Question about The TS and enjoyment of smooth skin and garments.

[NCAmazon]

Ok, since I'm in the discovery phase of my process I had this burning question I had to ask among TS girls on HRT or even at other phases.

Do you get an enjoyment out of having smooth shaved legs, wearing soft fabric clothes , stockings and panties??

Obviously many CDs or males will get a kick out of this and this is often a result out of the testosterone kicking in and male libido.

But is there still a feeling of sensuality and excitement with having smooth shaved legs, or wearing a sexy skirts, panties or stockings when you are TS or on HRT. Or does it just feel mundane and routine?

I enjoy the feeling even when my libido is not kicking in. It feels relaxing and tingly in a way.

[JohnH]

I don't wear panties or stockings as a rule. I usually just wear Hanes men's underpants most of the time along with standard men's clothes. Interesting thing - I have much less of a desire to crossdress from a male point of view since I have gone on M2F HRT. I do have a femme haircut and wear clear nailpolish on my long fingernails and frequently use lipstick.

However, it is nice to lie in bed and have on a nice silky nightgown and have soft skin that is shaved and real breasts. My dreams are genderless for the most part, and then I wake up and I really feel like a woman that I am in mind. (My wife says I am not much of a man. :) )

Johanna

[kellycan27]

What woman doesn't want to look sexy and feel pretty? Sure those things get to be pretty much routine, but still there are those moments. When these types of questions pop up I often see answers that are tempered with a little disclaimer. "sure", but the clothes and such are NOT the motivating factor. True as that may be I honestly have to say that personally I find them to be another wonderful perk of being female. I love the soft, Lacey, silky, pretty, sexy and dainty feel against my skin. Sometimes it is sexual in as much as I enjoy the admiration I receive... The look in the eyes of my SO while he is gazing upon my female form. His excitement fuels mine. At other times it's a testament to my own personal idea of femininity. I have visited few other TS sites and for the most part the general consensus was that ( my words) you can be a woman, as long as you're not too much of a woman. Discussions regarding clothing and make -up were strictly "cross-dresser" topics and had little to do with being a woman. I even visited a TS site where these topics were actually not allowed. The thing I found odd was that topics on guns, military service, race cars, hunting and the like were often welcome topics of discussion. While they may not be exclusively "male" topics, I find them to be things that more likely would appeal to men rather than women, (but here again it's just my opinion). I have a lot of GG friends and when we get together we do talk about clothing,hair and make-up. While these things may not define a woman, they are a great way to express our femininity, and how we feel about ourselves. YMMV. :2c:

[Sandra1746]

I love the feeling of my shaved legs and the silky feeling of fem undergarments and I'm 'just' a CD person. One line I like is; "men must wear burlap while women may wear silk." When I was 'convincing' my wife that women's panties were a good idea I challenged her to try the "Fruit of the Looms" for a day. She lasted less than an hour and conceded my point.

The shaved legs are a different level but they feel great either when I'm wearing tights (like all winter) or now when it's warm enough for shorts.

Hugs,
Sandra1746

[Bree-asaurus]

I'm sure both men and women like cloths that feel smooth and soft. But men are supposed to be macho, so they don't like to admit it.

Of course I like cloths that feel good, but like others have said, that's not why I wear them. And it's not super sensual and exciting... unless it's a super sexy outfit or lingerie that boosts my self esteem and catches my boyfriend's eye ;)

It's just a perk of being a woman; you're allowed to like soft, pretty things ;)

[Julia_in_Pa]

Hi,

Five years ago after transition I would not have been caught dead without a dress or skirt on.
As time went by I became more and more integrated into the role as me and the need to express femininity through clothing pretty much disappeared.
I wear pantsuits and flats to work and on my days off I'm usually in jeans or shorts with a t-shirt and running shoes.
This happens to many transitioned women because you are you 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
After a while you just want to be comfortable.
My SO and I dine out quite a bit including upper scale eateries. On those occasions where it's 40.00 a plate I'll be in a dress and heels.


Julia

[NCAmazon]

Just as many women don't wear dresses and skirts and don't enjoy wearing them, there are many that want to wear them as much as possible. Some women don't shave their legs because they say they wear pants all the time.

When you watch shaving cream commercials and razor commercials for women you always see a beautiful woman in the bath enjoying the feel of her shaved legs. Not sure if that's just for advertising or something that is normal to feel . I know a CD can really enjoy that. Does a TS?

Or if its for a special occassion or event is there a turn on when or excitement when you are dressed up and feeling feminine and sexy? I see some here answered yes. Maybe this goes to the reason at nightclubs and bars women feel the need to spend a lot of time getting dressed up compared to men on average.

[Traci Elizabeth]

My simple answer is that I am a woman so obviously I wear every thing other women wear. I do like to look good and wear classy sexy clothes BUT I don't dwell on them or how soft they feel. Just as I don't think most women dwell on the femininity of their clothes.

Same goes for boobs. When transitioning most would die for female breast and as they grow we tend to be consumed in them BUT after we have transitioned to a woman the newness wears off and boobs are just a mater of fact. Your a woman so of course you have boobs, no big deal and certainly nothing to dwell on.

[Bree-asaurus]

When you watch shaving cream commercials and razor commercials for women you always see a beautiful woman in the bath enjoying the feel of her shaved legs. Not sure if that's just for advertising or something that is normal to feel . I know a CD can really enjoy that. Does a TS?

It's all marketing BS: "Oh... look how awesome you'll feel when you use our razor! GIVE US YOUR MONEY!"

Shaving is just a chore... nothing like the commercials.


Or if its for a special occassion or event is there a turn on when or excitement when you are dressed up and feeling feminine and sexy? I see some here answered yes. Maybe this goes to the reason at nightclubs and bars women feel the need to spend a lot of time getting dressed up compared to men on average.

Bingo!

[EnglishRose]

It's all marketing BS: "Oh... look how awesome you'll feel when you use our razor! GIVE US YOUR MONEY!"

Shaving is just a chore... nothing like the commercials.


What she said. It takes ages, the shower water goes cold on me, AND I have to watch out for those red bumpies all over my upper legs! All this to rid oneself of ugly hair.

[Badtranny]

I like to wear cute clothes. I wear "women's" Tshirts for one reason, they have a scoop neck and fits me tighter than a boxier dude's T. Likewise I wear panties because they look better under my tighter clothes. I don't wear a bra unless I absolutely have to, and I like my body to be smooth because hair is not attractive. Pantyhose NEVER feels sexy to me, though garters do. I have no idea how a GG or any other TS feels about clothes but my wardrobe doesn't turn me on.

Every now and then a certain outfit will strike me as particularly sexy, but that's because I think men will like it. A CD by definition enjoys the clothes and the accessories specifically. There is nothing wrong with that but I've never felt that way.

[ReineD]

Do you get an enjoyment out of having smooth shaved legs, wearing soft fabric clothes , stockings and panties??

If you're interested in also knowing if GGs feel this way, I'm happy to share my experience. If not, just PM me and I'll delete my answer. :)

I love feeling fresh. It's the kind of feeling I suppose everyone feels just out of the shower, either putting on freshly washed clothes or wearing freshly washed PJs and sinking into a bed made with freshly washed sheets. :) It's that "aaaah" feeling. If I'm in a sexy mood with my SO then it feels good to wear the silky sexy things but if I'm not, it also feels good (a different kind of good) getting into cozy, soft flannels.

I just ended a four week bout of not shaving my legs. My leg hair was super long. I was toying with the idea of beginning to wax them using at-home kits. I could feel a barrier between my skin and my clothes. It didn't feel unpleasant, nor did it make me feel masculine or anything, but it did feel unnatural since I've been shaving my legs since I was a teenager. My legs just felt furry. lol. I ended up going on a trip without having gotten around to ordering the waxing paraphernalia, so I caved in and ended up shaving them. :p

[Aprilrain]

I like to put together outfits I think are cute but are also comfortable, most of my wardrobe is cotton including my Hanes her way panties and my under wireless Coobie bras. When I say cute I mean something another woman might comment on, not neccarily "sexy". When I'm getting dressed I have to think wether or not I'll be doing something that will require pants otherwise If its warm I prefer to wear cassual cotton dresses or skirts. I ussually go out on friday nights with some GFs and a lot of times ill get dressed up just because its fun. If im going out with my BF for a special occasion I get really dressed up. I want to look elegant and beautiful and I want to impress my BF. Often times those clothes aren't exactly comfortable. As far as shaving goes I usually go about 3 days. There is nothing sexy or sensual about shaving nor is it chore, it only takes me a few minutes because I have spent a small fortune on laser from my waist to my knees, well worth it! I can't remember what it's like to have hairy legs so basically smooth legs is just an every day thing for me, I could be stubbly and unless you ran your hand down my leg you wouldn't really see it. I do sometimes notice the feel of my dress or skirt on my legs and it feels nice. Sometimes it's nice to feel the closeness of tights, like a second skin, my favorite tights are acrylic cotton blends, Im to crazy about the feel of satin or nylon but I like the look.

[Jessinthesprings]

Nope. Does nothing for me. Do I prefer the feeling over the alternitive? Then yes, but I have not shaved my legs in two weeks. I just don't see the point if I'm the only one that sees/feels it.

[amielts]

I hate having hairy skin, but do not feel particularly excited about smooth skin.

[alluts]

definately relaxes me too, anuff stress around , enjoy what you like to do!

[RachelOKC]

If I want to feel sexy or sensual, I need to start with something that makes me feel good about myself. Clothes that are stylish, fit well, are comfortable, and flattering to my figure go a long way there. I'll feel a lot better about wearing a tee shirt that meets those criteria rather than a "sexy" dress that doesn't. Most days it's just jeans and an Old Navy polo or tee...but I look in the mirror and I still feel good. Certainly don't need skirts and hose to do that.

Nothing wrong with those of course and I'm plenty happy to wear them on a nice occasion like when I had some girlfriends over last week for fondue. They showed up in jeans and sweats and I felt a bit overdressed in even in a very casual dress. (My wife wore a skirt, so it wasn't just me) But hey, it was MY dinner party and I wanted to look nice for it! So I did, for me, and we had a hell of a great time. (I wasn't keen on the wine hangover the next morning though.)

Oh, and I like smooth legs but I also don't like turning my sensitive skin to hamburger to keep 'em that way. That pretty much means I shave my legses only every few weeks or when I expect I'll be wearing a dress...which just isn't that often.

[Starling]

I love to feel smooth, and I'm lucky to have essentially hairless legs and arms. I didn't like this as a young man, but now I'm grateful I won't need full-body electrolysis. The only areas I have to worry about are the backs of my hands and fingers, and the tops of my feet and toes. I'm hoping whatever hair I have on my abdomen (which no one sees anyway) will be zapped by HRT.

Now that I have accepted who I am and where I'm going, when I choose clothes I aim for suitable and pretty, and I try to buy things that will mix and match with what I already have. I'm not super-femme. I used to be really into stockings and pantyhose, but now I prefer to go barelegged if I can.

My one nod toward sexy is in shoes. I have many pairs, even after throwing out or donating scores of them that seemed like a good idea at the time. Right now, my obsession is shoes that are pretty, sexy and comfortable.

Four-inch heels are a thing of the past, unless I'm going to be in a wheelchair.

:) Lallie

[Rianna Humble]

Yes, I enjoy having smooth legs, wearing comfortable clothes, stockings and so on, but it has nothing to do with my libido (what libido I hear you cry).

I like the smooth skin because to me hairy bodies are ugly. I don't go for the sexy look (how do you make a beach ball look sexy?), but I do like my dresses and skirts. I don't wear trousers (pants for our colonial cousins) very often because they do nothing to make me look better.

I wouldn't say that wearing clothes that make me look better is mundane or routine, but neither do I get a sensual kick out of it, it just feels natural in a way that men's clothes never did.

[Myojine]

Do you get an enjoyment out of having smooth shaved legs, wearing soft fabric clothes , stockings and panties??
No.
I have a legitimate panty fetish, that has been associated heavily with Japanese Anime(not cartoons) and erotic anime styled artwork,, as well as the "Proxy contact" attraction, but aside from that, i feel a little bit set off by the generlization that TS must like the "feeling" of girly clothes for pleasure.

Hell i dont even wear a bra or underwear, i sit around infront of my computer and just jeans. id rather not wear clothes at all.

[NCAmazon]

Well did many of you have a phase where it was an excitement to get into a skirt or shave your legs. Was that in the initial stages when you started? If your in a situation where you only have one or two days a week to get into something girly I'm sure the excitement is a lot more versus when you have the option all the time.

I guess with male libido that excitement turns into something sensual. What I read about a lot is that male libido from shaving legs or wearing smooth soft outfits turns into just calm and peacefulness after HRT for many.

[Bree-asaurus]

Well did many of you have a phase where it was an excitement to get into a skirt or shave your legs. Was that in the initial stages when you started? If your in a situation where you only have one or two days a week to get into something girly I'm sure the excitement is a lot more versus when you have the option all the time.

I guess with male libido that excitement turns into something sensual. What I read about a lot is that male libido from shaving legs or wearing smooth soft outfits turns into just calm and peacefulness after HRT for many.

I don't know why it happens, but there are transexuals, who when they thought they were just crossdressers, would associate crossdressing with sexual... stuff. I was one of these but grew out of it. It was only really an issue when going through puberty. Stupid hormones...

I think it may have had to do with my whole sexual identity being repressed, with me not being able to feel sexy as a guy, so when I felt the least bit feminine, all those repressed sexual urges would flood back. I don't think it was ever really sexual because of the cloths themselves, but because of what the cloths represented... that I was able to let out a tiny fraction of who I was, and then the sex-starved male hormones just took over from there...

[Myojine]

Well did many of you have a phase where it was an excitement to get into a skirt or shave your legs.

Other than something being associated to my pantyfetish(accidentallly or purposefully), no.
Its girls stuff, imma girl thats what im supose to be wearing.
So no theres no sensual arousal or anything like that.(remove the panty fetish statement from this comment.)

Youre speaking as someone who gets excitement in Taboo activities. being dressed in girls clothes turns you on. are you sure youre a transexual?

[Princess Jen]

I have always loved the feeling of smooth shaved skin. As for panties, bras and nightgowns etc, while I appreciate all the different choices in clothing stores, I always tend to go for the prettiest, daintiest things I can find.

I don't have to. But I can...and so I do, it's just another part of my self expression. :cheer:

[Bree-asaurus]

Youre speaking as someone who gets excitement in Taboo activities. being dressed in girls clothes turns you on. are you sure youre a transexual?

Maybe you missed my post. Maybe you also haven't read that there are a number of transexuals that associated some kind of sexual feeling towards crossdressing when they were younger. And maybe you didn't notice where NCAmazon said "phase" ... meaning something that doesn't last. I highly doubt there are many, if any, transitioning transexuals who get off to wearing cloths of the gender they identify as.

[Badtranny]

Nothing wrong with those of course and I'm plenty happy to wear them on a nice occasion like when I had some girlfriends over last week for fondue.

Oh, my invitation must have gotten lost in the mail. ;-)

[NCAmazon]

Maybe you missed my post. Maybe you also haven't read that there are a number of transexuals that associated some kind of sexual feeling towards crossdressing when they were younger. And maybe you didn't notice where NCAmazon said "phase" ... meaning something that doesn't last. I highly doubt there are many, if any, transitioning transexuals who get off to wearing cloths of the gender they identify as.

When on other TS forums this seems to be the topic many newcomers come out and post that they get off on wearing the clothes and the feeling and then there is guilt and it goes away for a bit but the feeling comes back etc.

The therapist I had a session with says this happens, but a pattern he see's in CDs is that they do it then put the clothes away then go on about their guy life. This could change over time he told me to something more. A TS may do the same then go through confusing guilt feeling thoughts.

In some of the studies I read its natural even for many natal women to get off on how sexy they feel or look in the mirror etc or when their significant other admires how they look it gets them sensual. Maybe someone discovering TS feelings aligns with someone else admiring how they look when they crossdress.

These answers are interesting, I see a pattern that once someone medically transitions these libido kicks seem to go away with what I initially asked. Male libido is a complex maze!!

[Bree-asaurus]

Male libido is a complex maze!!

I thought it was pretty simple. Your sex drive is on autopilot. Even before you wake up you're body is ready to go... Stupid thing would never turn off...

Male sex process:

Want to have sex -> is there ANY opportunity?
-> Yes -> Do whatever it takes to get off
-> No -> Think about sex until an opportunity arises

But yeah... I had horrible guilt after crossdressing... sometimes I would cry...

[Julia_in_Pa]

The male libido is pretty much wiped out after a certain amount of time on HRT.
After a period of time one becomes chemically castrated by the medication for the most part.
I can certainly see that with some of the high sex drives men can have the cross dressing experience for them would of course result in sexual gratification.
For TS women that is greatly if not totally mitigated by HRT after a period of time.


Julia

[Bree-asaurus]

The male libido is pretty much wiped out after a certain amount of time on HRT.
After a period of time one becomes chemically castrated by the medication for the most part.
I can certainly see that with some of the high sex drives men can have the cross dressing experience for them would of course result in sexual gratification.
For TS women that is greatly if not totally mitigated by HRT after a period of time.


Julia

Yeah... my teenage years sucked. I didn't even care about having sex... but my stupid friggin body couldn't get enough of it. God, there were horrible days... It was just dragging me along for the ride.

Thank god for HRT! Never have those problems anymore!

[Julia_in_Pa]

Thank God Indeed Bree!!

[NCAmazon]

I thought it was pretty simple. Your sex drive is on autopilot. Even before you wake up you're body is ready to go... Stupid thing would never turn off...

Male sex process:

Want to have sex -> is there ANY opportunity?
-> Yes -> Do whatever it takes to get off
-> No -> Think about sex until an opportunity arises

But yeah... I had horrible guilt after crossdressing... sometimes I would cry...

LOL at male sex process. seems very accurate. That seems to be why TS associate masturbation and dressing.

During my pink fog phases I imagine if I transition that I could be turned on 24-7.

[Myojine]

Maybe you missed my post. Maybe you also haven't read that there are a number of transexuals that associated some kind of sexual feeling towards crossdressing when they were younger. And maybe you didn't notice where NCAmazon said "phase" ... meaning something that doesn't last. I highly doubt there are many, if any, transitioning transexuals who get off to wearing cloths of the gender they identify as.

Or maybe its something i dont understand.

[STACY B]

Hi,

Five years ago after transition I would not have been caught dead without a dress or skirt on.
As time went by I became more and more integrated into the role as me and the need to express femininity through clothing pretty much disappeared.
I wear pantsuits and flats to work and on my days off I'm usually in jeans or shorts with a t-shirt and running shoes.
This happens to many transitioned women because you are you 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
After a while you just want to be comfortable.
My SO and I dine out quite a bit including upper scale eateries. On those occasions where it's 40.00 a plate I'll be in a dress and heels.


Julia

iI know where ya comin from when its all new its CRAZY ,, But its just human nature to back off after the thrill is gone , Its not SO TABOO to do it when your a real girl ,, Or after you have done it an gotten away so many times , Just the time I have been doing it REALY openly has tarished the excitment of old ,, Back in the day just seeing someone in a dress an heels would set it off ,, But not so much anymore I guess were adrinalin junkys an have to find another hobby after while ,, Dam whats next ,, I hope with this new hobby we can get dirty again ,, This girl stuff is to hard make this one easy ,,, Maybe just jump out of a plane ,, Hell im running out of new ideas ?

[Bree-asaurus]

Or maybe its something i dont understand.

Quite possible ;) Not every transexual has the same experience.

[RachelOKC]

Oh, my invitation must have gotten lost in the mail. ;-)

Sorry doll, next time! :)


During my pink fog phases I imagine if I transition that I could be turned on 24-7.

Oh, I doubt that very much. It's not very practical for running errands and doing the daily grind.

[Bree-asaurus]

LOL at male sex process. seems very accurate. That seems to be why TS associate masturbation and dressing.

During my pink fog phases I imagine if I transition that I could be turned on 24-7.

Like you guessed in your original post... cloths don't matter... wearing them is mundane and routine just like having coffee with breakfast. Maybe sometimes you'll add a flavored creamer, but it's still just coffee :P

[Kaitlyn Michele]

Yeah... my teenage years sucked. I didn't even care about having sex... but my stupid friggin body couldn't get enough of it. God, there were horrible days... It was just dragging me along for the ride.

Thank god for HRT! Never have those problems anymore!

and thank goodness for masturbation ....:devil:

[Bree-asaurus]

and thank goodness for masturbation ....:devil:

*sigh* ... I guess my sex drive was too high... the sexual frustration rarely seemed to go away from that... lol

I still have a pretty high sex drive. I want it more than my bf does :D

[NCAmazon]

Like you guessed in your original post... cloths don't matter... wearing them is mundane and routine just like having coffee with breakfast. Maybe sometimes you'll add a flavored creamer, but it's still just coffee :P

Its not the clothes per say, but for someone who is trying to figure it out or if they are in fact a CD the clothes help define the feeling of feminimity. But at your stage it seems you have feminimity 24-7 and you don't need the clothes to feel it all the time.

But if its a nice occassion I'm sure you want to wear a dress or skirt to define or enhance that you are feminine and want to feel pretty.

For someone who is still trying to discover where they are, wearing mens clothes 80% of the time and have a certain image there is a need for the clothes to make that switch and definition of feminimity. I've seen this among posts from transitioners on here in their early phases.

[Bree-asaurus]

But if its a nice occassion I'm sure you want to wear a dress or skirt to define or enhance that you are feminine and want to feel pretty.

Hence the flavored creamer... hehe :D

[Starling]

I wish this thread were in Safe Haven...

:) Lallie

[Vickie_CDTV]

Can a humble TV chime in? An affinity for silky clothing is something I have firsthand knowledge of (at least from the TV perspective.)

Compared to my TS friend, there seems to be one big difference in this area. It is the look and the feel of course, very much so, but it is also the fact that clothing that I like have a deep and personal meaning for me. It goes beyond the physical feeling of the clothing but it also stirs feelings inside as well, feelings that are hard to describe... along with the eroticism it is a feeling of happiness, pride, contentment, completeness... I know for most folks it sounds ridiculous, it is one of those things that you have to have yourself to really understand.

From my own limited personal experience, I don't suspect TS or GG normally have this kind of intense and personal affinity for clothing they like. They may like how it feels, or it may make them feel sexy because they feel others will find them attractive, but it doesn't carry the same intense and deeply personal feelings as they do for me. Am I on to something, or am I way off base here?

[CharleneT]

Its not the clothes per say, but for someone who is trying to figure it out or if they are in fact a CD the clothes help define the feeling of feminimity. But at your stage it seems you have feminimity 24-7 and you don't need the clothes to feel it all the time.

But if its a nice occassion I'm sure you want to wear a dress or skirt to define or enhance that you are feminine and want to feel pretty.

For someone who is still trying to discover where they are, wearing mens clothes 80% of the time and have a certain image there is a need for the clothes to make that switch and definition of feminimity. I've seen this among posts from transitioners on here in their early phases.

The discovery process is complex indeed ;) The feelings you have are very common, among both CD and TS folks. In one case it intensifies over time (CD) and the other it becomes mundane as you grow into your self (TS). As well, of course, everyone is different. I have several GG friends who have quite strong clothing fetishes :D For me, early on, wearing women's clothes created some very strong feelings. Yes, some were sexual. I agree with Bree about the teenage years and think her description was great !! Nowdays, clothes are normally just clothes. Some days that does mean they help me feel sexy - particularly if I want to attract someone's attention :devil: I have lived full time now for a few years. The thrills of the early days are long gone, replaced by a quite happiness.



Can a humble TV chime in? An affinity for silky clothing is something I have firsthand knowledge of (at least from the TV perspective.)

Compared to my TS friend, there seems to be one big difference in this area. It is the look and the feel of course, very much so, but it is also the fact that clothing that I like have a deep and personal meaning for me. It goes beyond the physical feeling of the clothing but it also stirs feelings inside as well, feelings that are hard to describe... along with the eroticism it is a feeling of happiness, pride, contentment, completeness... I know for most folks it sounds ridiculous, it is one of those things that you have to have yourself to really understand.

From my own limited personal experience, I don't suspect TS or GG normally have this kind of intense and personal affinity for clothing they like. They may like how it feels, or it may make them feel sexy because they feel others will find them attractive, but it doesn't carry the same intense and deeply personal feelings as they do for me. Am I on to something, or am I way off base here?


Well said !!

[NCAmazon]

Can a humble TV chime in? An affinity for silky clothing is something I have firsthand knowledge of (at least from the TV perspective.)

Compared to my TS friend, there seems to be one big difference in this area. It is the look and the feel of course, very much so, but it is also the fact that clothing that I like have a deep and personal meaning for me. It goes beyond the physical feeling of the clothing but it also stirs feelings inside as well, feelings that are hard to describe... along with the eroticism it is a feeling of happiness, pride, contentment, completeness... I know for most folks it sounds ridiculous, it is one of those things that you have to have yourself to really understand.

From my own limited personal experience, I don't suspect TS or GG normally have this kind of intense and personal affinity for clothing they like. They may like how it feels, or it may make them feel sexy because they feel others will find them attractive, but it doesn't carry the same intense and deeply personal feelings as they do for me. Am I on to something, or am I way off base here?

A lot of that feeling may be from exploring something thats not routine and stepping into a pleasure world. But it it were to be daily and normal and not stepping into a new world it may not be the same feeling. If you were to move toward TS it may be different. Who knows?

[Kaitlyn Michele]

A lot of that feeling may be from exploring something thats not routine and stepping into a pleasure world. But it it were to be daily and normal and not stepping into a new world it may not be the same feeling. If you were to move toward TS it may be different. Who knows?

Unfortunately if you are seriously considering this question as part of the equation for figuring yourself out (am i ts or not?), I don't believe the question is very helpful.

If you love that stuff it doesn't preclude the idea that you are ts. It could just be that in your mind, those feelings trigger your need to express being a woman. If you are ts...once you start letting the idea in your mind, you snowball down the hill because wearing nighties doesn't trigger those feelings anymore..

[NCAmazon]

Unfortunately if you are seriously considering this question as part of the equation for figuring yourself out (am i ts or not?), I don't believe the question is very helpful.

If you love that stuff it doesn't preclude the idea that you are ts. It could just be that in your mind, those feelings trigger your need to express being a woman. If you are ts...once you start letting the idea in your mind, you snowball down the hill because wearing nighties doesn't trigger those feelings anymore..

So your saying that the feelings come regardless of if you are wearing male or female clothes at the moment?

[Kaitlyn Michele]

which feelings are you talking about??

if you are asking about the sexual or fantastical thoughts about clothes, what i'm saying that if you are a crossdresser they will not go away..although you may feel less sexual about it over time...

if you are transsexual they may or may not go away, AND they will be complemented by deeper needs such as needing for people to see you as a woman, needing to communicate with people as a woman..etc

it sure sounds like you are a crossdresser that is curious about ts people, but you haven't posted alot so who knows

[NCAmazon]

which feelings are you talking about??

if you are asking about the sexual or fantastical thoughts about clothes, what i'm saying that if you are a crossdresser they will not go away..although you may feel less sexual about it over time...

if you are transsexual they may or may not go away, AND they will be complemented by deeper needs such as needing for people to see you as a woman, needing to communicate with people as a woman..etc

it sure sounds like you are a crossdresser that is curious about ts people, but you haven't posted alot so who knows

Well what I meant was when you said "wearing the nightie doesn't trigger the feeling" I assumed that once you started CDing the feelings escalated and you felt trapped no matter what you were wearing. That you felt your body was a female body even if you were wearing a Pant shirt and tie. Does that seem close?

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Well what I meant was when you said "wearing the nightie doesn't trigger the feeling" I assumed that once you started CDing the feelings escalated and you felt trapped no matter what you were wearing. That you felt your body was a female body even if you were wearing a Pant shirt and tie. Does that seem close?

I think this is when gender counseling is needed. I've seen CDers get into that "zone" where they believe they might be TS. The feelings are just so enticing and so strong as to make someone believe they never want to be in guy mode again. The TSs on this site will likely say this person is not a CD but is TS. And some individuals who go through this may well be TS. Yet, quite a few seasoned CDers here have said they went through such a phase when they were younger, and now are quite happy having learned to live comfortably with both their genders, in other words they've defined themselves as being outside of the gender binary. My SO is one such person who considers herself to be dualgender. This is a hugely difficult thing to do and I dare say it is something that most people including TSs have difficulty understanding, since obviously MtF TSs are women and not a mixture of the two.

Are you seeing a gender therapist?