, I'm pretty sure I can here banjos playing. shesh

[lovemyboobs]

Does this mean that you would ask a GG to be tested for fertility before you proposed marriage?

Well I hope to put this eloquently but if a GG can not bare children then to me that seems different than someone that had surgery to have the parts of a female without the ability to have children. Hope that came out right and not step on too many toes.....

[Jorja]

Well I hope to put this eloquently but if a GG can not bare children then to me that seems different than someone that had surgery to have the parts of a female without the ability to have children. Hope that came out right and not step on too many toes.....

OUCH my toes!!!! I hope everyone can understand what your saying, I did.

[Rianna Humble]

I would have to do some hard thinking before marriage. I do want my own children someday and would appreciate it if they were with my SO as well.

Does this mean that you would ask a GG to be tested for fertility before you proposed marriage?

Well I hope to put this eloquently but if a GG can not bare children then to me that seems different than someone that had surgery to have the parts of a female without the ability to have children.

I'm sorry, you were making the ability to bear your children a condition of marriage. Unless you have already had children with a woman, you can only guarantee that they meet this condition by insisting that they (and you) visit a fertility specialist and get tested. So my question stands, since you make that ability a condition of being willing to marry, would you insist that a GG go through the tests before you considered proposing?

[Danni Bear]

On the the Date a post-op ? Of course not only dated but married
Now I am a post-op M2F and he is a post-op F2M. And it was a remarriage to each other. 44 years all total.
So to ayone who thinks that beng post is anything else let a. Post-op assure you. You are either a man after surgery or you are a woman. .which depends on the procedure. Me, I'm a woman. Nough said.

Danni

[linda allen]

Linda, It doesn't matter what they look like or how big their features are to be a candidate for SRS. What matters most is that they have the right counseling and are fully prepared for SRS and this is what they choose. Nobody see's what you have between your legs unless you show them, so what difference should it make. As long as that person is comfortable with SRS, an they are a happier person, that's all that should matter.

My post was in response to this question: "How would you be able to tell? "

I'm not saying that someone is not a candidate for SRS because of physical characteristics, but if Hulk Hogan had SRS, it would be pretty obvious that "she" was once a "he".

Let's be realistic here. Once we walk away from our computers, we are in the "real world" and have to face real people and real situations.

[chloe23]

My post was in response to this question: "How would you be able to tell? "

I'm not saying that someone is not a candidate for SRS because of physical characteristics, but if Hulk Hogan had SRS, it would be pretty obvious that "she" was once a "he".

Let's be realistic here. Once we walk away from our computers, we are in the "real world" and have to face real people and real situations.

True Linda, but not everybody is built like Hulk Hogan, lol

[kimdl93]

ok, I have to admit to some bi experiences, so I can't technically qualify to answer. However, I would consider a post OP TS to be female, not male, so my hetero side would be fully accepting ;)

[Longing2be-Trisha]

I would say yes I would date a post-op since she is a woman.

Hugs

[wino_tg_girl]

Sure, why not? .......................

[Melody Moore]

I know some of you are bi-sexual and the answer would be more likely to be yes. But for purely Heterosexual people how do you feel about Post-Ops?

Michelle, I am a pre-op intersex trans-woman and I have no shortage of straight guys already wanting to date
me pre-op or post op. But for me personally I am not willing to even go there until I am post op, but when I do
there will be a lot of guys willing and waiting for me. I have had one guy who has been really patient with me
while I have acted like a real bitch to him at times, but he still waits eagerly in the wings as a friend. I asked
him why he felt the way he did about me and he says that he can see that I have a really good heart and am
a good person. I told him I was pre-op trans woman and he said he didn't care about that, he said he is willing
to wait and just keep being good friends for now if that is what I want and I said, "That is not just want I want,
that is just how it is going to be". I even asked him of he was bisexual and he said he was straight and that he
is attracted to me because I look like a female.

So this brings me to the point if I would even tell anyone I was trans after I have my GRS/SRS and the more I think
about it, I see no point. I don't want anymore kids and that is one thing I have made very clear to anyone who might
be interested in me. I am 48 years of age and have 3 kids already and that is all they need to know.

I must also say I am not shocked at the amount of homophobia and bigotry that has come out in some of the replies.
But I would have hoped that all of the replies would have been more accepting and less judgemental, so obviously I
am expecting a bit much - but some people here really need to grow up.

[Aprilrain]

Isn't a moot point since all CDers are gay????????????????????

[Nicole Erin]

Well if she was like cute and stuff, I would not want some dude with a vagina

[Shananigans]

1. Bisexuality has nothing to do with being more open to dating TG people. Bisexuality means you are attracted to both women and men. Sure, a bisexual person could also be open to dating TG people, but it isn't a given. For example, being bisexual does not mean that you are more accepting of CDing because it's like being "both genders at once." That is what you call a "mixed gender fetishist." These are the people that would date a pre-op TS and then lose interest in this person when she underwent SRS. Not the same. Let's keep these distinctions.

