Would most men CD under the right circumstances

[Sometimes Steffi]

There's this old joke that a man asks this beautiful woman if she would go to bed with him for a million dollars. The woman responds, "yes."

Then the man asked the woman if she would go to bed with him for $100. She responds, "What kind of a girl do you think I am?"

His response is, "We already established that. Now we're just negotiating the price."

So the question is, are all men crossdressers to some degree?

This thread

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?164534-So...I-finally-told-my-GF.

Also got me thinking about the conditions under which men may CD.

I think many of us CDs have been in a position where we had the opportunity to CD, say for a GF, or Halloween party or some other sanctioned event that provided plausibile deniability, but we decided not to, mostly out of fear.

And many of us later regretted it.

But I was wondering about the average run-of-the-mill GM. What percent of them would CD, if given a chance, under the right circumstances. I think many typical men would love the opportunity to experiment with crossdressing, if their fears were alleviated, or if they were sufficiently motivated.

I think most men would consent to putting on a panty, and maybe a bra or more, if they knew they were going to get lucky, if you know what I mean, as a result. I think they would be even more motivated if they knew for an absolute certainty that no one else would ever, ever find out.

I think a lot of men are curious about women's clothing and makeup. I think a lot of men would crossdress as an experiment if they could be assured absolutely that no one else would ever find out, particulary, if they would look hot.

What do you think?

[AllieSF]

I think that you are right. Now, I do not know nor think that "most" GM's would want to try some form of CDing. I may have been predispositioned to crossdress all my life. I don't really know, only the Shadow knows. However, I had the opportunity to dress for a costume party and I did and, naturally, loved every moment of it. Now at that time 31 years ago the thrill was the costume and the alter ego that I portrayed that night in front of everyone, from having the guys, who knew I was a guy, buying me drinks all night and occasionally fast dancing with me, to using the women's restroom with my secretary as my escort every time I needed to go. What happened after that super fun moment in my life regarding crossdressing? NOTHING! I went back to my normal life and never really thought about dressing as a woman until 5 years ago.

[sometimes_miss]

They might do it for monetary gain, or something like that. They wouldn't do it for the reasons WE do it. Either you're a crossdresser, or you're not. People who do it for a living have no gender or sexual connection to the clothes. We do. Which is not to say that there aren't crossdressers that work as female impersonators; I'm sure there are. But when you saw Patrick Swayze dress up in the movie, you can be pretty sure it was as a professional act. Same with Milton Berle.

[GeminaRenee]

My first urge was to say "no way!" But after some thought, I realized that I was basing the answer only on what other men have allowed me to perceive about them. There are all kinds of people carrying a freak card, no doubt. I'll bet there's a significant chunk that would do it out of curiosity, or based on the same electrifying undercurrents that so many of us have tapped into - given the caveat that nobody would ever find out.

As to the reasons why, I'm sure an even broader number would do it purely for money, to boost a career, etc, etc. Those aren't the people I'm talking about, nor I'm sure the people the OP was asking about. There are certainly more guys than you would expect that would do it "for the reasons we do." But I don't think those reasons are as clearly defined as some might think. I think in a basic sense, we all do it because of some deep, basic root force - without saying that that force manifests itself, or that we all perceive that force as having the same meaning. it's irrelevant, really. And defining CD or whatever is basically irrelevant also. It helps us and some others put a basic handle on things, like calling a color blue or red to place it at a relative position on a spectrum. But we're still all a part of a continuum of gender-description. Some are just more in tune with it than others, and some are just more willing to acknowledge it than others.

[Joanne f]

No i do not think most men would , you might get some that would do it for a joke or a laugh or a dare , most men are happy being just ordinary men , what ever that is :doh:

[suzy1]

I think that believing that most men would C.D. if they could is just a away of making us feel better about doing it.
The reality is probably no.

Not that I need to feel better about it obviosely.


