Girly Feminine TS's vs more plain or Tomboyish TSsers

[NCAmazon]

Ok when someone looks at the whole transiton process from starting out doing a lot of CDing they are often told by some Ts's that the need to dress very feminine and wear dresses and skirts all the time becomes less. This is also the case with makeup and even jewlrey. There are some Ts's that they they don't feel the need to act very girly etc and wear jeans and t shirts most of the time.

But there are Tsers I meet who still feel and enjoy wearing dresses, skirts and jewelry all the time. They enjoy acting very girl and doing stereotypical girl type things, maybe its a way for them to keep reinforcing there femaleness.

From knowing natal woman this is also the same case, many are more plain in their presentation while others prefer to wear dresses and skirts all the time and be very girly or lady like in a stereotypical way.

So when seeing a TS who acts very girly is this the same as a natal woman who acts and dresses the same way? Is a TS who wears jeans and t shirts all the time similar to a more casual girl who does that all the time?

Or is a TS who presents either way handling their GID differently??

[Empress Lainie]

I find I am more "girly" than one of my gg friends....she is more tomboyish!
The other close one is as girly as I am and we are close to the same age.
I think its just like among natal women; TS women have the same variations. As to whether as time goes by, the desire to be more girly may change? Who knows, I know that this is just the way I am. I got really MAD when they told us at work that we have to wear black PANTS, and when I asked about skirts they said NO.
So I have black capri's with big pink flowers and green leaves on them and that's what I wore today with a pink instead of white shirt.

I am more girly than my mom was, and I am sure one of my sisters is a transman and won't admit it.

[MC-lite]

@NCAmazon: Every TS is different. It's the same for Natal women.

I'm one of those "TomBoy" TS'es. I dress in either jeans or shorts, Vee-neck tee-tops and sneakers. I almost never wear makeup, but I do like jewelry.

But that's how my mother dresses.

If you have the body for it, and the guts, you can wear just about anything. But be prepared to be judged by the women around you. And believe me, they can be harsh critics.

[Badtranny]

I love this topic.

In some ways I am stereotypically "girly" and in some ways I'm not. I generally don't like fussing with my hair, I'm in a loose pony almost every day. I generally don't like wearing makeup, but I do enjoy getting made up sometimes. I do love to dress up on occasion, but my daily outfit is just Tshirts, jeans, and a hoody if it's chilly. I wear flats mostly but I will throw on some heels whenever appropriate. I like to think I have style but I'm not very bold in my choices.

I think it's ridiculous that any woman, TS or otherwise would be subject to a dress code in order to establish or prove their femininity. I'm waaaaaaaay more feminine than any man so I don't think there's a problem telling the difference. I think the preoccupation with clothes and feminine adornments are more of a CD thing. TS broads wear whatever they feel like wearing at the time.

[Kaitlyn Michele]

Feminininty is not a female only thing.. As a man or a woman (gg or otherwise ), there is a huge range of expression relating to gender...

Be as femme as you want....it's probably true that as we contemplate or start transition, we tend to be more focused on this and more focused on being more femme...but if you find you become more and more femme, that's great, enjoy it!

I wore the same jeans and skechers all weekend..

[Julia_in_Pa]

Hi,



I never dressed prior to my transition.
I know quite a few TS and IS women that never did due to situations they were not able to control.
When I transitioned in 2006 everything was very new and exciting.
I wore dresses and skirts with dress pumps each day along with perfect makeup.
With each passing year my need and desire to dress in an extremely feminine way became less and less important.
Now days I wear mostly pant suits or slacks with a nice top and flats for shoes.
I rarely wear makeup now.
On my days off I wear t-shirts and jeans with running shoes.
In the summer I wear bermuda or cargo shorts with running shoes or flip flops.

I used to have my nails done but I don't feel the need for that any longer either.

I have simply become me.
I don't need anything else.
My GID ended December 11th 2006 so your statement concerning handling GID in a different way makes no sense to me.
When one transitions one's GID dissapears.

Even at my most boyish my gender is not questioned either by myself or the public.


Julia

[NCAmazon]

I love this topic.

