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jeniinnylons
02-02-2012, 12:01 PM
Has anyone ever read this page before? I was reading parts and found the following and it seems it relates to a lot of us but maybe not all (does me a lot)

http://stopcrossdressing.com/understanding/why-did-i-crossdress/


If I was born that way, then why didn’t I start feeling “feminine” until 4 years ago? Why didn’t I feel the need to crossdress throughout my childhood? And why do I only feel “feminine” every so often?

I only crossdressed when I got an urge to do so. So if I was truly feminine, then I would want to do it on a consistent basis, which is what some crossdressers do. Maybe they are truly feminine, but I am not.

What I have is transvestic fetishism. I crossdress for the sexual pleasure of it, not because I want to be a woman or dress like one. I associate sexual pleasure with women’s clothing, instead of having sex with women.

There are a few other reasons why I believe I crossdress. I was always painfully shy around girls growing up. I have never had a girlfriend, still to this day (26 years old). My theory is that because I lack relationships with women, my crossdressing is a way to bring some sort of feminine presence into my life. So instead of coming home to a girlfriend or wife, I instead dress up and use that as a replacement.

Also, I notice that “the urge” comes when I feel overwhelmed or stressed out. Crossdressing is an escape, a distraction from all that is going on in life. It allows you to feel completely free and relaxed. But instead of giving in to that urge, I can instead find ways to channel that energy into my work. Or, I can go for a walk. Anything that will actually be productive, instead of destructive.

I believe then that my brain associates feminine clothing with sex, and that is why I am drawn to it. Once I am done masturbating, I no longer have any desire whatsoever to wear women’s clothes.

As I continued to indulge in it, the worse it gets. It’s like having one drink one night, then a few more the next time, and then all of a sudden you start having 8-10 at a sitting. You get the idea.

I believe there is a continuum with crossdressing. At first, it’s just an innocent behavior, just like having a beer. Then, a pattern begins to develop. I almost began doing it after awhile even when I didn’t feel an urge to do so. One day, you realize that you can’t stop even when you try to. I believe that I had a sexual addiction, or maybe I still do but I certainly feel differently now than I did before.

Now, while I believe that I wasn’t born with a “feminine” alter ego, I think one was starting to develop as a result of crossdressing. I did notice that I was acting more feminine, but I am not sure why exactly. Maybe it was still away to get sexually aroused. Maybe it was because I thought I was more feminine, and therefore believing that I was just being my true-self. But once again, I am not really feminine. I was never that way growing up, so I know that it wasn’t a part of myself.

My point is this: the further you go along, the worse it gets and the harder it is to stop.

StacyC
02-02-2012, 12:10 PM
People dress for many reasons. If this is why someone dresses than its fine. You have to do what you have to do.

Marleena
02-02-2012, 12:26 PM
If you look at the right side menu you'll see links with a religious factor. So I see how this blog is motivated.

If anyone needs to quit and can quit more power to them.:) I'll keep on dressing though because I don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong and my emotional well being hinges on my dressing up. Girl time!!!

paulaprimo
02-02-2012, 12:32 PM
i totally disagree, i don't like beer...

moondog
02-02-2012, 12:33 PM
None of this relates to me, and I think I can see why he has never had a girlfriend. Hell, he can't even be his own girlfriend. I found this a sad attempt for the author to attempt shifting his desires to dress onto an external cause...I'm painfully shy...I've never had a girlfriend...I do it for sexual gratification...the "urge" comes when I feel stressed or overwhelmed...etc. "But instead of giving in to that urge, I can instead find ways to channel that energy into my work. Or, I can go for a walk. Anything that will actually be productive, instead of destructive." Yup, crossdressing is destructive, got it, ok, thanks for letting me know that pal. I bet one of his "constructive" activities to avoid crossdressing is "praying away the gay." Attempting to associate crossdressing with alcoholism, or any addiction, is completely pathetic.

First you just start out wearing panties, then you add a bra. After a few weeks or months you're wearing full female outfits. Then you start "feeling" more feminine and you start playing with make up and hair styles. Soon you're developing a female voice and taking on female mannerisms. When that isn't enough to get your rocks off...you start going out fully dressed. Before you can say this author is full of crap you're on your knees...