SUZY

[Melody1985]

Yeah, I think most men would experiment CDing under the circumstances you laid out. Some would do it more after I think. A few others will be confused and not know what to do about it, but I think at least close to half would never do it again, even though they probably would have fun.

[Kaz]

Sadly, I know too many men who regard this is a perversion and would never have anything to do with it. These people tend to be devoid of imagination and are very much in the boys club. Having said sadly, I am not so sure... I am kinda glad they aren't in my club!

[Nigella]

99.9% of men would "dress up" in some form or another, for one reason or another, but no most GMs would not crossdress, it is either in you or its not, it is not something you just do.

[Mrs Roads]

GM? Sorry I'm still quite new to the wonderful world of CD and not familiar with that one...

But to answer your question, I think personally "all" men have feminine side but they're just afraid to let it out due to so-called social norms and acceptable behavior between the genders. If people or men can get over that fear and the social rearing instilled into our psyche from a very young age regarding our gender roles, then yes, I think a lot of men would experiment at the very least and I think many would discover the pleasure in CD.

[MissMarcie]

I think many typical men would love the opportunity to experiment with crossdressing, if their fears were alleviated, or if they were sufficuently motivated.

Absolutely NO WAY. Normal men have ZERO desire to wear female clothing.

[Barbara Ella]

I believe that the comment that most males are intrigued is correct, if as is stated here there is a bit of femme in all GM (genetic Male). Would most cross dress, no, as I believe the amount of femme present varies, and most do not have sufficient femme essence to get it going. I really do believe that they would be intrigued, and not in a sexual way, but the curiosity way. Thank god we have enough, as i do not think I could just be curious again.

Babes

[Karren H]

They would.... Only if they all lost a bet....

[Princess Chantal]

Absolutely NO WAY. Normal men have ZERO desire to wear female clothing.

Gee I fall within my description as a normal male and lookie I wear female clothing without it being a bet.... So YES WAY!!!!!!!

However, I doubt that a high percentage of men would go through with their curiousity (if they had any)

[Rachel Flowers]

"all" men have feminine side but they're just afraid to let it out due to so-called social norms

With you on that one, Mrs R!


PS You can't be "under" circumstances, you have to be "in" them. Circum means "around" and you can't be under something that's around you, you have to be in it. You could be under superstances, but there's no such word. OK, rant over!


Normal men have ZERO desire to wear female clothing.

Marcie!

1) What is "normal"? Your sentence is only true if you define "normal" as "never desiring to wear whatever currently passes as women's clothing in the country you were raised in" which makes the whole thing a tautology anyway.

2) Where did you get this belief from? Is there some research you read? A TV documentary?

As others have said on this page, what keeps most men from trying on a nice pair of tights or a lovely satin blouse is fear. Fear they'll "turn gay" or lose their job / wife / friends / status. The same fears that kept most of us in the closet for sooo long.

Or were you being ironic, because if so, we need an icon for irony asap please mods!!

[Jenniferathome]

No. The vast majority of men would find no joy in cross dressing. Only us few, unique, men are cross dresser material. We are wired differently

[Piora]

GM? Sorry I'm still quite new to the wonderful world of CD and not familiar with that one...

Genetic Male


But to answer your question, I think personally "all" men have feminine side but they're just afraid to let it out due to so-called social norms and acceptable behavior between the genders. If people or men can get over that fear and the social rearing instilled into our psyche from a very young age regarding our gender roles, then yes, I think a lot of men would experiment at the very least and I think many would discover the pleasure in CD.

Hmmm. I'm with those who think that most 'average' men wouldn't crossdress. Even to experiment. It's just not something that's built into most men, they way it is with us. Some men might have some traits that could be considered feminine, such as being more sensitive and less 'macho' than the norm, but to actually pull on a frilly or lacy pair of panties? Slip on a slinky cocktail dress, pantyhose and heels? Put on makeup, a wig? Nope, ain't gonna happen.


Jenniferathome said:
No. The vast majority of men would find no joy in cross dressing. Only us few, unique, men are cross dresser material. We are wired differently.

Good explanation, Jennifer. That's exactly it. "Wired differently" is how I see myself and most others like me.

[Krista1985]

I agree with the original poster when they say,

"I think most men would consent to putting on a panty, and maybe a bra or more, if they knew they were going to get lucky, if you know what I mean, as a result. I think they would be even more motivated if they knew for an absolute certainty that no one else would ever, ever find out."

The keys here are there is something in it for them (getting laid) and nobody will ever find out (besides their partner.) Most if not all men in that situation would bite the bullet and do it. I've done stranger things to get laid, true story. But they would probably not keep going back to the panty drawer for more on their own. They wouldn't have the same drive to try it on their own that we have. And while dressed, they wouldn't feel whatever indescribable feeling we feel when dressed up. So it'd be more a means to an end than an introduction. Although I suspect that there are a minority out there that might feel their TG mojo begin to stir after an experience like that. We all start somewhere! Still I expect that be the exception and not the rule.

[docrobbysherry]

Yes!
Absolutely NO WAY. Normal men have ZERO desire to wear female clothing.

Unless they're homophobic, the AVERAGE, (not "normal"), guy would wear ladies things for a prank or a lark! And, get NOTHING from the experience!:brolleyes:

I dressed for a big Halloween party many years before I began dressing. My ex and I changed genders. We got drunk, someone popped one of my boobs, made the contest finals, had a great time, and promptly forgot all about it the next day!:straightface:

It wasn't until YEARS after I began dressing that I even remembered I did that! It was a complete NON-EVENT at that time in my life. I may as well have gone dressed as Barney! And, I'm pretty sure that's what the average Joe would experience, too!

NOTHING except "wearing a COSTUME"!:sad:

[SuzanneBender]

I agree with Stephie. People will really push the limits if the motivation is right. Most GMs I know would not only wear a bra and panties, but they would also bungee jump off a bridge in them if it involved a guarantee of getting lucky.

However, without the proper motivation most GM's wouldn't dare try cross dressing. Being a woman is tough even if it is simply donning her clothes and makeup for a little bit. I agree with Sherry most of those that would do it would do it for just a lark. Unfortunately, society's morays concerning gender are just to strict for most men to act on simple curiosity especially if others are around. Which brings us to the age old question "If a guy puts on panties in a forest and no one is around to see did he really cross dress?"

[Sara Jessica]

I completely disagree with the premise.

Most men don't give a thought beyond matching their jeans or khakis to a particular shirt, if it matches at all. While they may like the end result, they find the time and effort that women put into their appearance to be a foreign concept. And why would anyone need more than 2 or 3 pair of shoes?

I've pointed this out before, look at a male in the media (could be any profession but in the public eye). He is usually well put together, likely to be handsome as heck, and would not be in the least bit likely to have a desire to wear a dress. Granted a very small percentage of these men may in fact have something TG going on outside of the public eye, most men are not only content being men, they are oblivious to it, just like most women are oblivious to being women. This is because they are who they are, men & women who give no second thought, let alone question, to their gender.

[eluuzion]

Maybe all men really are secret Crossdressers. They just have not been caught yet.:D Plus they know that if all men came out and cross dressed, male clothing would become unnecessary, so a lot of people in the textile industry as well as those who work in jobs related to the male clothing industry would lose their jobs. This would be the final domino that pushes the already struggling economic crisis to the breaking point and result in the ultimate collapse of world trade, like a row of dominos. :eek:

It would spread around the world like a devastating tsunami creating a wasteland of poverty, populated by huge numbers of starving male zombies, wandering around aimlessly in tattered Victoria’s Secret discards that they picked up at Goodwill for pennies on the dollar. They would naturally gravitate to the tent cities of the Occupy Wall Street chapters, in search of food and shelter. Since there are not adequate sanitation measures in place and few, if any portable toilets available, personal hygiene issues would become a major problem. This would create a giant Petri Dish for bacterial growth. This would lead to widespread disease, creating worldwide epidemics that systematically destroy mass populations… culminating in the extinction of the human race.:eek:

Therefore, most men refrain from crossdressing or deny those urges, in order to form a unified humanitarian effort to protect and/or save mankind from complete annihilation.:drink:

Another option might be that most males simply do have any interest or feel any compulsion to wear women’s clothing, unless somebody pays them a lot of money to do so. This optional explanation would of course, represent the most logical scenario.:battingeyelashes:

Just my thoughts…:D

:hugs:
:love:

[Marleena]

Great post Steffi! I think this question would need a poll somewhere. If I asked my guy friends it would sure raise eyebrows.lol.

I tend to agree they would do it only to get sex from a GG too. I think they have more fun taking the clothes off their women.:) I like that part too, but I would like to put them on myself later on after taking them off her.:)

[CarlaWestin]

I think that most 'macho' men would gladly wear panties........................................... .....On their heads!

[Piora]

Great post Steffi! I think this question would need a poll somewhere. If I asked my guy friends it would sure raise eyebrows.lol.

Too true. I think I would get incredulous, gaping, slack-jawed responses from mine, too! :eek:


but I would like to put them on myself later on after taking them off her.:)

Yeah....that would be problematic wouldn't it? Sneaking into the bathroom to try them on....and later hearing, "hey what are you doing in there for so long? Have you seen my bra and panties? I can't find my dress, either!" LoL! :heehee:


I think that most 'macho' men would gladly wear panties........................................... .....On their heads!

Exactly. I think it was around Hallowe'en there was a thread similar to this, and the consensus was that on that night of nights, there would be "average" guys that would put on women's clothing, but not authentically, and would make a caricature out of the whole thing, so there would be no mistaking that here was a GUY! Just dressed up! :heehee:

[PretzelGirl]

I think you have to separate being a Crossdresser with putting something on. This isn't necessarily the same thing. And without getting into another terminology battle, I believe a lot of guys will put something on to get lucky, get a laugh, for a costume for the attention, or a variety of other things. Some do it while acting and they aren't "crossdressers". So my answer is yes, it is all about motivation being greater than fears.

[Melody1985]

I think you have to separate being a Crossdresser with putting something on. This isn't necessarily the same thing. And without getting into another terminology battle, I believe a lot of guys will put something on to get lucky, get a laugh, for a costume for the attention, or a variety of other things. Some do it while acting and they aren't "crossdressers". So my answer is yes, it is all about motivation being greater than fears.

I think this is a good point..

[Badtranny]

Those who think that most men would CD if no one would ever find out are in my opinion absolutely wrong. It is just not something they think about. Would we be surprised if we knew how many men secretly do it? Probably, but it sure wouldn't be anywhere near "most" men. Cross dressing is NOT fun for most people. (outside of a special event) My roomie, (GG) doesn't think it's fun, my best friend (GG) doesn't think it's fun, hell, I'm a damn tranny and I still don't think it's fun. I never got that "kick" that CDrs describe out of dressing up like a girl. (and that really messed with my head)

Now, would most guys put on a garter or a bra at the request of a hot new chick who they find themselves alone with? I would say yes, but that's hardly cross dressing and they wouldn't do it again, unless it was requested again. Men will do almost anything for sex though.

I've dated men off and on for 20+ years now and I have never encountered one that was wearing, or liked to wear panties or something along those lines, and those guys were GAY! (I wasn't but they were) ;-)

Cross dressing is a symptom of something else (mostly) and I just don't think "most" men have that something else in them.
...and there's nothing wrong with that.

[Kathy Smith]

I think that a lot would wear at least one item of feminine clothing, providing it was strictly temporary and would increase their social standing in some way. For a bet, to take part in a charity run or something like that. The more outlandish and obviously fake the better. It would definitely not have to have any negative effect on their perceived masculinity, particularly amongst their friends. Having said all that, I wouldn't call it CDing under those circumstances (although, to be pedantic, it is).

