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ronni
11-20-2005, 11:29 AM
When my wife began noticing that I paint my toenails and shave my legs and under my arms, and wear pink socks, she said she thinks I'm turning into a metrosexual. I just let her think that, because it's a lot easier than trying to explain that I'm turning into a girl!

What's a metrosexual, anyway?

TGMarla
11-20-2005, 11:33 AM
It's this whole silly Euro trend, made popular by that soccer player David Beckham, who seemingly was able to display many feminine traits while still maintaining his masculinity. Okay, maybe not so silly, but certainly trendy.

Ellaine
11-20-2005, 12:07 PM
Hi Ronni :)

According to Wordspy:
http://www.wordspy.com/words/metrosexual.asp

A Metrosexual is......

metrosexual (met.roh.SEK.shoo.ul) n. An urban male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.
—metrosexuality n.


Example Citations:


At dinner the other night, my date listed the calorie count of the main entrees, raising an eyebrow at my chicken Alfredo selection after he had ordered a salad. I saw him check his reflection in the silver water pitcher three times. During dessert, he looked deeply into my eyes and told me he thought what we have together is very special. It was our third date.

It was then that I realized why my dating life has been as mysterious as the Bermuda Triangle since I arrived in Washington. This city, unlike any other place I've lived, is a haven for the metrosexual. A metrosexual, in case you didn't catch any of several newspaper articles about this developing phenomenon (or the recent "South Park" episode on Comedy Central), is a straight man who styles his hair using three different products (and actually calls them "products"), loves clothes and the very act of shopping for them, and describes himself as sensitive and romantic. In other words, he is a man who seems stereotypically gay except when it comes to sexual orientation.
—Alexa Hackbarth, "Vanity, Thy Name Is Metrosexual," The Washington Post, November 17, 2003



The typical metrosexual is a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis — because that's where all the best shops, clubs, gyms and hairdressers are. He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere.
—Mark Simpson, "Meet the metrosexual," Salon.com, July 22, 2002


Notes:
A metrosexual is a clotheshorse wrapped around a dandy fused with a narcissist. Like soccer star David Beckham, who has been known to paint his fingernails, the metrosexual is not afraid to embrace his feminine side. Why "metrosexual"? The metro- (city) prefix indicates this man's purely urban lifestyle, while the -sexual suffix comes from "homosexual," meaning that this man, although he is usually straight, embodies the heightened aesthetic sense often associated with certain types of gay men.

Mark Simpson invented this term in 1994 (see the earliest citation, below), and it drifted slowly from one media source to another throughout the rest of 1990s and early 2000s. Then Simpson wrote another article about metrosexuals in the online magazine Salon.com on July 22, 2002, and the term took off. Since then it has been picked up by thousands of media outlets, has made numerous TV appearances, has spawned at least a couple of books, and has been dropped in untold numbers of cocktail party conversations. There is no escaping the metrosexual.

The second example citation gives Simpson's succinct description of the metrosexual type from his Salon.com article.


Earliest Citation:


The promotion of metrosexuality was left to the men's style press, magazines such as The Face, GQ, Esquire, Arena and FHM, the new media which took off in the Eighties and is still growing (GQ gains 10,000 new readers every month). They filled their magazines with images of narcissistic young men sporting fashionable clothes and accessories. And they persuaded other young men to study them with a mixture of envy and desire.

