Male/ female hormones

[Karenmarie]

Please don't get sick, but many "boys" feel that if they drink the urine from women, the female hormones will help a man if he does want to be more feminine, AND the same goes for women drinking men's urin.

Google Urine Therapy and there are a million sites in favor of drinking your own urin for therapy and drinking others for "play".

There seems to be nothing un-healthy about this as long as the person you are drinking from has no sickness such as aids or std's.

But, it seems that the benefits of a boy or a girl doing this for the hormones....... seems to be nothing that I can find.

[Kate T]

Please don't get sick, but many "boys" feel that if they drink the urine from women, the female hormones will help a man if he does want to be more feminine, AND the same goes for women drinking men's urin.

Google Urine Therapy and there are a million sites in favor of drinking your own urin for therapy and drinking others for "play".

Each to their own. Not my cup of tea.


There seems to be nothing un-healthy about this as long as the person you are drinking from has no sickness such as aids or std's.

OK, can we just clear something up here regarding transmission of HIV in particular. HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus), one of the causative agents of AIDS (Acquired ImmunoDeficiency Syndrome), is quite a fragile virus. It requires almost direct access to the blood stream in order to survive and replicate. So in order for the transmission to occur in the described activity it would require the consumer of the urine to have some sort of oral lesion allowing direct access to the blood stream. Now hepatitis B or C are a different story entirely.

In addition urine contains high levels of urea and creatinine, metabolites excreted by the kidney as well as typically being quite hypertonic (highly concentrated). What does this mean. The urea is likely to cause gastric irritation and gastroenteritis, absorption of urea and creatinine could cause increased levels in the blood stream and various toxic effects there and it will also make you dehydrated as it absorbs fluids from your system.


But, it seems that the benefits of a boy or a girl doing this for the hormones....... seems to be nothing that I can find.

I would suggest marginal at best. The levels excreted in the urine and then their subsequent absorption is likely to require such an enormous volume of consumption that one would require would mean an almost constant drip line into your mouth!

[Hope]

Each to their own. Not my cup of tea.

I see what you did there...

[noeleena]

Hi,

If this is the case that drinking your or others urine , then why is the body exit there for, if it was good we would be like birds & they dont pee, yet any fluid is still exited, even the birds, the body is designed in such a way as to exit all waste, & your body must to be able to function ,

& no it is not good to drink those body fluids, & no you wont get hormones that would help in any way, before any change youd be dead because your body can not handle it, not to mension the endoctrine system of the body,

Ask a Endocrinologist & see what they have to say,

...noeleena...

who comes up with these hair brain idears, & nothing unhealthy. yea right, miss info there, have these people who seem to ne proponets of this done any body & blood tests to conferm its good, dought it,

...noelena...

[Melody Moore]

FFS, of course there is nothing. Do you really think there is any credibility on this?

The fact is you would have to drink a tanker load of urine collected from a thousand
pregnant mares to see any significant effects. Premarin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premarin) is collected from PREgnant
MARee urINe, but then the urine is refined to produce a medicinal quantity of Estradiol.

What is even more shocking is they get the mares pregnant for urine collection and
keep them in shocking conditions on urine collection devices for nearly a whole year.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8i4NUNWkBA

So any form of drinking or consumption of human or horse
piss is not exactly my cup of tea either. :yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky:

[Beth Mays]

Well all I can think of is EWWW!
I Think I will stick to beer!
Barley, Rice, Hopps, Yeast, spring water.... better than corn flakes!

[Frances]

What is wrong with seeing an endocrinologist and having HRT?

[Julia_in_Pa]

Karen,

I find that you bringing this up is leading me to believe your a very interesting person.
With that said, why the h3ll would you do it?
At the very least you can find reputable sources of HRT online without a prescription.
I certainly do not recommend that but as it would compare to drinking urine it would be far safer.
Drinking urine opens you up to disease.
Why not just take the legitimate route by seeing health professionals concerning HRT?



Julia

[Melody Moore]

The fact is you would have to drink a tanker load of urine collected from a thousand
pregnant mares to see any significant effects. Premarin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premarin) is collected from PREgnant
MARee urINe, but then the urine is refined to produce a medicinal quantity of Estradiol.
I also wanted to add that this is also the same issue with herbals alternatives for hormone
therapy. Research has clearly proven that these so called 'natural' alternatives don't deliver
anywhere near enough estradiol to really be proven effective in helping menopausal women.

Hang about what am I saying? I must be a fool for denouncing this when there is a lot of money to be
made here. So ok if you really want to feminise your body you can buy my urine at $100 a quart plus
postage & handling. Or alternatively I can pull a few weeds out of my garden, dry it out and sell it at
$100 for a one ounce bag plus postage & handling if these alternatives really means that much to you. :heehee:

[Aprilrain]

Wow! Talk about making life unnecessarily difficult for oneself. If I told my Endo I wanted to take 12 mgs of estradiol everyday he'd probably write me a script for it. Look at how easy it is to get pain meds! All you have to do is say you have back pain! It's not hard to get effective prescription drugs from Drs, why drink pee??

[EnglishRose]

They manufacture bioidentical Estradiol for a reason.

[arbon]

Please don't get sick, .

To late - yuk. Can't believe people do that.

[Kirsty_D]

What is wrong with seeing an endocrinologist and having HRT?

Probably because people want to feminize there body without coming out or having this on there medical record and to be totally honest if there was an easy route to do this (feminizing my body) I'd do it.

[Bree-asaurus]

Probably because people want to feminize there body without coming out or having this on there medical record and to be totally honest if there was an easy route to do this (feminizing my body) I'd do it.

Well, since this is the transexual forum, I think it's pretty much assumed that she's asking why a transexual would drink pee rather than get the proper hormones. For us, HRT is the easy route ;)

[Jessinthesprings]

There is an estrogen for HRT (paramin?) developed from equine urine which is collected from pregant mares. I think for it to be high enough concentration the mare has to be pregnant... so logic would dictate the same requirement in humans would be nessicary... However, there are easier ways to get estrogen.

I had heard in the days before the "pill" ladies of the night would use this to prevent pregnancy, but I've never seen any good evidence for this.

[Aprilrain]

There is an estrogen for HRT (paramin?) developed from equine urine which is collected from pregant mares. I think for it to be high enough concentration the mare has to be pregnant... so logic would dictate the same requirement in humans would be nessicary... However, there are easier ways to get estrogen.

I had heard in the days before the "pill" ladies of the night would use this to prevent pregnancy, but I've never seen any good evidence for this.

the precursor to Premarin was made from pregnant human urine, obviously that is no way to make a viable and marketable drug so they took the concept and applied it to horses. Premarin is the benchmark against which all other estrogens are compared simple because there is over 60 years use and research surrounding this drug. Its expensive carries the risk of ringworm infection and has a host of other estrogens in it that may or may not actually do anything to humans, In all likelihood they just get peed out.

oddly enough Premarin is considered a "synthetic" hormone even though it comes from a natural source where as synthetically manufactured 17B estradiol is often mistakenly thought of as being "natural" because it is bioidentical.

[Kristy_K]

I think I would stick to HRT even if it was without a prescription. I also think getting hormones would be easier than getting some females pee and what ever she may have to go with it or in it.

Kristy

[JulieK1980]

I think this "urine therapy" is another name for "watersports"

To each their own. :puke:

[Bree-asaurus]

I think this "urine therapy" is another name for "watersports"

To each their own. :puke:

OH YAY! WATER SPORTS! Wait... why are you taking off your pants....