[josee]

Melissa, I agree. The guys I know are way to homophobic and likely think they would turn gay if they even tried on a pair of panties.
It has to be something you are born with at least a predisposition for.

[EllieOPKS]

I would place a bet that 90 percent of males have tried on female clothes at some point in life. It would be a great survey question. I think crossdressers are the filtered group that liked it enough to explore further.

[Piora]

I would place a bet that 90 percent of males have tried on female clothes at some point in life. It would be a great survey question. I think crossdressers are the filtered group that liked it enough to explore further.

I think you would lose that bet. Even factoring in the number of men that have done it for a laugh, or dressed like a 'woman' for Hallowe'en, or some other 'laughable' situation, it wouldn't be a very high percentage. However, there's no way to get an accurate figure, because less than half of those asked in a survey would answer truthfully, anyway! :)

[MissMarcie]

Gee I fall within my description as a normal male and lookie I wear female clothing without it being a bet.... So YES WAY!!!!!!!

Maybe you need to re-examine your definition of "normal". Because I can guarantee you that NORMAL men have zero desire to wear female clothing.

[Elizabeth Ann]

Crossdressing has always had a sexual component for me, but honestly I never thought of myself as a crossdresser when younger. The only thing I did as an adolescent was to try on some panties, slips, and lingerie, and then only a few times. I actually thought I was completely normal about this.

In recent years, I have been seeing a therapist. This is not specifically about gender issues, but of course the crossdressing is discussed significantly. At one point, I made a remark something like, "all boys have a fascination with women's lingerie." The therapist remarked that, yes they do, but very few put them on.

So, I don't know.

By the way, I believe the story told at the beginning of the OP was actually about Voltaire at a dinner party, showing the moral bankruptcy of the aristocracy.

Liz

[Rachel Flowers]

I think we're in danger here of doing to "normal" (whatever the zip that means) men what we resist letting people do to us, which is pigeon-holing and pre-judging. Just as none of us can truly understand what is really is to be a woman, none of us can truly understand what it is to be a non-crossdressing man. It's a question we can't answer. Like asking would most aliens crossdress in the right circumstances. Who knows? Nobody.

For me the right circumstances would be that we stop labelling all clothing as male or female and allow anyone to wear whatever works for them.

[christina s]

I wouldn't go as far to say most men , but i would say more would enjoy exploring their feminine side . A buddy of mine who i workout with , his girlfriend took him out to get a pedicure with her and i think his word were " after having this little Asian girl rubbing on my ,feet i felt like i just got fu*****"

[Ellyn]

There has to be some inner desire that is triggered by the presence of articles of female clothing. It would be a lot of fun to set up like one of those hidden camera shows, leaving a complete outfit of sexy clothes, wigs, makeup, etc. in a hotel room where the subject(s) could not miss finding them, and see if the subject would try anything on, and then to see how far the subject would go in trying them on.

[crusadergirl]

Maybe they would i don't know let me ask them

[Badtranny]

I wouldn't go as far to say most men , but i would say more would enjoy exploring their feminine side . A buddy of mine who i workout with , his girlfriend took him out to get a pedicure with her and i think his word were " after having this little Asian girl rubbing on my ,feet i felt like i just got fu*****"


There is nothing feminine about a pedicure! Or a manicure either for that matter. Men aren't feminine. Most guys don't even look fem with long hair, they just look like rockers.

Your average man is not interested in exploring his feminine side. They are not wired that way. That's like the argument that everyone is bisexual to some degree and that is also not true.

A cross dresser can't imagine anyone not enjoying it, but that's because they're cross dressers. I love men. LOVE them, and it's hard for me to understand why straight guys or straight CDs don't find them attractive, but they can't help how they feel anymore than I can.

A friend and I were looking at an extremely hot girl the other day at lunch and he asked me how I couldn't want to hit that. I said, she's a smoke show for sure, but I bet she's got a hot brother. He just rolled his eyes and said "I don't wanna hear it". That guy would no sooner want to wear lingerie than I would grow a mustache. We are who we are, and so are they.

[Marleena]

Normal to CDers is getting dressed up.:)

The other males are simply not Cders, that's their normal.

[Sometimes Steffi]

This turned into a very interesting thread. But many of you who say not most guys buy into the excuses some CDs and maybe other GMs use to distance themselves from being labled gay, CG or sissy.


No i do not think most men would , you might get some that would do it for a joke or a laugh or a dare , most men are happy being just ordinary men , what ever that is :doh:

And it's also possible that most men make a joke about it so no one will think that they *really* like crossdressing


They might do it for monetary gain, or something like that. They wouldn't do it for the reasons WE do it. Either you're a crossdresser, or you're not. People who do it for a living have no gender or sexual connection to the clothes. We do. Which is not to say that there aren't crossdressers that work as female impersonators; I'm sure there are. But when you saw Patrick Swayze dress up in the movie, you can be pretty sure it was as a professional act. Same with Milton Berle.

I always wondered about Milton Berle. I really think he was a crossdresser in his personal life, and found a way to make laughs doing what he loved anyhow. Sme with Flip "Geraldine" Wilson.


They would.... Only if they all lost a bet....

Losing a bet. Another perennial lie used by CDer, and maybe normal men, to hide the fact that they really like crossdressing.


Exactly. I think it was around Hallowe'en there was a thread similar to this, and the consensus was that on that night of nights, there would be "average" guys that would put on women's clothing, but not authentically, and would make a caricature out of the whole thing, so there would be no mistaking that here was a GUY! Just dressed up! :heehee:

Yet another CD plausible deniability activity. Don't look too much like a girl, don't have too good makeup, and don't walk too well in hells, or someone will get suspicious that it's more than a one time thing.


Melissa, I agree. The guys I know are way to homophobic and likely think they would turn gay if they even tried on a pair of panties.
It has to be something you are born with at least a predisposition for.

Acting homophobic. Yet another way to distance youself from appearing gay or a crossdresser. It's hard to tell fake macho from real macho.

[Sara Jessica]

Men aren't feminine. Most guys don't even look fem with long hair, they just look like rockers.

That cracked me up. Reminds me of the first time I tried on a wig way-back-when. Guy mode in the chair, felt like Howard Stern. Now there's a PRETTY sight!!! ;)

[curvious]

I think so... how many drunk men have tried on their wives panties or hose simply to JO??? probably most LOL

[MissMarcie]

I think so... how many drunk men have tried on their wives panties or hose simply to JO??? probably most LOL

wow, how do you come up with this kind of stuff?
How many drunk guys who aren't CD's think..."oh, I think I'll put my wife's panties on" ?

[Badtranny]

I think so... how many drunk men have tried on their wives panties or hose simply to JO??? probably most LOL

What? That's just bizarre. The average dude just isn't waiting for the first opportunity to put on panties and pop a boner.

Case in point; There's probably 50 guys at work who I encounter or deal with just about every day. They all know me, they all know I'm transitioning, and they all know where my office is, and not one guy has tried to talk to me about "it". I figured at least a couple of guys would come out to me as CDs or at least gay, but nope. The odds are that there is a CD in the building, but that is still a long way from "most" guys.

[Risque_Christine]

Most men would sooner take rat poison, gladly supplied by a girlfriend, than to dress as a woman, other than as a joke (see "Some Like It Hot" or "Honey Bun" from South Pacific). I find it deliciously ironic that while Rodgers and Hammerstein produced a musical that is intended to strike a blow for fair treatment of blacks and asians, it pillories an even less popular minority.
Best, Christine

[windycissy]

No, we're special...if the answer were "yes" then the stores would be full of men buying dresses the week before Halloween :D seriously, the peer pressure against men acting feminine is stifling in our society, although I wonder if any anthropologists out there have discovered other cultures where men commonly adopt the female role?

[MissMarcie]

No, we're special...if the answer were "yes" then the stores would be full of men buying dresses the week before Halloween :D seriously, the peer pressure against men acting feminine is stifling in our society, although I wonder if any anthropologists out there have discovered other cultures where men commonly adopt the female role?
"special" ? uh...right...whatever...

[johanna.kitten]

They might do it for monetary gain, or something like that. They wouldn't do it for the reasons WE do it. Either you're a crossdresser, or you're not. People who do it for a living have no gender or sexual connection to the clothes. We do. Which is not to say that there aren't crossdressers that work as female impersonators; I'm sure there are. But when you saw Patrick Swayze dress up in the movie, you can be pretty sure it was as a professional act. Same with Milton Berle.

But then again would it not be great to do something you love and also get paid for it? I know it is no good excuse, I do this because I love it. It has been a 29 year long journey with lots of denial. In my profession I do what I love, but would it not be great to have a hobby/passion that is also putting food on the table? Yeah, you should not hide behind things, I was only in it for the money. This is the second best thing I ever did in life... loving it to bits.

/Johanna

[carhill2mn]

My belief is that some men would try "it"; a few would like "it"; most would never have the courage to try "it"; few would admit that they liked "it". Men, in general, are not very brave when it comes to not acting macho.

[Samantha_Smile]

My brother is an electrical engineer, he works in a fairly manly environment with a cool bunch of lads (the ones Ive met) theyre all the stubbly, dirty "did you see that ****ing awful forward pass" stereotype.
But last year they were out on a stag party in full drag. I found out off my mum (he still lived at home) that the next day in his hung over stupour, he wore the skirt and tights around the house becuase they were "dead comfy".
Now I dont think he does this regularly, if at all when not siding with the group bravado mentality, but he obviously enjoyed it.

I think if a man cant admit, at least to himself, that wearing or wanting to wear girls/womens clothing is appealing or even enjoyable, then he isn't a real man LOL
On a serious note and back on topic, I would estimate that atleast 80% of men, given the right circumstances (no fear, no being caught, watched, high levels of boredom, alcohol) would engage in cross dressing, if only once...
Just to try it

[jessi]

What? That's just bizarre. The average dude just isn't waiting for the first opportunity to put on panties and pop a boner.

Case in point; There's probably 50 guys at work who I encounter or deal with just about every day. They all know me, they all know I'm transitioning, and they all know where my office is, and not one guy has tried to talk to me about "it". I figured at least a couple of guys would come out to me as CDs or at least gay, but nope. The odds are that there is a CD in the building, but that is still a long way from "most" guys.


To be fair to your collegues, the modern corporate environment discourages any kind of open discussion on private matters, particularly for men. They are all probably terrified that they will phrase something awkwardly, and send HR into diversity police panic mode.

I have had a few TS collegues in the past. The issue was never raised by anyone. And I didn't feel comfortable bringing up the issue with them personally, since it would cross the line from being a business relationship to being a personal one. I would have been happy to offer them my support, and tell them why. But it just wasn't that sort of environment...

No. Most men would rather walk barefoot over hot coals than look feminine in public, for any reason. The only exception is if it really is a joke or prank, and in that case, it needs to be obvious that the male isn't enjoying it and doesn't really look anything like a woman. A sloppy wig, badly applied makeup, ill-fitting clothes, and outsized "breasts" would be fine, but a studied feminine appearance would raise suspicions. If one has naturally feminine features or characteristics, then even greater caution is warranted...

[Calleona]

I agree with Melissa Hobbes(badtranny) it is not somthing that your average male would think about , its too unmanly and tied to the Limbic system . Most men only have Five frames of mind Happy,Horny,Hungry,Sleepy and Angry (Caveman Chronicles )

[Marla]

Yes most men would! It is a mysterious realm that most men would enjoy experiencing. If it excites them I woul like to be there!