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Aprilrain
12-19-2011, 10:13 AM
I'm stuck at my boyfriends house waiting for the door people to come and install a new front door. I've had too much coffee and not enough food. I'm a little bit sick too so not only do I have to much time on my hands but I'm feeling a little loopy to boot!

Anyway here is my thought. I know we like to go on and on about gender ID being separate from sexual orientation and I believe this is true.....to a point. Indulge me for a moment.
So here is my point. If one is used to dating or being married to a cisgendered heterosexual female as a male and then transitions to female would they not then lose the pool of potential partners they are used to dating? Yes of course they are a lesbian now and have that pool from which to draw however in my limited experience lesbian identified woman are for the most part quite different in their presentations and expectations than hetero woman and the male female dynamic is gone. Not to mention that many cisgendered lesbians take a rather dim view of trans woman!
Perhaps a less common but similar experiance would be that of one who lives as a gay man and then transitions to female.
Both situations seem as though they could be problimatic for the transsexual who is trying to find a partner.
None of this is to say that a heterosexual TS woman, such as myself, has it any easier finding a mate, however I don't suddenly find myself thrust into a different "culture" altogether. Again, in my limited experience the gay community is in many ways sort of it's own culture. Being "gay" seems to have more attached to it than just being attracted to the same sex, which makes sense. As a marginalized and maligned subset of the general population gay people find it necessary to politicize their sexual orientain in order to gain some equal footing within a heterocentric culture. But I digress.

So for those of you who identify as lesbian and who aren't married do you find dating in the gay community to be a culture shock and also has problems finding a mate ever caused you to consider halting your transition?

Hope
12-20-2011, 02:55 AM
I'm stuck at my boyfriends house waiting for the door people to come and install a new front door. I've had too much coffee and not enough food. I'm a little bit sick too so not only do I have to much time on my hands but I'm feeling a little loopy to boot!

Anyway here is my thought. I know we like to go on and on about gender ID being separate from sexual orientation and I believe this is true.....to a point. Indulge me for a moment.
So here is my point. If one is used to dating or being married to a cisgendered heterosexual female as a male and then transitions to female would they not then lose the pool of potential partners they are used to dating? Yes of course they are a lesbian now and have that pool from which to draw however in my limited experience lesbian identified woman are for the most part quite different in their presentations and expectations than hetero woman and the male female dynamic is gone. Not to mention that many cisgendered lesbians take a rather dim view of trans woman!
Perhaps a less common but similar experiance would be that of one who lives as a gay man and then transitions to female.
Both situations seem as though they could be problimatic for the transsexual who is trying to find a partner.
None of this is to say that a heterosexual TS woman, such as myself, has it any easier finding a mate, however I don't suddenly find myself thrust into a different "culture" altogether. Again, in my limited experience the gay community is in many ways sort of it's own culture. Being "gay" seems to have more attached to it than just being attracted to the same sex, which makes sense. As a marginalized and maligned subset of the general population gay people find it necessary to politicize their sexual orientain in order to gain some equal footing within a heterocentric culture. But I digress.

So for those of you who identify as lesbian and who aren't married do you find dating in the gay community to be a culture shock and also has problems finding a mate ever caused you to consider halting your transition?

I'm a bit of an outlier in a lot of ways, so take what I am about to say with a grain of salt. A big fat grain of rock salt.

But I identify as a lesbian, and i am still married. My dear sweet wife, God bless her, has gone through this transition with me and has been my biggest supporter and cheerleader through the process. (I know, don't hate me).

But we are finding our place in the lesbian community quite easily. My partner and I are on the cover of our local LGBT magazine next month... We are both serving on committees of one of our local LGBT organizations. I too was VERY worried about the lesbian communities willingness to accept me, but so far I have received almost nothing but an open armed welcome.

Now - to be fair, there are the militant lesbians who don't want anything to do with me. But to hell with them. They can hang out with the conservative Christians. My partner and I hang with the rest of the lesbian community and we have been completely accepted.

Now - to be fair, (Again) I am not trying to have sex with anyone in the community, and I am sure to be very respectful and mind my manners in what is a completely new and foreign community, but so far, the response has been breathtaking. To the point I have stopped wondering if I am going to be accepted when I show up to a lesbian event.

Let me also say, I meet a LOT of femme dykes. A lot of butch dykes too, but if you are looking for femme dykes, they are around - you just don't identify them as lesbians. Show up to a few lesbian social / networking events, you will find the pretty girls who like girls too.

We are having a couple over for dinner Wed... I will ask about the sex issue and get back to you... it won't be a real answer as it will be hypothetical... but I will ask...

Amber99
12-20-2011, 08:57 AM
I'm lesbian but I never dated before starting transition because my self esteem was way too bad. It is kinda a shock anyway to suddenly connect the dots and realize I'm gay though.

Stephenie S
12-20-2011, 09:11 AM
A date? Uhh, what's that?

Stephie

Rianna Humble
12-20-2011, 11:32 AM
many cisgendered lesbians take a rather dim view of trans woman!
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So for those of you who identify as lesbian and who aren't married do you find dating in the gay community to be a culture shock and also has problems finding a mate ever caused you to consider halting your transition?

I thought long and hard about whether I qualified to answer this because I am not ready to be intimate with anyone until I am whole. However, I do have very wide contact with lesbians at work as well as socially and I find they not only accept me but some even go out of their way to be friendly and to include me.

At my age, I don't have great expectations of finding a life partner, but my lesbian friends all encourage me not to give up hope - something that I don't get from the majority of my hetero friends.