Some people said unkind things. American GQ, for example, was popularly dubbed ''Gay Quarterly''. Little wonder that all these magazines — with the possible exception of The Face — address their metrosexual readership as if none of them were homosexual or even bisexual.
—Mark Simpson, "Here come the mirror men," The Independent, November 15, 1994
~~~~~~~~~~~End~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Me? Well since I don't really come up to scratch ;) as a man.... I'm just a boring old tranny :cool:
Ellaine

Kimberly
11-20-2005, 12:10 PM
It's this whole silly Euro trend, ...
Okay, I'm mildly offended here... Are the European's ALL to blame for this "silly trend?"

:p

Marlena Dahlstrom
11-20-2005, 12:30 PM
A metrosexual is a straight guy who's a bit of dandy. In other words a guy who likes both football and getting facials.

More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosexual

Lauren_T
11-20-2005, 12:58 PM
The whole metrosexual phenom, for my money, is a blessing for us. Anything that encourages the GM pop to accept using cosmetics, wearing more colorful, luxurious garb, and otherwise breaking from traditional notions of masculinity can only help stealthily promote acceptance of all people who violate traditional gender rôles... meaning, basically - us! :thumbsup:

I don't give a tinker's damn whether it's trendy; as long as it means we get fewer dirty or puzzled looks when we do nonmasculine things, it's all to the good.

Jamie001
11-20-2005, 03:20 PM
It is not a silly trend at all! It is putting men and makeup together and is the first step in creating more acceptance for crossdressers.


Even Shaquille Oneal is painting his toenails and Nick Nolte also admitted to doing this in a recent interview.



Okay, I'm mildly offended here... Are the European's ALL to blame for this "silly trend?"

:p

Jamie001
11-20-2005, 03:21 PM
Amen Lauren! :-)



The whole metrosexual phenom, for my money, is a blessing for us. Anything that encourages the GM pop to accept using cosmetics, wearing more colorful, luxurious garb, and otherwise breaking from traditional notions of masculinity can only help stealthily promote acceptance of all people who violate traditional gender rôles... meaning, basically - us! :thumbsup:

I don't give a tinker's damn whether it's trendy; as long as it means we get fewer dirty or puzzled looks when we do nonmasculine things, it's all to the good.

Deanna2
11-20-2005, 04:38 PM
I think there are two issues here.

First, it is a trend that that got started like so many other trends, but this time it is one that the cosmetic companies can really cash in on by catching half of the population that previously haven't used cosmetic products, ie guys. Just think of all the lotions and sprays and whatever that are now being available for guys. Because it's being advertised as being 'in' we can now all use (for example) a cleansing creme on our faces before going to bed. When our SO's say 'what are doing?' we can say 'being trendy!'. I'd say that this is one up for the good guys and the TG's.

Secondly, whilst the name is reasonably new, being a metro is not new. Back in the 19th century they had young men who tarted themsleves up. The name then was 'dandy' or 'fop'. Both those names are now terms of derision.

sandra_lag
11-20-2005, 05:10 PM
Metrosexual is what I say I am when someone ask me if I shave my arms, or I arrange my eyebrow...
;)

Kisses
Sandra

crossing_over
11-20-2005, 05:55 PM
this is how my friend explained it to me when she called me one .....


it's a straight gay guy ........ has all the traits of a gay guy but likes women.

Jamie001
11-20-2005, 06:44 PM
That is not true. Gay guys that I work with dress very masculine in the best men's suits and would not be caught dead in anything that is even remotely feminine.


this is how my friend explained it to me when she called me one .....


it's a straight gay guy ........ has all the traits of a gay guy but likes women.

MaxineF
11-20-2005, 07:26 PM
I can't speak for the rest of the world but here in Australia, the "metrosexual" seems to be dying off.

Yet another fad that has come and gone really.

Maxine

gwendelyn
11-21-2005, 10:44 AM
Ronni,
I want you to know that I'm happy you are being yourself.
Much love.

TVStevie
11-21-2005, 06:54 PM
A metrosexual is a straight guy who's a bit of dandy. In other words a guy who likes both football and getting facials.

Surely that would make him at least bisexual. :p

Emma Chase
11-21-2005, 09:01 PM
hey girls

I to am upset at the remsarl about Europeans starting a silly trend. I might live in North America but still have a strong UK connection.

The market for men'sproducts in worth millions to the manufactures of these new male products.

This site will give you an idea of what is actually available for men, from cover up to mascara!

www.4voo.com

Emma

emmicd
11-22-2005, 12:01 AM
Ronni,

I couldn't stop laughing after reading your comment about rather explaining to your wife that you're a metrosexual.

You have a funny way of putting things.

It's ok to be a metrosexual and a crossdresser.

Just take it in stride!

Take good care of yourself!

emmi

crossing_over
11-22-2005, 03:13 AM
That is not true. Gay guys that I work with dress very masculine in the best men's suits and would not be caught dead in anything that is even remotely feminine.


i meant the stereotypical gay guy... like in queer eye for the straight guy


sorry the word 'stereotypical' makes a big difference lol

Helana
11-22-2005, 06:08 AM
It is sad to see the derision in Ellaine's citations about metrosexuals. Apparently any man who cares about his looks is immediately labelled narcisstic and of course is compared with homosexuals.

I live in Asia and here it is quite common for men to get facials and manicures and even eyebrow shaping. Only in our homophobic Western culture are such men ridiculed for taking care of themselves.:rolleyes:

Marlena Dahlstrom
11-22-2005, 02:49 PM
Well Ellaine citations may have been derisive, but out in the real world people are getting used to the idea -- at least in major urban areas that I'm familiar with.

Like any fad, there comes a point where people poke fun of it. In fact the SF Chronicle just had a tongue-in-cheek article on how metrosexuals are passe, and the new, new thing is the ubersexual (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ubersexual).

But there's definitely an undercurrent of unease reflected by the humor -- probably particularly in the States, since it goes against a lot mythology of the rugged individualist. OTOH, I suspect in coming years, it won't be that big a deal -- some guys will be well-groomed and some won't, just as some GGs like to look fashionable and others just wear sweats all the time.

As Emma said, the cosmetics companies are just drooling to expand their market share -- lots more gulliable customers to sell stuff too. Interestingly, according to the Cosmetics Cop (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1877988308/102-3279323-4056930?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance), a lot of the men's skincare products are identical to women's -- except for the masculine packaging and lower price tag. She actually advises women to consider buying them instead. (BTW, the book is a really excellent Consumer's Guide approach to skincare and cosmetics products -- there's far too many overhyped and over-priced products -- and it's probably available at your local library.)

Bridget
11-22-2005, 09:35 PM
As stated before, it's namely a late trend among males who spend inordinate money and time on being clean cut and good looking, including shaving off grody body hair, and spending time using products to maintain health and beauty.

Personally, when I manifest feminine traits en drab, it's called emo. :p

Marlena Dahlstrom
11-22-2005, 10:46 PM
mostly Europeans or New Yorkers (there ain't a dimes worth of difference).

Oh come on now, New Yawkers are far ruder than the French. ;)

ronni
12-05-2005, 09:00 PM
I never expected such a reaction!
Ellaine, you are the authority here (arguably).
Emmi, you're a doll.
The rest of you, thank you for your courteous explanations.
I'm just a regular gurl.

What's a gurl?

sherri
12-05-2005, 09:32 PM
I can't speak for the rest of the world but here in Australia, the "metrosexual" seems to be dying off.

Yet another fad that has come and gone really.

Maxine

I've read that here and there too, but even if that's true, I think there is going to be a redisual effect - which is great, I think. Pick up any men's fashion mag like GQ or whatever and you'll see tons of evidence that fashion-concious men are stocking up on beauty products and spending more time in the bathroom.

And I don't think it's silly at all.

Helana
12-06-2005, 02:21 AM
I've read that here and there too, but even if that's true, I think there is going to be a redisual effect - which is great, I think. Pick up any men's fashion mag like GQ or whatever and you'll see tons of evidence that fashion-concious men are stocking up on beauty products and spending more time in the bathroom.

And I don't think it's silly at all.

If all men started spending more time in the bathroom then think of the enormous queues. It is one of the advantages of the male toilet, nobody hangs about there...unless you are gay.:D

Jillian310
12-06-2005, 09:13 PM
When a 67 year old male former aggressive no b**l s**t executive begins to wear sexy panties, shaves off his beard of 30+ years, shaves his pubes. legs, etc, grows his hair, has his ears pierced and wears custom made diamond studs, and has his hair styled by a gay guy at the salon, a little cover explanation is needed. Enter Metrosexual! That is how I justify to my wife and family the dramitic ahange in my appearance! If they only knew what I wear in the company of others, or when I am removed from them! Metrosexual is working very nicely as the 'cover' story for my transition, at least the obvious outward appearances. Now, approaching 69, I am the resident Metrosexual!!!!!! (One that loves lingerie, skirts, bras, dresses, etc. etc. These other things will be our little secret!) :D :D :D

sherri
12-06-2005, 09:43 PM
If all men started spending more time in the bathroom then think of the enormous queues. It is one of the advantages of the male toilet, nobody hangs about there...unless you are gay.:D
So that's why I'm getting the looks in the men's room as I touch up my lipstick and hair and adjust my stockings! I'm slowing down the queue.

Let's see, in my bathroom at home here are some things that weren't there two years ago:

3-step hair conditioning
Lady Gilette razor
fishnet scrub thingy
bath sponge
body wash
glycerine bars
skin cleanser
pore cleanser
face moisturizer
aroma therapy hand cleaner
aroma therapy bar soap
aroma therapy hand lotion
aroma therapy pillow spray
body lotion
teeth whitener
organic mouth wash
6 brands of designer colognes
2 Pier 1 candles
makeup mirror
salon-grade comb and scissors
expensive tweezers
nose hair trimmer
cotton swabs
nail buffing cube and cuticle sticks
egyptian cotton towels

And those are just the things I don't mind other people seeing.

sherri
12-06-2005, 09:48 PM
nobody hangs about there...unless you are gay.:D

And how odd is that behavior?!? Hanging out in the bathroom for sex. Gives me the creeps. Like I'm going to do it right there?

Imagine if all restrooms were unisex, hetero men hanging out in them to hook up with women. Giving them "the look". Ewww. Why do gays think that's acceptable behavior?