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Sometimes Steffi
10-25-2011, 09:32 PM
Background: My wife knows I crossdress and doesn't approve, but, she doesn't know the extent of my crossdressing.

Tomorrow, I have an overnight sleep study scheduled. I've wanted to shave (at least some of) the hair on my chest so I could wear lower cut T=shirts and blouses. I was thinking that this is my opportunity. Most of my chest hair is above the nipple line. I was thinking that I could sahve what I wanted, and if my wife noticed, tell her that the technicians at the sleep clinic did it because they couldn't get the sensors to stick otherwise.

Do you think I can get away with it?

Toni Citara
10-25-2011, 09:34 PM
Do you have a sexy chest?

The kind of muscles the ladies want to slide their warm... slippery... ummmm... sorry. Lost my train of thought.

Shave, don't apologize. Women like sexy men, acknowledge and move on. Life is too short to go through decades of fear and regret, only to die at 53 broken and emotionally drained.

Renee W
10-25-2011, 09:38 PM
That's probably one of the best and truest excuses for shaving your chest. Being a veteran of sleep studies (I have obstructive sleep apnea, use a CPAP machine at night), stress tests and various heart tests, I can tell you that shaving sure beats having them yank a mess of hair off when they pull the electrodes. For the sleep test, you can even get away with shaving your legs because for mine they put pads on my legs to check/monitor leg movement.

I keep my legs and chest shaved and if anyone ever asks why, I just use the had/have a dr. visit and they normally do an EKG (or is it ECG, I forget) to check the ole ticker (I've had 2 heart attacks and have a stent inside now).

RuthM
10-25-2011, 09:40 PM
All I can think of is what is going to be your excuse/reason when you continue to shave your chest hair. If it is that important to you to shave you need to be honest with your wife, otherwise its disrespectful.

Piora
10-25-2011, 09:48 PM
Background: My wife knows I crossdress and doesn't approve, but, she doesn't know the extent of my crossdressing.

Tomorrow, I have an overnight sleep study scheduled. I've wanted to shave (at least some of) the hair on my chest so I could wear lower cut T=shirts and blouses. I was thinking that this is my opportunity. Most of my chest hair is above the nipple line. I was thinking that I could sahve what I wanted, and if my wife noticed, tell her that the technicians at the sleep clinic did it because they couldn't get the sensors to stick otherwise.
I will caution you. Make sure if you do shave SOME of it off - that you shave that area right down to smooth. I made the mistake of taking electric clippers to my chest hair - but not down to the skin - I just shortened it to about 1/4" to make it less 'hairy', but not to get rid of it entirely. Well, let me tell you....I majorly regret doing that - it is itching like crazy when my shirt comes in contact with it. I did it on Saturday and it's been driving me nuts ever since!:doh:

Cynthia Anne
10-25-2011, 11:07 PM
It sounds like the perfect excuse! Keep it shaved by saying I like it! It's cooler! It doesen't itch anymore!

Eryn
10-26-2011, 01:10 AM
I think that the best justification is "I like it that way." GGs have been using that bit of logic for decades with little argument from their SOs.

SweetPea_GG
10-26-2011, 02:18 AM
IMO don't lie. Lies only end up hurting the ones we love. Even what you may feel is a little lie or not disclosing the complete truth can still hurt someone who loves you deeply. If you truly wish to shave it then let your wife know. If she doesn't like it then it's your choice to keep it shaved or not. But lying .. I just wouldn't go there trust me lies hurt a lot even the small ones.

ReineD
10-26-2011, 02:23 AM
I'm with SweetPea on this. Please don't lie.

reese.reese
10-26-2011, 03:00 AM
I'd have to agree, lying won't help. Also, having been through it before, in my case the nurse just shaved a spot big enough for the monitor on my chest. I had two bald patches but certainly not the whole lot.

brenda b smith
10-26-2011, 04:01 AM
my so asked me not to shave my chest she says she really likes it. then she said go ahead if you want to! I think ill let her win this one lol. for right now. im ok with that but remember it will grow back if you do shave

Jorja
10-26-2011, 07:14 AM
What do you need an excuse or a lie for? Just shave and if anyone says anything about it just tell them that is the way you like it. Period!

Just Elizabeth
10-26-2011, 07:43 AM
Please, when you shave it, continue to keep it shaved. It's itchy as anything when I snuggle with my husband and he hasn't shaved his chest that day. I personally prefer a hairy chest, and facial hair, but it's not my call. It's his body. So, when you do shave it, please KEEP it shaved.

