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Perplexed
05-28-2012, 10:09 AM
My son and I left my husband about a year ago. He's coming (with my step-child) out to visit our son and staying with me. Shortly after I left, I found out he was cross-dressing. Again, it's not a big deal to me, before I met him I lived with a homosexual cross-dresser who wore my clothes all the time, I even went to clubs with him. However, my husband doesn't know that I know this about him.

Yes, we're separated, but he doesn't want a divorce, any time I bring it up he tells me I'm stressing him out and he doesn't want to talk about it. Yet, talks negatively about me to his friends & co-workers...?

Should I tell him I know and that I don't care or should I just try to act natural (which will be hard for me to do imagining him wearing my clothes when I'm at work)

JessHaust
05-28-2012, 10:13 AM
I'm not him, so I can't imagine what is going on in his head. But if it were me, I would want you to tell me you know and that you were OK with it.
Remember that most CD/TG's live in constant fear that others will find out about us and think poorly of us.
The truth that people don't really care as much as we imagine can be a very comforting realization.

Vieja
05-28-2012, 10:17 AM
Now I am perplexed, if you want a divorce why do you care what he wants. It seems to me divorces should not be too hard to get in this day and age. And

if he is stressed "so what". Do what is best for you.


Vieja

BRANDYJ
05-28-2012, 10:23 AM
Perplexed. I remember your first posts about your relationship. But in order for any of us to advise as to tell him you know about his crossdressing, I think we need to know more as to what you think to gain by telling him you know. First, is it because you hold out hope to save the marriage and that with him knowing you know and that you are OK with it, that he may change or be endeared to you for your acceptance? I can't believe you want to tell him just to keep him out of your clothes while you are at work. There has got to be a reason that you think you need to tell him beyond what we know of your separation.

STACY B
05-28-2012, 10:27 AM
He better not be wearing YOUR clothes !!! Thats a NO,,,NO,, Around my house unless you ask first . Thats not the way to get the party started thats for sure !!

Rebecca W.
05-28-2012, 10:27 AM
Please, tell him that you know about his crossdressing and that it is not a big deal for you that he does it. Maybe offer to go out shopping with him and buy him something feminine to show that you understand. It might heal the wounds in your relationship or at least show that you can open up to him with some of your repressed feelings about him.

Take care,

Rebecca

April_Ligeia
05-28-2012, 10:43 AM
Why is he talking negatively about you to friends and coworkers, and then coming over to stay at your place? I would call him out on THAT. Maybe staying at a hotel would improve his manners.

Marleena
05-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Why is he talking negatively about you to friends and coworkers, and then coming over to stay at your place? I would call him out on THAT. Maybe staying at a hotel would improve his manners.

I agree with this. It'll keep him out of your clothes too.:)

Karren H
05-28-2012, 11:06 AM
I'd tell him that you know and then use it to your advantage! Lol. A bit of leverage never hurts in any situation.

TxKimberly
05-28-2012, 11:11 AM
I'd tell him that you know and then use it to your advantage! Lol. A bit of leverage never hurts in any situation.

Karen, you would have made a good officer or NCO - you have a knack for getting right the heart of a matter, not to mention that you appear to have a tendency to go straight for the juggler vein . . .

I DO think that you should let him know. It is entirely possible that the stress of hiding such a thing might be contributing to your marital problems/seperation. Letting him know that you are aware of this (as long as it is not done in a threatening way) may well help . . .

stacycoral
05-28-2012, 11:48 AM
I agree with this. It'll keep him out of your clothes too.:)


Why is he talking negatively about you to friends and coworkers, and then coming over to stay at your place? I would call him out on THAT. Maybe staying at a hotel would improve his manners.


I'd tell him that you know and then use it to your advantage! Lol. A bit of leverage never hurts in any situation.
The ladies have spoken! Take care of you!hugs

Barbara Ella
05-28-2012, 11:57 AM
Just to repeat for effect. You are the important one, with your child. You both come first. You need to take charge. tell him you know, and set boundaries while he is there if he really must stay with you. Put your clothes off limits. Unless you really still care for him, dont go shopping with him, but encourage him if he wants, but put the limits on when he can dress that you are comfortable with.

And if you really need the divorce to move on with your life, take it. Matters not if he gets stressed. Sounds like you are/have been very accommodating to him.

Be in charge.

Barbara

Karren H
05-28-2012, 01:07 PM
Karen, you would have made a good officer or NCO - you have a knack for getting right the heart of a matter, not to mention that you appear to have a tendency to go straight for the juggler vein . . .
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No sense in pussy footing around. Lol.

suchacutie
05-28-2012, 01:16 PM
As always with human interactions, your situation is complicated.

1) you left him. Have the reasons for that split changed? If not, why are the two of you still married?

2) if CDing is no big deal then tell him. In fact, let's get everything out into the open. If you want to work on the marriage, attempt to do so. If you don't, then divorce him. If you want to work on the marriage and he doesn't, divorce him. Summary: if you both want in, terrific. If either one of you want out, end it!

3) under no circumstances should he be allowed to do anything in your house that is not ok with you, and that includes wearing your clothes! He is a visitor and should act accordingly! If he won't, throw him out!

Sorry if I seem a bit harsh, but Karren is right here...go for the jugular and get a decision!

tina

sterling12
05-28-2012, 03:00 PM
I am going to get personal, so you don't need to answer this question for one and all on this Forum. You said you were separated, and apparently as a favor, you are letting him stay at your residence. Does this mean he will be using your bedroom? The reason I ask is because it would be easy enough to drop down to Walmart and pick up a Nine Dollar Cheapie Knob Door Lock. If you own a screwdriver, you can probably install it, and if you had to ask your son to install The Lock, I imagine he would understand.

It wouldn't keep out a determined burglar, but it ought to "give him the message" about entering your bedroom. So, you have avoided a confrontation if you want to do that; and you are keeping your estranged hubby out of your stuff! Probably not The Perfect Fix for a much bigger problem, but it will take care of things for right now.

Peace and Love, Joanie

RADER
05-28-2012, 03:04 PM
One thing you never really stated is why do you want the divorce? Was it for dressing?
If that is the primary reason, then go for the juggler, if not then why do you not get a lawyer and
file for a divorce. You really do not need his permission to get one.
Welcome to the forum, hope you stay and be a part of this great place.
Rader

Perplexed
05-28-2012, 06:22 PM
Perplexed. I remember your first posts about your relationship. But in order for any of us to advise as to tell him you know about his crossdressing, I think we need to know more as to what you think to gain by telling him you know. First, is it because you hold out hope to save the marriage and that with him knowing you know and that you are OK with it, that he may change or be endeared to you for your acceptance? I can't believe you want to tell him just to keep him out of your clothes while you are at work. There has got to be a reason that you think you need to tell him beyond what we know of your separation.



I want to let him that I am capable of knowing something *this* deep about him and not letting everyone know and that he can trust me with it.

We're not separated due to the crossdressing at all. He's a very selfish person. He says things out of anger, just to get a response. If I let him know something bothered me, whenever we'd argue, he'd make sure he'd bring up that particular thing again. He'd rather play video games or watch porn vs spending time with our son. [ie: the night before we left, he played video games all night and didn't even tell us goodnight.] The morning we left, he didn't tell me bye at all and just hugged our son.

He skypes with Jack once every 3-4 weeks, otherwise, he doesn't have time for us...which I don't understand. If he doesn't want a divorce and he wants to come visit and stay with us... he doesn't make any sense with his words vs his actions.


I am going to get personal, so you don't need to answer this question for one and all on this Forum. You said you were separated, and apparently as a favor, you are letting him stay at your residence. Does this mean he will be using your bedroom? The reason I ask is because it would be easy enough to drop down to Walmart and pick up a Nine Dollar Cheapie Knob Door Lock. If you own a screwdriver, you can probably install it, and if you had to ask your son to install The Lock, I imagine he would understand.