Nope, not buying it, look at the website. I doubt this guy ever dressed in his life. This is made up to scare guilible saps into believing crossdressing will eventually make them switch sides.

kimdl93
02-02-2012, 12:34 PM
This appears to be focused on individuals who define themselves as fetish dressers. Evidently, this fellow developed a sexual addiction associated with his CDing. Too bad for him. If CDing becomes a destructive part of one individual's life...then fine, make some changes. But I resent it when someone projects their problem on the rest of us.

And from what I can tell, the underlying theme is that crossdressing is bad, cross dressing for sexual fulfillment is bad and bad is defined by a particular religious dogma. I am perfectly willing to let people observe thier own religious beliefs. And if those beliefs include admonitions against CDing, particularly fetish CDing, then fine, I'd encourage adherents to that faith to live thier beliefs. But I would also insist that I have an equal right to my own set of beliefs and I do not have to adjust my behavior to conform to someone elses dogma.

Princess Chantal
02-02-2012, 12:53 PM
His thoughts are just as legit as anyone elses and I respect his observation of his crossdressing just as much as I do with someone at the other end of the thought spectrum

Kelly2u
02-02-2012, 01:00 PM
So sad to be him! 26 and no girlfriend and now he doesn't even touch himself. Self-rejection must be the worst!

Barbara Ella
02-02-2012, 01:20 PM
I agree with the post that says to respect a persons perspective. Given that, I need to first accept that a true person wrote this, and I am sorry, it does not ring true to me. I feel like it is a contrived piece written to get to the good parts at the end to emphasize stopping. I do believe these feelings exist and cause a lot of hurt when we go through them. I find it distasteful when true feelings are ascribed to a real person but are really just another ploy. Just my feeling about this particular piece, especially given the nature of the site

Babes

Karren H
02-02-2012, 01:33 PM
The devil made me do it! Lol. I posted a comment on About... Let's see if ut gets posted.. Its waiting moderation... I'm thinking not...

http://stopcrossdressing.com/about/#comment-438

Ava Tryptyk
02-02-2012, 01:33 PM
Crossdressing is lots of fun, but no one should confuse it with substance addiction. Plenty of people on this forum and elsewhere live normal, productive and healthy lives and have gained new insights into femininity and society by wearing women's clothes. For some people on this forum, myself included, there is a fetish aspect to it, but I really think there's nothing wrong with that if you don't let it take over your entire life. If the person who wrote that article on stopcrossdressing.com is a real person, he obviously had a very negative experience with crossdressing, but when I read the posts made on this forum, most people seem quite happy with their lives and their feminine selves.

Katie83
02-02-2012, 01:41 PM
I don't want to stop crossdressing, it's a big part of me, why would i want to supress this just because a book says i shouldn't do it?
If the scenario is genuine then i feel sorry for individual who has written it, however i do feel it has been created for religious brainwashing.
Just my opinion!
Katie

suzy1
02-02-2012, 02:13 PM
As soon as I noticed religion was behind it I stopped taking it seriously.
There are some lovely members here that are religious and I respect there support for us.
But this is the ‘make the bible fit what I believe’ brigade again.

SUZY

moondog
02-02-2012, 02:44 PM
Here's a reply to a comment on his blog:

"You feel bad about masturbating because deep down you know it’s wrong."

The blog writer obviously believes masturbation is wrong, however, rather than quoting religious text to substantiate his belief or using his own arguments to fight the scourge of masturbation he projects that into the other with this statement. YOU feel bad about the things YOU do because YOU know they're wrong. Nobody is telling you this, YOU feel it and if YOU feel this it's coming from within YOU and it is the absolute truth.

The sad truth is many men and women feel bad about masturbating because we've been raised in an overly sexualized society that both promotes sex and sexuality while simultaneously suppressing sexual urges and desires. How can anybody be raised in such a society and come out even close to "normal" whatever “normal” even means.

I masturbate because I get horny, it feels good, I enjoy it, and I’m separated from wife so I spank my monkey and I try to get a good nights sleep. I also drink copious amounts of beer, watch porn, and eat Doritos. Sometimes I do all four things at the same time, which can get tricky and messy.

There, I think I’ve officially crossed the line and gone into TMI land. I don’t feel bad about masturbating, crossdressing, or my confused sexual identity. I am.

KellyJameson
02-02-2012, 03:05 PM
Interesting thread, I have read similar words by others and for them I think it was wise they did not continue.