In some ways I am stereotypically "girly" and in some ways I'm not. I generally don't like fussing with my hair, I'm in a loose pony almost every day. I generally don't like wearing makeup, but I do enjoy getting made up sometimes. I do love to dress up on occasion, but my daily outfit is just Tshirts, jeans, and a hoody if it's chilly. I wear flats mostly but I will throw on some heels whenever appropriate. I like to think I have style but I'm not very bold in my choices.

I think it's ridiculous that any woman, TS or otherwise would be subject to a dress code in order to establish or prove their femininity. I'm waaaaaaaay more feminine than any man so I don't think there's a problem telling the difference. I think the preoccupation with clothes and feminine adornments are more of a CD thing. TS broads wear whatever they feel like wearing at the time.

Well Feminine clothes and adornments are a very natal woman thing. if you look at department stores and malls, Most of the products sold is for feminine goods or girly clothes as they say. So its a very natal woman thing for some. But there are many GGs on the other side who don't care to put that much effort into all those types of things and don't like to spend hours shopping.

I was very much wondering about Transitioners who present very feminine and girly from the start with clothing, makeup and jewelry stay that way years later. And those that mostly wear jeans and t shirts stay that way years into transition? And some inbetween of course. Even well into transition do some still feel at times that they need to dress more girly or feminine to help reinforce their indentity in times when they drop and don't feel like they are quite a woman yet???

[Julia_in_Pa]

I will have to disagree concerning feminine clothes and adornments being a very natal woman thing.

Most women that I work with and my overall observations out in public tend to paint a very different story concerning what natal women wear.

The are variants to this however that you might be basing your own observations on.

Younger natal adult females tend to dress in a more feminine manner. This makes sense because they tend to be single and searching for either a mate or acceptance by a member of the male species.
Middle aged women tend to spend less time on such accoutrement and dress due to having much less time.
Many are parents and also working full time.

You will also see feminine dress represented on different levels concerning race and culture.

I live in Allentown, PA. There is a very large Puerto Rican population.
Puerto Rican women tend to dress extremely feminine bordering on the absurd.
In grocery stores it is normal to see a Puerto Rican woman wearing 4 inch pumps with skin tight jeans and very tight tops.
The differences between an average Caucasian woman and a woman of Puerto Rican decent when it comes to presentation on a daily basis is striking to say the least.
Puerto Rican men as a whole are extreme on the opposite end acting very macho and protective of their women as they compare to the stereo typical white male.

In this group along with other cultures within this country your assertion is absolutely correct.

For the vast majority of white bread America most women do not dress in a very feminine manner on a daily basis.

If we rewound the clock back to the thirties, forties and fifties then your assertion is spot on for just about very segment of the natal female population.


Julia

[cyndigurl45]

Before reality set in I tried the girly girl thinggy, I am 5'9" and could get away with wearing certain outfits and be girly, mostly in the winter months, but on the day I decided I was going to live as a woman all the time. I was 250lbs. had 20" arms and could bench press 275lbs. with over 31% body fat, So girly girl was gonna have to wait, as time went on HRT has been kind, I am down to 165lbs. my arms are a very tone 18" I can't bench 275 but most people don't mess with me ;) OH I got my body fat down under 15% I look great according to friends and I feel great, I look in the mirror and like what I see, for the most part, one thing still dangles and after his friends left ;) he's much smaller and even more insignificant :) I have found my groove if you will, that's what we all have to do, find what works for me and go for it............

[Badtranny]

Well Feminine clothes and adornments are a very natal woman thing. if you look at department stores and malls, Most of the products sold is for feminine goods or girly clothes as they say. So its a very natal woman thing for some.

Um, yes, women's clothes and accessories do tend to be worn by women. My point was that the PREOCCUPATION with BEING and LOOKING feminine is mostly a CD thing. Natal women are not concerned about being mistaken for a man. There are indeed plenty of women, natal as well as trans that enjoy all things feminine. I myself enjoy cute jeans and cute tops and with my current body you would not mistake me for a man in jeans and a Tshirt, but I don't get dressed up every day or even every weekend in a dress, heels and makeup. I don't think trans women get their sense of identity or femininity from their clothes. We wear cute clothes because we want to look cute, not because we want to feel feminine.

