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Secret_Dresser
04-07-2012, 05:43 PM
Yes I had my 1st full day of underdressing(I guess thats what you can call it).

Pretty much spent the entire day with a pair of stockings on. Not sure why some people freak out over it. It done nothing emotionally, maybe I was fixated on something else.

Well its another small step, next step is to increase what im wearin under my male clothes XD.

Barbara Ella
04-07-2012, 05:49 PM
Congratulations. One small step for woman, one giant leap for mankind. SOunds like you started rationally and were relaxed and not scared of doing it. Next add panties. Then a camisole or half slip. Then a garter belt, and you are treading on the edge. When you really feel the feminine urge you will undoubtedly try a bra, but that usually waits til colder weather so you can wear a jacket or sweater.

So happy you are comfortable with this, as it is really supposed to be fun. Keep having fun.

Barbara

Secret_Dresser
04-07-2012, 05:53 PM
I'm actually quite amazed how well it went.

It was only once I stopped walking to wait for a train that it dawned on me what the hell I was doing, but was still comfortable doing it.

I do also have an upcoming thread about my day out and about, I just need to rummage through my purchases and snap some pics

So keep an eye out :)

STACY B
04-07-2012, 06:00 PM
Just wait until you go farther an farther an get like me an forget about all the stuff you are wearing an just see how you will focus on the newest thing you are doing an forget about the rest an all of a sudden rememeber something like dam I have a bra on an was talking to someone an was worried that they would notice my new gladiater sandles or my painted toe nails or got a new hair style an they are looking at your thin eye brows an you thought they saw your shaved leggs or they were lookin at your face an not your hair an you just rememebered that you have light makeup on an on on on on on get it ? An you just want to scream Im a girl dammit ,,,, Cant you tell ,,

Secret_Dresser
04-07-2012, 06:24 PM
Just wait until you go farther an farther an get like me an forget about all the stuff you are wearing an just see how you will focus on the newest thing you are doing an forget about the rest an all of a sudden rememeber something like dam I have a bra on an was talking to someone an was worried that they would notice my new gladiater sandles or my painted toe nails or got a new hair style an they are looking at your thin eye brows an you thought they saw your shaved leggs or they were lookin at your face an not your hair an you just rememebered that you have light makeup on an on on on on on get it ? An you just want to scream Im a girl dammit ,,,, Cant you tell ,,

Given my look currently, kinda gothic, I have grown used to the fact that I "stand out"(my height doesnt help either). I have fully accepted that people may notice some small things such as nails painted, makeup( both of these I havnt tried yet), and the other things you mentioned. The best part is that if somebody comments/laughs or w/e I can easily brush it off. I have yet to experience a full face to face comment, which my reply would be "I'h happy with who I am, If i like this* and that* then so be it. Theres nothing I want to do to change me."

*this and that being watever the person commented on.

Stephanie47
04-07-2012, 08:08 PM
I've under dressed many times. After realizing the only time something could go wrong is an accident or a coronary, I found I can relax. I just make sure I do not wear anything that would show through my male clothing. So, it's pant-hose rather than the thigh highs I prefer. A bra worn under a dark shirt and dark jacket or sweatshirt. Panties without a lacy waist band. Usually I find it has become rather boring to under dress. I prefer to get dolled up and sit in the secluded backyard and read a good book.

janet p
04-07-2012, 08:30 PM
I under dress with at least panties 24/7,the only time I got worried about it was when I went to jail(long story) but even then with pink panties on the jailers said nothing when I changed to jail clothes.

Noemi
04-07-2012, 08:47 PM
Good for you. Enjoy yourself. Cd'ing is a gift. Think in relative terms, that as weird as it can make you feel, well me, it can go that distance and then some in the other direction to make you feel wonderful. This is true.

I am Queen of underdressing, always panties and camis and painted toes, bras in the winter. Sometimes when I am in extreme/Alpha male company, and they have no idea what a sweetie I am...well that can get a bit deep, but It just feels so right and helps this girl cope allot.
Glad you are having fun.

