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Lisia
11-27-2011, 09:35 PM
I have recently become quite happily reacquainted with a woman from my past, we have dated twice before, the first time being almost 18 years ago when we were both very young. Back then, when we were playing in the bedroom she would frequently ask me to put on her dresses, etc. I could see in her eyes that this was something that she would very much like.

I have been CD'ing, to some extent, since I was a child. In my high-school years I was caught once by my aunt, who I was living with at the time, and was made to feel very ashamed about it. I am sure that this didn't help, although I am not making excuses here. :)

I only let my GF put a dress on me one time back then, because I knew it was something that she very much wanted, but at the same time I was very scared of her finding out my secret. I thought that she might see that I was enjoying it, etc. At that age, I was terrified of anyone finding out, I still am now too, I suppose.

I have often thought about those times over the years, usually with regret. We dated a 2nd time about 6 years ago and I considered telling her but again was horrified at the thought of her reacting negatively. We have been seeing each other again for the past few months, and it has been phenomenal. She takes such good care of me, despite living 5 hours from here. I am positive that this is the woman I want, need to marry.

While considering the marraige question, crossdressing naturally came to mind as well. I finally decided I have to tell her, so one night over the phone I told her that I had something important to tell her but did not want to do it over the phone, as I was uncomfortable and wanted to do it face to face. She came up to visit the following weekend and asked me what it was a few times and a managed to change the subject each time. (Chicken!) :doh: It was sunday afternoon and she was to be leaving soon... I decided now is the time.

"Do you remember how you used to always try to get me to try on your clothes?" Of course she said yes. "Well... I've been wearing women's clothes and lingerie in private most of my life..." Her face just lit up. "Really?!" Followed by, "Oh baby, why didn't you ever tell me?!" I told her it was because I was terrified!

That was a couple of weeks ago, and we have been talking on the phone/skype a lot since then and she has been just unbelievably amazing about it! I told her so late in her last visit there was no time to discuss it much further. I believe now that this was a subconsciously done on purpose in case it didn't go as well as I had hoped. Anyway, to make a long story even longer, I would never have dreamed that she would react the way she has. She is incredibly excited over this, and has been gathering all kinds of stuff to bring over next weekend, wants to dress me, do my makeup, bought me a new wig today, I just can't believe my luck! We are having a dinner date at my place, where she has told me that she plans to fix me up and seduce me. :daydreaming:

I truly understand the crippling fear we all have faced, or are facing, with regards to this dilemma. Based on past history I had a feeling that telling her would be a positive thing and I was still too terrified to tell her for 18 years!? I suppose the moral of the story is, you never know, and if you have the slightest idea that your SO may be into it, it is definitely something to strongly consider. I'm no longer sure where I am going with all of this, and apologize for the length of the post; but I finally had to say something because I AM SO EXCITED! She is the most amazing woman, and I have truly struck pure gold with her, she has made me so happy and I just had to share! I am sure there are lots of things I am leaving out but this post is long enough already..

Thanks for listening!

Lisia

CloserthanthisGG
11-27-2011, 09:56 PM
You know I've always loved you, my darling. I loved you as a skater boy, as a brash headstrong young man, as an adult man, and as a woman. I love who you are no matter who you are. I posted on my intro earlier how incredibly exciting this all is, and all of the amazing adventures we will have! This is exactly what I've always wanted, and I do wish you would have told me sooner, but fate has led us here where we are for a reason. I know you don't believe in fate, but I think you're starting to. Had we not been through what we had separately, each time we've been apart, we would not have been ready for each other when we came back together. Time will tell whether the pain was worth it, but I am starting to think it was... Can't wait till I see you again! :D

Marleena
11-27-2011, 10:08 PM
This is such a great story! Now with the SO here, it's turning into a love story! All the best to both of you:)

PretzelGirl
11-27-2011, 10:09 PM
Awesome! There is nothing more to be said. Enjoy your time with each other.

ColleenCD
11-27-2011, 10:10 PM
Congratulations to you both. Now go make up for lost time!

Colleen

marlaNYC
11-27-2011, 10:18 PM
i want to hate you both, but i just can't because i'm too damn happy for you :) enjoy each other for everything you are and will be

Lisia
11-27-2011, 10:20 PM
I don't remember who said it, but I'm going to have to repeat it: "Why does my keyboard look so blurry all of a sudden?!" :D Thank you all!

