View Full Version : Busting sterotypes (tongue in cheek)
Anna M
07-01-2012, 09:21 AM
Am I the only trans woman who is not utterly in love with pink and lavender? :heehee: Don't get me wrong, in some ways I am femme to the core, but not in my color preferences.
Also, what is it with trans women and the name "Katherine" (and its variants)? I commented about it to a friend of mine, whose response was that she'd never noticed that until I pointed it out... :D Even her SO has it for a middle name.
Are there other trans stereotypes that make you roll your eyes, or just laugh, either in the "ugh not me" way or the "ain't that the truth!" sort of way? Rather than the kind that make you angry, like some of the ones out there about how we dress or act?
Anna May
Andie Elisabeth
07-01-2012, 09:36 AM
Oh, I hate pink and pink beasts :heehee: I like the smell of lavender but not in parfume though. As in color you mean #E6E6FA (gray-blue-ish) or #B57EDC (purple)? Purple makes me calmer but I'd never wear purple unless it's something small.
On this forum I've see more Elizabeths than Katherines :) In my case it's my mom's fault :heehee:
Michelle.M
07-01-2012, 09:39 AM
Also, what is it with trans women and the name "Katherine" (and its variants)?
Hmm . . . maybe some of the Kathryns here can comment on that, but in my experience I rarely find myself being the only Michelle in the room.
Frances
07-01-2012, 09:41 AM
I know a few Katherines and Catherines, but the pink and lavender fixation, I have witnessed in CDers only.
Babeba
07-01-2012, 09:47 AM
As a gg, I have a slight pink fixation... It is slowly turning into a green fixation, phew!
The name that gets me more than catherines is the type which is ridiculously uncommon and modern, given the age of the woman choosing the name.
Frances
07-01-2012, 09:58 AM
The name that gets me more than catherines is the type which is ridiculously uncommon and modern, given the age of the woman choosing the name.
OMG, that is so true! There are always a bunch of people at my support group who have picked the weirdest exotic names, when they are all French Canadians and in their fifties. Maroussia, Sienna, jingiru, etc. We have to ask them to repeat their names over and over again. Catherine, we get first time.
Maybe I should have picked Francesca! (Frances is not my real name either.)
Michelle.M
07-01-2012, 11:01 AM
. . . the pink and lavender fixation, I have witnessed in CDers only.
Well, I wouldn't go so far a to say that I'm fixated, but I do like pink in reasonable doses.
TerryTerri
07-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Love Pink, guilty as charged. However, to my defense, I have really liked pink for many years before I came to realize I am transgendered and started taking any steps toward a transition. I basically agree on the name thing. I read somewhere a long time ago about the common sense of picking an age appropriate name and spelling. My own name issues are simplified/complicated by having a name that can be male or female. However, if I do change my name to a different name, it will be Donna because simply that is what my Mom would have named me if she had known I really was a girl but simply had a birth defect. And, for my age (52), Donna is a good appropriate name. However, to each their own.
Persephone
07-01-2012, 02:06 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/sandylewiscares/2012-03-04150755.jpg
Pink isn't just a color, it's an Attitude!
I go with Audrey Hepburn:
“I believe in pink. I believe that laughing is the best calorie burner. I believe in kissing, kissing a lot. I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day and I believe in miracles.”
Hugs,
Persephone.
EnglishRose
07-01-2012, 03:29 PM
Fixation? No. However I don't avoid it (and my vest top right now is pink). That said my identity is femme.
STACY B
07-01-2012, 03:45 PM
Heyyyyyy,,, Come Onnnn, I was going to pick the name Pinky ,,,But I think it was taken ? I always loved Lacy ,,But some how I ended up Stacy ,, Pinks alrite ,, Orange is in this year ,, An purple ,,, Ilike to stick to dark colors ,,Its a fat thing ,,LOL,,,
Princess Jen
07-01-2012, 04:07 PM
I like pink! Well, not all the time but a lot of the time. :c9:
pamela_a
07-01-2012, 05:11 PM
Pink? Obviously you're falling prey to the male color.
" An article in the trade publication Earnshaw's Infants' Department in June 1918 said: "The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl."[18] From then until the 1940s, pink was considered appropriate for boys because being related to red it was the more masculine and decided color, while blue was considered appropriate for girls because it was the more delicate and dainty color, or related to the Virgin Mary.[19][20][21] Since the 1940s, the societal norm was inverted; pink became considered appropriate for girls and blue appropriate for boys, a practice that has continued into the 21st century.[22]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink
Yes, all of those older ladies you thought were "a little off" when identifying a baby as a boy when wrapped in pink or a girl when the baby was in blue were fine. Society changed it's mind for some odd reason.
As for names. I haven't noticed a significant number of Katherines/Catherines but what does get me are all of the ones who have a fascination with "stripper" names.
Kathryn Martin
07-01-2012, 05:35 PM
That is why older ladies have their hair in blue hues. I am slowly reaching that age:D
But Pink, orange and turquoise really works for me and my name is Kathryn. I guess I am just another stereotype:straightface:. When I was born Kathryn the name ranked number 32 and 108,000 Kathryn's were born in the US that year. Well, I was born in Germany, let me check...... Kathryn was ranked number 109. Uhhmmm, I was named after my grandmother whom I loved.
What is "femme"? Is it code for .......what?
i prefer colors like blue, purple, teal. i pass on most of the pink stuff, but i keep a few odd ones in my wardrobe. 'can't comment on the "Catherine-and-its-variants" question though.
EnglishRose
07-01-2012, 07:27 PM
What is "femme"? Is it code for .......what?
In my case, it's a femme lesbian identity as opposed to butch. That way of framing it is usually self-explanatory.
KellyJameson
07-01-2012, 09:33 PM
I hate pink and lavender on myself and it is rare that I wear any other color than black, should have been a mortician.
I'm not sure about sterotypes because those who I know and have known were and are all so very different from each other.
There is I suppose a heightened intensity but it is still different from one to another and difficult to describe.
I suspect the sterotypes come more from those who want to be in the limelight but many, possibly most want to be invisible but in a good way.
Sorry to say that I rather like certain shades of pink and I came "that close" to naming my daughter Katherine.
_Kira_
07-01-2012, 11:59 PM
Am I the only trans woman who is not utterly in love with pink and lavender?
Anna May
I like lavender too (because It's my color :)))).
but anyways main colors in clothes has to be in trend colors :)
Fashion and style makes rules.
heh(((
noeleena
07-02-2012, 04:16 AM
Hi,
Pink was allways my fav colour from very young & i like to compliment that with other colours as you see in my pic head wear as seen. autum colours go well with many of my clothes,
Of cause i do like multy coloured clothes as im not governed by just say two or three colours & i do have some rather pretty colours to wear,
As to names mine becomes interesting very few have the same as mine i have found about about severn other women that are close to mine a derivitive of no-el.= French. noel'e' = German .
...noeleen'a'...
MC-lite
07-02-2012, 07:56 AM
Well I was going to go with the name "Annoyance", but my lawyer said that I might get a hard time with the name change.
So I chose Michaela Joy.
And I like pink and lavender. In the spring, I have my nails done in lavender. It's a nice spring color. :)
Pet peeves? When a TS doesn't dress her age. If you're over 30 and you don't have the body for it, don't wear a skimpy dress that makes the GGirls laugh at you. I feel like saying to them "What were you thinking when you decided to wear that???"
Maybe thinking wasn't the right word.:eek:
Sara Jessica
07-02-2012, 08:17 AM
Maybe it's the people I associate with but I only personally know one Katherine (Kate) and have yet to encounter a friend with a thing for pink or lavender.
And personally, I'm not really fixated on any particular color but I do go through phases that are mostly seasonal. I am coming off of a blue phase that went back to last fall and with summer upon us, I may just break out a little pink.
Jorja
07-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Well first, let me say it is my mother's fault I spell my name Jorja instead of Georgia. Had I been born a girl my name would have been Georgia. I found out from my grandmother and my father she did not like the spelling Georgia. My mother scoured the name books back in the early 50s and found the spelling Jorja. So, when the day finally came for me to legally change my name, I thought of mom and Jorja it is. Oh BTW, I had the name years before Jorja Fox was even thought of.
I know several Katherine/Catherines. It must have been a very popular name in the Midwest.
Second, pink and laverander are ok just not in big doses.
Cheryl T
07-04-2012, 08:29 AM
Guess I'm safe then....I haven't seen any other Cheryl's here ....
And leave my pink and purples alone...I loved them long before I knew who I was....
Rianna Humble
07-04-2012, 11:27 AM
It is interesting that since I am being true to myself, my perception of colours has undergione a fundamental shift and, yes, I do like pink - mainly on my nails but also on objects that I own. Lavender is not bad as a typeface colour, but I do not have any lavender clothes.
I hadn't noticed such a prevalence of Katherines, and do not have that in my name. I was mildly worried that Rianna might not be age-appropriate but everyone i know in the "real world" agrees that it suits me - especially as I have not mangled the spelling in the way a certain singer has.
The best comment I heard about transition and clothing came from my beautician (19 going on 91) who said that it will be like going through my adolescence a second time and that in a few years I will look back on some items of clothing and think
did I really wear that :eek:
i prefer colors like blue
Would that be SKY blue to go with the meaning of your name in French?
ColleenA
07-04-2012, 05:56 PM
Are there other trans stereotypes that make you roll your eyes, or just laugh, either in the "ugh not me" way or the "ain't that the truth!" sort of way? Rather than the kind that make you angry, like some of the ones out there about how we dress or act?
Anna May
One thing that seems to be something of a stereotype/cliche which I would be interested in seeing some comments on is how often (and why) MtF's seem to be lesbians, especially those who are ardently man-hating. My BFF had a sad history of persecution and sexual assault by a wide range of men during her upbringing and consequently wants little to do with men, even though she now gets hit on regularly.
Traci Elizabeth
07-05-2012, 08:50 AM
I look best in blacks, browns, and purples. I do own pink but don't wear that color often.
Transsexuals tend to be fixated on their "transition" at the expense of everything else. It's the "all about me" syndrome.
Jorja
07-05-2012, 09:01 AM
I look best in blacks, browns, and purples. I do own pink but don't wear that color often.
Transsexuals tend to be fixated on their "transition" at the expense of everything else. It's the "all about me" syndrome.
I am only wearing BLACK until they invent something darker!
Frances
07-05-2012, 09:36 AM
Transsexuals tend to be fixated on their "transition" at the expense of everything else. It's the "all about me" syndrome.
Are you mentioning another stereotype here?
EnglishRose
07-05-2012, 10:47 AM
One thing that seems to be something of a stereotype/cliche which I would be interested in seeing some comments on is how often (and why) MtF's seem to be lesbians
I think it's not a good thing that mine and many others (seemingly a third of trans women upwards) have a sexuality that is being described as a stereotype or cliche.
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