[Aprilrain]

I've had to help GG friends with make up. My one friend was like "wow brushes, FANCY" LOL
I wear what I want. I do like feminine attire more often than not but as I type I'm wearing jeans a tank and a flannel, I haven't worn makeup in days and my hair is pulled back. To really stir things up!, I've been sewing sewing sewing (how girly can you get??) yet im wearing Jeans. Go figure. I'd say im a tomboy but I know how to get all dolled up when I want and unlike seemingly most GGs my age I like to wear a dress weather permitting.

[Traci Elizabeth]

I live a typical natal woman's lifestyle in that I wear dresses and skirts when appropriate (i.e. going to church or a fancy dinner). I wear causal clothes on all other occasions mainly jean pants, jean Capri's, and jean shorts as well as dress up Capri's and long pants on some occasions (i. e. going out with girlfriends, going to see my doctor, shopping at the mall, etc.)

For casual tops, I typically wear low cut neckline that are form fitting, and more moderate tops for whenever I wear dress-up pants.

I love all of my clothes from very casual wear up to formal dresses. I simply dress for the occasion. I have also learned to LOVE FLATS! Walking around in high heels has very limited application for me (i.e. Church, formal dining out, etc.). I have tons of casual sandals with block or thick heels but NOT high heels. But I still prefer my FLATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Make-up I also do the full range from full make-up to no make-up. But more often, I quickly throw on Blush, Eye Shadow, and lipstick all of which takes me at most 5 minutes.

Just call me Casual Traci!

[Julia_in_Pa]

You nailed it!! Spot on.


Um, yes, women's clothes and accessories do tend to be worn by women. My point was that the PREOCCUPATION with BEING and LOOKING feminine is mostly a CD thing. Natal women are not concerned about being mistaken for a man. There are indeed plenty of women, natal as well as trans that enjoy all things feminine. I myself enjoy cute jeans and cute tops and with my current body you would not mistake me for a man in jeans and a Tshirt, but I don't get dressed up every day or even every weekend in a dress, heels and makeup. I don't think trans women get their sense of identity or femininity from their clothes. We wear cute clothes because we want to look cute, not because we want to feel feminine.

[Vickie_CDTV]

Can a TV chime in?

A friend of mine, an older TS had dressed in a more traditional way for a long time. What changed her was not a lack of desire to wear skirts instead of pants, but the judgement of GGs (downright cattiness sometimes) around her. It is really sad that some women do that to other women, maybe it has something to do with competing for resources long ago, but it is still sad some women still feel a need to be that way.

Kind of ironic in a TV's eyes, a person transitions and escape the "gender prison" they were in due to their gender at birth, only to be assigned a new "prison" by the gender they are transitioning to.

[Julia_in_Pa]

Vicki,

That is some interesting insight.
I remember my first year or so of transition where the GG's were remarking how I should tone it down. They said I was making them look bad. LOL!!!
So I can certainly see why your friend has had it a little hard concerning wearing more feminine attire when it comes to being judged by some GG counterparts.


Julia

[Katesback]

I consider myself athletic. Since I am working out so often I wear athletic clothes a lot of the time. If they are girly then fine if they are not then fine as well. I dont give it much thought.

Katie

[Kaitlyn Michele]

..... I dont give it much thought.

Katie

Just looking at the OP, the above pretty much sums up the answer to this question if you are successful in transitioning and accepting yourself in a female role.

You wear whatever the heck you want, whenever you want, and you feel however it makes you feel ...
...the femininity and clothes are just something you do..

transition is about going for the feeling that you are just yourself and have nothing to prove..we all do what it takes for that feeling..

i can't quibble with someone that wants to wear more feminine clothes...i had my whole face rearranged to look more feminine!!

[Bree-asaurus]

Feminininty is not a female only thing.. As a man or a woman (gg or otherwise ), there is a huge range of expression relating to gender...

Be as femme as you want....it's probably true that as we contemplate or start transition, we tend to be more focused on this and more focused on being more femme...but if you find you become more and more femme, that's great, enjoy it!

This pretty much sums it up.


[...]I dont give it much thought.

Katie

And this sums it up even quicker.

I'm a tom-boy. Jeans and t-shirts all the time. I do like jewelry and girly stuff... but it's just too much hassle to get all prettied up :P Heck, the only reason I wear makeup is to distract from my manlier features. If I had a proper female face I wouldn't even bother with makeup.

And to sign off my post about being a tom-boy, I'm about to go change the oil and replace the shocks on my new (old) pickup ;)

[Kathryn Martin]

I agree with you on this. If you are a feminine woman you wear feminine clothes. I always wear make-up when I leave the house, I always dress age appropriate I always look feminine even in jeans and tops.

Like my mother, my sisters and my spouse does. That is how I grew up. I love fashion. You would not catch me dead in sweatpants outside the house.

None of this means that my transition is any different than a woman who doesn't care about her dress.


Feminininty is not a female only thing.. As a man or a woman (gg or otherwise ), there is a huge range of expression relating to gender...

Be as femme as you want....it's probably true that as we contemplate or start transition, we tend to be more focused on this and more focused on being more femme...but if you find you become more and more femme, that's great, enjoy it!

I wore the same jeans and skechers all weekend..

[Katesback]

LOL Bree. I recently changed the oil in my truck. To be honest I dont like getting dirty (strange before transition I didnt mind it). I do the oil change because the truck takes three gallons of oil. I would guess it would cost me a lot more money to have someone else do it. To add to it an engine replacement for my truck is well over $10,000 dollars and I dont want a bone head screwing it up.

Oh yea back to the girly thing. Well I can tell you it is a strange paradox when I get out of my truck wearing a dress and heels. Oh yes the truck is a one ton dually. I dont drive a church truck babe.

[RachelOKC]

I wear what's appropriate for the occasion, plain and simple. Today at a meeting with an employment counselor I wore a business casual skirt and top. I wanted to look like I was reasonably serious about being there but my suit would have been going overboard. That'll be for interviews and an upcoming job fair.

Yesterday lazing around the house was a tee shirt, capris, a do-rag, a day's worth of facial fuzz, and racoon eyes from the long day before. (I was certainly not at my prettiest...) And when I work on the car, it's the greasy old boy jeans and tee shirts. Don't really care if I mess those up and don't much care what I look like when I'm changing the oil.

Since most of us want to feel good about ourselves, buying clothes that are flattering, fun, and attractive will go a long way toward that. The clothes I buy are feminine simply because they're made for women. Even the blandest tees and polos I have are still cut with a feminine shape and would not be easily mistaken for men's clothing.

[Kristy_K]

I am still new to transitioning. So I like to dress nice in dresses when or where I can or I can feel just as good in jeans.

At work I dress a little nicer then a lot of the GG's there because I like to. There are a few GG's that do look down on me for it and try to cut me down for it. But that is their problem.

I also hate getting dirty now but will if I have to. Considering I work on 40ft. greasy machines for a living.

The bottom line is that I dress the way I want. I am sure my ideas will change in time. But this also part of transitioning in my opinion.

[Beth-Lock]

So when seeing a TS who acts very girly is this the same as a natal woman who acts and dresses the same way? Is a TS who wears jeans and t shirts all the time similar to a more casual girl who does that all the time?

I think natal women dress up because they feel better about themselves, if they do, feel more secure and confident, in part because they look classier. As you said, like a lady.

I do it, because I got tired of wearing pants for so many years, even women's styles, and it gives me greater confidence that I can pass.

So I think there are subtle differences.

What can you tell about a natal woman by seeing she dresses well, basically dresses up and is well but not unnaturally made up? Perhaps that she has the energy, conscientiousness and intelligence to do it and do it well. It also speaks of self-esteem.

Anyway, I am not bored with it yet, though recently I have been reducing how thoroughly I am made up, only increasing it to the standard I used to reach,if I have a real reason. On the other hand, to pass, as well as look good, I don't hardly go out the door without fresh lipstick on.

And yes, I cross-dressed, even in public, for a couple of years before I went full-time, three years ago.

[CharleneT]

Just so add a little balance . . . I personally like to dress up as often as it comes up - or I can find a decent excuse ! But I wear only simple makeup if I do. I'm not acting out any pre-op girly notions either ;) I am just not a tom boy. BUT, I do live in a college town, so the dress style here skews young - hence I look quite "appropriate" !

As for malls etc having mostly feminine clothes for women, I think you need to look at all the other places women - especially older ones - shop.

[Aprilrain]

A big part of Transition for me is my body. It's important to me that I look completely female in a burlap sack! Being girly or feminine is IMO something that is intrinsic. I've met some pretty masculine TSes and some pretty feminine CDs and of course Cis folks run the gamut as well from Arnold Swartenager to Reese Witherspoon and everything In between , in both sexes!

[terrianncd]

I perfer the "girly" look myself although I wear womens jeans and tshirts a lot of the time. Between my wife and I, I am the one who is more girly. Patty wears jeans and tshirts 99% of the time, while I like to change to a nice dress or skirt in the evenings while we are doing whatever in the house. Last night she says" I would like some fresh baked cookies, so why don't you go put on your fav 50's dress and petticoat and get dolled up like June Clever and bake us some cookies?" Why this sounds like a great evening to me...

[Sharon]

The whole purpose of transitioning is to be who you are. Period. The manner in which you dress or behave is a personal choice and is irrelevant when you really get down to it. Just be yourself.

[Julia_in_Pa]

Terri,

Whereas your tales of dressing is interesting to a certain crowd the OP's original question concerns transsexuals as opposed to CD's.
I could be wrong but your name here does have CD at the end of it.
You could now believe your Transsexual and are on the path to transition and if this is so then I retract this reply to you.
The wedding dress photo along with remarks concerning your wife asking you to put on a dress leads me to believe your not TS.


Julia


I perfer the "girly" look myself although I wear womens jeans and tshirts a lot of the time. Between my wife and I, I am the one who is more girly. Patty wears jeans and tshirts 99% of the time, while I like to change to a nice dress or skirt in the evenings while we are doing whatever in the house. Last night she says" I would like some fresh baked cookies, so why don't you go put on your fav 50's dress and petticoat and get dolled up like June Clever and bake us some cookies?" Why this sounds like a great evening to me...

[Princess Jen]

I tend to be a girly girl as far as my personality goes. As for clothing, I like wearing dresses, skirts, and heels etc if I'm going somewhere nice. But most of the time I go out I'm just wearing flats, jeans and a cute t shirt or blouse. :D

[Nicole Erin]

I like to wear a ball gown and glass slippers when I am working on my car. Especially if it involves tearing into the engine.
Although yesterday I had to do some work to the back brakes and i wore a wedding dress for that occasion.

[Aprilrain]

I like to wear a ball gown and glass slippers when I am working on my car. Especially if it involves tearing into the engine.
Although yesterday I had to do some work to the back brakes and i wore a wedding dress for that occasion.

Your poor laundress must go through a ton of Shout! ; )

[noeleena]

Hi,

This begs the ? of what should i wear, then while doing building, driveing our 4 x 4 work hack or one of our 2 ,15 ton trucks, oh did i say about working on them gearbox moters & diff's apart from any thing else.

No need im a woman.
i dress for the job in hand , like im not going to be wearing my skirt & heels up the ladder on to the roof doing work , or am i. you dress in a suitable way for the approprenees of the work in hand.

ill wear my overalls for most of those jobs yes dust dirt muck grease & all. im just not a girle girl never was never will be, im a trades woman, gee that sounds neat,........

...noeleena...

[Bree-asaurus]

Hi,

This begs the ? of what should i wear, then while doing building, driveing our 4 x 4 work hack or one of our 2 ,15 ton trucks, oh did i say about working on them gearbox moters & diff's apart from any thing else.

No need im a woman.
i dress for the job in hand , like im not going to be wearing my skirt & heels up the ladder on to the roof doing work , or am i. you dress in a suitable way for the approprenees of the work in hand.

ill wear my overalls for most of those jobs yes dust dirt muck grease & all. im just not a girle girl never was never will be, im a trades woman, gee that sounds neat,........

...noeleena...

LOL... I still get into my guy cloths when I work on my truck. I don't have any of my cloths that I want to mess up... looks like I need to take a trip to Goodwill :P

[KellyJameson]

Check out Chris Tina Bruce on youtube Cyndi, she gets what life is really about and expresses it passionately in her own unique style, an incredibly couragous person who I much admire.

In my mind if I go from trying to act male which is impossible to trying to act female according to someone elses standards I go from one hell that I did not choose into one of my own making.

Learn from others but make your own rules as they apply to you.

[Bree-asaurus]

In my mind if I go from trying to act male which is impossible to trying to act female according to someone elses standards I go from one hell that I did not choose into one of my own making.

I have heard of some transexuals that do this... drop their high-paying job because it is male-dominated, and go work for peanuts at a nail salon because that's what they thing being a woman is supposed to be.

The whole point of transition is to be yourself... to STOP pretending.

I'll be d***ed if I give up my favorite things in life (working on cars... developing computer applications) because it's not the stereotypically feminine thing to do.

I DO WHAT I WANT! :D

[Badtranny]

I DO WHAT I WANT! :D

You are never going to be accepted into the trans community with an attitude like THAT young lady.

[Bree-asaurus]

You are never going to be accepted into the trans community with an attitude like THAT young lady.

Sounds like a trans-community problem... not my problem :P

[Andie Elisabeth]

I'll be d***ed if I give up my favorite things in life (working on cars... developing computer applications) because it's not the stereotypically feminine thing to do.

I DO WHAT I WANT! :D

It looks to me that you needs to learn history of Computer Science because when I code I think of Ada Lovelace (^_^)

EDIT: Being sometimes passive agressive is my fault that I try to not to do. Otherwise I don't know why there aren't more women in CS (-_-)


You are never going to be accepted into the trans community with an attitude like THAT young lady.

Good girls go to heaven, bad girls where they want. Heck, there are more than 2^128 (big number) ways to live a life. I can almost always form an alternative trans community where I'll be accepted :tongueout

[Sophora]

You are never going to be accepted into the trans community with an attitude like THAT young lady.

I hate to say this, however I am not trying to accepted into the trans community. I am trying to be a girl all the way so as long as I am accepted as a female I really don't care what the trans community thinks of me.

[Michelle James]

I was apprehensive about replying to this post. What I am getting from this seems to be an attitude that one could somehow be less of a TS if she likes girly things or wears a dress once too often. As tho it may be a sign she is reverting back to those CD fetish days. Why is it OK for a CD to wear whatever, but if you are TS don't overdo the girly.

Ok now that I got that out of my system, personally I lean more to the tomboy side, jeans and tops. I wear what's comfortable. That's not to say I don't own a skirt or a dress. Don the occasional fem look if the situation calls for it, but I'm not focused on it after all it's just clothes.

[Bree-asaurus]

I hate to say this, however I am not trying to accepted into the trans community. I am trying to be a girl all the way so as long as I am accepted as a female I really don't care what the trans community thinks of me.

I think you took her post too seriously...

[RachelOKC]

I was apprehensive about replying to this post. What I am getting from this seems to be an attitude that one could somehow be less of a TS if she likes girly things or wears a dress once too often. As tho it may be a sign she is reverting back to those CD fetish days. Why is it OK for a CD to wear whatever, but if you are TS don't overdo the girly.

Ok now that I got that out of my system, personally I lean more to the tomboy side, jeans and tops. I wear what's comfortable. That's not to say I don't own a skirt or a dress. Don the occasional fem look if the situation calls for it, but I'm not focused on it after all it's just clothes.

Awww, that's ok...nobody here must be a *REAL* TS, because a *REAL* TS would never be caught dead on a forum called *crossdressers.com* talking about clothes! :devil:

:::fleeeeeeeeing:::

[Sophora]

I think you took her post too seriously...

Maybe or maybe not. I may have been responding to other sources as well.

[Kathryn Martin]

All things considered, even in jest this is one nasty comment.


Awww, that's ok...nobody here must be a *REAL* TS, because a *REAL* TS would never be caught dead on a forum called *crossdressers.com* talking about clothes! :devil:

:::fleeeeeeeeing:::

[Badtranny]

All things considered, even in jest this is one nasty comment.

I disagree. I know Rachel personally and I don't think it's possible for her to ever be nasty or mean. She's as sweet as they come.


Maybe or maybe not. I may have been responding to other sources as well.

It was a joke. I'm clearly and proudly on the outside of any community.

[NCAmazon]

Well upon looking into things more, there is now a movement of women who are trying to bring femininity back because the feel modern society has moved away from lady like behavior in women. So they take on missions to wear skirts everyday or heels a lot.

In fact there was spark a few years back when a group of college lacrosse women NCAA champions wore flip flops to visit the president and many felt that was not very professional or lady like or appropriate.

Some of this movement is a generated by religious views. But even on Morning TV talk shows and news shows the female hosts are mostly wearing skirts and dresses most of the time. And these aren't necessarily revealing outfits but classy ones. So there must be a motive there for feminimity.

[Kaitlyn Michele]

Gosh Sophora, you really did take that totally the wrong way and pointed your sensitivity to your issue at exactly the wrong person...

the real answer to the ts is "it is what it is"...it just doesnt matter....if you are wondering whether your desire to be really feminine in your attire speaks to whether you are starting to realize you are ts, the answer is simple, there is no way to know..
it makes perfect sense that a confident dresser would be more interested in this topic, and i know crossdressers that dress crazy femme and some love to be casual and "real"...

[NCAmazon]

Gosh Sophora, you really did take that totally the wrong way and pointed your sensitivity to your issue at exactly the wrong person...

the real answer to the ts is "it is what it is"...it just doesnt matter....if you are wondering whether your desire to be really feminine in your attire speaks to whether you are starting to realize you are ts, the answer is simple, there is no way to know..
it makes perfect sense that a confident dresser would be more interested in this topic, and i know crossdressers that dress crazy femme and some love to be casual and "real"...

Yes,

you are right in a way but what most of society sees is presenting more feminine is a means to establish ones womanhood. Or wanting to move towards TS. But if the change is internal I guess it doesn't matter if one is girly girly or tomboyish.

[Sophora]

Gosh Sophora, you really did take that totally the wrong way and pointed your sensitivity to your issue at exactly the wrong person...


Who says I didn't take it the right way the first time? ;)

[Chickhe]

Well...from a occasional Cding point of view, doing anything but feminine most often results in a male appearance... however, after gaining some confidence, I find that I don't always need everything to be perfect to present and feel feminine. From a blending in angle, its sometimes a challenge to downplay everything to match the average...I tend to notch it up just a bit to blend and still appear female... unless you have all the female attributes, say after HRT and such then just being yourself will make you appear to be transgender, maybe or male or female and that's okay if that's what's comfortable... I guess its all about feeling comfortable in your own skin, so that's the place you want to be and its doesn't matter what you look like. Style though is not really related to your gender...you can look great, average or like a slob no matter who you are...

[ELIZABETH46]

i am with you Melissa H., i dress every day from morning to night, naturally.
if i am working in the yard ( i do this a lot ) i dress very loose but you can tell i am a woman.
around the house i clean on a skirt and a blouse, or shorts and a blouse but you can tell my bra is "picking" out.
i dont need to be in "feme" mode all the time, i actually have ( and had all my life ) very feminine manerisms.

[Bree-asaurus]

Was working out on the farm today, building chicken coop. I've been just wearing my guy cloths when working outside and getting dirty because I don't have any old ratty girl cloths for such occasions.

But I did wear a cami and put my hair up and I make a pretty decent woman when working outside and getting all dirty... I can get some old cheap tops at Goodwill for getting dirty, but I'm not going to find pants in my length there... :(

[Ingrid1999]

I feel just as much in drag wearing a business suit as I do in a dress. I am a jeans and t-shirt kind of gal.

[Sophora]

I am more of a dress/skirt kind of girl. I only wear pants because of my job and my family doesn't accept me yet. Wear whatever you want, GGs certainly do.