*Vanessa*
11-27-2011, 10:25 PM
what a nice sweet story Lisia

Missy Tanya
11-27-2011, 10:27 PM
It makes you think, What if!!! So glad for you both. I think the time apart and both of you coming back together was good. Now make up for lost time and get prettied up together..

Tanya

Jenniferathome
11-27-2011, 10:50 PM
Well done Lisia. Living without the secret is better than you can imagine.

josee
11-27-2011, 10:51 PM
You really have struck gold with this one. Better not let her get away. Thanks for your story. Very happy for you two.

DanaR
11-27-2011, 10:57 PM
What a wonderful story. I wish you both the best.

Suzette Muguet de Mai
11-27-2011, 11:04 PM
Yikes, this is so unfair. So lucky, u are so very lucky.

Stefanie_in_Mt
11-27-2011, 11:06 PM
congrats to the both of you, have a great adventure. great story

LIKETODRESS2
11-28-2011, 01:03 AM
Good to hear she like it hope everthing works out for you two

Lorileah
11-28-2011, 01:07 AM
Wow, you two. Go with it, enjoy each other. A relationship like that is hard to find. Hold each other close. I had a relationship like that. She loved both of my sides :) I wish you many many years together

Veronica 1
11-28-2011, 01:15 AM
Aww, this just brings tears to my eyes. It is so wonderful that you have found each other and it brings hope to the rest of us who are still searching for that special someone. I truly wish the best for the both of you and hope that you find happiness with each other.

Rachel Flowers
11-28-2011, 01:45 AM
Well done you two! Don't regret the lost time, focus on enjoying the present and building a future. xx

GemmaB
11-28-2011, 01:54 AM
That's a truly wonderful story :) I hope you two have a fantastic time together! xx

bridget thronton
11-28-2011, 01:54 AM
My very best wishes that you both find the happiness you seek

erickka
11-28-2011, 06:19 AM
Too cool! A love story playing out for all of us to share in. All my best to both of you, and may you both find the happiness you both so deserve.

Beth Wilde
11-28-2011, 06:42 AM
A wonderful and uplifting post from both of you. I'm sitting here with a big grin on my face now. As others have said, don't regret the past, look to the future which appears to have a rosy glow on the horizon for both of you. Wishing you all the very best for a happy future!

lady di
11-28-2011, 06:51 AM
a fancy come true i do not understand why more GG's don't want to have fun with us?

monalisa
11-28-2011, 07:41 AM
Reminded me of the movie Love Story. Hurry up and propose to her and invite us all to come to the wedding - dressed of course.

Jill Devine
11-28-2011, 07:44 AM
How cool is this thread? One of the best we've seen because it's kind of evolving right before our eyes. This is better than HBO. Popcorn please!

Tina B.
11-28-2011, 07:50 AM
The sweetest story yet! You two are a novel, that should be written. forget about the 18 years of keeping a secret, and enjoy the future learning all about this side of each other, what a prefect match! Thanks for sharing it with us.
Tina B.

jillleanne
11-28-2011, 07:51 AM
Well the least the mods here could do is add some music to this story, not that I need it to shed the tears of joy runniing down my face. Good luck to you both in the future. Keep the lines of communication open and all will be fine. Now, what did I do with Barbara Striesands' phone number........

linda allen
11-28-2011, 08:35 AM
This is great and my best wishes to both of you.

kimdl93
11-28-2011, 09:16 AM
Very best wishes to both of you. I truly believe that there are many women out there who not only accept but genuinely enjoy a partner that can share and express this part of herself. Its not always easy to find each other, and sometimes, as in your case, the biggest obstacle is that fear of rejection that all of us (CD or not) have inside. So glad that the two of you stayed in touch and finally overcame that last obstacle.

anonymousinmaryland
11-28-2011, 09:55 AM
If this is fact and not fiction, can't wait for the book!

Daphne Renee
11-28-2011, 10:05 AM
What a great story. I am so glad you shared. I am extremely happy for the both of you.

Jenny Doolittle
11-28-2011, 10:39 AM
Oh My goodness, I love it when a love stories unfolds right in front of us.


