OMG and you got boobs to LOL

[Jennifer8]

I’m sorry this came out so long just it like so much happen all at once. I spell checked it to thou. All my mistakes made me see ya my writing sucks so I should stop cursing and think more like homework. Sorry about my other posts bein a "teenage girl" mess. LOL

My mom is cool and I love her and all but Stacy’s mom understands me more I guess is like she’s a second mom to me and we like take turns living at each others house all the time. So I’m at Stacy’s and she he had to work so I was going to leave but her mom said I could hangout there with her cause she knew my mom wasn’t around and Id be sitting home alone.
So were talking and she’s asking why I do the stuff I do then says Stacy told her about the clothes. We talked for a while and well she asked if I was afraid what Stacy thinks and do I want to do more. I didn’t answer and finally she says let me help you be a girl. I was totally shocked! I just sat there thinking I didn’t know what to say and I finally asked her well what do you mean be a girl?!? She’s like just let me try some little things. UHH Like what? Your hair can be nicer and maybe something not black on your nails. OK you know I can do that. And maybe trim those eyebrows can I do them just a bit they will grow back. But that’s it? So I said ya and took the polish I had off and took a shower.
She did my eyebrows and straightened my hair and they looked great I mean nobody likes a unibrow right? And all this time she’s like not to much? You doing ok? Ya this ain’t to bad. And I did my nails quick. Then she’s like some makeup? Im like well I can do that and she’s like no not your way more like a girls. LOL. I did do my eyeliner myself lol and she did the rest she one eye and kept showing me like keep going? Ya its ok you can just do it it comes off right? lol I looked like a girl you know uh more like a girl.
OK come see what I picked out. Wait what?!? What stuff? Clothes. When? When I was in the shower DUH! All she kept saying was we can stop if you want and you ok. Come on I will buy you ice cream when were done lol it’s this joke like please please one more thing I promise. OK after trying a bunch of stuff I was wearing a denim skirt gray legings gray boots a blue top and gray hoodie. Like totally a outfit Stacy would rock out. Til I like raided her clothes with her mom LOL I never noticed for a girl that does not like being called girlie she has a lot of girlie clothes.

We talked more about me and me and Stacy and me thinking maybe Stacy liking me more then friends and I fell on the couch. I wanted to change before she got home cause her mom said we had to talk me and Stacy about me and her. BUT I got woke up by Stacy yelling OMG! Look at you and a skirt and OMG you have boobs to! That made me laugh and feel better and not all weird being in front of her like this. LOL After she like calmed down and looked me over and spun me around she dragged me to her room.
So Im sitting on her bed while she’s taking her makeup off and her mom comes out of her room and looks at me and I looked at her then Stacy then her again and I guess she saw the scared look on my face because she tells Stacy to go inside and for me to stay. uhhh. She was talking for like 1/2hr and like all I kept hearing over n over again was confused fragile emotional and girl.
So Stacy comes back in and says go talk to my mom while I change. Not like mean or get out but when she said it I felt like she didn’t want me seeing her change. So I asked her mom what happened?!? Why did she throw me out? She didn’t. I wanted to tell you everything is going to be fine and we are here for you ok. What?!? What about the other thing? And she said Stacy will explain. Ok so like is it ok for us to you know be inside together still? Its ok so go talk to her.
I totally got all this stuff with me and Stacy so wrong!!!! I’m an idiot. All this stuff I thought she was doing because maybe she liked me liked me was because your like one of the girls. She feels safe around me. She didn’t think it means anything. Were just friends OK. So you never liked me ever that way? No I’m sorry you got the wrong idea. BUT I didn’t! It made me feel sort of weird and stupid cause I could not tell the diff btw friends and want to be your girlfriend. I’m glad in a way cause she is such a great friend to me and it was confusing cause I like her and the stuff she does is nice but it made me feel weird before but now it’s cool I’m happy she loves me. You know like a friend. :) And I don't have to sleep on the couch:thumbsup:

[Sammy777]

Holy hole in the donut batman that's a lot of reading.
75 views and no comments yet has to be some kind of a record in here :lol2:

Seriously though. It sounds like you need to think about what you really want to do.
Still much confusion in this one there is Obi wan.

I read this whole thing and noticed you never once said how YOU feel about all this.


And I don't have to sleep on the couch:thumbsup:That's always a good sign. Couch bad - Bed good - even if you are friends.
You're better off without the whole "friends with benefits" thing. It usually does not end well.

[jillleanne]

Good heavens, Sammy is right!!!! I can't believe Willow did not ask for comments. Good for you Willow, you must have a fan in me because I get great pleasure reading your posts. There's something about you that intrigues me enough to follow your adventures. I believe it's your innocence and openness and the pleasure you get from posting your real life experiences. I do hope you are saving these for further use some day down the road. That is a wonderful story Willow and your discoveries are part of the pleasures and sadness you will experiencce in life.
Willow, do me a favor please. Because of my age and as a result of my lifestyle in the late 60's, I cannot hold my breath as long as you so try to use a 'period followed by a capital letter' in your sentences once in awhile, just for me if you would, so i can stop and take a breath of air once in awhile, ok? If you don't, I'll understand.

[Stephenie S]

I have deletedd my post due to editing.

(and my remarks were FAR from rude)

[Debra Russell]

Willow - I want to see pic's of you after her mom did your makup and dressed you --- sounds like soooo..... much fun, keep posting and cherish your friends ...............................Debra

[larry]

Is this a fantasy story ?

[cdsara]

So is she willing to keep helping you dress and perfect your look?

[stacycoral]

Willow, your a lucky girl to have a great friend in Stacy, also how cool is her mom, girl i wish i could have had friends like this when i was a teenager, Show the repect due to Stacy, and sounds like you have a couple supported friends for life, I have teenage girls myself now, i know that your used to texing and not write stories. Willow, just tell Stacy's mom thanks from me, let you be you.

[MarcyRex]

Stacy's mom took a chance she read you right. Congrats on your girl club membership sponsor!

[RADER]

You are lucky to have friends like that.
Rader

[Veronica27]

As you said, and many of the others agreed, your writing sucks. That does not mean that you do not have an interesting story to tell. Whether it is true, or the product of a vivid imagination fueled by your fantasies and daydreams, doesn't really matter. It can still make for an interesting read with a few very simple suggestions. As a matter of fact, you express an innocence that is quite refreshing in this day and age. I do not blame you for your lack of eloquence, but rather place the blame on two things: the state of modern education and the overall sloppiness of communication that has resulted from so-called technological advancements.

So how can you improve your writing style?

1 Take your time, and think about the flow of your ideas. As others have pointed out, use shorter sentences that reflect one complete thought, idea, incident etc.

2. I counted approximately 20 uses of the word "like" that were totally unnecessary, and serve only to disrupt the flow of the idea. Concentrating on avoiding such words in your writing helps to avoid them in speech as well. They can be irritating to those who listen to you speak, and often stop them from grasping your ideas. Other examples, (not noticed in your writing), are disruptives words or phrases such as "right", and "know what I mean".

3 Learn the difference between words such as to, too and two, and were and we're, to name two examples. Several times, I had to go back and reread a passage, because my mind was grasping "to", when you were meaning "too", and the thought was not making sense to me. Texting has led to this type of error.

4. Spellcheck is useful, but is not foolproof, because of the anomalies of the English language. Take a moment to reread your entry before posting, concentrating on whether or not what you have written is clear and understandable. Can you follow it, or do you stumble over some sentences? If you have difficulty, others certainly will.

5. Attempt to use correct grammar as you know it, but clarity can be more important than whether or not you dangled a participle, or said who instead of whom.

6 You broke your story into paragraphs, but make sure that you leave a line between them. Breaking your story into paragraphs at the correct spot, is important in keeping the reader interested and not bogged down by a long drawn out read. Like good sentence structure, good paragraphs keep the reader going.

Keep the stories coming, they are enjoyable.

