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Jaimie
03-23-2012, 12:54 AM
In my introduction to the forums post I said “I’m not sure if I’m TS or not.” That is not true. I am 100% certain that I am. I realized something was wrong when I was about 4 and started to become a real issue when I was 10. Puberty was an extremely difficult time for me. I was about 14 when I discovered what a transsexual woman was and I realized that I was one.

During my junior high and high school days I was picked on and bullied for being feminine and gay. I thought about suicide a lot and even made one unsuccessful attempt. I couldn’t stand my male body I detested it. My first love was my best friend Matt. I couldn’t tell him about my feelings for him. I used to dream that we would get married, own a house, and have a family. When I came out I lost him as a friend and we haven’t spoken to each other in over 12 years.

Lately my gender dysphoria has become overwhelming. It is at the point where it affects my functioning in daily life. I just want to be normal, a normal female.

I am so messed up. I am only sexually attracted to men but the idea of male on male sex is disgusts me. I don’t have anything against gay men but the idea it just gross to me. When I see an attractive woman I think gee I wish I could look like her. When I see an attractive man I think wow he’s hot, I wish he would come over here and flirt with me, maybe we could go out and watch a movie and he could hold me.

The worst part is that I’ve already transitioned once. I started stealing my mom’s Premarin when I was 16. I started electrolysis and laser hair removal as soon as I started growing facial hair. I lived full time when I was going to college. I even had a hot boyfriend who treated me right.

When I was full time I worked at Wal-Mart. I was a female escort for a few select men, something I never told my boyfriend. I also worked as a drag queen performer. I felt like at the rate I was saving I would never be able to afford FFS and SRS.

I needed a better job. I couldn’t get a decent job as transsexual woman who hadn’t legally changed her gender yet. I applied for a job where I was the most qualified applicant. I know this because I got a perfect score on both the aptitude test and the physical fitness test. I also had a bachelor’s degree and the job only required a GED. They hired 18 out of the 24 applicants. They didn’t even grant me an interview. I had to be honest on the application and provide them with my legal name and legal gender. Some places I applied for did grant me an interview. Sometimes during interviews the interviewers were polite. But sometimes when interviewers realized that I wasn’t entirely female they told me that they don’t hire my kind, or they don’t hire freaks, or that hiring someone like me would be bad for business. During my most depressing interview the guy told me that I disgusted him and that I was an abomination and a sin against nature. I left that interview in tears.

Before I entered the job market I had never really experienced any discrimination for being a transwoman. My experience in trying to find employment suitable for my qualifications was a miserable. I felt like a failure. I decided cut my hair. I stopped taking hormones and anti-androgens. I was able to get a job as an Army officer. During the interview they asked me if I was gay even though under DADT they weren’t supposed to. They asked if I had a girlfriend and they were very curious about why I took so many dance classes in college. The acceptance rate for OCS at the time was 100%. They were desperate for 2nd lieutenants and I got in.

My plan was to do my 3 year requirement, save as much as possible then get out and resume my transition. After being off anti-androgens for 6 months the return of testosterone production was too much for me so I went back on them. I actually asked a doctor for spironolactone and proscar while I was in OCS. Of course they would not prescribe it to me so I got it online. My breast got smaller over time and I only ever had one person make comments about the size of my nipples.

I do not want to be a transsexual woman. When I realized that was what I was it scared me. Going through transition the first time I was scared but then I began to feel normal. I had friends who knew the real me. I was happy. I was happier during that time of my life than I ever have been. I have to transition. My gender dysphoria is too much to deal with right now. I’m still in the Army so that sucks. I’m back on estradiol. I can’t grow my hair out because of I’m in the Army. I’m not getting FFS yet because I’m still in the Army. But I really, really, want to. There is no Army regulation against facial cosmetic surgery.

The estradiol has provided me with some relief. If I get discharged because of it then so be it. The military’s policies on transgender people are outdated and discriminatory. I am a top notch officer and I’m extremely good at what I do. I would be even better if I could be comfortable in my own skin and not feel like my own body betrays me. Right now I’m in graduate school. I graduate in May and so far I have a 4.0. Because the Army is sending me to graduate school I owe the Army another four years. Four years seems like an eternity. The longer I live as a male the worse I feel.

As soon as I’m out I’m getting FFS, then I’m growing my hair out, living full time as a woman, and getting SRS. Then I’m going feel normal and at peace with my own body. I regret detransitioning but now I have the money to complete transition and get on with my life.

PS

In the past AR 40-400 said “3.9.1 Service members in the Army must obtain approval prior to seeking civilian medical care”

But now AR 40-400 reads “10–11. Elective care in civilian medical treatment facilities or from other civilian sources is not authorized at Army expense. Individuals choosing to seek medical/dental care outside the military health system, without prior approval of the MTF responsible for providing their primary medical care, do so at their own risk. The Soldier should be aware that any unfavorable outcome resulting from elective care provided by civilian sources could result in a not-in-line-of-duty finding and potentially eliminates the possibility of receiving disability benefits from the PDES.”

I contacted SLDN about this but they haven’t got back to me. If I am interpreting this correctly then I cannot be penalized under UCMJ for seeking civilian medical care.

Rianna Humble
03-23-2012, 04:36 AM
Wow that's quite a lot to have gone through. I'm sorry you had to experience the sort of discrimination you describe with the job applications.

I would still be careful about what you have done whilst you're still in the army - you don't want them to use it as an excuse to discriminate. Could you talk to an army appointed therapist in complete confidentiality?

Myojine
03-23-2012, 05:14 AM
I would still be careful about what you have done whilst you're still in the army - you don't want them to use it as an excuse to discriminate. Could you talk to an army appointed therapist in complete confidentiality?

This.
I got booted from the army because they foudn out i was trans.

not meaning to be rude when i say this but for your own good
keep your mouth shut.
And dont beleive them for a second when they say "its ok to ask for help from the army mental healthy services" theyre ****ing lieing.
try to find therapy in your private time
Dont make the mistakes i did.

Aprilrain
03-23-2012, 09:01 AM
UGH! I had something all typed up and ready to go an poof! Gone!

You are not "messed up" your attraction to men as a hetero female is normal. Your digust with male on male sex as a female with a male body is normal. You'll get there! I was "lucky" I'm bi so I just ignored my attraction to men and dated woman avoiding the issue all together. However in spite of having some decent long term relationships with several woman I always felt off, I was in the wrong gender role! Plus one can only ignore ones feelings for so long. In all my relationships with woman I eventually got to the point where I resented them for being female (because I wanted to be the female) and I'd lose interest in having sex with them (because I really wanted to be a woman with a man) I think if I were going to have a sexual relationship with a woman today it would be with the understanding that there'd be a man involved as well
; )
I digress.

There are some other young woman here who are also in the service, I don't see how you guys do it! Bottom line is your going to have to play dude till you get out, question is can you?? Don't let the military kill you!

Sorry to here about your rotten job hunting experiences, life will be easier with the proper documentation. I wouldn't even bother looking for a job Until my mane and gender marker were changed. luckily here in Ohio one can change their gender marker on a DL with a letter from a therapist.

Good luck glad your here!

Julia_in_Pa
03-23-2012, 11:02 AM
Jaimie,

First off welcome sister to the forum.
I'm sorry these things have happened to you, and, because they did they sadly are still typical in many facets of interaction in society as a TS or IS woman.
A year and three months after I transitioned I was layed off with a group of new hires at the employer I transitioned with.
I was a five year employee with several awards under my belt concerning innovations concerning my job.
I was never late and seldom sick. You tell me the reason why I was let go. :straightface:
You appear to know your true path and because of this you must not deviate away from what you are doing and what you have left to do in order to be your true self.
I know the path is hard. I transitioned over five years ago and there are things that will always haunt me until the day I leave this earth.
Attempt to accept your position now within societies pecking order then work work work and work some more at changing that status.
Right now peace is elusive to you but it will come.
Stay strong Jaimie


Julia

Melody Moore
03-23-2012, 12:04 PM
It is not true that "the US Army just boots you out for being trans". There is another
member of this forum who is also a friend of mine who I chat to all of the time on Skype.
She is a good soldier with a very good record which includes going on deployment to Iraq.
Because she wants to transition she has come out in the US Army & has also been begging
them for a discharge so she can transition or to repost her to a more appropriate corp & unit.

Her discharge has been delayed because her CO did not want to lose a good soldier and she
found out recently the reason why her discharge was being delayed was because her CO was
the person actually blocking it. He was doing everything he could to try and keep her in the
army. Because current US policy doesn't permit trans people to serve she is now getting her
discharge finally but it is not dishonourable and she gets to keep all her entitlements & benefits.

But the Army might have a very different attitude to transsexual officers who they
have poured more time & money into training and therefore they tend to respect &
treat officers a lot better compared to enlisted personnel. I too was also in the Army
from 1980-84 as an NCO (Corporal) which was long before I ever transitioned & in an
era I had to repress it or I would have been kicked out for sure, but it's different today.

Captain Matthew Clinch (http://www.justlikeyou.com.au/) was the first officer to ever come out as transsexual in the Australian
Army & Defence forces and as a result the ADF changed their policies now where trans people
can now serve. This Australian Army officer become Captain Bridget Clinch (http://www.justlikeyou.com.au/) and all her transition
including SRS has been covered by the ADF. See...


Let them Serve: Defence Drops Ban on Transgender Soldiers (http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/15/let-them-serve-defence-drops-ban-on-transgender-soldiers/)
Australian Defence Force could pay for soldier's sex change surgery (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=transsexual%20soldier%20australia&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fnews%2Fmor e-news%2Fdigger-steps-up-for-sex-change%2Fstory-e6frf7kx-1225944901117&ei=5qtsT_VIq52IB-CczIQG&usg=AFQjCNH804XXH3i3K7bEiufyy1dIpa2O9g&cad=rja)
US Perspective on "Australia to Allow Transgender Soldiers" (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc&sc2=news&sc3&id=110382)

Government policies are constantly being challenged and changed since the Human Rights
Commission's 2009 Sex Files Report (http://www.hreoc.gov.au/genderdiversity/sex_files2009.html) and the new WPATH Standards of Care (http://www.wpath.org/documents/Standards%20of%20Care%20V7%20-%202011%20WPATH.pdf) were released.

You never know Jaimie, you could also be the person who changes US policy
if you really make stand & fight for your rights. I am happy to also put you
in touch with my other US Army friend as well if you are on Facebook or Skype.

Jaimie
03-25-2012, 12:12 AM
Could you talk to an army appointed therapist in complete confidentiality?

I can’t talk with any military doctor’s, therapist, or chaplains unless I want to get discharged. I also can’t tell anyone I know because they might tell someone else and it would have a snowball effect eventually leading to my outing in a bad way. I have a referral to an off post therapist. My first visit with her is Tuesday. I went to the mental health clinic and complained of anxiety and depression and I got a referral to a provider off post which is want I wanted. Off post providers are bound by patient confidentiality laws and privacy acts. They can only breach that in is the case of self-harm or harm to others. I doubt this woman has any experience in dealing with GID. I am going to seek out my own elective health care since AR 40-400 no longer requires me to have prior approval before doing so.


And dont beleive them for a second when they say "its ok to ask for help from the army mental healthy services" theyre ****ing lieing.
try to find therapy in your private time
Dont make the mistakes i did.

I will heed your warning. I would love to hear more about your own experiences in the Army.


There are some other young woman here who are also in the service, I don't see how you guys do it! Bottom line is your going to have to play dude till you get out, question is can you?? Don't let the military kill you!

Thank you for the advice. I really appreciate it. How do I do it? I’ve been lucky so far because I’ve had commanders who are terrific to work for and I’ve had wonderful subordinates. I’ve been given jobs at which I could excel at. Some people aren’t as fortunate as I’ve been and don’t get to work in such great units and with such great people. The fast pace of training and deployments has kept me distracted.

I not going to deliberately disclose my transsexual status to the army and if I am ever confronted about it I will deny it. I’m still in grad school right now playing the role of a civilian. I’ll see what happens when I get to my next unit. I owe the Army four years and I don’t know if I can last that long. I seriously have doubts and I really need to find a way to mitigate my feelings of gender dysphoria so that I can function. I think seeing a therapist and staying on HRT is the best way to do that. I will have to bind my breast at work and I probably won’t be able to swim in the pool on post. I’ve always had some residual breast development left over from the first time I transitioned. I’ve also kept my eyebrows feminine and my body hairless for the entire time I’ve been in the Army without any issues. If anybody asks I’ll just tell them that I’m gay since it is ok to be out as gay now thanks to the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell. But the don’t ask don’t tell policy still applies to transsexuals. Technically, admitting that you crossdressed once on Halloween when you were 14 is enough for an administrative discharge. Take a look at AR 40-501 if you don’t believe me.

I think the key to me surviving is finding a good therapist.


You appear to know your true path and because of this you must not deviate away from what you are doing and what you have left to do in order to be your true self.

Thank you for the words of encouragement Julia.


You never know Jaimie, you could also be the person who changes US policy if you really make stand & fight for your rights. I am happy to also put you in touch with my other US Army friend as well if you are on Facebook or Skype.

That is a little hard to believe but it could happen, times are changing. I would love to get in touch with your friend. My Facebook account is http://www.facebook.com/CelebrezLaVie

Thank you for your detailed post by the way.

My mom has the opinion that I should get out with no mention of being a transsexual. Then I should complete transition and then try to rejoin. You can request waivers for disqualifying medical conditions but to my knowledge no waiver has ever been requested or granted to a post-operative transsexual. She thinks that when they deny my request for a waiver I should get SLDN to represent me and fight it that way. I really want to join OutServe so that I can meet other trans people who are in the military. But I am waiting to join because I am moving in about two months. I just want to get out and go back to school to get a nursing degree and get on with my life.


Jaimie