Veronica27
04-08-2012, 11:07 AM
I may be in a small minority, but for me the pleasure to crossdressing, regardless of how fully I do it, is the fact that I am breaking the rules. I don't feel that I am a woman, or want to be a woman, but simply enjoy being a man who derives a great deal of pleasure out of the sensation of wearing female items to the extent possible in any specific circumstance, because we are not supposed to do that. The sensations and experiences that result are unique and different, unlike anything that is otherwise available to a man.

It can be something as simple as underdressing with a bra or panties or slip or hosiery or any or all of the above. It can also be as complex as being fully dressed in female attire, complete with hair, makeup, purse and so on and pretending or imagining that I am a woman in an attempt to possibly understand a little bit more of life. However, it is always the fact that in reality I am fully aware that I am a man who is on a very unusual and unorthodox adventure that provides the thrill and ultimate enjoyment of the experience. I don't want it to become comfortable or normal or routine, and certainly don't want to reach a point where I am unaware of the fact that I am on this adventure.

If crossdressing were to become "normal" for me, I would lose interest in it. In fact, there are often times when it tends to become somewhat boring as a result of overindulgence, and whenever this occurs, I usually find myself abstaining for lengthy periods until that "urge" returns, sparked by the monotony of everyday life and the desire to rekindle some remembered excitement.

To secret_dresser, perhaps you had built up your expectations too high, if you felt nothing emotionally, or as you said you may have been fixated on other matters. Whether you are like me, or instead, have a desire to become "your woman" doesn't matter here; the fact is you seem to be feeling that there should have been some emotional connection by underdressing. Because of that, it is probably time to extend your experience beyond the hosiery and add some other items. A bra is sometimes the one undergarment that we are most conscious of wearing, and can be a must to really achieving the sensations we are desiring. I have always found that a bra adds something to the sensation of anything else I might be wearing. If it is possible to add a bit of padding, the rush can be extremely intensified for those with little experience in getting out. If you want to be fully aware of what you are doing and wearing, it can often be helpful to try it when other non-crossdressing items are not uppermost on your mind. If you can tie it in with something like femme shopping or socializing with some female friends the experience can be mind boggling. On the other hand, if I am mistaken, and you are satisfied that there was no emotional connection, then by all means continue with your plans to gradually increase your involvement. Either way, it appears advisable to go for it.

Veronica

emmicd
04-08-2012, 12:02 PM
I am dressing in full dress and lingerie underneath my male clothing now. I used to be afraid but I feel much happier and true to myself when I have a dress, bra, panties and panty hose on now. I am even getting more daring and wearing women's trousers and womens blouses that I seem to be able to get away with.

I am no longer afraid if I had a medical issue and needed someone to aid me. If they see me dressed in women's clothes underneath then they will know the real me. I am now trying to figure out how to shed the male clothing altogether and live as a female the way I feel in my heart and mind.

Good luck to you as you explore this side. I started dressing underneath since my junior high and high school days.

emmi

Secret_Dresser
04-08-2012, 01:16 PM
Thanks to all comments.



To secret_dresser, perhaps you had built up your expectations too high, if you felt nothing emotionally, or as you said you may have been fixated on other matters. Whether you are like me, or instead, have a desire to become "your woman" doesn't matter here; the fact is you seem to be feeling that there should have been some emotional connection by underdressing. Because of that, it is probably time to extend your experience beyond the hosiery and add some other items. A bra is sometimes the one undergarment that we are most conscious of wearing, and can be a must to really achieving the sensations we are desiring. I have always found that a bra adds something to the sensation of anything else I might be wearing. If it is possible to add a bit of padding, the rush can be extremely intensified for those with little experience in getting out. If you want to be fully aware of what you are doing and wearing, it can often be helpful to try it when other non-crossdressing items are not uppermost on your mind. If you can tie it in with something like femme shopping or socializing with some female friends the experience can be mind boggling. On the other hand, if I am mistaken, and you are satisfied that there was no emotional connection, then by all means continue with your plans to gradually increase your involvement. Either way, it appears advisable to go for it.

Veronica

The only reason I thought there should be an emotional sensation with undressing is that the majority of people seem to experience fear when doing so, that was most likely embedded into my mind but when it got right down to it there was no need for it. That and the rush people usually feel sounds to last longer. More than likely setting expectaions high, either that or more comfortable than I originally thought.

I understand what you mean by a bra being the most noticable, as a GM we dont need to wear them on a daily basis so wearing one does in fact feel odd (I only tried on my first bra last night). There will be the dreaded fear when I underdress with a bra, thats a given since I wear alot of t-shirts.

As for being satisfied with there being no emotional connection then yea I am satisfied, I now know I have nothing to worry about so may do it more often.

I did also do a bit of femme shopping yesterday, details coming soon in a different thread. Sadly the socialising with female friends is pretty much a no go, the majority of them I have lost contact with.

Thanks for the post, It gives me something to think about :)

JessHaust
04-08-2012, 02:08 PM
Why would you worry about wearing something that nobody can see? They can't read your mind. I guess I just don't understand, if I'm going to wear womens clothes, it is exactly so people can see it. I want to wear the things that I admire, to present the image that I find attractive. Underdressing to me is a bit like creating a beautiful painting, then painting over it with dull gray. Yes, I know I'm about to recieve tons of posts telling me how bad a person I am, but I wanted to express my opinion, not change anyone elses.

ArleneRaquel
04-08-2012, 02:58 PM
Since circa 1998 I under dressed at least twice a week, just panties. Since circa 2004 24/7 underwear & outer.

muzzy
04-08-2012, 04:53 PM
I may be in a small minority, but for me the pleasure to crossdressing, regardless of how fully I do it, is the fact that I am breaking the rules. I don't feel that I am a woman, or want to be a woman, but simply enjoy being a man who derives a great deal of pleasure out of the sensation of wearing female items to the extent possible in any specific circumstance, because we are not supposed to do that. The sensations and experiences that result are unique and different, unlike anything that is otherwise available to a man.

It can be something as simple as underdressing with a bra or panties or slip or hosiery or any or all of the above. It can also be as complex as being fully dressed in female attire, complete with hair, makeup, purse and so on and pretending or imagining that I am a woman in an attempt to possibly understand a little bit more of life. However, it is always the fact that in reality I am fully aware that I am a man who is on a very unusual and unorthodox adventure that provides the thrill and ultimate enjoyment of the experience. I don't want it to become comfortable or normal or routine, and certainly don't want to reach a point where I am unaware of the fact that I am on this adventure.

If crossdressing were to become "normal" for me, I would lose interest in it. In fact, there are often times when it tends to become somewhat boring as a result of overindulgence, and whenever this occurs, I usually find myself abstaining for lengthy periods until that "urge" returns, sparked by the monotony of everyday life and the desire to rekindle some remembered excitement.

To secret_dresser, perhaps you had built up your expectations too high, if you felt nothing emotionally, or as you said you may have been fixated on other matters. Whether you are like me, or instead, have a desire to become "your woman" doesn't matter here; the fact is you seem to be feeling that there should have been some emotional connection by underdressing. Because of that, it is probably time to extend your experience beyond the hosiery and add some other items. A bra is sometimes the one undergarment that we are most conscious of wearing, and can be a must to really achieving the sensations we are desiring. I have always found that a bra adds something to the sensation of anything else I might be wearing. If it is possible to add a bit of padding, the rush can be extremely intensified for those with little experience in getting out. If you want to be fully aware of what you are doing and wearing, it can often be helpful to try it when other non-crossdressing items are not uppermost on your mind. If you can tie it in with something like femme shopping or socializing with some female friends the experience can be mind boggling. On the other hand, if I am mistaken, and you are satisfied that there was no emotional connection, then by all means continue with your plans to gradually increase your involvement. Either way, it appears advisable to go for it.