2. Transsexual women are women...pre-op, post-op, non-op. SRS surgery does not make you a woman, it just fixes a birth defect. Transsexuals have different life experiences than a GG, but they are still women. Therefore, if a man were dating a transsexual woman, this would be a heterosexual relationship. If I started dating a transsexual woman, this would be a homosexual relationship. So, going back to point #1...bisexuality has nothing to do with it, unless the TS woman in question is attracted to both men and women, or her partner is attracted to both men and women.

3. Debbie...speak for yourself and not for my gender. You have no idea what you are talking about. The women that are my friends, family, frenemies (lol) all dress fabulously and take pride in their appearance. I really don't understand where the CDs on this forum live where women just suddenly could give a sh*t less about their appearance. I need to visit under that rock. Last time I turned on the TV or picked up a magazine, there were still loads of advertisements for crap I don't need because my gender is so concerned with appearances. In my committed relationship, I weigh less than I ever have. I know that it is the egocentric ideology of men to think that women lose weight for them/to attract them, but I can assure you there are other reasons to stay fit and healthy. I KNOW...IT'S A CRAZY IDEA!!!...But, trust me!!

Furthermore, by your definition an aggressive female is "butch." Do I look butch to you? Case and point.


GGs have often been through that phase where they were pushed to be more feminine than they would like to be, and end up wanting to be able to spend less time getting ready by skipping the make-up, wearing loose pants so they don't have to shave, and may be less inclined to watch their diets over the long run, especially after marriage.

Ironically, I have found that for long-term relationships, I seem to work better with a more "butch" GG. Because she is more likely to initiate with me, and more likely to really enjoy being "in charge of it" as well as wanting to really enjoy sex, food, dance, fun, laughter, and romance.

[NathalieX66]

I'd thought I'd share my weekend with a post-op friend I met on facebook.
We have a pretty platonic friendship, and we have a lot in common. We are quite social friends, and I hope to remain so. I can definitely feel a romantic vibe from her part, but I was not ready or willing to go there. Wine makes people do strange things.
However, in the exploration of myself, I have found that I seem to be particularly interested those with child-bearing capabilities. This is where I commit myself to. Geez, I'm so boring and conventional.

I don't think this is bias. I see this as more as a family legacy issue. I want babies.....mini-me's
Do I sound selfish? You see, I am monogamous by nature, mainly because i am focused on so many things in my life , and i just need one person to be with, and i still hope to have a family. that's where I'm at in life today.
Maybe down the road, things will change. We humans are malleable and our attitudes change througout time.

I do, however, strongly recommend you get to know someone in your lifetime who is TS, or is going through some stage of transition, or has completed it. Know their struggle, and their story.

Any of your input is welcome.

[sometimes_miss]

Would I date a Post op? It would of course, depend on the person, like anything else. But there's one thing, one really big potential problem, that I think would probably prevent me from doing so. Scent. Most likely from being abused by males in the past, I find the musky male scent nauseating. I don't know if the change in hormonal state post operatively would alter that, but if not, I wouldn't be able to be intimate with someone if they smelled 'male' in any way. And yes, I know, I smell that way too, but I'm fastidious about cleanliness, and the laundry doesn't sit around. And, of course, under normal circumstances, we cannot determine our own scent. I guess you could say that those particular nerve receptors in that exact combination are constantly sort of 'exhausted' due to the continuous exposure to our own odors (well, not really, but that's the easiest way to explain it).

[RachelDenise]

I would definitely date/have a relationship with a post-op woman, if we were compatible. I like to think that it wouldn't matter.

[lovemyboobs]

I'm sorry, you were making the ability to bear your children a condition of marriage. Unless you have already had children with a woman, you can only guarantee that they meet this condition by insisting that they (and you) visit a fertility specialist and get tested. So my question stands, since you make that ability a condition of being willing to marry, would you insist that a GG go through the tests before you considered proposing?

Well the difference is that a Post Op woman has had surgery to guarantee that she will be unable to have children. It would be the same effect as if a GG had her tubes tied on purpose as to not have children. I would have to think about where things were going with her and if I wanted to have children of our own in our future.

This can be taken a step further with a GG that has had a surgery because of illness and unable to bare children. I am not saying I would not marry someone that has had gone through these tough times if I got to know them and love them then absolutely I would marry them.

Now to comment on the things that people have brought up as far as naturally being infertile. This is the surprise in life and if this were to be the case with someone that I love then this would be a stepping stone in life that we would have to over come and work through.

I guess the difference between some that has had SRS and a GG that is naturally infertile is that with an SRS patient it would obviously come up much sooner in the relationship than with a GG that I had married and later found out that we were unable to have children together.