Veronica

[J'lyn GG]

Okay, here comes debbie downer. But, what her mom did and said, sounds a little creepy to me. Maybe its just the way you wrote it. But, the way she kept asking if you were alright and if she could keep going? Well, yeah...If it happened just the way you said... well, I think if I were your mother, I might advise you to steer clear of alone time with Stacy's mom.
Also, give your mom some credit. She may not be willing to do all those things with you, but as its been said many times on this forum, its easier to accept and experiment, when its in someone else's backyard.

[prettytoes]

Wow! That would have fulfilled my ultimate teenage fantasy! I used to sit and stare at the cheerleaders, like most teenage guys did. I was wondering how it would feel to wear that skirt and sweater, and if I could do makeup as good as she did, or if she might help me apply makeup. Most guys were thinking "I'd sure like to nail that", while I was thinking "I'd sure like to wear that cute outfit"!
Willow, you are very lucky to have a friend like Stacy, and her mom. Make sure to thank them both for what they do for you, and let them know how much it means to you.

[Jennifer8]

I know my writing sucks but I have no other people to talk to about this and getting all this out calms me down. I draw way better then I type or write. Thank you everyone for trying to help me write better. I have all this stuff in my head and sometimes I have a hard time getting it to make some sorta sence when I type it. that took me like over 2 hours to make it not be 1 big hot mess it was 2am I was tired and figured good enough. I couldnt sleep still and still feel like crap.

A lot of you keep sayin see someone. I cant handle that again. So please stop saying it ok.I can handle bein here.
And gawd NO she is NOT creepy!! why would you say that?? She took the time to go online to look up this stuff she was nice enough to talk to me alone so I wasnt embaressed in front of stacy you know I left out the part where I was crying for like a hour and she said its ok and sometimes theres boys that are girls inside and her n stacy are ok if I want to be a girl I told her idk what iam . we talked about stacy raggin me about dooing more n how Im scared of shed think of me n thats why she did that. OK!! so dont call her creepy cause she gives more of shit about me then my mom does right now.

Im sorry if I tryed to keep what little self respect for me I have right now n left parts out n made sound diff then what happen

[Jennifer8]

Is this a fantasy story ?
I WISH IT WAS!!!!
No this is my totally ****ed up life. Im sorry it sounds that way to you and maybe I didnt write it now right maybe I tried to make it sound better for some reason cause I didnt want to I wasnt ready to show you just how miserable my life is most days. How me and my mom barely talk n why I hang onto Stacy cause its her that keeps the assholes away most days that get a kick outta treatin m e like shit and some walkin talking ****ing punching bag prob becuase they figure if they leave me alone maybe they can get in her pants. that my friends are my friends more cuase they are Stacys and got used to haaving me around . How would you like gettin bein a year older then everybody else cause you cant figure out school how I get called names every day. if this is some fantasy then please someone wake me up cause it ore like a nightmare most days.

[Jill Devine]

Hey there Willow. Sounds like you are facing some tough and stressful situations. By the sound of it, you have been blessed with a great friend who also happens to have an amazing mother. That's a positive so your life doesn't suck. And maybe you have made friend's through Stacy but that is ok - lots of people make friends through friends.
Here are some positive things to dwell on:
1. You have a great friend who has a great mom
2. You are not totally in the closet (which is a terrible place to be)
3. You are young and have your whole life to grow into a stunning young lady (if you so choose)

Believe it or not: there are people here who would trade places with you!

Time flies by and before you know it you will be grown up. It gets better!

[Kim_Bitzflick]

Willow,

I would like to say I understand your position, but I can only empathize with you to a certain point. I was picked on when I was in school but I don't think it was as bad as you have it. I had more female friends than male.

As for your writing, the quote below explains a lot.


I draw way better then I type or write. Thank you everyone for trying to help me write better.

I think people who are artistic are not very good writers. But I admire you for taking the time to write and share your story. You don't know how many people you will help just by posting it.

Hang in there. You have a good friend and her mother. I hope it works out well for you.

[Raychel Torn]

Willow, yes your writing could improve but that's not why your on this forum so don't let that stop you from posting. This is a place where you should feel free to share. I think it's great that you were willing tell us your story. I found it very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I also think that what Stacy's Mom did was very nice, and Stacy sounds like a good friend. Most of us would have loved to have had such accepting people in our life at your age. Good luck.