Just my two cents worth.

Oh, and don't bother lying about it. She'll know why you've done it. Show a little respect for her. And for yourself.

pinto
10-26-2011, 07:52 AM
I have got the same problem. She likes hairy chests and I don't although I am shaving the last months and she accepts it. Shaving excuse for an examination is good but what after? It grows faster than you think and having an examination every two weeks is not so easy...

GingerLeigh
10-26-2011, 07:57 AM
Ppppplllllbh, chest hair ain't nothing. I got rid of mine a long time ago. Pits and legs, now there's trouble. Excuse? You look younger without it. Hairs on the chest (and some are grey now) make me look ooolllllllllld....Shaving it partially looks really odd. Go for the gusto and get rid of it all! It looks better, even in drab. Chest hair is so... so... so nineteen seventy something! Yech!

Ginger

Tina B.
10-26-2011, 08:22 AM
Real men shave! i was in Kmart looking at hollow en stuff, and ran in to a display of mens shaver/hair trimmer, four different models, just for trimming, and shaving body hair, large attachments for the back and other large areas, and a small one for those more delicate parts, it's the big thing now, so just get in style!
Tina B.

Katie83
10-26-2011, 10:15 AM
I agree with most of the other comments, don't lie about it, cos in my experience lies only come back to you and often smack you in the face! I shave my chest, legs, armpits etc. It because i like it that way no other reason needed!
Katie

Stephanie47
10-26-2011, 10:54 AM
For some reason my chest hair, including abdomen did not start growing until a few years ago. It must have been a hormone change. It is unsightly and I routinely shave the hairs off. The hair on my legs is not pronounced either, so I can get away with a "European" look and wear hosiery. Surviving for sixty years without hardly any body hair was great. Now it is a total annoyance.

Annaliese
10-26-2011, 11:15 AM
As was said earlier just do it, your reason is short lived and what are you going to tell her when you keep shaving. If you want to shave then do it all off it chest, legs. Just do it.

bridgetta
10-26-2011, 11:51 AM
dont lie.. but shave.. its gonna grow back..

Sandra
10-26-2011, 12:02 PM
Look it's your body to do with what you want, just don't lie to your SO about it.

StarrOfDelite
10-26-2011, 12:36 PM
Real men shave! i was in Kmart looking at hollow en stuff, and ran in to a display of mens shaver/hair trimmer, four different models, just for trimming, and shaving body hair, large attachments for the back and other large areas, and a small one for those more delicate parts, it's the big thing now, so just get in style!
Tina B.

Bought a new Norelco for an elderly male relative recently, and was amazed at the number of metrosexual shaving machines on the market for men. It sure doesn't look like Kansas at Sears anymore.

Also, I agree with the "don't lie about the sleep test" line of advice. What are you going to tell the wife two or three weeks from now when it's grown-in and noticeably hairy again?

CallieH
10-26-2011, 12:50 PM
Just be honest. Getting away with it is not worth the heartache that'll happen when the truth is out. Trust me, I just went through something similar.

Marcia Polari
10-26-2011, 01:17 PM
I don't have much hair on chest and belly. My first time was waxing and never shave it. Just don't like the shaving feeling, specially when it begins to grow again.
I use no excuse.
The day I did it for the first time I told her, when we went to bed at night, that I had a surprise for her. And if she didn't like it, no problem, just a question of giving some time to re-grow.
I took off my shirt and she immediately slide her hands over my chest and said, "wow , how nice, why did you do that"? And I "just to feel the sensation of my naked skin touching your skin".
No more questions asked since.
Waxing legs is less tolerated. And armpits, forget about.

Fiona Scott
10-26-2011, 01:46 PM
I had to go for an ECG which ment I had number of bald patches where the electrodes had been attached. I also noticed it had started to go grey. I hated it so I just shaved it off. The bonus was that my wife likes to play with my nipples and it seamed to make them more sensitive and she didnt have to fight through a forrest of hair to get at them......Result all round !!!
Fiona
xxx

Elle1946
10-26-2011, 01:51 PM
Sounds like a sound reason to me. I work in a hospital and we need to shave some men before EKG's, etc.

Kittyagain
10-26-2011, 02:14 PM
When you get older and that chest hair turns gray, please shave it off or it will look like you have a shirt full of Spanish Moss. It will take years off your look. Promise!

And like the others said, be honest.