If I only have a relationship with a woman so I can use her body as a receptacle for my pleasure I am using her as an object and turned her into a thing. There will not be moments walking hand in hand. There will not be knowing looks across the room when we share the same thoughts and each knows this of the other just by looking into each others eyes. The warmth of their body pressed against us in sleep will not be appreciated. The time spent with them becomes the cost to secure sex and their voice an irritant. The relationship is cold,habitual and mechanical.

Crossdressing is also a relationship but it is a relationship with self, it may be shared with others but it is primarily an inward journey unless it is being used to objectify not another but the self and than it to becomes cold, habitual and mechanical. It is our state of mind that determines how we relate to everything and how we relate to everything creates our state of mind. Crossdressing, as everything in life, can bring you back to yourself or keep you locked in a reactionary relationship with ones own sense of worthlessness.


Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves like locked rooms and like books that are written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will find them gradually, without noticing it, and live along some distant day into the answer. ~Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet

Lorileah
02-02-2012, 03:14 PM
So much bad information, so little time. Even the attempt at logic fails. "Gods is perfect, Got created MAN in his image and thus made man and woman (well which is it boy, God's image man or woman?). God does not create imperfection (and yet he created the blogger who claims they are not perfect)." So before this dives into a theological discussion, let's just say the blogger has stated his perspective, right or wrong.

Other articles in this domain are nothing more than smoke and mirrors, citing one thing one time and disagreeing with the same later. Manipulating how things are written to fit the perspective they want to impose and then disregarding that which does not fit their argument.

It is a common practice to make someone feel inferior in order to maintain control of them. This is done in religion, government and even private life. This blogger wanted someone to make them fell substandard. They wanted someone to tell them they are wrong and then to show them the path that they wanted to believe was right. None of this is any different than what is preached to them. The group who is in charge makes the other look bad by pointing out how they are "wrong" according to the power broker's rules. In this case they even argue translations of the same passage and how one religious group says one thing and another says something else. Infighting even among the pious.

It is nothing more than cherry picking. Choosing the passages you WANT to apply and ignoring the rest. It failed with the "God is perfect. God does not make mistakes" argument and then points out the mistakes (ie crossdressers) God has made. Error does not compute, you can't have it both ways

Julogden
02-02-2012, 03:18 PM
I think Acastina nailed it: it's probably fictional and an attempt to lure in CD's who are having guilt issues, an attempt to "bring them to god", if you will. It's a crock of reeking bullsheet as far as I'm concerned, and I hate to see stuff like that because you just know that some self-appointed "religious" expert (probably the person who put it there in the first place) will cite it as proof that CD's can/should quit dressing, with the implication being that ALL CD's should follow that example.

Carol

andrea35
02-02-2012, 03:28 PM
In my case I found out that when I crossdress I am a better more caring husband and I am happier. the opposite is true when I stop doing it.

sterling12
02-02-2012, 03:47 PM
Why I think this True Life Confession was written by a Forty-something Assistant Pastor, probably in charge of Youth Ministries. Has anyone ever really heard a twenty six year old exclaim: "I'd go for a walk," to suppress his sexual feelings? He might say, "I'd go down to The Gym and workout," or "I'd hang out down at The local Whatever where other twenty somethings are known to congregate;" but Take A Walk? Us old, fat guys usually "take a walk," and usually at the urging of our Doctors.

He further questions the genuineness of being transgendered by asking: "Why didn't I feel this way with FIRST AWARENESS?" Well, as most of us know from personal history's, that even if we did not dress when younger, even if we suppressed "The Urge," it was always there! That statement sounds like someone who a.) hasn't actually experienced being transgendered, and b.) has never actually tried to talk to any experienced person about it!

If this Blog is genuine, (which I doubt) our young person shouldn't be so quick to declare himself cured. Listening to, and Reading Life Stories says that "down the road;" in a few days, or a few weeks.... or many years, The Urge will come back stronger than ever. Having Failed, (especially after seeking the aide of God) is a formula for self-loathing and possible suicide. I do hope our Preacher has written something, or tried to provide some type of "safety net" within his Blog for all those folks who heed his Call and fall short. If he didn't, and he believes in A God who also provides Forgiveness, and retribution; then there will certainly be some Hell to pay!

Peace and Love, Joanie

Hali
02-02-2012, 03:55 PM
Its sad why religious pple wont quit the unrealistic desire of assuming all human beings are the same, that all humans have the same distribution of X-Y chromosomes, that we cant have pple with genetic predisposition of having less male hormones or a man having more of femme hormones, it all boils down to the fact that some pple are so into God that they are willing to go to any extent to please a God that has never called them on the phone to say hi or to explain to them why he created them instead he has appointed an interpreter or the interpreter has appointed himself to do it for him.