[AnitaH]

Willow:

I will echo what others have said here. I enjoy your reading about your experiences. It's great that your friend and her mom seem to be understanding and they except you for who you are. There's at least 2 people in the world who know you and accept you that is something to hold onto. Like others here I wish anyone would have been that understanding when I was younger. Being totally in the closet is a painful and very lonely place to be even when the rest of life appears to be great. Hang in there and hang onto such a good friend.

AnitaH

[Longing2be-Trisha]

Hi Willow!

I am so jealous that you have a friend like Stacy and with such an understanding mother who is wanting to help you. I like many others here had no one like Stacy and her mom to confide, especially a girl friend and her mom. You ROCK GIRL!! Just be yourself I love your writing style, it reminds me of my daughter's writing. If I didn't know any better I thought you sound like a teenage girl. I would have loved to see a photo of you after all that work, it sounds like you were an uncut diamond and and Stacy's mom did some cutting and polishing to bring out the true what was already there a very pretty teenage girl.

Hugs

[12Andy777]

I am so envious of your friendship with Stacy and her mom! I'm 18 and I wish I had people like that in my life. Anyway this was a wonderful story; I found it very uplifting. Thank you for sharing it here, Willow :).

[Foxglove]

Hello, Willow! I enjoyed your story very much, and I hope to read more from you in the future. You sound a bit confused, but who isn't? I've been confused all my life, and I envy you because you're young and have lots of time to figure things out, to figure out where you want to go. You sound pretty sharp to me, and I'm sure you'll do things a lot better than I did. I wish you lots of luck.

And, oh, yes, some people have made some remarks about your writing. Do the best you can and don't worry about it, would be my advice. You know, I've got a university degree and have been writing all sorts of stuff for many years, and yet every time I write something, I go back and check my spelling and grammar. I always find corrections to make. And I've never known anyone who wasn't in the same position. So just give us what you've got. You have some good things to say, so please keep at it.

(And you can draw! You've got me there. I can't even draw stick figures.)

Best wishes, Annabelle

[Sammy777]

Willow, I want to apologize for my initial post being rather flippant regarding your situation.
[And believe me when I say that apologizing is something I do not do very often. :doh:]

In reading your additional posts it's pretty obvious there is a lot more going on then just clothing.



A lot of you keep sayin see someone.
I cant handle that again.
I can handle bein here.I don't mean to pry, however I feel I have to ask this.
Were your previous "professional help I'm guessing" interactions related to your distress over your now apparent gender issues or were they for some other reason? Depression perhaps?
Seeking informal help such as this forum was a step in the right direction.


me and my mom barely talk

she gives more of shit about me then my mom does right now.
I hang onto Stacy cause its her that keeps the assholes away most days
they figure if they leave me alone maybe they can get in her pants.

I am sorry to hear that you and your mom do not communicate very much.
You are a very passionate person.
I say person because it is still unclear if you wish to be identified as a Guy or a Girl.
Despite your name on here you still seem to be undecided on where you stand right now.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you've become quite attached to both Stacy and her mother and how you became very emotional and feel such a strong desire to defend them [and their actions].


my friends are my friends more cause they are Stacy's and got used to having me around
I tryed to keep what little self respect for me I have right now
this is my totally ****ed up life. I wasnt ready to show you just how miserable my life is most days.

Starting friendships through friends, such as Stacy is a very common occurrence.
They may have started out as Stacy's friends but trust me they are your friends now too.

What you are going through in school is horrible.
That and these other personal issues can wreak havoc with your self esteem.
You have allies in Stacy, her mother AND your friends. Don't be afraid to turn to them for help.

Do your best and do not let your unique "writing style" stop you from expressing yourself in here.

You replied "IDK" when Stacy's mom asked you if you might be a girl inside.
To me, it seems like there is a possibility that might be true.
But ultimately that is something that only you can decipher for yourself.

There are two invite only sections you should look into joining on here:
The Young Members 18 - 25 section. and maybe the
Safe Haven (MTF Transsexuals) section.
I am sure that you will be gladly accepted in either, or both. :)

[Beth Mays]

I for one concider myself a Crossdresser.. not an editor for Readers Digest!
Write in your own style, dress in your own style.. mastakes in both can be corrected.