Kitty

michelle.foster
10-26-2011, 10:54 PM
My daughter asked me once why I shaved my arms and chest, I told her it was very European and I like the feel of it. Nothing more was said. I've been shaving my entire body, less my head - which I am thinking about shaving also, for years now. No one notices. I've seen men with no hair on their legs, I don't know if they went "bald" on their legs or if they shaved it. I started shaving my legs when i noticed I did have "bald spots" on my legs. The feeling was great so I kept moving up my body.
Do it for yourself, everyone else will adjust....

Misti
10-26-2011, 11:20 PM
...Do you think I can get away with it?

Steffi, that's ingenuous :doh: (had to look up the spelling even lol). I spent about 2-3 years of pulling out the hairs on my legs - one-at-a-time (ouch!) - while sitting in shorts in the evening sunset, and complaining about each-and-every-one-of-them as they departed; "those damn ugly hairs, those damn ugly hairs," before I ever got to the real thing (BTW all over my body) with her final concurrence. :doh:
Go girl, go! :devil:

Allsteamedup
10-27-2011, 05:16 AM
There are other considerations here.

My SO is not well-built. No shoulders to speak of, no real chest but barrel ribs. Without chest hair he looks....well, even less manly.

Then there is the consideration of the skin condition. If you are older you may find you have blotchy or scaly skin left unless you are prepared to do something called exfoliation. So you have to moisturise it, too.

Remember the extra showering time if you have to shave this area every day, and moisturise.
Also remember why your SO likes your chest the way it is. If she seriously likes hairy men remember she has the right to go out and find one.

And lastly, the argument isn't about shaving or not. You are doing this purely because you are a crossdresser. It is your body to do with as you like but your SO made her choice based on what she saw. You change the aesthetics,she might fancy a change, too.
In short, if you need a medical excuse to do this you are not being honest with yourself nor her. She deserves more respect.
(And possibly the opportunity to look for a new man who is hairy and gives her respect!)
Now where did you leave that razor.......?

KarynDavis
10-27-2011, 05:23 AM
Shave Away - Good, legitimate excuse!

ReineD
10-27-2011, 09:19 AM
It is your body to do with as you like but your SO made her choice based on what she saw. You change the aesthetics,she might fancy a change, too.
In short, if you need a medical excuse to do this you are not being honest with yourself nor her. She deserves more respect.
(And possibly the opportunity to look for a new man who is hairy and gives her respect!)
Now where did you leave that razor.......?

This is true. And sadly, I suspect there is more room for a willingness to please a partner at the beginning of a relationship when all is love and roses. But after a while, when the relationship settles into something that must be worked at in order for it to continue to thrive (as they all do), I can see where a CDer's priorities may change and he will choose a smooth chest over his SO's preference for the feel of a man in bed.

I've often wondered what happens to the many young GGs who post in the GG intro section all starry-eyed about being in new relationships with CDers and who just don't come back after a few months. Either they rode happily off into the sunset with their CDing bfs and they don't need any support, or things changed to the point where they've moved on from the relationship. I know this possibility is grim and I don't want to scare anyone, but what Allsteamed up says is true. Everyone has choices.

To the OP ... I think you really do have a better chance of at least getting your SO to understand why you want to shave your chest if you tell her the truth. If you don't, I think she will clue in to the other things you do to express your femininity and she will feel lied to. And perhaps turned-off.

Just Elizabeth
10-27-2011, 09:27 AM
When you get older and that chest hair turns gray, please shave it off or it will look like you have a shirt full of Spanish Moss.
Kitty

Kitty, I LOVE this!!! I remember Spanish moss from when I lived in the South as a kid.. LOL!! Now if my SO ever grows his chest hair back, I will look forward to it turning grey!!!

Thanks for the chuckle.

Just Elizabeth
10-27-2011, 09:48 AM
Originally Posted by Allsteamedup
It is your body to do with as you like but your SO made her choice based on what she saw. You change the aesthetics,she might fancy a change, too.
In short, if you need a medical excuse to do this you are not being honest with yourself nor her. She deserves more respect.
(And possibly the opportunity to look for a new man who is hairy and gives her respect!)
Now where did you leave that razor.......?


ReineD
This is true. And sadly, I suspect there is more room for a willingness to please a partner at the beginning of a relationship when all is love and roses. But after a while, when the relationship settles into something that must be worked at in order for it to continue to thrive (as they all do), I can see where a CDer's priorities may change and he will choose a smooth chest over his SO's preference for the feel of a man in bed.

Sorry I don't know how to do the multi-post quote thing...

This one hits really close to home. No, I don't want to have an affair. But how do we reconcile what I like with his desire to be hairless all over to be better able to pass, or just because it makes him feel good?? This is one of the areas that makes me feel so... helpless/frustrated/hopeless. And then all the little misunderstandings of body language being misinterpreted creep in... A sigh is interpreted to mean anger when it was really one of longing for something that one feels slipping away. One person gets huffy, the other feeds on that and emotions escalate, whether they are expressed verbally or not.. Once again, it's that magic panacea... COMMUNICATION. I wish he could just open his mouth and say what he's feeling in the moment.

Just Elizabeth

Loni
10-27-2011, 10:05 AM
I think that the best justification is "I like it that way." GGs have been using that bit of logic for decades with little argument from their SOs.

i agree with Eryn, just say you like a clean chest, legs, other. hair is gross. but i wish it would grow up top again.

.

Evana
10-27-2011, 10:14 AM
Interesting. I have been shaving my underarms for many years and I got used to it. When I go to the Dr.'s for a physical he sees it and he doesn't say anything. Also in the summer when I go swimming people must have seen it. I really would like to wax off my chest hair, though. I don't know about shaving such a large area.
Just a thought.
Angela

SarahLynn
10-27-2011, 10:44 AM
Always tell the truth, it's easier than trying to remember all the lies.

SarahLynn

SweetPea_GG
10-27-2011, 01:19 PM
Also remember why your SO likes your chest the way it is. If she seriously likes hairy men remember she has the right to go out and find one.

And lastly, the argument isn't about shaving or not. You are doing this purely because you are a crossdresser. It is your body to do with as you like but your SO made her choice based on what she saw. You change the aesthetics,she might fancy a change, too.
In short, if you need a medical excuse to do this you are not being honest with yourself nor her. She deserves more respect.
(And possibly the opportunity to look for a new man who is hairy and gives her respect!)
Now where did you leave that razor.......?

I loved your reply. Really very true these bits


If you don't, I think she will clue in to the other things you do to express your femininity and she will feel lied to. And perhaps turned-off.

been there done that....


*edit* also forgot to add. There was a time this summer all summer long when my husband continued to shave his legs. Which he told me much earlier oh I'll shave for winter a few times and let it grow for summer. Well never happened (btw I don't mind no chest hair it's the no leg or arm hair that creeps me out and turns me completely off). Anyway I caught myself looking at other men's legs all summer It's not something I typically do lol and just seeing their leg hair kinda made me happy inside to see leg hair. I missed it so much but I knew that once in bed I would have to deal once again with no leg hair. Not that I would ever ever cheat on my husband I just really enjoyed looking at men's leg hair this summer lol

Tallie
10-27-2011, 01:44 PM
I remember how nervous I was when I first shaved my body hair off. What if I had to go to the doctor or someone else notices? I quickly became more comfortable without the hair. I doubt anyone will ask but if they do, I will tell the truth, I do not like body hair. Why would I have to explain futher what I do to my body? My wife likes the way I look too.

sometimes_miss
10-28-2011, 12:35 PM
I just said it was coming in gray and it made me feel old, so I shaved it off and immediately felt much better.

Imeni
10-28-2011, 12:54 PM
What annoys me is, im a different sort of hairy man. I dont have much than a soulpatch of chest hair, cept my nipples grow hair. and it starts on my belly and goes straight down till my ankles! D=

I figured id try and shave my legs. Ick! Never again. Not only was i paaale as a vampire, as ive never actually done it before, and my skin is super sensitive, i was covered in red blotchy places where the razor got too close to the skin. But then about half way up each thigh i found myself thinking, "Where does this stop?" Even assuming I'd be comfortable trying to shave my twig and giggleberries, which, fyi, no. i refuse to scratch at them even more than usual, where do you stop then? You can't just shave your belly, can you? and who's to say that id be wanting to do this everytime i shower? :( Bleh. I'm happy being a shaggy man myself and, while i had the whole, "Does my woman care what I look like?", I remember that she loves me in a chemise and a pair of panties in bed so, a bit of natural body hair ain't a thing to sweat. ;)

Anna Lorree
10-28-2011, 12:59 PM
You and she need to come to some kind of agreement. My wife knows, and likes hairy legs. We came to the compromise that I could shave for the 6 months from late autumn through winter and to very early spring. Through late spring, summer and early autumn I do not shave my legs, chest or armpits. I do trim other areas year round, she is OK with that. I don't like not being able to shave year round, she doesn't like that I want to shave. We each get half the year the way we prefer, which is as fair as we can get it.