The science community is putting alot of money into researches involving TG so that they will atleast have a say in any "sexual deviance" when such situations arise, but instead the religious institutions will not invest money into researches on human sexuality so as to be well informed. Let them publish journals and show experiments carried out by the church to support their theory that CDing is simply bad and destructive and as mammals we dont have it in our genes.

I have never seen myself as 100% guy (what ever that means) and that we CDers are "weak" by giving into CDing, well i think it is a sign of strength to accept who u truly are (ones identity no matter how down grading that identity is than to parade one self as a part of an identity that is not his).

Humans have a bad habit of condemning things they dont understand.

Let us see published work of science by the critics of LGBT culture, let there be so many scientific data on our "condition" to warrant our condemnation.

~Joanne~
02-02-2012, 04:09 PM
I went to see if karen's post got posted or not. I read the babble comment to someones which did get posted and that was enough to tell me everything I needed to know about that website and it's intentions.

Kerigirl2009
02-02-2012, 04:11 PM
Does not describe me at all.

whowhatwhen
02-02-2012, 04:15 PM
Good luck back in that closet buddy, keep on repressing those feelings.
It's not like repressing deep seated feelings due to religious beliefs ever hurt anyone...

Vickie_CDTV
02-02-2012, 04:41 PM
How does he define "sexual addiction" anyway, and what are the parameters between normal healthy libido and "addiction", and how did he come to those parameters anyway? At his age he should have a high libido, and if he associates dressing with sexual release it only makes sense he would do it often... but what is the definition of too much and how does he know?

I can identify with him on some level, if my ex girlfriend hadn't been in the picture I could have been 26 and not had a girlfriend yet either. Loneliness can be a very painful thing, when one is not desirable to any woman and forced to be alone, something that many folks can't understand.

LaurenB
02-02-2012, 04:55 PM
Religious hooey designed to lure CD's in and then scare em with fire and brimstone.

Ye are of Dress Barn I say and dammit get thee to a hosiery ... shop.
Lauren 6 and 7/8's

Go Tom Brady! (Sorry)

Gaby2
02-02-2012, 05:07 PM
Hi Jeni!
I'm glad I didn't discover this page when I was younger and very much alone and ashamed of my desire to CD.
I can ony compare it to CDers.com... I'm happy to stay on this side of the universe!
:rose:Gaby

Jonianne
02-02-2012, 05:29 PM
Progress Report: Crossdressing is A Thing of The Past

On December 5th, I will have stopped crossdressing for 8 months. It’s been quite a journey to say the least. But I can say for certain that it’s officially a thing of the past.

It sounds like he is setting himself up for a "fall". It's way too soon to be making such an adamant, declarative statement. He seems to need to publicize all this in order to attempt to gain strength to fight his feelings about not being OK with himself, IMHO.

Crossdressing has not left his mind at all. He is still very focused on it, he has just transfered his struggle by talking about it in his blog.

Sister Rachel
02-02-2012, 05:42 PM
"and I think I can see why he has never had a girlfriend. Hell, he can't even be his own girlfriend."

Ohh ... that's a bit cruel, moondog...


.... but very funny:laughing:


I feel genuinely sorry for him ( can't say 'her' in the circumstances ).

Kathy Smith
02-02-2012, 06:20 PM
Oh dear, it looks like yet another reason for me going to Hull. :-)

NathalieX66
02-02-2012, 06:27 PM
I've seen that website.
It is a religious site.....primarily Christian fundamentalist......up there with gay reparative therapy. :evilbegon

No thank you, I'll stick to my ways of Deuteronomy 22:5.

Jenniferathome
02-02-2012, 06:32 PM
No,never read it and don't care to be fixed. This is one individual's experience, if real at all. There are millions of crossdressers and likely a few different motivations. I feel good when I dress, I have since I was a child. It is innate in me, not a choice and it is not getting worse. It is just right

Jenniferathome
02-02-2012, 06:50 PM
...wonder what you all would have said about me if I tried to quit.
This site is not about helping crossdressers. It's about curing them of the evil infecting them. If someone wants to stop, more power to you. If you can, you are nota crossdresser, just an experimenter. And yes, we have all purged and failed at stoppingbecuasewe do not want to stop not can any crossdresser "stop." hiatus, yes, bury your feelings for a time, yes, but it never stops.