Beth

[Debb]

Willow.

This stuff is hard; it's harder when you're 19, when you've gotta deal with all the social pressures that begin to build in this time of your life.

You are dealing with it.. be proud of yourself for that. Many of us ran from it when we were your age, only to realize later in life that we wished we'd dealt with it earlier!

I am way jealous that you've got at least some supporters. I'm a parent, and I've always found it harder to deal with my own kids, rather than to deal with other peoples' kids .. that might help explain your mom's position. It's gonna be hard for her, and if she tries to turn an ignorant eye to it, it's only gonna get harder for both of you.

Without being or seeming insistent, show her the best sides of you. Try not to seem pushy .. think about what that might mean; it's hard to put yourself outside your own mind, to see in another's perspective, but that's something you've got to do in order to get along with your mom better. Yes, she doesn't seem to try to shift perspectives .. that's where you've got some convincing to do. Spend some time trying to develop more empathy for her. I, too, am an empath, but I find it especially hard to have much empathy for those I live with ... since I get to see all the "mistakes" (those that I perceive to be mistakes) ... you probably have trouble having empathy for those you live with, too.

It's worth it in the long run. Yeah, you maybe don't wanna hear that at 19 .. gonna say it anyways.

It's worth it. Things get better.

[Veronica27]

Hi Willow

An optimistic approach to life generally leads to happiness and fulfillment. Think about the positives in your life, and they will help your to overcome the negatives. Crossdressing is an extremely therapeutic form of expression. It allows our own inner being to come to the forefront, and pushes other people's and society's expectations of what we should be and what we should do, into the background of our thoughts. We are taught, as young boys and men, to be extremely inhibited about self-expression, and crossdressing assists us in overcoming that inhibition. And the best part is that this form of therapy causes us no harm, and does not hurt anyone else.

You have an advantage that many of us older geezers didn't have. I am 72 and grew up thinking that there was nobody else like me. There were no signs of others being crossdressers, no internet to tell our stories, and only vague references to a small handful of wierdos who wore women's clothing for perverted reasons. You are able to be out to your friend and her mother which is a tremendous plus, and they seem willing to help in your journey.

Deb Weller has written an excellent post about showing empathy to others. Your friend and her mother are aware of your difficulties and are taking a positive approach to understanding and helping you overcome them. Others, including your mother, are going through their own personal struggles as well, and the best approach is to follow the example of your two friends. Show others that you care for them, want to understand them and are willing to help them, and the good vibes you receive overpower the negativity of your own dilemmas. I know it is difficult to suddenly turn things around in this way, but you start slowly and by doing little things, like listening, doing small favours and so on, and you begin to feel good about yourself.

Crossdressing, and writing about it on forums like this, are extremely healthy ways to get negativity out of your mind. Read about others adventures, and difficulties, and use the advice and knowledge you gain to help you formulate your own approach to life in general and crossdressing or transitioning (if that is your desire) specifically. You like to draw? Then do so as often as time permits, and show your work to others. Don't be overly concerned about your writing abilities. They have shown signs of improvement even on this thread. The more you write, the more proficient you will become. I provided some suggestions, not for you to obsess over them, but just as something to keep in the back of your mind when you are writing. Don't be apologetic about your writing or any other perceived shortcoming. That is negativity. Think positively.

Finally, by coming across with a positive personality, you endear yourself to others. People, as a rule, are turned off by our negativity, and it takes a positive sympathetic, and empathic person like yourself to bring out the positivity in others.

Keep writing, and I look forward to reading more of your adventures.

Veronica

[jillleanne]

I WISH IT WAS!!!!
No this is my totally ****ed up life. Im sorry it sounds that way to you and maybe I didnt write it now right maybe I tried to make it sound better for some reason cause I didnt want to I wasnt ready to show you just how miserable my life is most days. How me and my mom barely talk n why I hang onto Stacy cause its her that keeps the assholes away most days that get a kick outta treatin m e like shit and some walkin talking ****ing punching bag prob becuase they figure if they leave me alone maybe they can get in her pants. that my friends are my friends more cuase they are Stacys and got used to haaving me around . How would you like gettin bein a year older then everybody else cause you cant figure out school how I get called names every day. if this is some fantasy then please someone wake me up cause it ore like a nightmare most days.

Willow, go easy on yourself. It's not that you can't figure out school but rather school has not figured out how to teach everyone that learns differently. That Willow, is schools biggest problem, and the school systems are so wrapped up in building empires, they have forgotten their purpose.
(Thanks for slowing down and trying to use periods and capitals; much better and easier for us to read and I even get to breathe now and read at the same time. )

[sandra-leigh]

On the point of getting confused about friendship vs more: I ran in to notable troubles that way a number of times. I suspect that if I were single now, that I would probably still run in to the same issue.

How bad was it for me? This bad: I am 50 and every time in my life that I thought I was going on a date, I found out later that the other person hadn't been thinking of it as a date at all. Months later at times.

It went the opposite way, too: three women fell for me without my realizing anything more than friendship had been going on. (In the third case, I'd been falling for her at the same time, but due to circumstances I had reason to believe it was just friendship on her part, so I didn't want to say anything.)

It is often said by women that, "Guys will fall for anyone who just shows them some basic friendship", or "Most guys mistake basic friendship for interest." I don't think I got past that myself until well in to my... ummm, not so many months ago, to be honest.

It happens to many of us. I make no excuse about it. You will probably find yourself disappointed a number of times in your life. Don't feel bad about liking someone enough to feel there might possibly be a future (unless, that is, you find yourself doing it repeatedly for people who are definitely Not Available, or whom are really unsuitable people for you.)

For me, there were times when I kind of liked someone anyone, and some of their actions gave me the impression that they liked me, so I developed a feeling that I had better say something so that the two of us didn't miss the chance for something more developing. In those cases, being told No Thanks was somewhat of a relief to me, as I could let go of the stress of second-guessing the relationship. I think maybe that happened to me a fair bit when I was very lonely and wanted some relationship, and then met someone friendly, and I didn't want to lose the chance that some relationship could maybe work out. (That wasn't always the case, though: I still miss one of the women, 28 years later.)

Anyhow, don't feel bad about not knowing what is going on. Emotions are confusing at the best of times.

[Jenny Doolittle]

Hi Willow,

First off, ((((HUG))))

Life is tuff sometimes but I think you have found many many friends here in this forum. I know I already feel like a long lost aunt hearing your pleas for understanding.

As you grow older I am sure the friends you make will be long lasting and really, after high school school and you get out on your own in a world that accepts who you are, life does get better.

We all have a place in this world and you WILL find yours. I think you are already on your way with the friends you have found.

Good luck little one.

[Crysten]

Same sort of thing happened to me as a teen. No dressing though. Was seeing this girl for months. Spent a lot of time with her, thought it was going somewhere. Only to find out she had a 22 year old boyfriend who worked 12 hour shifts like 40 miles away. She told me I was just her friend and not to worry because she told her boyfriend I was gay so there wouldnt be a problem. I was crushed, of course, and stopped seeing her shortly thereafter, I figured she was dishonest with me and I didnt want any part of that. Wish her mom would have dressed me up, at least I would have gotten something out of the relationship.

[rebekkadg]

I WISH IT WAS!!!!
No this is my totally ****ed up life. Im sorry it sounds that way to you and maybe I didnt write it now right maybe I tried to make it sound better for some reason cause I didnt want to I wasnt ready to show you just how miserable my life is most days. How me and my mom barely talk n why I hang onto Stacy cause its her that keeps the assholes away most days that get a kick outta treatin m e like shit and some walkin talking ****ing punching bag prob becuase they figure if they leave me alone maybe they can get in her pants. that my friends are my friends more cuase they are Stacys and got used to haaving me around . How would you like gettin bein a year older then everybody else cause you cant figure out school how I get called names every day. if this is some fantasy then please someone wake me up cause it ore like a nightmare most days.

I love reading your posts Willow and yes your writing has improved drasticly since your first few posts but don't worry if about your writing style too much. I love seeing your passion about everything even though things don't come out clear all the time because really most the time everything that is bothering us is a lot more confusing and distressing than we can put words too. Emotions rarely make sense they just are no matter what great justification, poor justification, or lack of justification you put to them.

So keep on writing out what is going on in your life. Venting is good for you and writing it down and having to think about what your are telling people helps you figure out for yourself how you feel about things. If you aren't sure how you feel about the direction of your life there are far worse things you can do.

How do you prefer to be refrenced on this board by the way? In terms of gender pronouns do you want to be refered to as a he or a she for now? I know I am not the only one on the edge of how to refer to you. And even though it is seems like such a small thing and that it shouldn't matter, it really does change how people respond to you. Not in a good or bad way but there definitely is a different dynamic to how people respond to one another based on gender that we can try to avoid doing but end up doing anyway.

[carnut62]

Willow, You're not an idiot your just young and learning. Looking back there were several girls I was friends with that I didn't realize I could have probably had a more involved relationship with. And the ones that I wanted to have a relationship with thought of me as just a friend, and at least one I am still friends with today with no ill will. You will get better at reading this as you get older, you are young now it is your time to have fun.

So, did you enjoy the skirt and tights? Sounds like you left them on all night and you really got to clear your head with Stacy's mom and at least you know now and you don't have to agonize over is it this or that type of relationship anymore.

I came across this today and it made me think of you, but really probably every guy has been here at least once http://failbook.failblog.org/2012/02/09/funny-facebook-fails-friend-zone-application/


Hugs,
Tabitha

[Jennifer8]

Theres been a bunch of stuff going and Im gonna try to get to it and everybody that posted. Im really tryin to write better its just when i write i sometimes just sorta stare at the keys and not what im writing. I cant you knwo type type lookin at the screen and when Im done I go back and look at it. I type better with my thumbs LOL. Im trying to get my feelings out so i dont ever really know what Im gonna said til I say it. I type like i talk.
THank you everyone for the help. :)


You ROCK GIRL!! Just be yourself I love your writing style, it reminds me of my daughter's writing. If I didn't know any better I thought you sound like a teenage girl.
already there a very pretty teenage girl.
Thank you from me n Stacy she thinks so to


Hello, Willow! I enjoyed your story very much, and I hope to read more from you in the future. You sound a bit confused,

And, oh, yes, some people have made some remarks about your writing. Do the best you can and don't worry about it, would be my advice.
I am trying Thanks and Stacy n Wendy are helping
Oh thats Stacys moms name she said it silly to keep saying Stacys mom :)


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Willow, I want to apologize
professional help
you wish to be identified as a Guy or a Girl.u might be a girl inside.
WOW you write a lot LOL. Thank You. it was sorta funny :)
I saw them for other stuff and really didnt like it to much.
Being called a girl is ok for em.


Willow.
You are dealing with it.. be proud of yourself for that.
and I've always found it harder to deal with my own kids, rather than to deal with other peoples' kids .. that might help explain your mom's position.
Spend some time trying to develop more empathy for her.
Thank You :) Ya well I guess its cause Wendy can say go home when she gets tired of me LOL and my mom is stuck with me. Im trying to not fight with her.



Willow, go easy on yourself.
That Willow, is schools biggest problem,
Thanks for slowing down and trying to use periods and capitals; much better Im trying to and Im just trying to deal without makin it worse there


On the point of getting confused about friendship vs more:
"Most guys mistake basic friendship for interest."
Don't feel bad about liking someone enough to feel there might possibly be a future
Anyhow, don't feel bad about not knowing what is going on. Emotions are confusing at the best of times.

the thing that confused me with Stacy was shes really touchy-feely <her words> and that ok its just she doesnt do that stuff as much when she had a b/f. We talked and i know why she does it now so its ok and i do kinda like it.
She says if i get uncomfortable -or annoyed :Angry3: like now :) she will stop. try to stop. shes sitting next to me now poking me and holdin my arm so im typing with 1arm. she knows ive been writing stuff n thinks it great im here. and puched mein thearm for not tellin her sooner and naming this tread what she said. And were more then friends but you know not like that. She said im her bff. Thank You :)


I love reading your posts Willow and yes your writing has improved drasticly
I love seeing your passion about everything
So keep on writing out what is going on in your life.
How do you prefer to be refrenced on this board by the way?

