For the visitors that read here what would you say?

[Marleena]

I think most of you know that the visitors here usually outnumber the members by 3 to 1.

So, if you could dispell any stereotype myths about being TG/IS/CD/TS what would you tell them?

What would you tell somebody that doesn't understand transgendered people but want to know about us?

[Piora]

Great idea for a thread topic, Marleena!


I think most of you know that the visitors here usually outnumber the members by 3 to 1.

So, if you could dispell any stereotype myths about being TG/IS/CD/TS what would you tell them?

1. That only a small percentage of crossdressers are gay. Most CDs are straight males, and just happen to like dressing in women's clothes.

2. That only a small percentage of crossdressers want to transition and become transsexual females. Most CDs - despite having some breast and vagina envy - don't want to change their gender by having surgery.


What would you tell somebody that doesn't understand transgendered people but want to know about us?

Don't buy into the myths, and read this forum, after which they can thereby draw their own conclusions about what makes us tick. Then, maybe they could tell us so we might understand ourselves too! :heehee:

[Eryn]

What would I like to tell them?

"You're likely here because of a Google search for prurient words. This isn't the porn site you're looking for. Move along."

[joanna marie]

I think that the visitors are already CDers but are worried that they might be exposed to the rest of the world if they become a member

I would just tell them not to worry and join, It was the best decision I've made in a long time

[Jacqueline Winona]

If they lurk here often? I'd say join our gorup, we're no different than you in that you couldn't pick most of us out of a crowd when we're not dressed. And you are neither alone, nor a freak, there's no reason not to embrace your feminine self and enjoy yourself.

[Katesback]

I would tell them to either leave or get a real stiff drink and sit down and read. As scarry as it may be.

[Bree-asaurus]

We're all drunk nazis!

[BRANDYJ]

I would tell them that like any other large gathering of people, there are some really awsome people, so me rude, nasty and clusless jerks here too. But if you want the very best support site for anyone with any type of gender issues, you can't find a better one. Just learn how to weed the bad ones out and ignore them. But be prepared to find others that are just like you in many ways beyond just crossdressing.

[Angie G]

I'd say if your looking for a great place to hang out join up and join in. And get your girl on.:hugs:
Angie

[Karren H]

We're all drunk nazis!

I don't drink that often!!

[Marleena]

I don't drink that often!!

I think I'm going to start! :)

[whowhatwhen]

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I'm going to assume we're loaded with nerds as well.

[Anne2345]

I don't drink that often!!

I'm drinking now . . . .

Samuel Adams Imperial White . . . .

:drink:

As for dispelling stereotypes, they are all true, right? No? Maybe? Some of them, perhaps? Huh? What was the question again? :drink:

[Bree-asaurus]

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I'm going to assume we're loaded with nerds as well.

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[YorkshireRose]

If you're a CDer don't be shy come and join the party.

If you are not, don't fall for the myth we are all gay and knock it until you've tried it!

[Marleena]

Did you know we come from all walks of life and from all segments of the population? Did you know we don't bite? Well most of us anyways...

Yes it's true we do have nerdy IT chicks here.:)

Ladies does your husband wear your clothes? Come in and find out why, but not really why, but almost why.:) Well we have theories why.

[Ineke Vashon]

Marleena, you are 100% correct. I see below that there are currently four users browsing this thread. Me, and three guests. How about that.

I would suggest that the guests enjoy the many posts, and realize the many varieties of people posting here. I also would recommend they visit a book store and look through some of the books on crossdressing, transgender and such. Helen Boyd's "My husband Betty" was one of the first books I read on the subject. Lots and lots of information online, and more on YouTube.

Ineke

[suchacutie]

For those whole are drawn to crossdress: Welcome. Please become members. You will find support here and mostly rational thought about this gift we all have.

For those who were looking for porn: There is none here...you need to try down the street.

For wives and girlfriends who suddenly find themselves needing to know about this lifestyle: Welcome. Please join and you will have many of us and many GGs who have been down this road and can help.

To those just lurking for some other reason: We are generally rational people from all walks of life. We didn't choose this lifestyle, it chose us. It is a part of who we are and it is not possible to put it aside without incredible hardship. Having said that, this lifestyle brings with it hardship. This is serious business and I hope we mostly make that clear in all that we say here.

In general welcome. Join the sight and talk with us. We are friendly and try to be helpful.

[whowhatwhen]

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That reminded me of how fun/frustrating it was playing with a system with no MMU, then getting the fun of undefined behaviour.
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Damnit I'm nerding it again, ummmm back to topic...

We're all totally gay in here, so very, very, very gay.
You know how there are parades of big hairy gay guys wearing leather and those harnesses with the big ring in the middle?
We're more gay than that, so very especially fabiously gay.

On opposite day in opposite land, so it's a double negative.

[amielts]

Great idea for a thread topic, Marleena!
2. That only a small percentage of crossdressers want to transition and become transsexual females. Most CDs - despite having some breast and vagina envy - don't want to change their gender by having surgery.



This is obviously true. But then, I have seen too many CDs actually come out and declare that they are TSs in the end to say that there isn't some kind of association there.

[KaTanya]

I would like them to know the following:
*As of April 1st, the "Young Adult" section at the bookstore will be re-named "Vampire Fiction" due to new truth-in-advertising requirements.
*The Mayan calender will not indicate the end of the world. Do not spend the next nine months blowing your life savings and engaging in reckless behavior.
*Professional wrestling is fake. And real fans wouldn't have it any other way.
*FLCL has a lot of deep meanings, but thinking too much about it can be bad for your health.

[sterling12]

"After you have read about 300 Threads, your going to figure out that we really don't do "Naughty" very well." "If your looking for "Trashy T-Gurls," this is not The Correct Location!"

Peace and Love, Joanie

[jaye_cd]

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I'm going to assume we're loaded with nerds as well.

I need more wine. I totally got that.

[Misti]

I'm drinking now . . . .

Samuel Adams Imperial White . . . .

:drink:

As for dispelling stereotypes, they are all true, right? No? Maybe? Some of them, perhaps? Huh? What was the question again? :drink:

Damn, Anne, And, I wanted to celebrate St. Paddy's day, too! :drink:

What hapened to St. Paddy's day, anybody know, Huh? :drink:

Hey, you lurking out there, "Where'd St. Paddy's day go?" :drink:

Oh! Wait, i forgot, cat's got your tongue, and you can't speak. :drink:

Oh well, nest year... :drink: C'mon in the water's, blaak... :drink: Wait, who said anything about water? Burp! Where was i? Oh! Nite'all!

Shaa! :drink: Hay! Anybody here on the forum know where....

[noeleena]

Hi,

Yes & St Pat's day here just the same,

Some of us come here who are a bit different wether your male , female , or a mix of both, some dress some dont ether way. we get to know each one as we talk about our selfs for some in can be a game . thats okay, no worry's. some of us are liveing very different than we were many years ago, & some have changed over a shorter time,

We all have a life & a story to tell , some of us have a way with words a few of us struggle with that, never mind i think we get over what we are trying to say.

For my self im a woman who's a bit different , so join in with us & get to know us as people who may be different in many ways & if we can help we will,

we allso like to have fun & a natter, oh yes the post's can get a bit hot at times that's all part of the differences we have here,

The Waimo girl from down under,

...noeleena...

[Foxglove]

I wouldn't tell them anything. They can look this forum over, and they'll learn all they want to know about us. And maybe a lot more than we would like them to know. It might be something for us to consider every time we post. (As for me, seems like every time I post, I forget everything I was trying to remember to remind myself of.)

Oh, OK, if I have to tell them something, I'll just say, "Best wishes to all you lurkers and shirkers from Annabelle Larousse!"

[mscatie85]

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Awesome, takes me back to first semester programming.

As far as what I would tell our guests, it would go something like this.
We are just like you in every way. We were born human and we lead pretty standard existence. We could be your doctor, representative, firefighter, pharmacist, street vendor, teacher, father or son. We ask that you have an open mind and leave your preconceived notions at the door. The only difference we have from you is that we all share a common interest and just like you we come in all shapes and sizes.

[Piora]

This is obviously true. But then, I have seen too many CDs actually come out and declare that they are TSs in the end to say that there isn't some kind of association there.
Yes, of course - I wasn't implying that there wasn't. After all, if someone wants to transition, it's only logical that they would be living AS a woman before taking the plunge. But the difference between transitioning pre-ops and straight CDs is just that.....those that want to transition are already women, not only in their appearance, but in their souls. They simply need to complete it by having surgery. Straight CDs aren't. They want to feel like women....but are also happy with being men. Those that want to transition aren't. However, the myth that all or even most CDs want to actually become women, is simply that. A myth.

[Celeste]

I think the first thing I would suggest would be to dig deeper into this forum.That way they could see the full spectrum of girls, wife's, admirers and how effective this site is in helping them all.This forum changes stereotypes and keeps it clean,so I feel the idea would be to remove any preconceived perceptions of sexual deviance in all of this first.Once over that hump I'd move onto educating them on seeing people for who they are with freedom of choice and privacy.

[Sandra1746]

I "lurked" for a few years before joining this year, probably should have done it sooner. I also introduced my wife to the site so she could see that CD'ers wern't the "freaks" that we are so often represented as.

This is a great site and anyone wondering about the CD community would be hard pressed to find a better introduction. Read the threads with an open mind, learn and enjoy. There is no porn, plenty of great information, some humor, and yes a few 'nerds'.

Experience the variety of the community.
Hugs,
Sandra1746

[Laura912]

Got to this post late in the conversation. Three members on, no guests. All the wisdom has been stated. Programming beyond my Fortran and Basic (with some machine language), you have already started drinking so pass the Wild Turkey or Jefferson Reserve and I'll agree with everything!

[Jocelyn Quivers]

Join and become a member of a big happy college campus/community. Save yourself all of the torment of spending a good year debating on whether to join or not. Save yourself the anguish of wondering if you will be outted or not. Save yourself the anguish of believing you can overcome your gender issues, because if you "accidentaly wandered" here you already know the answer to that question whether you choose to accept it or not. :battingeyelashes:

[Launa]

I would say if you need to know some things or ask some questions then pull up a chair and join in! As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing immoral or illegal that goes on here. Other narrow minded people in the world might think different though.

[sherri]

That the world isn't as accepting as you wish, or as scary as you fear.

[Di]

I would say....it is not uncommon AND nothing to be ashamed of.
Join us to learn and support each other.
Stand and be proud

To the new GG's guests I would encourage you to come on in. We have a private
Fab forum to talk openly with other GG partners.
We support each other from the newly finding out GG's to all of us that fully support our partners.( and everything in between)
There is no right or wrong only your story.
Your story is important and that you're part of a bigger story .:hugs:

[STACY B]

This is what I would say ,, First why are you here ? Second if you are one of us join us an be herd . Third if everyone that love doing this would stand up an unite it would make it ALOT EASYER for all of us in the long run . We are still men an it would be one of the biggest comptions in HISTORY . Ya know how guys are ,, There would be no stopping us .

[Lorileah]

Well I think that about covers it. we are not gay, we don't all want sex changes, we don't want sex with men, we like the texture and fabric (that is why we dress...not to get sexual stimulation...ok most of us anyway), we are really good people inside, we don't do web cam porn, we don't put make up on with a spray can and paint roller, we don't hang out in restrooms on the I-95, what we do is not immoral or illegal, and we drink. Yep that's what we do.

Of course the visitor who needed to know all that is now perving a different site

[Cheryl T]

If they are here they are here for a reason.
I'd say look around, take what you need, leave what you can and if you have questions...remember...there are no silly questions, only silly answers.

[Misti]

I "lurked" for a few years before joining this year, probably should have done it sooner. I also introduced my wife to the site so she could see that CD'ers wern't the "freaks" that we are so often represented as. This is a great site and anyone wondering about the CD community would be hard pressed to find a better introduction. Read the threads with an open mind, learn and enjoy. There is no porn, plenty of great information, some humor, and yes a few 'nerds'. Experience the variety of the community. Hugs, Sandra1746

Join and become a member of a big happy college campus/community. Save yourself all of the torment of spending a good year debating on whether to join or not. Save yourself the anguish of wondering if you will be outted or not. Save yourself the anguish of believing you can overcome your gender issues, because if you "accidentaly wandered" here you already know the answer to that question whether you choose to accept it or not. :battingeyelashes:

There ought to be more great posts like yours, Laura, and Jocelyn's, for all the "Lurkers" to see and heed. This whole thread probably should also be in the Intro Section as required reading, or some such, too, before entering the forum even? Now back to the fun part. :drink:


Three members on, no guests. All the wisdom has been stated... you have already started drinking so pass the Wild Turkey or Jefferson Reserve and I'll agree with everything!

Me, too, Laura. Update: 5 members on, 2 guests. BTW since we are passing the bottle around and throwing "Camel Dung" again (Oh that? Well, you see "BS" was unheard of in my days :battingeyelashes:), anyone remember the Mission Whiskey that used to mysteriously appear out of the Flight Surgeons foot locker after a mission," Old Methuselah?" Oh! But it;s true.. Smoooooth, cough, cough! :devil:

Anecdote: In the novel Kipps, H. G. Wells captures the very similar result when his modest hero has his first glass of whisky: “Kipps . . . drank another sip of old Methuselah. . . . He was able to follow the subsequent course of that sip for quite a long way. It was as though the old gentleman was brandishing a burning torch through his vitals, lighting him here and lighting him there, until at last his whole being was in a glow.” Enjoy, girls!

:love:

[whowhatwhen]

We're all gay down here, and when you're down here with us you'll be gay too!
Mwhahahahaha!

[Billie Jean]

I think that the visitors are already CDers but are worried that they might be exposed to the rest of the world if they become a member

I would just tell them not to worry and join, It was the best decision I've made in a long timeI visited everday for about a week before joining. I was afraid of being outed. The ladies here made me comfortable so I just went ahead and joined. I am glad I did because it helped me to be who I am. That's what I'd say to them. Billie Jean

[Piora]

We're all gay down here, and when you're down here with us you'll be gay too!
Mwhahahahaha!
Yikes! Have you been reading Stephen King again? :heehee:

[whowhatwhen]

I saw the first half of the movie, then I found this forum and.... FAAAAAAB!

[Inna]

Hi VISITOR, there goes a joke around "what is the difference brtween CD and TS?.......two years" do you know the one about visitors "what is the difference between visitor and a member here?..........:)

[Misti]

...do you know the one about visitors "what is the difference between visitor and a member here?..........:)

Aw! I'll bite, Inna, "what is the difference between visitor and a member here? :D

[Kristyn Hill]

I lurked for 2 weeks then hated not being able to be heard. If you like wearing womens clothes, join. Awesome place that made me realize I am a CD'er. I already knew but this place really allowed me to say it out loud. I don't care anymore. I ams what I ams and that is a sexy mother f***er.

[Jenniferathome]

To the women who have an SO that crossdresses, I want you to know that the vocal minority are not representative of the typical crossdresser. Please ignore the nonsense posts about what color panties one wears or complaints about how one's SO doesn't allow dressing in bed. There is so much noise here, you have to be able to weed it out. If you made it here, you are a strong woman. Crossdressing is weird and you will never understand it, he'll, we crossdressers don't. You can learn something and anything helps. Good for you.

[donnatracey]

I am amazed that the ratio of visitors to members is that high! My question is quite simple too - why are you here?.....:doh:

[kimdl93]

rather than trying to dispell their misconceptions (if they have any) I'm wondering who the visitors are. I wonder if they're simply curious, if they're looking for some sort of fantasy/erotic site and ended up here by mistake, or if they're like us, but not quite ready to join in the conversation. Maybe the forum operators could offer a little survey to visitors - just to find out.

[Katesback]

Think I would tell them to check out all the wonderful pictures of peoples legs.

[Julia_in_Pa]

OK Kate that was not only a correct observation it was funny as hell!


Julia

[DCChris]

I would say to any visitor, chances are probably pretty good you know a CD already. They may be family or extended family, or a work associate, or a friend or neighbor. And you don't suspect a thing. So let me ask the rhetorical question, why would you see them in any different light 30 seconds after you find out they crossdress? Are they no longer the person you knew a half minute before?

The point being, there are a great many things we don't know about the personal lives of others who are already in our lives. As a general rule, this new 'knowledge' probably shouldn't change the relationship we have with that person if we find out something previously 'secret'.

[whowhatwhen]

There certainly are a lot of legs, but eh, it's at least some expression and it may be all they're comfortable with posting.
I won't fault someone for not having a full face pic as their avatar, not everyone is in a place where they feel safe enough that being outed would be a non-issue.

For all anyone knows I'm a fat hairy guy who is in the process of fusing to a couch.

[Aylineira]

I lurked on these forums for a while too and I want to say to all of you lurkers out there that it's OK. It's OK how you feel. No, crossdressing doesn't make you gay (unless you really are). I have a loving wife who understands me. I am no different than a lot of you guys out there.

Come join the forums. Best thing to do is to air it out and ask all the questions and say all of the things you've always wanted to say here.