Silentpartner GG SO
02-02-2012, 06:55 PM
Oh dear, it looks like yet another reason for me going to Hull. :-)

Oh no, not Hull!!! :eek:

Suzette Muguet de Mai
02-02-2012, 06:56 PM
I respect his experience and acknowledge his right to post, but it addresses only his situation and not to be a generalized answer for all who either CD or want to go MtF transition, or regards themselves as born woman just wrong body. Sites like the OP listed may help or hinder. I really don't know but I feel that u truly know deep inside you who you are, its just that one needs help to reveal you, to yourself and that is where a good mentor is handy. Doubt brings questions but ur mental state and the urgence you may want an answer may bring a bad answer that you may regret later.

Marleena
02-02-2012, 07:12 PM
Why on earth would anybody buy a domain to post a website stopcrossdressing.com think about it. They are totally against it. This reminds me of Westboro Church tactics. I am offended!

JessHaust
02-02-2012, 07:13 PM
Anybody know anyone in "Anonymous", I think I have a task for them! :)

JessHaust
02-02-2012, 07:13 PM
Whoops, dang it, there goes that techie guy again! I do try to keep him bundled up.

JohnH
02-02-2012, 07:25 PM
I look at "crossdressing" as simply an extension of my clothing options - much as a woman wears pants! Like most of society I wear pants on a daily basis, except in the summertime when I wear denim skirts with otherwise male clothing. But just as a woman might want to wear a skirt or a dress occasionally I as a man should feel free to do so.

Johanna (John)

Jacqueline Winona
02-02-2012, 07:39 PM
Well, if it was intended to change minds, it clearly isn't working here. The author is entitled to his opinion, I don't share it and it didn't move me in any direction. He'll find support in his realm, and I pray that he doesn't hate himself.

Silentpartner GG SO
02-02-2012, 07:53 PM
I look at "crossdressing" as simply an extension of my clothing options - much as a woman wears pants! Like most of society I wear pants on a daily basis, except in the summertime when I wear denim skirts with otherwise male clothing. But just as a woman might want to wear a skirt or a dress occasionally I as a man should feel free to do so.

Johanna (John)

I totally agree with you - what is the difference between me as a GG wearing jeans or trousers and you wearing a dress or skirt? why is one totally fine and the other seen as abnormal? and nobody turns a head at as Scotsman wearing a kilt - (well I do actually because I think they look fabulous in their kilts ;-) )
clothes are just the wrapping paper - its whats underneath that counts

Beverley Sims
02-02-2012, 08:07 PM
I don't think I will read it, I might change my mind and not have any more fun in my life.

Josie M
02-02-2012, 08:32 PM
saw this on my RSS feed this morning...figured I'd check it out tonight.....Looks like you girls have it pretty much covered though :)

Marie-Elise
02-02-2012, 08:39 PM
Well, I guess I have to put in my two cents:

If crossdressing is a crime, then let me be guilty.

JamieRog
02-02-2012, 08:47 PM
God has said, “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness. … So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:26, 27). In stating that God made humans to live as either male or female God is decreeing that the crossing over from a male gender to a female gender is not His intention for humankind. The desire to ‘cross-over’ or ‘trans’ navigate’ means to cross-over a boundary that God the Creator set for His creation. The clear line of distinction between men and women is a manifestation of God’s revealed truth that His image be expressed as male and female. God’s creation of humanity, made up of men and women, is not to be a mixture of maleness and femaleness which is confusion, but a clear division between the two. It is only in difference and diversity that unity and companionship may exist.

That is so true. Everything is clearly separated with distinct boundaries. Its just like Genesis 1:14-18


14 God said, "Let there be lights in the huge space of the sky. Let them separate the day from the night. Let them serve as signs to mark off the seasons and the days and the years. 15 Let them serve as lights in the huge space of the sky to give light on the earth." And that's exactly what happened. 16 God made two great lights. He made the larger light to rule over the day. He made the smaller light to rule over the night. He also made the stars. 17 God put the lights in the huge space of the sky to give light on the earth. 18 He put them there to rule over the day and the night. He put them there to separate light from darkness.

So there we see there is only night and day.