Wow veronica,what a great answer and is exactly how I feel too...It's a rush to wear panties,lingerie etc knowing that society doesn't accept it as the norm and it does give me a buzz wondering if I'm going to get busted with my panties down in some way shape or form.I don't do it all the time,although these days I do wear panties almost everyday,but the thrill of getting caught is my biggest aspect of it all xoxo

Sam-antha
04-08-2012, 05:44 PM
A very small point ref underdressing with a bra.... it might not show in front, but depending on the top it can really show from the back. Keep going its good for you but please do not get too serious about pretending because you are not really pretending to be female when you are dressed.
~S~

Stephenie S
04-08-2012, 09:04 PM
Well, there is a very well known, experienced, and successful crossdresser right here on this forum who says much the same thing. I don't think you are alone at all.

S

Karren H
04-08-2012, 09:46 PM
The only tiime I'd be scared underdressing would be if they weren't my under things! And she found out! Lol.

Tera
04-08-2012, 11:35 PM
I'm in the same situation as Veronica! The whole reason I started dressing was because it was "breaking the rules." Society says I can't wear a dress, so I wanted to wear a dress. I also just had the strangest urge to experience what it felt like to wear women's clothing. First thing I ever tried was pantyhose and I've been hooked ever since. I've never actually gone a whole day under dressing though. Once I did go out to get lunch (drive thru of course because I'm a scardy-cat) with pantyhose on under my guy jeans and it was cool. Just not something I could actually get into. I guess with me it's gotta be all or nothing :/

Kendra Sue
04-09-2012, 01:30 AM
I totally agree. I am not bold enough to do anything but underdress. I also have long periods of abstention

Trannygranny
04-09-2012, 01:48 AM
I have stopped under dressing as I found that I wanted to wriggle and feel the lovely soft fabrics rubbing my skin.
The sensation made me adopt my feminine walk and that was a bit camp in drab. So now it is all or nothing in dress.

SusanQ
04-09-2012, 04:23 AM
Nobody can really see what you are wearing under your clothes...nor do they really care. I know that it is a giant step the first time, but after a while wearing "female" undies will be as natural to you as wearing "male" jeans and shirts are to the natural born women.

I almost never wear male underwear any more (other than for doctor visits), panties are much more comfortable, and they are undectable.

sfwarbonnet
04-09-2012, 01:57 PM
I have found that the following women’s clothes are suitable for underdressing.

!) Pants: Women’s pull on pants are much easier to put on than men’s belted pants. They do not need a fake fly, as the absence of it is usually not apparent, but I prefer non-figured and solid color, non-pastel pants so they are not readily identified as women’s clothing.

2) Panties: Underwear with a fly is unnecessary with pull on pants. Although there are no-fly briefs in the men’s department, women’s full-cut briefs work just as well, and are often cheaper.

3) Slips: Shirttails tend to readily pull out of pull on pants. This can expose panty and pantyhose tops and a bare back is usually uncomfortable when seated. A “solution” is to wear a full slip that is short enough to be worn with slacks. A slip with adjustable straps, lace trim, and a bodice is even OK as it is covered and feminine features aren’t apparent. Also slips are usually made of material that makes it easier to pull on pants.

4) Bra: This is generally not considered an adrogynous item, but it can be useful in “boy mode” to keep non-adjustable straps on a slip from falling off the shoulders

5) Pantyhose: An MD suggested that I wear support pantyhose to avoid the indentation in my lower legs that mid-calf or knee-high socks make. Pantyhose do not require anything that is not also needed with pull on pants. Opaque ones are best, as they aren't readily identified as women's hosiery, but that isn't necessary and non-opaque pantyhose are OK and are more available.

6) Purse: Keeping a wallet, comb, notepad, phone, and keys in pants pockets is awkward as it is hard to extract them when seated, and pockets in women’s pull on pants are often not very deep anyway. My “solution” is to use a small shoulder purse, which can either be worn or secured in a basket when that is available.

kimdl93
04-09-2012, 02:00 PM
sounds like progress to me. There really isn't anything to scarey about wearing stockings under drab clothes.. no one knows but you.. Now, if you wear a bra and forms, thats another matter.

Secret_Dresser
04-09-2012, 03:44 PM
sounds like progress to me. There really isn't anything to scarey about wearing stockings under drab clothes.. no one knows but you.. Now, if you wear a bra and forms, thats another matter.

Yea the bra is a possibility, the forms are a no go however. Its something that my SO has drawn the line at so far.

Richelle423
04-09-2012, 04:34 PM
I am currently wearing panties 24/7. I don't care what anyone thinks.If I have to go to doctors maybe I'll wear boyshorts cause they look like men's trunks underwear.

Paulette
04-10-2012, 05:43 PM
I only wear Calvin Klein women's tanks in white or grey along with cotton panties under my suits everyday. As for the doctor, I do not think he noticed the last dozen times I was there what type of underwear I was wearing. I will admit that on those doctor visits that I wore black or grey panties and not my floral ones or the bright pink that I love.

big_brenda_75
04-14-2012, 12:13 AM
While the weather is still cool enough to require a jacket it's nice to be in a crowd and be the only one who knows that there is one more bra than the rest think. Although maybe more (if any of us are present) or less, as some GGs prefer.

MaryAnn40c
04-14-2012, 12:19 AM
I wear nylons all the time and undies. From time to time a bra. I do wear women clothes such as jeans and pants everyday.

princessmisti74
04-14-2012, 12:41 AM
I want to get on the bandwagon and say that I also wear hi-cuts, boyshorts and briefs 24/7! (I started in September of last year)
They just feel so damn good! I was hesitant about being "found out" thru an accident, but now I don't even think about it.
The joy that I get everyday, when I select my panty of the day, gives me a quick little thrill and puts a smirk on my face.
At times throughout the day I can often feel the air thru my pants due to the coolness against my panty wrapped skin.
Besides the silky feel, I love that feeling of stretchiness of my panties not having to be pulled up (to my waist) when I bend over.
I am finding it very difficult these days to stay out of the women's sections in every store I visit.
Oh, but it is soo fun to look at all the wonderful clothes on display.
And, I tell myself that I will not buy anything today...HAH! I can't control myself. At all.
But, I feel really good when I take that new blouse home to hang join the others:)

k lynn
04-14-2012, 05:16 AM
For me I wear hipphugger panties daily have for years along with a bra like to wear a bra and most days jeans

vetobob9
04-14-2012, 09:07 AM
I am out pretty much. Bra, forms, and undoes. Started off wearing a coat and dark shirts but sine it is now too hot to wear coats I don't. Wear one but still underdress with forms that are noticeable to me. I have not had any problems unless you count people calling you ma'am and lady. Often we can be our own worst critics.
I have become comfortable with wearing them openly. The next step will be to start openly wearing women's outer wear but I am not there yet. Ironically, the only time they noticed was when I did not wear them for a day but even then I had no issues.
I would advise that you start first with underdressing with or without a form then build up from there.

Piora
04-14-2012, 09:24 AM
I've never understood the 'underdressing' thing. I suppose the fact that you know you're wearing a sexy pair of panties, or stockings underneath your male clothes is a good feeling, it just isn't something I care to do. For me, crossdressing is a 95% visual thing. I need to see my female counterpart reflected in the mirror, and to know I'm wearing my bra, panties, stockings/pantyhose under blouses skirts and dresses. That's the only kind of underdressing I'm interested in!!:battingeyelashes: