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Kate Simmons
05-01-2012, 08:13 AM
Do you feel that you have mastered the art of looking and feeling what you consider to be feminine? Why do you feel you have? If not, what do you feel you would have to attain to get to that point? Or, do you feel that it is something that is not attainable? I'm sure it's all a matter of individual perspective but I'm interested in how you all feel about this. :)

sonna
05-01-2012, 08:28 AM
nope! still a learning process but im getting better and better every day. the only thing i attained is weight
witch i need to get ride of and im sure i will be more passible. oh ya and getting my ears pierced.
i guess all will come in do time.

kimdl93
05-01-2012, 09:26 AM
Far from it. I am gradually getting a little better at my physical presentation...wardrobe, make up, etc. My voice and mannerisms have a long way to go, but I am working on them.

I don't expect to be perfect, but I do hope to be sufficiently competent that I can blend in well.

BillieJoEllen
05-01-2012, 09:51 AM
I regret that I tried so hard as a teenager to fulfill everybody else's idea of what a 'macho' man would be. I went out for sports, did a lot of weightlifting, did thid and did that just to fulfill everybody else's desire as to what I should be. Consequently I developed too many habits and shaped my once feminine looking body into something that is very unfeminine. I've tried reversing the process with no success. I do live in the real world and feel very uncomfortable expressing anything femme. Wish I would've taken a different turn back then.

The femme feelings I had as a child, teenager have however always stayed with me. At least I have that.

Lorileah
05-01-2012, 09:56 AM
Define feminine. Do I look like a woman when I dress? Yes. Can I bake a cake (how stereotypical)? yes. Can I fix a wall or a car or do landscaping? Yes. Can I cuddle and watch old movies? Yes. Can I really hate when guys think that being feminine is wearing a dress or heels or make up or walking like they have something in their pantyhose or doing the myriad of things that guys think women should do? Yes, I have mastered that.

Karren H
05-01-2012, 10:00 AM
No but I've "mistressed" being feminineish"

Stephanie47
05-01-2012, 11:39 AM
When it comes to wearing the clothes I believe I appear feminine. I have watched many of the instructional videos on the Internet. I have adjusted my mannerism, when en femme: brushing the hair out of my face, the walk, the proper feminine traits of sitting like a lady. If I could just get a younger face, that would be helpful. My wife says I have a younger face than my age (she's a doll) but it is too masculine. :(

RenneB
05-01-2012, 12:29 PM
This is a long journey what with the wardrobe, makeup, body issues and the like. Like the other posters, I feel that I am getting better at it and it's becoming more natural. Each day, I find that I've gotten a little 'trick' down pat and move on to the next one.

As the zeros start to pile up in the checking account (someday) that's when the physical 'corrections' can occur. I've gotten my attitude started in the right direction now it's just all the little details.

I'm having a blast at it and gettin out and about really makes me feel just that much better...

Renne.....

katie_barns
05-01-2012, 12:42 PM
Can I act like the typical girl and pull it off? Usually! As far as being feminine.... Depends on how that is defined. Which can vary from person to person.

For me being comfortable in public dressed as a woman is close enough. The rest is my inner peace and feelings which I am mastering slowly but surely.

Organza
05-01-2012, 12:56 PM
I envy everyone who has posted to this thread because you're all so much further along than I am, or probably will ever be. If I had not found true love at 55, and maybe even the possibility of another kid (which is the best thing in the world for me), then I would be trying to follow this path, rather hopelessly. As it is I just love wearing dresses and heels sometimes. My wife accepts that but doesn't want to be around.

I am sensitive to Lorileah's points. When guys think girls "should" dress this way and do that and walk that way, it's sad and maybe sick. The one time it can be positive is if both partners enjoy it -- I love it when you do that, and you love my loving it, etc.

Lisa

suzy1
05-01-2012, 01:06 PM
I have always seemed to act sort of feminine naturally.
I have been teased over the way I run, the way I sing, the way I hold a cup or glass. And I have often found myself sitting or using my hands in a very feminine way.
And in 4” heals you should see me wiggle.
But it all comes without consciously having to think about it?

I just thought it was becouse there is a bit of girl in there somewhere.


SUZY

Marleena
05-01-2012, 01:41 PM
Hi Kate I think I look feminine. I know I feel feminine when all done up. The mannerisms and the walk still need work. 50+ years of being a guy takes some retraining.:)

Kate Simmons
05-01-2012, 01:51 PM
Great responses so far my friends. The way I personally see it is to just be yourself, be in tune with your feelings and the rest will naturally follow, especially in relation to presentation.:)

minalost
05-01-2012, 01:52 PM
I don't think I will ever be perfect. I seem to learn something new all the time. It's an on going journy that I never expect to end. I guess that's part of what makes it fun!