There is no dusk, no dawn, no lunar or solar eclipses, and the moon definitely doesn't ever show itself during daytime.

taís
02-02-2012, 08:49 PM
oh I looove when they bring religion to the talk. that's when I smile politely and turn my back.
(but dare you say another word to me and thou shalt feel my wrath!)

website looked fake to me too. a quick whois search (http://whois.domaintools.com/stopcrossdressing.com) showed that it's registered to the same individual that replies to comments. so yeah, my bet is either assistant pastor (thx sterling12) or seen-the-light-and-been-blinded/too-much-free-time dude.

Beth Mays
02-02-2012, 08:54 PM
If the scenario is genuine then i feel sorry for individual who has written it, however i do feel it has been created for religious brainwashing.


I agree.
My wife print off something like that and gave it to me some time back... as it turn out it was a religious counseling center that was looking for business by offering (for a fee) help in overcoming your destructive ways.
No mater what you sell.... if packaged and marketed correctly then their is money to be made!


Beth

Lucy_Bella
02-02-2012, 09:09 PM
It's easy to grasp reason's we all feel is to why we have the urges to dress, then put them in a bundle.. This blog described me to almost a T ( NOT ALL )..

But to blog about something you know little about learn it a little better first..Yes we can all stop ,but it does come back because it is a part of us ,its a part of us all in some way. Rather you feel you should have been born a girl to getting sexual pleasure out of emulating a girl we don't do it because we don't feel like walking. Dressing is a part of us and after 40 some odd years of trying to stop .. I haven't found a way yet.. /:gn:

kristinacd55
02-02-2012, 09:16 PM
Yea, read it and replied to it on facebook :)

DanaR
02-02-2012, 09:33 PM
Obviously one of the hate groups. I wonder how they would feel if their group was under a similar attack, what they would say?

Samantha_Smile
02-02-2012, 09:52 PM
Ive not read everyone's responses, so Im not sure if this has already been brought up.
Ive seen this page before, long time ago and it didn't sit well with me then, and it sits less well with me now.
I wouldnt have remembered why if it wasnt for this thread, so many thanks to the OP.

The reason-
The strong bible tone that glues the whole site together.
Titles to columns such as "The Devil and Transgenderism" and "The Bible is NOT silent on the subject of transgenderism"....
I reach boiling point when I read stuff like this.
I'll apologise in advance to any god fearing churchgoers whom I may be about to offend...

The Bible was written in times that have very little similarity to today. They didn't even have candles back then. Never mind globally workable currency, economic downturn, the internet etc etc
The biggest stress they had in those days was keeping wolves away from their sheep!
Skip forward a couple thousand years after the death of JC and we have diluted and raped the bible of it's teachings and the central message - Don't kill anyone, love people as long as you can do some good deeds!
There are so many ways that a bloody book can be interpreted that its comical. Wikipedia sites there to be OVER 38,000 denominations of the christian faith. Thats 38,000 ways to interpret a book which is then used to tell others what they are doing wrong with their life.
Does this not strike anyone else as madness?
Does the whole thing not make anyone think "Maybe this book doesnt have the answers Im looking for"?

Im not advocating we all carve three sixes into our foreheads and chant for the mighty Kthulu to rise, what I AM saying, is lead your own life and keep a bloody moral compass!

My problem with the bible and its interpretations are the extremist groups that it spawns. Whether it's pro-life church groups MURDERING abortion clinic doctors (Think about that- Pro-lifers killing people), or anti-homosexual church groups violently protesting at gay pride events (both of these are easy to find via google), the church doesnt get an easy ride.
But both of these things are not enough, the 'christian' church (love thy neighbour- remember) actually run camps where people go to be cured, yes.... CURED of homosexuality.

This stop crossdressing site REEKS of religious bullsh1t to me.
Theres no support, no help, no guidance. Just page upon page of the same old misinterpreted quotes over and over again.

Im sorry, but if you still think you can stop crossdressing, then you either havent been doing it very long, or you weren't really crossdressing in the first place.
Like it or not, this is what we were made as.

I for one quite like it, so f**k all the haters at stopcrossdressing.com

Suzette Muguet de Mai
02-02-2012, 10:17 PM
OMG I just read from the website listed in the OP titled in guest post"The Bible is NOT silent on the subject of trans-genderism" and that's it, I think everyone is entitled to a say but this is so over the fence. This is written with so much garbage this site is like whacko. I bet they similar about gays, masturbation, sex ( especially out of wedlock), and standard of dress at dinner. Like give me a break this is utter nonsense.

Debglam
02-02-2012, 10:31 PM
The devil made me do it!

