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longirl
05-22-2012, 09:04 PM
Does Anyone else Have and empty feeling because they cant get pregnant and have a baby grow inside them and get to where all the Cute maternity stuff.

Genivieve
05-22-2012, 09:16 PM
I absolutely do. I know it's weird but I always smile when I see a pregnant woman. It is one of the ultimate expressions of femininity that I can never experience. I do understand that it is painful and involves a lot of responsibility however, a a lot of my female friends are at the age where they are beginning to have families. Since I was a child I pictured myself more as a mother figure.

mcvste
05-22-2012, 09:18 PM
I guess it is a common wish. Maybe one day science will get there.

Debglam
05-22-2012, 09:29 PM
They had a documentary on several months ago about a trans-couple, FTM & MTF, that married and had a baby. They had a lactating device (bottle connected to tubes and an artificial nipple) rigged so that the MTF "mom" could nurse the baby. It was beautiful and so totally "womanly." She cried and I cried watching it.

Yes, I do think it is a common wish.

FYI. I think that this is a forbidden topic on the forum so the thread may vanish.

Debby

Bree-asaurus
05-22-2012, 09:36 PM
I wish I could have a child... unfortunately I do not have the necessary female parts... and have been infertile for a while (and just had an orchie).

My boyfriend is FTM and he plans on going off of testosterone long enough to bring his parts out of hibernation so he can carry our child. I have a good friend who will donate the sperm that I can no longer provide. My boyfriend can breast feed as he hasn't had top surgery yet, but hopefully I can as well because my boobs do produce milk... and with the help of additional hormones and hopefully the motherly connection I can produce enough to keep the baby off of formula. At least I'll have that bonding experience.

Anna Lorree
05-22-2012, 10:13 PM
The maternity clothes were never "cute" to me. However, I have always felt a great deal of envy toward women. I very much wish I could feel a life grow inside me, but I know it will never be. When Knitknerd was pregnant, I could feel our children move within her and I wished they were within me. I lived vicariously through her, but sincerely wished I could have felt it first-hand.

Anna

christinac
05-22-2012, 10:38 PM
Back in 08 there was this medical article (There is a copy here in one of the closed threads, but I can't find it) about where it is possible to transplant the necessary hardware to conceive and carry a child into a trans-female (for lack of better words) during GRS. It was a real hot topic for a short while.

As for the question of do I wish I could get pregnant? I would have to say yes if I was twenty or so years younger, but at my age pregnancy would be risky, 50/50 gamble, for mother and child in a perfectly healthy GG, so logistically I would have to say no.

Simply Joslyn
05-22-2012, 10:57 PM
Back in 08 there was this medical article (There is a copy here in one of the closed threads, but I can't find it) about where it is possible to transplant the necessary hardware to conceive and carry a child into a trans-female (for lack of better words) during GRS. It was a real hot topic for a short while.
I read about the same very recently actually something about using anti-rejection meds to allow the proper working and they wouldn't end up harming the child as well as in the future using stem cells to essentially create one from the patients own tissue, sounds interesting.
As for the question do I wish for it, not entirely sure I wish for kids, maybe I'm just not at that point in my life but I don't want to hurt my kids like my parents did and I don't know if I could control it, when I get angry it builds very quickly and I could never do to a child what my mother did to me.

MC-lite
05-23-2012, 03:07 AM
Does Anyone else Have and empty feeling because they cant get pregnant and have a baby grow inside them and get to where all the Cute maternity stuff.
@longirl: Yup! All the time.

...I know it's weird but I always smile when I see a pregnant woman...
@Genivieve: I smile too, but I also get a feeling of inadequacy because I can't. I guess that's what natal females who are infertile feel like when they see a pregnant woman.

Kaitlyn Michele
05-23-2012, 07:08 AM
Does Anyone else Have and empty feeling because they cant get pregnant and have a baby grow inside them and get to where all the Cute maternity stuff.

Wear the cute maternity stuff????

as a father i get lots of mothering in...

Julia_in_Pa
05-23-2012, 07:23 AM
I have no parental instinct whatsoever.
I'm childfree and with turning 46 this year I wont be having any.

Do you have a fetish for maternity wear we should be aware of?


Julia

Lesley_Roberta
05-23-2012, 09:05 AM
Yes entirely.

But, here's the real question, would you arrive at it naturally :)

BRANDYJ
05-23-2012, 09:08 AM
I think pregnant women are beautiful. But that is one of several things a GG can and does go through that I am so glad and thankful that I can never experience.

Sophora
05-23-2012, 09:16 AM
I wish I could get pregnant as well. It is one of my dreams.

elizabethamy
05-23-2012, 09:20 AM
Finally! A reason to say that it's good I didn't discover my transgenderedness until I got Old! Children: already got some. Yay. Devoting my fantasies now to other aspects...

elizabethamy

Babeba
05-23-2012, 09:23 AM
There are so many GG women who cannot conceive so I think this is something a lot of you have in common with them. I wonder which is worse... Knowing it is not a possibility, ever, or trying and trying for years without success..

Anna Lorree
05-23-2012, 11:09 AM
There are so many GG women who cannot conceive so I think this is something a lot of you have in common with them. I wonder which is worse... Knowing it is not a possibility, ever, or trying and trying for years without success..

My wife and I tried for a while and lived through two miscarriages before we got our children. I can only imagine trying unsuccessfully for a decade or more, the heartache involved.

Anna

Rianna Humble
05-23-2012, 12:05 PM
There are so many GG women who cannot conceive so I think this is something a lot of you have in common with them. I wonder which is worse... Knowing it is not a possibility, ever, or trying and trying for years without success..

If only there was a "Like" button on these forums.

I can't really answer which is worse, I'm not even sure that I want to look for degrees, I only know that being unable to carry a child helps me to empathise with other women who cannot conceive.

sierra_g
05-23-2012, 02:19 PM
Maybe take some HCG and you can experience some of the side effects?

AudreyTN
05-23-2012, 02:29 PM
I saw a beautiful mother with a toddler today, and I had a tinge of sadness, but I've accepted that will never be one of the things I will get to experience as a woman. There's always adoption and while not the same, we should take solace in the fact that there are many many genetic women who are unable to bear children as well.


With the advancements of technology, and the ability to swap organs that is readily available, I would think it could happen, but I feel sorry for the person who has to go through the pelvic modification surgery in order to make it happen. It will be terribly risky, terribly expensive and I would presume rather excruciatingly painful. I don't think naturally conceiving a child would be worth all of that personally, but some may disagree with me.

prene
05-28-2012, 06:39 PM
I would love to have a child.

My fantasise, if I could make it happen I would.

MC-lite
05-28-2012, 06:52 PM
Take a look here.
http://www.rt.com/news/first-uterus-surgery-success-845/

Give it time...Before you know it, we'll be able to bear children just like our natal counterparts. :)

LeaP
05-28-2012, 07:30 PM
Bearing a child is not something I would ever want to do. But then, we already have 6!

RachelOKC
05-28-2012, 07:31 PM
I think I was in high school when I had my first dream about being pregnant. It's one of the few that I still remember vividly because it seemed so wonderful and I felt so happy. It was tremendously sad to wake up and realize that it just couldn't be.

When my wife was pregnant four years ago, I had minor sadness because I couldn't experience what she did but it really didn't bother me much. Most especially after that unending labor and horrendous delivery she went through, along with all the other "pleasures" of pregnancy that nobody ever talks about. We were both thrilled however when she grew a fantastic pair of breasts, hahaha. Those go away too though! :)

Anyhoo, can't have a kid myself, but we're happy to have a healthy kiddo and that's good enough for me.

AudreyTN
05-28-2012, 08:09 PM
Take a look here.
http://www.rt.com/news/first-uterus-surgery-success-845/

Give it time...Before you know it, we'll be able to bear children just like our natal counterparts. :)

AMAZING!!!! unfortunately it won't happen before my window closes completely, but I am so glad that the technology will be available to those in the future.

this will surely inflame the bigoted genetic women who will resent this in every aspect.

MC-lite
05-28-2012, 08:27 PM
this will surely inflame the bigoted genetic women who will resent this in every aspect.

Not only that, but it's got to be a blessing for Natal females who can't conceive because of uterine problems.

AudreyTN
05-28-2012, 08:41 PM
here's a recent updated on that story Michaela

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150178/The-worlds-womb-transplant-Landmark-surgery-brings-hope-millions-childless-women--happen-Britain-soon.html

Jordan
05-29-2012, 11:13 AM
If I could get pregnant I would love so much to to have me boobs fill with milk and to have them get bigger wow a a feeling that would be

RachelOKC
05-29-2012, 11:26 AM
If I could get pregnant I would love so much to to have me boobs fill with milk and to have them get bigger wow a a feeling that would be

Cue icky feelings and skin crawling all around...three...two...one...mark. Eww.

Traci Elizabeth
05-29-2012, 01:12 PM
Sure! If I had transitioned when I was in my 20's and the doctors successfully implanted fertile ovaries busting with eggs, Fallopian tubes, uterus, and cervix. But guess what? It ain't going to happen in my life time.

Lesley_Roberta
05-29-2012, 01:35 PM
Under the heading of watch what you ask for though.

Ok women DO die in child birth.

Then there is several months of watching your body get stretch marks and watching all your clothes not fit and no guarantee you will ever get back into them.

Then there is the part where you might die in child birth, oh I mentioned that.

My hat is off to the world's actual mothers that risk their lives for our species.

Laurie Ann
05-29-2012, 02:55 PM
I have also wished that I could have been pregnant to feel live growing inside of your body must be amazing. My wife still speaks about how happy she was when she was pregnant.

Dethgirl
05-30-2012, 12:13 AM
I'd love nothing more than to be able to carry a child in the future.

MandyGG
05-30-2012, 12:48 AM
I have been blessed with being able to carry 3 children.... All three were hard pregnancies with many complications. I nearly lost my son multiple times, then nearly lost my life from hemorrhaging during birth. If there were the possibility of the man to carry the baby, given how hard pregnancy can be on some women, I am sure many of us would let it happen.

And, the comment about wanting the boobs filling with milk.... Just to let you know, engorgement is the most painful experience I have EVER been through. Painful to the point of wishing I could cut them off! I would be careful what you wish for!

nikkijo
05-30-2012, 01:01 AM
it would my sole motivation to expidite the SRS surgery to infront of a house, a new larger shop, and a filled long list of toys i want that are higher monetary priority to my personal self need

Babeba
05-30-2012, 05:36 PM
AMAZING!!!! unfortunately it won't happen before my window closes completely, but I am so glad that the technology will be available to those in the future.

this will surely inflame the bigoted genetic women who will resent this in every aspect.


You know... I think this is being a little trans centered/cissexist. Sure, some ciswomen will dislike this and resent it... But probably the majority of patients will be barren cisfemales like the woman in the article, many of whom have probably already tried hormones or even IVF techniques, all of which gets them criticized by other people in general. There is the religious angle - going against the will of God that you be childless of your own get - and the social responsibility angle - there are millions of unwanted children in the world, it is selfish and arrogant to spend that much money on having your own when you could adopt. I have known many women who have had to deal with these criticisms, and I think this surgery is just going to be on that spectrum... And the negativity a trans woman would get for this surgery will be pretty much the same as a ciswoman doing the same procedure.

As for couples who hypothetically would have to choose whether a GG or a TG should bear the babies? That's going to be a different thing for each couple... And I think that it's lesbian couples they would have to look to for guidance on that one. It would probably at least in part depend on the stage of relationship that the transition occurred in.

Raquel June
05-30-2012, 09:11 PM
I've never really thought I would enjoy being a parent. But still, I've often felt really upset that I'll never be able to be pregnant. Like I would do anything just to know for a second what it felt like. And that makes me feel a little crazy -- how can I want to be pregnant so much when I don't know if I want to be a parent?

I think I just can't really envision what my children would be like. They could be obnoxious brats. And I can't really handle the idea of feeling like a father.

But then I was with a woman for 2.5 years that I was completely in love with. And she had two kids that I loved so much and they were so cool just to be around and I loved hanging out with them and making them dinner and helping them with their homework and getting them on the bus. They were my family and I miss them terribly.

I guess that's why I'm noncommittal about SRS. It's not going to get me any closer to being a mom.

MC-lite
05-30-2012, 10:06 PM
You know... I think this is being a little trans centered/cissexist.

You're right...it is. But having been on the receiving end of "If you can't have babies, then you're not a woman", It's kinda' nice to see that the above statement is no longer true (within reasonable limits. We still do not know if a natal male transitioned chassis can support the stress of bearing children. The Natal female chassis is designed to do this from birth.)


Sure, some ciswomen will dislike this and resent it... But probably the majority of patients will be barren cisfemales like the woman in the article, many of whom have probably already tried hormones or even IVF techniques, all of which gets them criticized by other people in general.

And that's a damn shame. I'd be the first to tell the criticizers to...well...where to go, how to get there, and what to do when they arrive.

Reproduction is one of the most powerful, primal forces in nature. If we trans people go through so much emotional turmoil being in the situation that we're in, I can only imagine how these poor women must feel.

To see science finally help them gives me hope for humanity!


There is the religious angle - going against the will of God that you be childless of your own get
I think there's a special ring in hell just for people who would stand in the way of a soul entering this world.

- and the social responsibility angle - there are millions of unwanted children in the world, it is selfish and arrogant to spend that much money on having your own when you could adopt.
There are some women who can show that kind of unconditional love, but, IMHO not all women can. The only way I'd want a child is if it came from inside of me. I'm not sure that I could show somebody elses child the same love. (But that's just me...)

And the negativity a trans woman would get for this surgery will be pretty much the same as a ciswoman doing the same procedure.

Oh I couldn't agree more! Not to mention the media circus. Or the emotional ramifications for the child, if the Mother and Child survive the ordeal.


As for couples who hypothetically would have to choose whether a GG or a TG should bear the babies? That's going to be a different thing for each couple...
I would think that physiology would be the predominating factor here, although there will probably be some people who will resent a Tgirl bearing their young.

Besides...Who can say if a TGirl would survive a childbirth, much less the transplant itself.

And I think that it's lesbian couples they would have to look to for guidance on that one.
Yup :)

It would probably at least in part depend on the stage of relationship that the transition occurred in.

If you're talking about a couple in which one partner transitioned to female, that's a whole other can-O-worms. :)

Who can say...

Nicole Erin
05-30-2012, 10:29 PM
Does Anyone else Have and empty feeling because they cant get pregnant and have a baby grow inside them and get to where all the Cute maternity stuff.

Not no but hell no.
Kids are a pain in the butt.

Babeba
05-30-2012, 10:44 PM
Michaela,

Unquestionably a tgirl giving birth would HAVE to do a c section. There is physically no other way, a GM sacrum is very curved and would block the vaginal passage from fully dilating, to say nothing of the strain of having childbirth occur and what that might do to an organ which wasn't grown there! The pregnancy would also be pretty fraught with issues and would need very VERY careful monitoring, most likely by a team of specialists.

The whole babies=woman thing sucks. I mean, I'm not a mother and have never been pregnant. WTF? Am I not a woman, either?? If those who would tell you that YOU are not a woman, would not tell me the same, they are logically inconsistent aholes. Of course there are some (very twisted) folks out there who would say that I am not a woman yet, either- and to them, I would say, "Fine! That's okay, I'm happy being a not-woman if that means I get to associate with cool people like Michaela, and everyone else who is not-woman on here!" :hugs:

Bree-asaurus
05-30-2012, 10:49 PM
Michaela,

Unquestionably a tgirl giving birth would HAVE to do a c section. There is physically no other way, a GM sacrum is very curved and would block the vaginal passage from fully dilating, to say nothing of the strain of having childbirth occur and what that might do to an organ which wasn't grown there! The pregnancy would also be pretty fraught with issues and would need very VERY careful monitoring, most likely by a team of specialists.

The whole babies=woman thing sucks. I mean, I'm not a mother and have never been pregnant. WTF? Am I not a woman, either?? If those who would tell you that YOU are not a woman, would not tell me the same, they are logically inconsistent aholes. Of course there are some (very twisted) folks out there who would say that I am not a woman yet, either- and to them, I would say, "Fine! That's okay, I'm happy being a not-woman if that means I get to associate with cool people like Michaela, and everyone else who is not-woman on here!" :hugs:

I think I read that with current and the near future abilities of womb transplants, even GGs would need C-sections. But you are right... male hips aren't designed to fit a baby through. Maybe they'll do womb/ovary/hip transplants one day! Or brain transplants! Or heck, just find the cause and invent some friggin cure for gender abnormalities so future generations don't have to deal with these kinds of issues!

Rianna Humble
05-30-2012, 11:13 PM
The whole babies=woman thing sucks. I mean, I'm not a mother and have never been pregnant. WTF? Am I not a woman, either?? If those who would tell you that YOU are not a woman, would not tell me the same, they are logically inconsistent aholes. Of course there are some (very twisted) folks out there who would say that I am not a woman yet, either- and to them, I would say, "Fine! That's okay, I'm happy being a not-woman if that means I get to associate with cool people like Michaela, and everyone else who is not-woman on here!" :hugs:

This doesn't just deserve a "like" button but a "really love that" button!

And folks, let's not forget that the very few GG's who have stated something like that in the past on these forums were suffering from an essentially abusive relationship with someone who revealed themselves as CD or TS yet those women still came here trying to understand what we go through.

Let's remember that we have all said regrettable things at some stage in our lives especially if we have been deeply hurt and let's try not to harbour resentment for any regrettable words we might read here.

ReineD
05-30-2012, 11:14 PM
this will surely inflame the bigoted genetic women who will resent this in every aspect.

What bigoted genetic women? There are nay-sayers among women AND men, most of whom I should think would object for religious reasons (a fear or a reluctance to play God). I hope you were speaking of these people and you do not feel that women generally are against uterine transplants. This is wonderful news for women who have defective, or no uteri, just as wonderful as a heart or a kidney transplant to save a life.

MC-lite
05-31-2012, 08:13 AM
This doesn't just deserve a "like" button but a "really love that" button!

And folks, let's not forget that the very few GG's who have stated something like that in the past on these forums were suffering from an essentially abusive relationship with someone who revealed themselves as CD or TS yet those women still came here trying to understand what we go through.

Let's remember that we have all said regrettable things at some stage in our lives especially if we have been deeply hurt and let's try not to harbour resentment for any regrettable words we might read here.

@Rianna: I think I'd press the "Like" button on this post as well as on Babeba's post. :)

@Babeba: This place would be a lesser place without You and others like You. :hugs:

:Miki

Kaitlyn Michele
05-31-2012, 08:40 AM
The thing about beng a parent is that its about the child
..it seems outright crazy to me to implant organs to let you give birth just to experience the birth...what about the baby??? is the kid just an afterthought?
If the procedure is totally safe for the child, then i am all for it.. i think perhaps how you view abortion (i'm not going there!!) may influence how you feel about this...

anyway, we all responded so seriously to the OP who wants to be pregant to wear "cute maternity stuff"... try a pillow and a belt...

Traci Elizabeth
05-31-2012, 08:47 AM
it would my sole motivation to expidite the SRS surgery to infront of a house, a new larger shop, and a filled long list of toys i want that are higher monetary priority to my personal self need


It looks like you are not getting SRS anytime soon! :heehee: