Miss Representation on OWN

[StevieTV]

I'm currently watching a documentary on OWN called Miss Representation. It is centered around the negaive and sexual depictions of women in the media. It's interesting the struggles GG have in this day and age. As I'm watching it my feelings go from confusion, anger and sadness. My confusion comes from wanting to be more like a female but seeing how GGs are treated, I think why?

[Aprilrain]

why indeed! I have felt this way before. Its not an overwhelming feeling for me but it is there on occasion. For me the why (of why do I want to be female) is unanswerable so pointless to even ask. more important to ask how.

[Melody Moore]

I found a download of this documentary recently recorded from OWN as well after seeing
a trailer, it is really eye-opening. Brilliant work by the producers and a must see!

[Inna]

I suppose this subject reveals the boundaries of comfort some may feel and reasons galore, why not to be your true self, but resolve to THE LOGICAL choice. However, this, like many other tests is one of disregard for consequences in order to finally feel your true self and experience life as one body, one mind no matter the bigots, no matter the hurdles.

[Traci Elizabeth]

Nothing a man hates more than a woman who knows more than him and who has experienced more adventure and excitement than him in life.

I just love putting men in their place!!!!!!!

[Melody Moore]

Nothing a man hates more than a woman who knows more than him and has experienced my excitement than him in life. I just love putting men in their place!~!~
Hehehehe, this is too true.

Some of my heterosexual girlfriends turn to me for advice because they know I understand the male psyche. Even my landlord
who I have known for over 8 years and since I was a male. He can be chauvinistic at times. He was saying something really
sexist in front of me one day and I turned around and put him in his place. He said "I forgot that you were now batting for
the other side" and I said "Yeah, and don't you ever forget it". I know he has told a few people that he wouldn't like to see
me get really pissed off. So he has toned down his sexist comments a hell of a lot. Even his daughters commented about it. :heehee:

[CaptLex]

I just love putting men in their place!!!!!!!

No male-bashing please. :thumbsdn:

[Melody Moore]

Lex, some males deserve a good flogging for how they disrespect and treat women (and children), plain and simple and
trust me I have dished out a few flogging in my life to some arseholes who deserved to be put in their place for a change.

As I said on the other thread about the attitudes towards women in the 1950s, not much has changed. Women have still been put
in their place as sexual objects to be used only for the gratification and satisfaction of men and the video Miss Representation (http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?162735-Miss-Representation-on-OWN) really
hammers that point home. If you haven't seen this video, PM me and I will give you details of where you can download a copy.

Here is a trailer of the movie so some people will have some idea about what I am talking about..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gkIiV6konY

Given the fact you once were a woman Lex, I really doubt that you could really understand how bad natal males can be
and I am also 100% sure that you would be a perfect gentleman in comparison. I think FtM are really hot because they do
respect women a lot more than natal males. The same as trans women seem to respect natal males better than the natal
females do and this is the feedback of several men who are in relationships with trans women.

[Katesback]

Welcome to the world of women. Ya asked for it and ya got it. Funny thing is you go to the crossdresser side and they tout how awesome it is to be a woman but they they arent women are they. Come to the TS side and you see what its like. As I have said before after all the fireworks of transition are over and you are with luck normal you face the same shit that all women face. The grass is not as green as many think!

[ReineD]

^ Oh Kate, TSs in this section post about how fun it is to be girly in a man's world too.

This thread is a good example. While most members complained about male privilege, many still got a chuckle over finding studs to do the heavy work for them:

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?158851-Male-Privilege/page2

[Hope]

I haven't seen the documentary (though I did add it to my netflix queue) I have to say I am not surprised by the topic.

I WAS surprised... but I am no more. I honestly was surprised by how different things are on this side of the gender divide. I had imagined, as a guy, that we had achieved essential equality. Perhaps that was naiveté, willful ignorance, or just having grown up in California (Where things ARE better than they are in the mid-west) but I honestly believed that things were much better than they really are. Que sera-sera. This is only a part of the price we pay, and quite frankly, it is a small price compared to the benefit of living authentically.

And that I think is the answer to your second question. Why would you want to be a girl when the world treats girls like second class citizens? Because you are a girl. The other stuff is irrelevant to that question. You aren't doing this in order to obtain whatever perks of womanhood you perceive, you aren't doing it as the result of a process of careful deliberation about what gender is BETTER or more comfortable to live as - you are doing it because you are a girl, and nothing else really matters beyond that.

Will you, as a woman, suffer the same mistreatment every other woman suffers? Yes. And more. As trans women we live with additional stigma... But the truth is that there really is no alternative. If you are a woman - you are a woman... even the less pleasant parts.