It wouldn't keep out a determined burglar, but it ought to "give him the message" about entering your bedroom. So, you have avoided a confrontation if you want to do that; and you are keeping your estranged hubby out of your stuff! Probably not The Perfect Fix for a much bigger problem, but it will take care of things for right now.

Peace and Love, Joanie


I wish I knew the answer to this, I've asked him several times if I need to buy bedding for the guestroom or if he plans on sleeping with us. [Our son is young so he'd still in bed with me 90% of the time - he has night terrors a lot.]

The best response that I've gotten is, "Depends on how well we're getting along."


One thing you never really stated is why do you want the divorce? Was it for dressing?
If that is the primary reason, then go for the juggler, if not then why do you not get a lawyer and
file for a divorce. You really do not need his permission to get one.
Welcome to the forum, hope you stay and be a part of this great place.
Rader

I started a new job a couple months ago that doesn't offer insurance - so it's actually in my benefit at this point to stay married since he still has me covered on his insurance. However, prior to my current job, he wouldn't even discuss it. Right now, state law prohibits me from filing until I've lived here for over 1 year. It hasn't quite been a year yet, so I'm torn.

No, the separation wasn't for CDing at all - I found out AFTER we left that he was doing this.


Why is he talking negatively about you to friends and coworkers, and then coming over to stay at your place? I would call him out on THAT. Maybe staying at a hotel would improve his manners.

I really wish I could be mean, but I can't be. We have 2 children [one has passed away] and he's my children's father and as much as I absolutely hate it, I do still love him and he'd get to spend more time with our son staying with me. Now, if he turns into an ass while he's here, he will be getting a hotel.


I'd tell him that you know and then use it to your advantage! Lol. A bit of leverage never hurts in any situation.

I like you.

Unfortunately, I can't be mean to save my life.

Rebecca Star
05-28-2012, 06:33 PM
No sense in pussy footing around.

That's a truly profound statement given the overall context of this forum. :D

Perplexed
Do you love your husband or are you still in love with him?
Two completely different feelings (if anyone was wondering).

The trashing of you, to friends and co-workers behind your back, has to be addressed. That's no way for anyone to carry on. It's even stranger behaviour given he doesn't want to go forward with a divorce.

Sounds to me like both of you need to have some serious chats, face to face and be 100% honest with each other. Make a list of everything you want to say in point form. This includes the way he talks about you behind your back. Leave nothing out and put all cards on the table.

We can't choose who we fall in love with. But, we can most certainly choose how we let people treat us.


ciao

Rebecca

Jenny Beth
05-28-2012, 06:35 PM
Why let him stay with you at all? Seems to me he's burned a bridge but needs to cross it out of convenience. Sure your son can stay but he should get a motel room and you won't have to worry about him going through your clothes. Somehow I don't see his staying with you turning into a good thing.

RADER
05-28-2012, 07:14 PM
I started a new job a couple months ago that doesn't offer insurance - so it's actually in my benefit at this point to stay married since he still has me covered on his insurance. However, prior to my current job, he wouldn't even discuss it. Right now, state law prohibits me from filing until I've lived here for over 1 year. It hasn't quite been a year yet, so I'm torn.

No, the separation wasn't for CDing at all - I found out AFTER we left that he was doing this.

I hope your year comes up soon; Some states will allow you to stay on his insurance for a short time, say 3 months.
I think you can buy the insurance also for a short time, but that can be costly.
Good luck.
Rader

Dethgirl
05-29-2012, 11:22 PM
I don't know anything about you guys or your marriage, but I've talked to guys online who are deathly afraid to tell their wives or family, and I've talked to others who had finally done it and then had their wives be disgusted or leave. Maybe you should tell him that you know and that it's not a big deal to you if he CDs. If I were in his position, I'd want know if you knew.

Joanne f
05-30-2012, 02:11 AM
Not sure if there is any need to outright tell him but you could give him a little hint by doing something like showing him a skirt or something and saying " I have always thought you might look good in one of these " and see where it leads.
Adds an element of fun to it :D

Kaz
05-30-2012, 02:21 AM
I think you should tell him, BUT you need to be clear about whether or not this was a reason to seperate. He will probably assume it was. You therefore need to be very clear about why you left him. His talking about you at work etc is probably due to the hurt and anxiety he feels because you have left him... a natural (if not very helpful) response to what he could feel is a personal attack... My wife wants to leave me... not because of dressing, but more that she wants a different life... but I feel dreadful.... like a failure... I can't begin to describe the pain and hurt I am going through... but then I am not 'talking behind her back'... except for now!

These things are always complicated and I am not a trained counsellor... I am just trying to look for an objective standpoint... if he doesn't want a divorce, he mostly wants the lifeline to things being resolved... so you need to be as open and honest as you can...

Hope it all works out for you..

Rachel Flowers
05-30-2012, 02:26 AM
How much of his behaviour might have been driven by his hiding this part of himself from you - and possibly from himself too?

Diane Elizabeth
05-30-2012, 07:33 AM
As previously said. What is there to be gained by telling him what you know. Revenge. Play dirty in a divorce with a child involved. I would hope not. I recommend you take the high road. At least for now. If he gets stressed out and denies anything and everything when you talk to him, then there may be other issues that he has. I would urge him (in a positive way) to get conseling. I was and am (sometimes) in denial. II would stress out if certain subjects would come up. I am getting help now. It takes time and he will need to want to see a therapist. Good luck with whatever way you go about it.

Tina B.
05-30-2012, 08:26 AM
Yes, we're separated, but he doesn't want a divorce, any time I bring it up he tells me I'm stressing him out and he doesn't want to talk about it. Yet, talks negatively about me to his friends & co-workers...?

Should I tell him I know and that I don't care or should I just try to act natural (which will be hard for me to do imagining him wearing my clothes when I'm at work)

Perplexed, I don't know you or your husband, but my wife and I where having trouble with the marriage, it sounds a lot like yours, until we had that talk. We separatedarated at the time we finally talked, and I told here all there was to tell, we got back together that very day, and have lived happily ever since, and that was almost 36 years ago, so talking can help. His anger could be pefrustrationtrtion from a life of hiding who he feels he really is, it's not an easy thing to live with, until you come to terms with it. If you want to try again, the talk may help, if you really want to put up with the time it takes for a lot of us to break down and be that honest about something we have hidden from all the world, all of our lives. Many CD's live in a constant state of fear, over being found out, and I'm afraid it can effect all other parts of our lives. For your kids sake, I hope you are clear about what you are trying to do, and confessonfuss the boy.
Tina B.

Wonderwho
05-30-2012, 10:07 AM
Why is he talking negatively about you to friends and coworkers, and then coming over to stay at your place? I would call him out on THAT. Maybe staying at a hotel would improve his manners.

First things first, there is no way he should stay at your place. April is right, maybe he needs to get manners adjusted then let him know thar what goes around comes around. Dont let him bad mouth you then want to make sweet.
Wonderwho

Jill Devine
05-30-2012, 05:10 PM
How much of his behaviour might have been driven by his hiding this part of himself from you - and possibly from himself too?
Bingo!

Let's not underestimate the huge impact of fear and shame of hiding a deep dark secret. It can lead to anger and withdrawal as a coping strategy. To be clear, I am NOT condoning his past behavior. Sounds like he has been a crappy husband. But there's perhaps a reason why has been this way.

My advice: tell him you know and that you still love him regardless. Then see where it goes. You might be pleasantly surprised!

I am talking from experience. Years ago when I was hiding and sneaking, I became a real jerk. I took my stress out on the family. I am ashamed to even admit that. When my wife accepted me and I went public, I found more peace and did become a better husband. Perfect? No, but muuuuuch better.

Tell him you know. Be gentle. Don't judge. And see where it goes. You have little to lose and lots to gain!

ReineD
05-30-2012, 07:35 PM
Should I tell him I know and that I don't care or should I just try to act natural (which will be hard for me to do imagining him wearing my clothes when I'm at work)

I've just caught up on your older thread here and it sounds as if you'd like some closure.

In your last thread you were looking for possible answers as to why your husband was so mean to you, and I get the impression you wanted to figure out if having kept the CDing under wraps and the pressure that goes along with this might have caused the demise of your relationship somehow.

Several CDers responded, and I agree with them, that pressures resulting from being in denial over, or being afraid to tell you about the CDing, does not need to lead to abusive behavior. In other words, your husband can well have issues that are deeper than the CDing.

Do you still love him? Do you still harbor hopes that he will resolve his issues and if he does, he will again become the man that you knew and loved before?

If you are trying to answer these questions for yourself, then you do need to tell him what you know (with assurances that you're OK with the CDing), together with telling him how you felt over the abusive behaviors that he had engaged in before you left, to see if he will acknowledge his part of the responsibility in your breakup. And until you do this, I WOULD NOT leave the decision to sleep together up to him. I would tell him that he needs to sleep in the guest room until the two of you have put everything out on the table and hashed it all out.

And if you don't love him any more, then the two of you need to move on from one another romantically so that you can both be free to pursue relationships with more compatible partners, and if this is the case there is no reason to sleep together.

Brigid
05-31-2012, 12:05 AM
I would let him know that you know that he is CDing. Maybe it will cause him to deal with it. I know without a forum like this I would have been a casualty. The unnecessary guilt causes you to do stupid things. This maybe why he is into porn. It could be that it validates his maleness and proves to himself that he's not gay. Anyway porn does not belong in a marriage. Maybe if he accepts his CDing, he can deal with those parts of his life that is causing him to be a bad husband and father. Just my thoughts and I'm no expert. Good luck either way.

Hugs,
Brigid

Brenda79135
05-31-2012, 06:28 AM
If he must stay with you during this time, he should stay in the guest room. This will inforce in him that he is separated from you. Don't let him walk in and think you are a push over and he can do anything he wants to you. The time spent at your home should be a technology free zone. No computer, tv, cell phone. This will tell him there is a problem between the two of you. this will also start to foster conversation between the two of you. If he can't follow these rules then maybe a motel would be better for him.

As for telling him that you know, that would be on his temper. From what I I have read, he has not grown up yet and is acting as a spoiled brat that needs to get his way all the time. He needs to start taking responseability for his actions and not expect anybody but himself to pick up the pieces when things go wrong. You are a person who has taken responsability for yourself and your child. You need to look out after yourself and your child and not let him upset the life you are building for yourself. If he continues to bad mouth you behing your back, you have his fear of being found out as leverage against him. This may make things worse between the two of you, but in war and love, anything goes. I wish you the the best of luck with this.

Brenda

kimdl93
05-31-2012, 07:36 AM
Be honest with him about what you know. And your opinions on the subject. On he subject of your marriage, is divorce inevitable? If not it seems that the two of you need to talk openly about what was going wron. That may be easier with a counselor.

jillleanne
05-31-2012, 03:55 PM
Your call on that one. me personally, I'd tell him I know, I couldn't give a hoot, and expect the divorce papers in the mail on Monday, like it or not. It affects your life and if you want a divorce, get one!!! And tell him to bring his own clothing if he expects to dress. You're clothing is off limits!!!!

mykhelee
05-31-2012, 04:19 PM
I would be careful concerning the benefits as a reason to stay married. Because you have lived apart for so long the insurance company could easily balk at paying a large claim from you. The courts may or may not hold him as the financially responsible party. Being on his insurance while living apart due to "differences" can also be considered insurance fraud according to the laws in some states...be careful...here in MI it is considered abandonment after thirty days.

Put a lock on your bedroom door and show him the way to the guestroom...the whole CD thing really doesn't matter, your self esteem does.

If you want the divorce get it...I paid for every bit of both of my divorces...I retained the attorney, I filed. It comes down to what you want to do that is right for you...staying married while living so far away that he has to stayover is not going to get you further down the road to a restart for your life.

Babeba
05-31-2012, 04:31 PM
Perplexed, :hugs:

I want to let you know that I feel really badly for the bad situation you are in, and I think you have a lot of grace in dealing with this situation. I'm not going to lie, the situation with your husband has made me irritated, and the posters above me who are talking about how fun it would be for you to take him shopping or show him a skirt and say you've always wanted to see him in one definitely don't help, because they are projecting their OWN fantasies for their OWN lives on your situation and that's totally inappropriate. So be warned, this is a grumpy post!

Your husband sounds like a bit of a dog, and so I think you need to treat him as such. Talk to him in 'dog language' -- with actions that show that this is YOUR turf.

First, he may be staying at your place - but it is YOUR PLACE, not his. He isn't paying for it and living there full time, you are. When it comes time for him to come in the first time, show him around to the places he will be allowed: the living room, the spare room, the bathroom, the kitchen (whatevs) but leave your room and your son's room OFF LIMITS. Don't show them to him. You take HIM around to show him things, and take your time enough with it to really emphasize that is what you are doing. I definitely agree with the lock on the closet idea, as well. You don't need to be thinking about him trying on your things while you were at work. (I would make sure that your bathroom, your laundry room, etc. are free of your clothing as well. If he makes a comment about it, you can make the comment right back, "why do you care where my clothing is?"/"I would hope you would ask permission before wearing anything of mine.")


If he makes ANY comments about wanting to sleep together, well, tell him that wasn't the point of this visit and there is a lot that needs to be resolved in this relationship first. If he gets pissed off about that - well, if you sleep with him then you would be teaching him that getting pissed off at you = him getting laid and you're setting a bad precedent. Also, with the amount of unresolved issues in your relationship, if he gets pissed off about you wanting to resolve things before sex? He is wanting to use you to get off, not wanting to make love as two souls joining.

I don't think there is no hope left, as TinaB says her relationship was much like this but they were able to resolve it - but right now, there are a hella big number of manipulation issues that have nothing to do with crossdressing, believe you me. They need to be dealt with before ANYTHING POSITIVE can happen in this relationship.

Oh, and it goes without saying that the trash talking you to people needs to STOP. Yesterday. You are a kind woman, and a good mother - and you DO NOT DESERVE HIS SHIT. If you think you still could love him and be happy there (realistically, if the relationship breaking bullshit stops FOR GOOD) and you would be proud with your son growing up to be that sort of man with that rolemodel around) then you have a place where you can talk from - but I really feel like with him refusing the divorce, he wants you back more than you really want to be there and keep that in mind when you bring up coming back and what needs to change. If you think that you can't deal with his shit (which he hasn't even told you about all of it yet!) then DTMFA!

Stephanie47
05-31-2012, 04:43 PM
My two cents is to let your husband know he is a cross dresser. At least, if that little secret (actually the big elephant in HIS room) is destroying him, get it out of the way. If cross dressing does not disturb you, and, you indicate you WOULD have been agreeable to some basic boundaries and restrictions, then maybe your marriage is salvageable. I have known many marriages where the spouses are so far apart as expectations the marriage was destined to fail. An addiction to video games and/or porn is not uncommon and a destroyer of marriages because the addiction is ignoring the spouse and kids. No different than consuming all free time on any hobby.

I can understand the necessity of keeping medical benefits, but, at what cost? At some time each of you will have to move on with your lives. If you decide to let him stay in YOUR home, then set the ground rules. Tell him to keep off your clothes, which would have to after you tell him you have heard he is a cross dresser. And, by all means, after you disclose your nuclear weapon potential, tell him to stop 'bad mouthing' you. No matter what the truth may be, a guy 'accused' of cross dressing loses all credibility with anything else he may say.

Miriam-J
05-31-2012, 07:35 PM
I agree entirely with mykhelee and Babeba on this one.

Your pseudo-husband sounds like a first class manipulator who will take advantage of you every chance he gets, and your accommodating response is very similar to what I've heard from many of the habitually abused. Be very, very careful.

Even if the insurance situation doesn't amount to fraud in your state, it's a pretty poor reason to maintain a paper-only marriage. It really gets in the way of you moving on with your life, psychologically and in practice. You need to decide one way or another - you're together or you're not.

Sorry if all this sounds pretty harsh, but I've seen too many people ruined by indecision. Divorce isn't a problem - it's a solution to a problem. Be firm whichever way you go.

Miriam

Violetgray
06-01-2012, 12:41 PM
Now I am perplexed, if you want a divorce why do you care what he wants. It seems to me divorces should not be too hard to get in this day and age. And

if he is stressed "so what". Do what is best for you.
Vieja

I think that it's easy to say things like this when you have no personal stake in the relationship, but I don't think that something like this is EVER that simple after two people have loved each other for years.

That having been said, it does seem like a bit of emotional manipulation for him to say you're stressing him out every time you bring it up.


I'd tell him that you know and then use it to your advantage! Lol. A bit of leverage never hurts in any situation.

Now.. let's consider the implications of that, shall we? How would that not be emotional blackmail? I remember so many stories of my cd sisters having to put up with ex-wives outing them to everyone trying to ruin their lives, or bringing it up in court to get an edge. It makes me mad just thinking about it..

Oh, and listen to everything Reine and Babeba said. I definitely think that telling him and letting him know that you are o.k. with it could help.

Shananigans
06-01-2012, 01:04 PM
Amen, Babeba!!!

Get this visit over with if he MUST stay at your place. Don't forget that you are in the position of power here because you are Allowing him to be at Your place.

Talking smack about you to friends an coworkers? No...there would be no shopping adventures in his future. You do NOT put up with that disrespect from him.

I wouldn't start anything while he was there. I would spend as little time around him as possible. If he tried to talk to me about things, I would listen...but, I would not reward him with my response or emotions.

As he had his bags packed and was headed out the door, I would say, "By the way, I know that you are a CD. I've KNOWN that you are a CD. The only thing that bothers me about that is that you haven't allowed me to fully know who you are. ...And, I would be absolutely delighted if you would stop throwing my name through the mud to people that do not fully know ME and who I am." Then, I would tell him to have a good day and I would close my door.

Let him put that in his pipe and smoke it.

The fact is that he is disrespectful to you. This shoes he has a very low opinion of you...and, perhaps, even women in general. Your acceptance of his CDing isn't going to change that he doesn't respect you. So, lead by example. You know this secret about him...but, you aren't going to disrespect him. Perhaps, he will watch closely and learn a thing or two.

docrobbysherry
06-01-2012, 01:12 PM
Here's my opinion, Perp, and mine alone! MOST of the above advice is nonsense! They want to treat the symptoms and NOT the desease! Your issues have little or nothing to do with CDing. And, we don't know ANYTHING about your SO's side! Violet and Reine seem to grasp your Ocam's Razor position.

Your relationship is in flux and could go in many directions. If u do nothing, I can't see u 2 reconciling. The reason is, u seem to be a pushover for your SO. In a year, things will be VERY DIFFERENT for u! One way or the other.

Sensing your personality, u need help standing up for yourself. That means u need to get into couples counseling IMMEDIATELY! He may not want to go, but your therapist should insist on certain behavior from him and will be your advocate until such time as he/she can get his side of what's happening. I see no other way of u 2 staying together! And, without the impetus from a third party, your hopeless situation could needlessly drag on and on!

Stop wasting time feeling sorry for yourself! Get professional help now! You'll be so happy u did!

Vanessa5
06-01-2012, 03:37 PM
There has been very good advice here. One thing I have to say is this (and this is my opinion)-this relationship with your "husband" is the example for your kids. If this man treats you like this (crap imo) the kids will follow that example in all the relationships they have. If you can't divorce him for you do it for your kids. Therapy may help but he has a lot to answer for. Letting you walk away without a fight seems very lame to me no matter what the excuse.