Cheryl T
05-01-2012, 02:07 PM
I feel that just as with a little girl growing to womanhood this is a never ending process. We are always learning how to conduct ourselves, modifying how we look and always attempting to achieve perfection. I think that if we feel we have fully achieved our goal then we will become stagnant and fall behind.

StarrOfDelite
05-01-2012, 05:04 PM
Have not, as Karen said, "Mistressed" the art yet, and expect I never will. I manage to blend pretty well, so long as no one looks closely at me, and if I can bop around town in my own little fantasy world without anyone puncturing the bubble, that's about all I ever really hoped for, anyway.

gender_blender
05-01-2012, 05:53 PM
I believe I have mastered being feminine within the confines of my frame and facial structure without having any surgery.

Frédérique
05-01-2012, 07:17 PM
Do you feel that you have mastered the art of looking and feeling what you consider to be feminine? Why do you feel you have? If not, what do you feel you would have to attain to get to that point? Or, do you feel that it is something that is not attainable?

According to whose criteria? I don’t feel I have to “master” anything, in fact doing so spoils the fun – why not just enjoy dressing, play at being a girl, and leave it at that? That attitude may anger “career” TG types, but I’m just a boy who dresses as a girl on occasion, no big whoop…
:battingeyelashes:

I’m happy to be the recipient of the good vibrations crossdressing provides, meaning I can float around in my crossdressed state and tuck masculinity away – the latter has been pushed into the closet, literally, and “she” is allowed to flourish. But, is she feminine, or just a blended cocktail of gender attributes that “passes” for female? I can only be what I am, dressed or not…

If a mastery of femininity is something worthy of attainment, what do I get out of removing all vestiges of my birth gender? I may feel like I’ve traveled to one of the poles, only to find I have nowhere to go but back from whence I came – as such, this is NOT my life journey, meaning I am not trying to attain perfection via dressing, comportment, and willful suspension of disbelief. I am much more interested in mastering other things, and crossdressing helps me stay the course towards those achievable goals…

suchacutie
05-01-2012, 07:39 PM
When Tina started out my wife explained that growing up as a girl was the "boot camp" of learning to be feminine. So, Tina started out as a newborn, learning how to dress herself in clothes expected of girls. As a young child she experimented with makeup and jewelry and such, and then moved on to adolescence including emotions, psychology, language, deprotment, etc. You can see that it's simply taken time to learn and master being a girl bit by bit over time, and sometimes with trial and error!

At this point Tina is considered a teenager, so there are some things she is pretty good at, some things she needs work, and other things that really have not yet been brought into the frey.

There is a ways to go, but there have been real successes along the way!

Eryn
05-01-2012, 08:30 PM
Mastered? Heavens no! I doubt that I ever will.

However, every new thing I learn adds to my enjoyment.

sherib
05-01-2012, 09:06 PM
I don't ever think thats going to happen. GG learn from the time they are born, their movement and thought process in ingrain. A gurl has to act too for years to master their movements. With a GG it's just natural.

daarleane
05-01-2012, 10:03 PM
No and I don't think I ever will. I just want to enjoy myself and it simply isn't necessary. Besides I can't unlearn 75 years of masculinity.

April_Ligeia
05-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Haha at 6'5" and 250 pounds, 200 at my most anorexic, I am never read as feminine. I suspect that I am read as gay, or queer, etc, but I don't worry about it because to me it is about personal expression.

Diane Smith
05-03-2012, 12:00 AM
There is always a lot more to learn. I've settled on a look and a wardrobe that works well enough for me most of the time, but I would never be so pretentious as to say I've "mastered" the craft. If I ever stop wanting to learn and improve my presentation, it will be time to stick me in the ground. (And I feel the same way about work, hobbies and other activities I do. The idea of reaching the level of a "master" in a trade went out with the guilds of the Middle Ages, if you ask me.)

- Diane

Beth Mays
05-03-2012, 07:07 AM
Haha at 6'5" and 250 pounds, 200 at my most anorexic, I am never read as feminine. .. to me it is about personal expression.

I too do not think I could pass no matter what. 6 foot 200# my arms are a dead giveaway ..... sure is fun to try though!

Julia_in_Pa
05-03-2012, 07:27 AM
Since I transitioned over five years ago I would think I've got it down and then some.


Julia

divamissz
05-03-2012, 07:51 PM
Sweetie, you are going to learn something every day. If you don't, you are probably...dead.

BLUE ORCHID
05-03-2012, 08:09 PM
Hi Kate, as aways an interesting thread, If I take my time I can make a pretty good presentation
I got the walk, the arm and hand manerisms down pretty well and the wig and make up works great
but I'm sure someone could read me though. I've only been doing this for almost 65yrs. I'm
still in the learning stage.

Barbara Ella
05-03-2012, 08:10 PM
I am very new, and have only recently ventured out en femme. Have i mastered anything, NO. Have I attempted to live out small portions of my feminine side, YES. Am I happy, YES. Will i continue to get happier? I hope so, and I will try. I will never master, not enough time left, but I will attempt to live out little moments of my feminine side and see where that leads. I know I will improve what I do and who i am. i will never master being feminine, but I will so enjoy the attempts that will console my soul.

Barbara

Teri Ray
05-04-2012, 03:10 PM
I have only mastered being a female in my mind. Still very much on the amature circuit.

Tina B.
05-05-2012, 10:56 AM
I gave up trying to master it, years ago, I spend my time these days, enjoying it!
Tina B.

Sarah Doepner
05-05-2012, 11:50 AM
not even close, but then I never mastered being masculine either

Wendy Seymone
05-05-2012, 01:54 PM
Have I mastered being feminine?

I think I will simply keep letting the people that I interact with to decide that for themselves.

TGMarla
05-05-2012, 01:58 PM
Have I mastered being feminine? Not a chance, but it's still fun to play at.

PretzelGirl
05-05-2012, 06:41 PM
Do we ever master anything? Anyway, the journey is the fun part. I don't ever want to think I am at the end.

TatianaJames
05-05-2012, 09:18 PM
I say yes I have mastered it but for some reason Im always looking for reasons to improve. No need to stop trying more and more!

adrienner99
05-06-2012, 08:28 AM
No, but then again I never mastered being mascuine, either. Or "manly," thank God.

IngeInCO
05-06-2012, 08:33 AM
I'd say it's impossible. We can try and succeed for the most part, just have fun trying!

Jonianne
05-06-2012, 08:49 AM
I see the most important aspects of being feminine are the characteristics of the heart. That is not something an individual can claim for herself, it has to be bestowed upon her by others.

Krististeph
05-06-2012, 09:08 AM
When i teach (college) I get to be supportive and nurturing. i think i have to tone this back a little actually- but it is a great chance to have a good reason to tone down normal masculine aggressiveness & response. Maintaining patience is a good thing too- this might not be 'feminine'- but in light of most of the teachers who were not patient that dirve me to be opposite them- they were men. Funny though, some of the toughes and best teachers were also the most patient. Wish i could be more like that.

Physically- i need to drop a solid 5 from my midline, and keep it off. My arms are slimming a little- I built them up a few years back- they were pretty skinny naturally- i added some serious muscle, but they were a little big for a feminine outline. If I can drop the waist size, i'll add a little more to the arms again, but by doing lots of reps and not as much mass- tone the muscles a little more.

Also- housekeeping- need to keep the house cleaner and do some fix up projects to make it easier to keep things clean- another closet in my ("Kristi's") room, and turn our main closet into walk-in.

I'd love to be able to 'pass' whilst cycling in cold weather gear (covered up enough to be able to hide my face and lesser feminine features)- but that's not what I would call a 'need'.

Wish I could wear (tolerate) a corset better, or not need one... and be able to fit into a size 14 dress easily.

Debutante
05-07-2012, 05:01 AM
I am still trying to master. It is improtant to me to find the feminine inside, and then allow it expression, so it's more authentic. Being feminine and womanly are two large ideals for me to strive for.

noeleena
05-07-2012, 07:23 AM
Hi,

Being feminine.

Hmmm depends on you as a person how your wired & what makes you tick,

another part is how you look your movements body langage talking & interacting with others.& manerisims

oh yes of cause how you see your self spos the bottom line is are you male or female, this can & does make all the difference.

what comes natural ,

I dont act nothing is put on & i have friends who have said they see a feminine woman every thing is natural as it should be . now i could say things about my self just to look good i cant be bothered with that because i know my self to well to know

if i was trying to be other than who i really am. & Jos would tell you if i was or not,

If i was puting it on or being other than i am i would soon be found out real quick.. & my friends are really on to it, so if or when you see me youll percive im a woman..

i did not say in looks so what im saying is in my body langage manerisms talking & how i conduct myself youll know im a woman.

so being feminine is not just in looks as many think its the over all personlity of the person. & how you show your self as a person. that counts,

One thing i can add is i did not contrive in my walking talking manirisms body langage because it all just flowed did i even have to learn this some wont agree i know the answer is no it was there, & was a part of who i am as a woman well female part of.
Really it comes down to growing as a woman , & that has been so neat,

...noeleena...

Joanna41
05-07-2012, 07:28 AM
I certainly have not mastered anything yet...I need more practice with everything. I might say I'm pretty food to mastering shopping for bargains though!

Joanna