You know I've always loved you, my darling. I loved you as a skater boy, as a brash headstrong young man, as an adult man, and as a woman. I love who you are no matter who you are. I posted on my intro earlier how incredibly exciting this all is, and all of the amazing adventures we will have! This is exactly what I've always wanted, and I do wish you would have told me sooner, but fate has led us here where we are for a reason. I know you don't believe in fate, but I think you're starting to. Had we not been through what we had separately, each time we've been apart, we would not have been ready for each other when we came back together. Time will tell whether the pain was worth it, but I am starting to think it was... Can't wait till I see you again! :D

Lisia
11-28-2011, 11:09 AM
Thank you everyone for all the well wishes, with the exception of one who feels it may be fiction, that is. ;) I would have never had told her without having read all of the inspirational and moving stories from so many of you. This forum has been such a blessing, I am so happy I found it!

docrobbysherry
11-28-2011, 11:38 AM
How wonderful for u, Lisia!
However, I can't help wondering WHY she's so excited about dressing u up? Does it turn her on? Is she possibly bi or bi curious? Does she want to turn u into her own "living doll"? What has she been up to the last 18 years?

WARNING FOR ALL! Learn from Lisia's experience! NEVER tell anyone, "I have something very important to tell u"! Unless you're going to do it immediately! Saying that simply increases the tension for u both!

Lisia
11-28-2011, 11:56 AM
We were not out of touch for the entire 18 years, and being turned on definitely is part of it. As to the other questions, I think I will let my lovely gf reply to them. :) All I will say is that I love her, trust her completely, and want to spend the rest of my life with her.

pantywaver
11-28-2011, 12:21 PM
That is a great story. I wish you both a wonderful future.

Danielle_cder
11-28-2011, 12:55 PM
Rock on girl! Just goes to show ya there are gg's out there that really enjoi us! Make sure she knows just how rare and special she is.

Lorileah
11-28-2011, 12:58 PM
However, I can't help wondering WHY she's so excited about dressing u up? Does it turn her on? Is she possibly bi or bi curious? Does she want to turn u into her own "living doll"? What has she been up to the last 18 years?

Yeow! This sounds exactly like when a GG finds out her SO likes to dress. "Why?" "Why do you?" I thought I was the cynic. Maybe she just loves Lisia and the clothing and the interaction is just part of loving her. I am glad I didn't worry about when the other shoe would drop in my relationship. It may not have turned out the way I planned it but the ride was well worth it.

Lisia remember the old song...."Sha la lala lala ...live for today." Tomorrow holds it's own surprises and you don't get re-rides

Holly
11-28-2011, 01:25 PM
Well, I must add my congratulations to the two of you as well and that you are most fortunate to have found one another... not for Amanda's acceptance of Lisia's TG life, or Lisia's courage in being truthful with Amanda, but but for having a mutual love of one another and the ability to accept each other for who you are and not for who you would like them to be. With the attitudes you are both bringing into this relationship, you can expect to be happily together for many, many years!

Ginger
11-28-2011, 09:55 PM
All the best, you really have a Golden Girl there !!!
Ginger

Ressie
11-28-2011, 10:34 PM
Just think, if you had been born in the fifties there's a big chance that you would have kept the secret your whole life. Congratulations on coming out and I wish you both a wonderful life together.

CloserthanthisGG
11-29-2011, 12:00 AM
How wonderful for u, Lisia!
However, I can't help wondering WHY she's so excited about dressing u up? Does it turn her on? Is she possibly bi or bi curious? Does she want to turn u into her own "living doll"? What has she been up to the last 18 years?

WARNING FOR ALL! Learn from Lisia's experience! NEVER tell anyone, "I have something very important to tell u"! Unless you're going to do it immediately! Saying that simply increases the tension for u both!


Oh, but Sherry, there are many many reasons that I love it! :)

I have a clothes fetish, I suppose you could say... I am not a fashionista, I do not follow trends... but I love all things womanly in every part of dress. I love and collect real silk stockings and fully fashioned nylons. I love vintage shoes and dresses from the 30's and 40's. I get excited about corsets and bras and underwear... I love the ritual of dressing, of presenting yourself as something beautiful, as art. I love becoming, for a while, something different. It's why I got into Live Action Role Playing games, and appreciate cosplay. But I have found over my decades, that dressing up (my absolute favorite pastime... I don't even own a TV!) is more like bringing out another aspect within yourself than it is like pretending to be something different.

I have closets full of costuming pieces. I love renaissance festivals, and go to plays mostly for the costuming. I love Halloween and theme weeks at work that allow dressing up. I will dress as a man or a woman, and usually no one will recognize me. But they're all pieces of me. They're all things I want to be and admire in some way. The Ani Difranco song "31 flavours" comes to mind...

That being said... I do not want to make Lisia a "living doll" at all. I want to help the man I love become discover and become more comfortable with all of the pieces inside of him, be they masculine or feminine. I want to make love to all of them. I have yet to see him dressed in person as a woman... only over skype... but when I see him, I see another side... I realize now I was seeing it before too.. It's difficult to explain, but it's part of why I had asked him several times over the past 18 years to wear a dress for me. I have some level of empathy and I saw something in him that maybe needed to be brought out, something uncomfortable but unnecessarily so.

I have long been vocal about how I think that it is unfair and unfortunate that those who are born male are not allowed by society to openly express so many aspects of what must be natural instincts of any human who has any sort of emotion, including the manner in which they are allowed to acceptably dress. Seeing a room full of polo shirts actually makes me angry or sad. I believe that the articles people choose to adorn themselves say so much about who they are and It is so hard for me to imagine that so many people would have so little to say about themselves.

Except for maybe some fantasies and role playing in the bedroom that I may be planning for the next weekend I visit, I do not wish to choose what Lisia may wear. :) Only offer advise and experience and opinions. I want to see what Lisia may have to say to me about herself by herself. It's much more interesting that way I think.

But to answer your questions: Seeing the man I love wearing sexy underthings is ABSOLUTELY a turn on. I'm sure in the exactly the same way that seeing me in them is a turnon for him... Because my choice in wearing a VS lacy silky panty and giving him a peek shows entirely where my mind is and what I'm after. Just like my eye contact while doing so would say the same thing. I am very remarkably visually stimulated for a woman, and there is quite unfortunately no male equivalent to a VS bra and panty set. I have no boundaries set in my mind that say that the man I love can't wear something that is sexy and feel as sexy as I do in it. I am totally IN LOVE with the idea of us both being able to express these things in such new ways to each other now!! And talk about them... and send pictures... *GIGGLE*

Also, I have considered myself bi for a very long time. But none of my relationships with men or women ever worked out long term. With most men, there was just something missing. With women, well, I just love the man parts to much. There's just nothing like it the real thing. But I also love the boobies. :) I now think I realize what was missing the whole time. Lisia and I are just too complicated to settle for something simple.

Also, In Lisia's defense... :) When we had that conversation, it wasn't presented over the phone as "something urgent", it was more like "I have a secret that I want to share with you that no one in the world knows... but it needs to be in person. Remind me when you get here"... so really, it was just to commit to the idea of telling me while over the phone because he knew he would chicken out once I got there, and if he said "i have a secret I want to share with you" there was no way I wasn't going to bring it up repeatedly... :) hahahhha! But it worked out well I think. ;)

Apologies for the long post, but that was fun! :D:D Much love to all reading this!

Lisia
11-29-2011, 12:12 AM
Dear god. I love this woman. :)

CloserthanthisGG
11-29-2011, 12:39 AM
Maybe she just loves Lisia and the clothing and the interaction is just part of loving her. I am glad I didn't worry about when the other shoe would drop in my relationship. It may not have turned out the way I planned it but the ride was well worth it.

It has taken me all of my 34 years to understand the wisdom and truth of that statement. You are so right, life is an amazing adventure and is so beautiful even with all its pain. I worry a lot about things... but I am so trying to be able to just let go of the worries.

There is so much more to the story. It really should be a book, I think... But we are both appreciative of the time we have. And maybe, if there is re-incarnation, we'll be crickets or butterflies next time and still find each other somehow. :)

Eryn
11-29-2011, 01:19 AM
Hmm, is it still Pink Fog if both parties have it? :)

Congratulations to you both. It sounds like you have a great adventure ahead! :)

Eryn

Lisia
11-29-2011, 01:56 AM
Hmm, is it still Pink Fog if both parties have it? :)

Congratulations to you both. It sounds like you have a great adventure ahead! :)

Eryn


HA! I love this. Thank you, and I believe you are correct!

DebbieL
11-29-2011, 02:16 AM
One in three women experience domestic violence in some form. For many such women, the idea of a nice sweet gentle man in very attractive. They may have bisexual desires or fantasies as well. The irony is that they may be scared to death to approach a man and ask him to dress, because they are afraid he will be threatened. Some men may get so threatened that they actually get violent. Meanwhile, CD and TG men often first try dressing when they are very young, and are verbally, emotionally, and physically abused.

Sadly, many couples can go years tap dancing around each other, wishing they could be honest with their partners, and scared to death that they will hurt each other. Sometimes, when the truth does come out, the anger is not the dressing, but at how long they suffered worrying only to find out that it's what their partners wanted all along.

Unfortunately, many TGs overcompensate to protect themselves. They get bullied for being a "sissy", so they beef up, body building, acting extra macho, trying to be more masculine, and trying to hide all traces of their TG or CD desires, compartmentalizing their lives. They manage to attract a woman who is drawn to the masculine persona, and reinforce it. After months, years, or even decades, they FINALLY reveal their hidden identities - and wonder why their wives aren't terribly accepting.

Myst
11-29-2011, 05:00 AM
A beautiful story and congrats to you both!

Maria in heels
11-29-2011, 05:54 AM
You know, the more I read the more I can understand why the two if you have been on and off for years. I truly do believe in souulmates...it can take a lifetime for you to find that person, and unfortunately, many do not. It is clear that the two of you belong together, need each other, and most imoportantly ARE each others soulmate...

Welcome to the club....

CloserthanthisGG
11-29-2011, 08:17 AM
One in three women experience domestic violence in some form. For many such women, the idea of a nice sweet gentle man in very attractive. They may have bisexual desires or fantasies as well. The irony is that they may be scared to death to approach a man and ask him to dress, because they are afraid he will be threatened. Some men may get so threatened that they actually get violent. Meanwhile, CD and TG men often first try dressing when they are very young, and are verbally, emotionally, and physically abused.

Sadly, many couples can go years tap dancing around each other, wishing they could be honest with their partners, and scared to death that they will hurt each other. Sometimes, when the truth does come out, the anger is not the dressing, but at how long they suffered worrying only to find out that it's what their partners wanted all along.

Unfortunately, many TGs overcompensate to protect themselves. They get bullied for being a "sissy", so they beef up, body building, acting extra macho, trying to be more masculine, and trying to hide all traces of their TG or CD desires, compartmentalizing their lives. They manage to attract a woman who is drawn to the masculine persona, and reinforce it. After months, years, or even decades, they FINALLY reveal their hidden identities - and wonder why their wives aren't terribly accepting.

Wow, this whole post makes so much sense. Yes, I do agree with all of this. There was abuse in my past, and I've always been attracted to men who are softer, or women. I try to be as open of a book as possible though, because I hate to think that I'm wasting any part of my life... Thanks for sharing this. :)



I'm trying. :D Unfortunately, I have a tendency to be a little wordy so one big post takes up all of my evening. heheheh....

Jenny Doolittle
11-29-2011, 10:31 AM
Lisia and your lovely GF,

Oh my Lisia, your GF could not explain any better how it feels to be a CD. Her wonderfully detailed description of how she feels is so much how I feel and her desires are mine. I can understand why you have gone back to her 3 times now and I am so happy that you have found the nerve to be honest with her. I can see a beautiful life long relationship for you both. Congratulations.

Corsetgrl
11-29-2011, 09:10 PM
Lisia,
Your story is absolutely amazing...hang on to that woman she is worth her weight in gold. Keep her happy and I am sure she will keep you happy. Your story is great and amazing and I am sure will give so many other girls hope.

Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I have a very similar story...Fairly recently I have gotten divorced from my wife of 14 years. She was never keen about my dressing even though she knew about it long before we got married. At best she kind of tolerated it. Funny how the level of acceptance was a moving target and changed depending on her caprice. Literally it would go from you can dress as long as you don't wear my clothes...(they would have never fit anyway...she was a lot bigger than me) to you can't dress at all, and then to you can dress but I don't want to know about it. Needless to say this was all very frustrating! Finally after years of dealing with this and other behaviours I had enough and had a collapse, said a lot of things that I could not take back. In the end I think it has all worked out for the best. Needless to say for me the relationship was over a long time ago.

Sadly and maybe this may speak volumes about my fidelity??? A number of years ago an old friend contacted me. I had met her about 25 years ago when I lived in Colorado...at the time she was dating my room-mate, from our first conversation I knew that I would be with this woman some day. Eventually we bacame good friends but in my mind she was off limits because of my room mate. After months of soul searching I planned to leave Colorado in order to allow her and my room mate to have space but at that time the writting for their relationship was on the wall. My lady friend and I went to a movie the week I was to leave, for the whole movie her had was so close I just wanted to hold it. Even though I knew my room mate did not treat her well and their relationship was about to collapse I just could not make the leap and hold that hand. Later than week I left...as the U-Haul was driving away my lady friend was standing in the street waving...I found out later that she was crying.

For almost a year she kept sending me letters asking me to move back. Just shy of a year later I had a job opportunity to go back for two and a half months. My first visit was to her, at her job she had just started. I told her that I would move back but only on the terms that we could have a relationship...

She told me, "I don't think I can do that."

I didn't ask any questions I just turned and walked away.

We exchanged birthday phone calls for a few years even after she married. Eventually a few years later she moved and we lost touch. Imagine my surprise when a few years ago as my own marriage was collapsing I get a strange email from a name I don't recognize asking if I am so and so... It turns out that it was my lady...she has been a great friend all through my divorce and even encouraged me to stick things out for my young kids. In the end things happened as they were meant to work out and my divorce was finalized.

Not long after my divorce was finalized I went to visit my her. It had been twenty five years since we had seen each other...over all that time the magic was still there. She had divorced years earlier. It was as if we had never parted. To be honest the only thing I could compare it to would be "Lovesong" (the cover) by Adele. Even though she is a half a continent away, 1200+ miles, we have seen eachother a number of times since. On my third visit I finally worked up the courage to tell her about my crossdressing...I had been dressing even when we had known each other that life time before. So, we talked, I told her I had some thing to tell her that I could not say any other time over the phone or anything else but in person. I told her about my dressing and how long I had been doing it. She asked why I had taken so long to tell her. The she removed her shirt, took off mine. Removed her bra and put it on me. I won't go into what happened next but it was bliss, what I have always wanted.

I thought long and hard before my next visit....went out and bought a ring. For my next visit I asked her to share her life with me...for us to grow old together. She accepted!!! I truly feel as if I am the luckiest man in the world.

I get to spend 4-6 weeks with her this spring. She has told me that we will play dress up while I am there. Whether it happens or not, I am finally with a person who can accept me for the person that I am..I am with my soulmate, my immortal beloved. Yes, I plan on keeping her...and keeping her a very happy lady...

Lisia
11-29-2011, 10:28 PM
Don't worry about taking the wind from anyone's sails, that is a great story and I am happy for you both! Looks like you may be moving soon?! Take good care of her!


Lisia and your lovely GF,

Oh my Lisia, your GF could not explain any better how it feels to be a CD. Her wonderfully detailed description of how she feels is so much how I feel and her desires are mine. I can understand why you have gone back to her 3 times now and I am so happy that you have found the nerve to be honest with her. I can see a beautiful life long relationship for you both. Congratulations.

Thank you for this! And I believe you are correct. :) She makes me so happy, I feel closer to her than ever before and can't wait for us to spend our lives together! :D

PaulaJeanette
11-30-2011, 03:19 AM
Lisia and Corsetgrl,

As I read this thread and each of your responses, I kept wondering about the time each of you spend with your respective ladies. When dressed, are you always wearing wigs and makeup to present as women from head to toe? Or are you dressed and only female from the neck down? What are their thoughts or reactions? Yours?

My wife is aware I crossdress and has only seen me dressed in lingerie, pantyhose, and 4" heels once for only a few seconds. At the time, I was not wearing either a wig nor makeup. So, what she saw was her husband's face and head on what appeared to be a woman's body in lingerie. This in-congruent duality is what bothers me the most when I consider dressing in her presence or for her.

I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts or experiences on this. Thanks.

Lisia
11-30-2011, 05:36 PM
Lisia and Corsetgrl,

As I read this thread and each of your responses, I kept wondering about the time each of you spend with your respective ladies. When dressed, are you always wearing wigs and makeup to present as women from head to toe? Or are you dressed and only female from the neck down? What are their thoughts or reactions? Yours?

My wife is aware I crossdress and has only seen me dressed in lingerie, pantyhose, and 4" heels once for only a few seconds. At the time, I was not wearing either a wig nor makeup. So, what she saw was her husband's face and head on what appeared to be a woman's body in lingerie. This in-congruent duality is what bothers me the most when I consider dressing in her presence or for her.

I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts or experiences on this. Thanks.

We have not actually seen each other since I revealed my secret, she lives 5 hours from me, but we are hoping to see each other this weekend, big plans! Perhaps we should take a picture to commemorate the occasion. ;)

Corsetgrl
11-30-2011, 09:17 PM
Lisia and Corsetgrl,

As I read this thread and each of your responses, I kept wondering about the time each of you spend with your respective ladies. When dressed, are you always wearing wigs and makeup to present as women from head to toe? Or are you dressed and only female from the neck down? What are their thoughts or reactions? Yours?

My wife is aware I crossdress and has only seen me dressed in lingerie, pantyhose, and 4" heels once for only a few seconds. At the time, I was not wearing either a wig nor makeup. So, what she saw was her husband's face and head on what appeared to be a woman's body in lingerie. This in-congruent duality is what bothers me the most when I consider dressing in her presence or for her.

I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts or experiences on this. Thanks.

I have visited my very special lady one time since I told her my secret...As of yet she has not seen me dressed. Though I may get to visit her for a prolonged period of time while I am on sabbatical. She has told me that we will get to play dress up then...we will see I am not holding my breath. I have sent her some pictures and she thinks that I have got a look going on. We are the same size and on my last visit I had to fix her closet, she has some amazing clothes, and she did tell me I could wear what ever I wanted and she even had some suggestions for me. We are about the same size...I think I am one size larger than she is...She is, I think a six and I am an eight, but I can squeeze if need be. The sad thing is that she has bigger feet than me..she is a 9.5 and I am a womans 7.5-8 depending on the heel.
My ex saw me a few times but I revolted her and actually made her ill.

Lisia
11-30-2011, 10:36 PM
It sounds like she is receptive, at the very least. Hang in there, I have a feeling things might work out better this time around. :)

CloserthanthisGG
11-30-2011, 11:11 PM
We have not actually seen each other since I revealed my secret, she lives 5 hours from me, but we are hoping to see each other this weekend, big plans! Perhaps we should take a picture to commemorate the occasion. ;)

PaulaJeanette,

I just wanted to add that I even though we haven't seen each other in person yet since the secret revelation, I have seen my Lisia on Skype many times since then... sometimes a wig, sometimes not... never makeup. At first it was a bit odd to see the body of a woman with the head of my man. "Incongruous" is a good word. But it was not a bad thing, even at first, it just seemed like I was looking at an unfinished sculpture. That was the impression that I got. But after a while, I realized that I was looking at what was essentially myself on a lazy weekend day... relaxed and comfortable but sexual. Also, I like androgyny. But androgyny is more like a lack of strong identifying sexual characteristics. What Lisia looked like to me half dressed is excessively multi-sexed. Instead of lacking prominent displays of gender identifiers, there was an excess of almost all of them. Again this was odd at first, but then after a while, it became something else. I'm not exactly sure what, but I am comfortable with it. :) With the wig, maybe it's in my head, but I can see Lisia acting a bit more feminine.

I wore a wig today to work for the past two days for the first time that was not as part of a costume. I could feel myself unintentionally acting a bit more like I would imagine a person who has that hair to act. It was an interesting experience. What was more interesting, was that no one really acted like there was a difference in the way I acted. Everyone realized it was me, but with different hair. I think this should be considered true for anyone who wears any outfit or any wig or any makeup. They're the same underneath, just demonstrating different nuances of their personalities.

I like new experiences. This is definitely new to me. But also... strangely familiar in some subconscious way. :D

Jenny Doolittle
12-01-2011, 09:25 AM
So nice to hear your thoughts about how you see your love. It is so interesting to be a part of this discussion. What I am hearing you say is a description of not the articles of clothing that defines a persons gender, but a look into their soul and what it is that has you feeling love for that person.

Thanks for that glimpse into your heart!

Dixie
12-01-2011, 10:14 AM
I think that it is so wonderful that you two have found each other. My ex-wife was so accepting but as time went on I found out that she was this way only because she had other motives. When I told her I was uncomfortable with this role, and that it wasn't me she was through. I too have recently been contacted by an old girlfriend (my one truelove?) she divorced but is remarried. We have poured out our hearts to each other but because she is married to a friend of mine I will never act. It's kinda sad really but I figure if it was meant to be it will work out. The hard part is, I don't think she will be one bit understanding about this side of me. However our daughter probably would. I have not worked up the courage to tell her yet but it is something that I want to do.

TxKimberly
12-03-2011, 04:48 PM
ROFL - You are one very lucky son if a gun! Oh, and now I see from her post that she is cute too! ;)

Ediosa
12-03-2011, 05:12 PM
ditto, to what kim said.