It was Karren that lured me into this life of glamour! Honest Ma!

Chloe Renee
02-02-2012, 11:04 PM
I have seen that site but I understand one of the fundamental the rules of the internet. Rule #1 Don't feed the trolls. Rule #2 if you are on a "anti-___" site and you want to give an opposing viewpoint, see rule #1

Tara D. Rose
02-03-2012, 12:21 AM
I have seen that site but I understand one of the fundamental the rules of the internet. Rule #1 Don't feed the trolls. Rule #2 if you are on a "anti-___" site and you want to give an opposing viewpoint, see rule #1

So I guess it's best to just roll with the mojority. Roll not against the grain. Flow along with with what the majority says? Even if we disagree?. Although I disagree with that, I do know that it is best for us to go along those lines, forget individualism, and roll with the main flow to keep down diversities, and arguments, and keep things less complicated.
Peace, love and tremendous respect to all of you here.
L&R.....................................Tara

Stephanie47
02-03-2012, 01:19 AM
I saw this while researching cross dressing to further understand myself. It did not upset me because I viewed it as his own manifesto. I say he is where I may have been fifty plus years ago, wondering why I was what I was. I actually pity him because 2012 is now. I wish I was a teenager now, not in the 1960's. I remember sitting in church listening to the pastor telling all sinners, we were all headed to hell. His god was the god of punishment. My God is the God of love. Man does not judge. God judges. And, I've found many people have not changed since the 1960's. Most have. Or at least many are not as judgmental.

I've done the manly things society has demanded or suggested. I have married. I have raised a family. I have always worked. I have never collected unemployment. I support worthy organizations and endeavors.

Yet, I am a cross dresser????????????????????

Mercury
02-03-2012, 01:59 AM
I am a christian and that website is all too stereotypical of the "religious right." It is contradicting, ignorant, and narrow-minded. The bible I read encourages none of that, rather it says to gain prudence, not to judge others, and embraces doing healthy activities, among many other things.... I will admit that I had similar opinions growing up that this guy has, but I decided to face the issue and learn(online, books, talking with peers, prayer, etc.) for the last couple years especially (still learning more everyday!!). I have come out a better person (I hope!! haha), and have found out how much fun dressing up can be, especially with my wife helping out!! This guy could benefit by challenging his views and maybe he will learn something about himself and his faith. I won't get preachy, but if my faith didn't allow me to question it and grow from it, then it wouldn't be worth much to me.

ReineD
02-03-2012, 02:06 AM
I'm inclined to believe that some religious folks would be motivated to stop the crossdressing because of their value-based internal conflicts, even if the CDing was not fetishistic and did not negatively impact their concentration at work or their marital relationships. I also wouldn't put it past some religious groups to use such a blog to demonize the CDing.

But what of the religious CDers who did not experience internal conflict in the beginning, yet over time found that they could not control their sexual urges or balance their lives? Might they want to stop primarily in order to regain control? They might convince themselves it is a sin in order to make it easier to stop, and they will convince themselves that God can help. Do these CDers want to stop because they believe it is a sin, or because they want to be productive at work and not have the sexual aspect of the CDing come between them and their wives?

I'd also like to know if there are out of control, non-religious fetish CDers in the same situation. What methods would they use if they wanted to regain control of their lives?

I'm not suggesting that all fetish dressers lose control, but it is a matter of degree just as it is with alcohol. A small percentage of people simply will be impacted negatively by the sexual aspect of the CDing, just as most people can enjoy the benefits of alcohol, while others will become alcoholic.

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I've also deleted a post in this thread that was overly sarcastic in its criticism of the religious stance, and also the response to it by another member.

I know that we cannot stay away from mentioning the fact that religion may play a role in the blog owner to want to stop, but I do not want this thread to degenerate into a discussion of how various religions view the CDing and whether these views are right or wrong. This type of discussion belongs in the Religious Discussion section.

So please folks, keep your focus away from religion in this thread, else it will be closed. The quote in the OP focused on the progression of the CDing and the blog owner's wish to stop.

Kaitlyn Michele
02-03-2012, 08:22 AM
SHAME
SHAME
SHAME

That site is about shame.
Leave religion out of it..
When a person is ashamed (for whatever reason, it is not always religion) then this is what happens...

His response to his shame is evident in his posts.. Shame is about being a wrong person, a lesser being...I am not worthy!!!...shame is an incredibly powerful thing to feel, and it dominates you because shame is about who you are...
It dominates so much so that he betrays his true nature through whatever stuff he posts...

Self control is totally different matter...crossdressing less because your wife doesnt like it is about love and self control..

i feel sad for him, because i have felt ashamed about being transsexual, and i know how horrible that feels

STACY B
02-03-2012, 08:32 AM
Wish they would stop !!! Then when I go to the store I wont have to worry about them being out of my size ,, There is nothing worse than a getting all dolled up an going to the store and already know what your going for an just to have some other lady wanna be hed already got the last pair os size 12 shoes that you wanted :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh: Crappppppppp so all those that want to give it up esspecialy around where I live go ahead makes it easyer for the rest of us , But always remember one thing just keep it to your self about what YOU want an dont want !!!!!!!! Ya know what I always say ????? SEE BELOW

Piora
02-03-2012, 01:10 PM
Does not describe me at all.

Doesn't describe me either.


The devil made me do it! Lol. I posted a comment on About... Let's see if ut gets posted.. Its waiting moderation... I'm thinking not...

Probably not, although if they are open-minded, they will post both sides of the topic.


His thoughts are just as legit as anyone else's and I respect his observation of his crossdressing just as much as I do with someone at the other end of the thought spectrum

As do I, but I have noticed that this is the only type of situation marked for discussion....as if that alone was representative of every other situation that would occur. As crossdressers, we all know that isn't true. We have a multitude of people on this site, that have many different reasons to do what we do. People reading this blog will perceive this one situation as a cookie-cutter type of behaviour, when that is simply incorrect. That to me, is where the problem lies.


If you look at the right side menu you'll see links with a religious factor. So I see how this blog is motivated.

Of course. I find that most are. Once religion enters the picture, then rational, logical, cool-headed discussion goes right out the window.


If anyone needs to quit and can quit more power to them.:) I'll keep on dressing though because I don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong and my emotional well being hinges on my dressing up. Girl time!!!

It's really the same as anything else in life. Something taken to extremes can cause problems. But this is one situation, and one case. Not everybody will act like this guy. Lots of us have no problems with any kind of behaviour addiction....including crossdressing. Look how many of us have quit crossdressing because we didn't feel a need to do it for literally years....and I include myself in that situation. I have always prided myself as being in control of what I do. I'd say most of us on here can say the same. But my biggest problem with any religious-based blogs is that they look at one situation and then go on to preach the evils of that 'lifestyle' - as if every one of us who crossdresses is headed down the same road eventually.

Foxglove
02-03-2012, 01:53 PM
A nice quote from this website:

"However, what many don’t realize is that the devil can be the guy in blue jeans and a t-shirt. He could be your therapist, counselor, or another crossdresser."

Ah, doesn't this take me back to the good, old days, the heady days of my youth, learning about all the hidden snares in my path, so that I could grow up to be righteous and pure and holy, like I was meant to be from the beginning! What went wrong? How could I have strayed so far? I'm must have, unbeknownst to poor me, run into a crossdresser somewhere and picked up an infection, that turned out to be incurable. And no telling how many I, totally unwittingly, have infected in turn. What will it all come to in the end?

KarenCDFL
02-03-2012, 03:26 PM
If that site and the person behind it are actually real, it looks like someone was so confused, they made the mistake of picking up a bible or went to see a religious therapist.

Masturbation is wrong? Dressing is so wrong that now that I have stopped my life is wonderfull! (paraphrasing).

Honestly, to each their own.

This is not the first time I have seen someone spout when they made a big change in their life that was so humongous that they feel that EVERYONE should be thinking and doing what they did.

It reminds me of what someone once told me in the same type of thought. "Their is nothing worse than an Ex-Smoker. LOL

PrettyTranny
02-03-2012, 08:30 PM
This seems to me yet again of another example of someone trundling out their soul-robbing, mind-numbing religious beliefs and then shoving them down everyone else's throats. Masturbation is healthy and cross dressing is an expression of our authentic selves so it is healthy also. The fact that this person is rotting from within because of unprovable, irrational beliefs is the true cause of his pain- not the fact that he cross dresses.

Jonianne
02-03-2012, 11:57 PM
SHAME
SHAME
SHAME

That site is about shame.
Leave religion out of it..
When a person is ashamed (for whatever reason, it is not always religion) then this is what happens...

I'm glad you pointed that out. I was trying to think of the right word, but you got it exactly right. He is certainly struggling with immense shame.