Anna

*Vanessa*
10-28-2011, 01:17 PM
Ya I'm with the don't lie crowd for sure. I too keep my body shaved, it looks and feels better that way and in turn I feel better about myself.

Kittyagain
10-28-2011, 01:30 PM
I started shaving under my arms when I first noticed you could see a tuft of hair with my arms down. Yuck! So I just shaved the outside edges to keep that from happening. Not long ago, I noticed in my hurry over time I shaved the whole area and must have been for sometime. Now it looks natural to me now.

Kitty

RACH99
10-28-2011, 01:46 PM
Background: My wife knows I crossdress and doesn't approve, but, she doesn't know the extent of my crossdressing.

Tomorrow, I have an overnight sleep study scheduled. I've wanted to shave (at least some of) the hair on my chest so I could wear lower cut T=shirts and blouses. I was thinking that this is my opportunity. Most of my chest hair is above the nipple line. I was thinking that I could sahve what I wanted, and if my wife noticed, tell her that the technicians at the sleep clinic did it because they couldn't get the sensors to stick otherwise.

Do you think I can get away with it?


ewwww sounds like trouble to me. First problem is your wife knows but doesn't really know. If that's the case even fessing up and telling her you intend to shave your chest could bring up more questions. Like why shave if CD-ing is such a minor thing for you? See what I mean?

And let's say you do, get a way with it, is just compounding things IMO. Like piling lies onto of lies or at the best minimizing or some other word play game. And it is a lie to mislead your wife even if you feel it's just a little one. Best bet imho is to have a heart to heart with your wife so she knows where she stands and where you are with the CD-ing.

Nope, it's sure not the easy way, but in the long term I think it'll make life better for you both. Good luck Steffi.

:hugs:

Sometimes Steffi
11-02-2011, 08:47 PM
So here's a real funny follow-up.

After my CPAP titration sleep test, I went to the Docs to get fitted for a CPAP mask. I told him the one that I used during the sleep study was very uncomfortable because it was too big for my nose. The Doc said that I had a very petite nose (I think he meant width, not length, because I have a very long nose) and he suggested that I try the "Swift FX for *Her* " CPAP mask. So I joked with the Doc and said as long as it was comfortable. I was way old enough not to worry about whether it was pink or blue (ha ha). So, when his assistant comes in to fit me for the mask, it is indeed pink.

LeaP
11-03-2011, 06:40 AM
Lying/deceiving - bad. Your body - good.

One of the things I don't understand in these discussions is why the logic doesn't work the other way 'round. I.e, GG's STOP shaving, change their dress habits, radically change their hair color and styles, maybe even get plastic surgery, tattoos, etc. All frequently on their own initiative, and without the dire relationship implications. Just sayin'.

Also, no-one's mentioned that for many who married younger, body hair changes *considerably* over the years. What the SO saw at the start of the relationship often is NOT what the husband has now! So if the issue is what she married, then maybe some hair removal is warranted! There's an aspect of resisting change in this as much as anything else.

Lea (thank GOD for a rational, understanding, loving wife!)

kristinacd55
11-03-2011, 07:13 AM
I shave up there, and my wife asked me about it. I said I like it with my tops, it does look a tad strange when there's hair below though :)

Wendi_cd
11-05-2011, 09:52 PM
I shave because I like it that way, it's also cooler and I work outside. Could care less if someone thinks it's odd.
If they press the issue, I just tell them to go watch an MTV spring break episode, none of those guys have body hair, not a single one.

sanderlay
11-06-2011, 03:37 PM
Background: My wife knows I crossdress and doesn't approve, but, she doesn't know the extent of my crossdressing.

Tomorrow, I have an overnight sleep study scheduled. I've wanted to shave (at least some of) the hair on my chest so I could wear lower cut T=shirts and blouses. I was thinking that this is my opportunity. Most of my chest hair is above the nipple line. I was thinking that I could sahve what I wanted, and if my wife noticed, tell her that the technicians at the sleep clinic did it because they couldn't get the sensors to stick otherwise.

Do you think I can get away with it?

Perhaps... for a time... but at what cost? Is your SO your best friend or not? Deceit is like a snow ball that grows and grows. Then one day it blows up in your life like a volcano that slowly simmers.

But if you continually sow the seeds of honesty and respect I think you can alleviate these traumatic life changing events. You both mutually spark the romance that brought you together in the first place. The dating never ends... and so the romance.

Honesty in my view is always the best policy in the long term.