Is Suzy weird for doing this?

[suzy1]

I have found a lesbian website and have been reading all the posts over the last two weeks.
The thing is, I feel perfectly at home there. I am not going to try to join the site as that would be wrong and dishonest. I would never do that.

It’s just nice to read the posts. I really feel like I belong there.

I told you I was weird. [Or am I?]

[Lainie]

I know a divorcee who says she went to an organization meeting suggested by her therapist, discovered that all the members were lesbians, felt right at home, and only then realized she was a lesbian.

But I agree that the other members might not think you fit the profile.

[Sophia Claire]

It's not weird, I do the same thing.

[StarrOfDelite]

I don't think you're weird at all. If you are reading the posts with an attempt to understand the motivation and thinking of other human beings, who are differently oriented than you, where is the possible harm?

Is it specifically a lesbians-only website? If it doesn't advertise itself as such, I think that going onto the forum with your true colors flying is a perfectly legitimate action on your part. If you are hissed, booed and ridiculed then what have you lost? You can still read the posts, and can treat the rejection as a learning experience.

[AKKaren]

:oYup....me too...I have always have identified as lesbian....

[Marie-Elise]

Not weird at all, IMHO. I, to have done this and sometimes fantasize about being lesbian.

[bridget thronton]

Sounds like you are doing the right thing from your perspective

[docrobbysherry]

Don't know about weird, but I would feel like a spy there, Suzy! Sort of like checking out the Transmen section here.

Of course, when I dared to make a comment, they made me feel pretty weird immediately!

Have u made comments on the Les. site?

[Anne2345]

For shame, Suzy!!! You leave those poor lesbians alone! :eek: They have it hard enough without having to worry that weird crossdressers are checking out their forum and lurking in the background! :heehee:

Nah, Suzy, you're not weird! You're beautiful! And a forum, any forum at all, would be blessed to receive attention from you, girlfriend! :daydreaming: I wonder, though, whether you can join as a friend, kind of like GGs and others can here? You each have much to offer the other . . . . :)

[Beverley Sims]

Sounds like curiosity and broadening of the mind.
There are a lot of STRANGE forums out there including this one for those un initiated with them.
Just because they are out of your normal comfort zone does not mean you should not go there.
Even join them and interact with those there.
Choose an anonymous name and dont link any comments to any where else.
Call it trolling or whatever you like but you may illicit comments from similar like minded people.
A bit like wandering down the street in a bathing suit, could be an adventure.
Just remember do not give any thing away that might link you to somewhere else.:)
I knew some lesbians once that helped me dress and go out.
We all had a good time together and I did not make any advances to them.
Dey were de rules.

[kimdl93]

Not all that weird. I recall Carmen Paglia commenting on male attraction to lesbian porn by suggesting that at least for some male observers, the desire was to imagine sexual encounter from the perspective of a woman. Perhaps that curiosity is particularly strong among MtF CDrs. I admit that my preference is to participate and experience sex from a female perspective. Fortunately, my wife is willing to accomodate my weirdness.

[suzy1]

Don't know about weird, but I would feel like a spy there, Suzy! Sort of like checking out the Transmen section here.

Of course, when I dared to make a comment, they made me feel pretty weird immediately!

Have u made comments on the Les. site?

You have to join to make comments and as I said I will not be joining.
And no, I do not feel like a spy, more an admirer.

[Barbara Ella]

I can definitely say Suzy is not weird for doing this..........but.........lol

I can see the attraction, and given our makeup, it would actually seem logical for many for the male portion to maintain an attraction for the femme

Barbara

[Tracii G]

I love the transmen site and do read it from time to time.Rarely post there since getting slapped a few times.
I think those guys are great and miss Ze something awful.
Ze is about the nicest guy ever.I always loved chatting with him.

[sterling12]

I have some good news for you, (maybe?) But first, an observation, Right now your A "Lurker" on that site and they probably wonder about you in the same way that we wonder about our Lurkers around here!

But anyway, to The Good News. Bobbi Jo is a good friend who transitioned a couple of years back. We were shootin' The Bull, conversing, chewin' The Rag, or indulging in polite ladylike conversation, whichever way everyone wants to view it. Bobbijo claimed that previously she was "tolerated" by The Lesbian Community in her area, BUT as soon as she did her SRS, she is constantly being Hit ON by all those Lesbians who used to ignore her. Apparently, a "plumbing change" seemed to make A World of difference to them! BobbiJo claims no mental or emotional changes from The Surgery, but somehow it seemed to make all The Difference in The World to these Women.

My Point? If your transgendered and transsexual, feel your sexuality is bent toward being a Lesbian; there appears to be a lot of "Opportunities" after surgery! If true, what I was told; for a lot of Women it must also be a Visual Thing, just like most guys. I can't explain it any other way.

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Natalie D]

Why not join and at the same time make it clear who you are. My guess is that you'll be made welcome.

[Annette Todd]

I have always felt I was a lesbian in a man's body.

[Kaz]

For shame, Suzy!!! You leave those poor lesbians alone! :eek: They have it hard enough without having to worry that weird crossdressers are checking out their forum and lurking in the background! :heehee:

Nah, Suzy, you're not weird! You're beautiful! And a forum, any forum at all, would be blessed to receive attention from you, girlfriend! :daydreaming: I wonder, though, whether you can join as a friend, kind of like GGs and others can here? You each have much to offer the other . . . . :)

Anne, now as usual you have brought me up short and thoughtful... I have posted a lot about the relevance of us being associated with the LBG community... you just opened my eyes a little more!

Suze... yeah I am in there with you... we can learn so much about ourselves from understanding others... :)

[Kaz]

I love the transmen site and do read it from time to time.Rarely post there since getting slapped a few times.
I think those guys are great and miss Ze something awful.
Ze is about the nicest guy ever.I always loved chatting with him.

Ze was (and probably still is) amazing... miss him too...

[BLUE ORCHID]

[QUOTE=Anne2345;2922292]For shame, Suzy!!! You leave those poor lesbians alone! :eek: They have it hard enough without having to worry that weird crossdressers are checking out their forum and lurking in the background! :heehee:

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Roling on the floor laughing my a$$ off.

[Jorja]

Suzy is not wierd, strange or odd, that is a terrible rumor, started by those who fail to understand, appreciate, or comprehend the unique and interesting aspects and contradictions of her personality and character.

[Cynthia Anne]

Suzy wierd? NOPE! Wierd would be not having Suzy around! Hugs!

[Julogden]

Back when I used to go out a lot, my main place to go was a nearby lesbian bar, that's where I was the most comfortable, but I was never trying to fool anyone about who I was. I was a regular there for many years, at least once a week and often more than that. I made a few wonderful friends there and had a ton of fun. :)

If the site you're talking about welcomes trans women, then I don't see why you couldn't sign up, but be honest about who you are.

Carol

[Jilmac]

I don't think it's wierd at all, Suzy. I have always felt comfortable with females, whether lesbian or straight. And I have commented to others, that If I had the surgery and became a full time female, my sexual attraction would be another woman.

[Marleena]

No...Suzy Is Suzy for doing this.:)

[noeleena]

Hi,

Have you had any expriance with these women in as much , talk with understanding where they are comeing from & why.

Is this about being accepted in to thier world, it may feel right & all just remember those hard liners dont like men for a reason & trans or dressers are no different in many case's .

Im intersexed as you know & i was told i wont be accepted as a woman because im different there is a maleness about me yet even though im born female/ male at birth, im an outcast, i met with these women for over 2 years * i had Jos wife, Kaylyn our daughter & Kaylyns daughter Dejarn , at a evening supper, they were accepted i was not .& they made it very plain

I have met up with over 160 other women & because i was not known by any more than 4 it did not matter at that get to gether, had they known me it may very well have been very different,

Any way thats my exprance of those we are talking about.

Yet i have other women friends who accept me with out ? & they know Jos ,Dejarn & i & we have stayed with them many times, so there is a difference,

Apart from any of those we are talking about most of my friends are just normal women. & i wont leave out some lovely men.

...noeleena...

[Davena Doll]

CDs are probably to girly for that site. The lesbeans I know dress and act like biker thugs. I have not met a biker CDer,Just sayin.

[Cheryl T]

Not a bit...I always have told my spouse that if I ever transitioned that I would be a lesbian...I just love women.

[suzy1]

Noeleena and Davina, What you are saying is no more than prejudistic isn’t it? Something that I would have thought would not raise its ugly head among members here.

I have known two lesbians personally and both were lovely feminine girls.
Also the members on the site I visited are just as nice.

And yes noeleena, they do like men just like we do.

[Mathilda]

Not weird at all in my opinion.

Looking at a lesbian forum as a male crossdresser is as ethically benign as a meat-eater looking at a vegetable display.

[Anita_2]

I think there is no chance to any of that girls accept you as a girlfriend but as a conversation partner may work. If I ever be GG I would be a lesbian I just love women. So I had chance to talk with two lesbian in real world (not as CD) and I have seen they do not like CD they only tolerate it as many others. I am more impressed with tights and stockings than other in CD, but I like and other things, that girls are not so interesed in it how I have seen. My opinion is that we have more chance with bisexual girls on forums for bisex girls (if there is any) than with lesbian. I have been with a two bisexual girls at once (not as CD) and that can work with idea of CD MTF (they accepted stockings on me) they are more open to it (but only one experience don't make rules). I replay I would like to be a CD with lesbian I just love women. No way be happy and try.:thumbsup:

[Lorileah]

:brokenheart:

I think those guys are great and miss Ze something awful.
Ze is about the nicest guy ever.I always loved chatting with him.

I miss Ze too. Last I talked to him though things were going better and had found a SO. (totally off topic sorry) also will add the Transmen always seem nice to me.

So anyways, Suzy, you are doing the right thing. So many here claim to be lesbians in men's bodies but I am fairly sure if you said that in a lesbian forum, you would not walk out upright. Lesbians don't really have that sense of humor considering they really ARE lesbian and hey don't like men who play at it. Lurking doesn't hurt anyone. In real life, I have many lesbian acquaintances who take Lori under their wing publicly, how ever if I ever tried to slip into their circle in any other fashion it would be different.

[KellyJameson]

Where I do not "get" the thinking of most men and women I have found that a lesbian who is not a femme most closely resonates with my own feeling/thinking/experiencing of the world along with men who call themselves male lesbians

I think it is because in both instances they have a balance between the mind body dichotomy so represent a single whole within one body where most people are one half of a psychological whole so seek their other psychological half in another to create a whole.

You are not weird and it makes perfect sense that some women who are also lesbian you would feel comfortable with because of your own feminine/masculine balance.

If I ever decide on a life partner she would have to be lesbian. Not because she is lesbian (sexual interest) but I have never met a women who I could understand that was not. They are more likely to think and feel as I do so I am able to bond with them naturally instead of trying to force myself to love someone I'm unable making
the relationship unreal and pretend.

Evolution, genetics and hormones have a profound impact and influence on what we are attracted to at the deepest level but we deceive ourselves thinking it is free
choice so create havoc by going against the design of who we are.

[Kaz]

:brokenheart:

I miss Ze too. Last I talked to him though things were going better and had found a SO. (totally off topic sorry) also will add the Transmen always seem nice to me.

So anyways, Suzy, you are doing the right thing. So many here claim to be lesbians in men's bodies but I am fairly sure if you said that in a lesbian forum, you would not walk out upright. Lesbians don't really have that sense of humor considering they really ARE lesbian and hey don't like men who play at it. Lurking doesn't hurt anyone. In real life, I have many lesbian acquaintances who take Lori under their wing publicly, how ever if I ever tried to slip into their circle in any other fashion it would be different.

Off topic too... but not really a PM... Thanks for that update Lori! Loved Ze to bits!

On topic... What I love about the internet is that we can use it is as a great learning platform and gain a greater understanding of people and other 'things'... I have always had great empathy with the transmen...

And as for lesbians... maybe I should write a book! To the two stereotypical responses I saw... get real... lesbianism is about 'lesbos' - this is about love...?

[rhonda]

Well Suzy I think you would fit in their real good

[sometimes_miss]

I read Seventeen, Teen Vogue, and American Cheerleader magazine, as well as regularly browse their respective websites and others which are appropriate for teen age girls. And feel right at home doing so. I never gave it a single thought, though I would never directly contact any of the girls there, I would feel that's crossing the line. I have, however, occasionally answered 'what is he thinking' type questions on girls forums many years ago, but the girls then felt their space was invaded, so I no longer do so; it was back when I didn't know that the vast majority of women's conversations aren't really looking for answers to their questions, but simply for the sake of conversation to no particular end point, and for support of their own point of view.

[reb.femme]

I have found a lesbian website and have been reading all the posts over the last two weeks.
The thing is, I feel perfectly at home there. I am not going to try to join the site as that would be wrong and dishonest. I would never do that.

It’s just nice to read the posts. I really feel like I belong there.

I told you I was weird. [Or am I?]

Hi Suzy,

I've not read many of the replies here so if I repeat anyone, apologies.
Absolutely nothing wrong with acquiring an alternative view point on life.
We all grow through knowledge, whether it affects our lives directly or not.

So I vote not weird. :battingeyelashes:

Rebecca x