Thank You :) I will SOmeone else asked that to. being called a girl is good for me.



You're not an idiot
, did you enjoy the skirt and tights? Sounds like you left them on all night and you really got to clear your head with Stacy's mom and at least you know now and you don't have to agonize over is it this or that type of relationship anymore.
I came across this today and it made me think of you,
Ya Stacys told me that like 100 times already.
I did and Im glad i kept it on cause Stacy said if i woulda changed before she got home she woulda beat me :)
YA I typed a big thing out about me n Stacy above.
Thank You :)

Things with me and my mom are weird and Im trying not to fight with her n we got in a fight anyway about stupid stuff and I been staying with Stacy till we get better. I still talk to her everyday to let her know im ok n shes been talking to Wendy to so its ok me bein away from her right now.

[Kaz]

Willow... you are young, explore! enjoy! Break away and figure out who you are. It is what we all have to do... friends are good... but they are mostly part of the journey... Real friends stay for ever...

[Sammy777]

Sounds like not much gets past her does it? :lol2:
Like others have said, you have a good friend there.
I hope things continue to improve for you and that you also continue to keep up the line of communications with your mom.

[Matia]

Okay, here comes debbie downer. But, what her mom did and said, sounds a little creepy to me. Maybe its just the way you wrote it. But, the way she kept asking if you were alright and if she could keep going? Well, yeah...If it happened just the way you said... well, I think if I were your mother, I might advise you to steer clear of alone time with Stacy's mom.
Also, give your mom some credit. She may not be willing to do all those things with you, but as its been said many times on this forum, its easier to accept and experiment, when its in someone else's backyard.

Agreed. And I'm quite sure if you are honest with your mum and she loves you she would give you support as well, tho much less sexually exciting :) (can't help to think this is very much like a fictionmania.tv story)

[jjjjohanne]

I'm just not convinced that this isn't a fantasy story.

[Tara D. Rose]

Hi Willow. I loved your story. I wish I could have had that kind of experience like you described when I was your age. You do look like a natural girl from your avatar picture. You remind me of myself when I was that age. Like you, I was naturally mistaken for being a real girl from 8 years old until I was 25 years old. I think I can speak for all of us on here in that, we’re here for you and will help you in any way that we can. We are your friends on here, to give you support, understanding, friendship and advice. We all want you to continue to stay with us and share all of your hopes and dreams and even your sadness if ever that may be in your life. I personally look forward to reading many more of your posts.

Please don’t take it to heart about the good members on here commenting on your typing and or writing skills. They are only trying to help you with good intentions. Yes it does need a little work, but please don’t get discouraged. I have been criticized for that on here as well, and so I have slowed down the speed of my typing which helped me. We’re all here for you. You are doing better. Heck, I can't even do the multiple posting on here. Welcome aboard my young friend.

Love, Peace, & Respect,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Tara

[Foxglove]

I'm just not convinced that this isn't a fantasy story.

This question has already been asked, and Willow's denied it. If we're not going to take people at face value on this forum, then just about anything here can be regarded as fantasy. I've no doubt there is some fantasy on this forum--but if I wanted to question somebody's truthfulness, I think I'd at least give a reason for my doubts. Willow is telling her story, and I myself see no reason to question her truthfulness.

[Sammy777]

I hate to overstep my bounds here, although it does seem to be "my thing" lately. :)

I went to "that site" and all I have to say is: :eek:
Those stories make cheesy Fabio covered romance novels look like war and peace.

Funny I don't remember seeing the OP mentioning things like:
oh my prettiest ruffled pink VS panties
french maid, cheer leading or schoolgirl outfits
or 10' minis and 8' stilettos [Sorry I had too] :lol2:

What I do see however is obviously a scared, confused, bullied kid that definitely has some unresolved issues to deal with. And on that note, this wraps up Pop Psych 101 for today. :battingeyelashes: