Army Duty!!!

[tonixd]

So, girls.... just so you all know, I'm in the Army National Guard :battingeyelashes:

I have been put on orders for deployment to Afghanistan :doh:

So, two questions:
1. Who else among serves, or has served, in the military?
2. Any suggestions for fem fun while deployed?

I already have a collection of panties and my clear nail hardener which I can get away with :heehee:

And I will certainly accept care packages :hugs:

[Debglam]

1. LOTS(!!!!!) of us! In fact, do a search for Afghanistan and there were a couple of sisters deployed over there that posted about it.
2. Never had enough privacy while deployed to do much of anything. :sad:

Be safe!

Debby

[stacycoral]

Toni, girl i don't know being deployed like your going to be if it will be possible, also, your in a country i would be very careful, if is your first time out of the us, the world is all together different for home, when i was active during state side i always had a place to dress, but not deployed. Thank You for serviing!!!! be safe girl, hugs.

[Tracii G]

Don't think about doing it in a war zone.
1. You won't have the time.
2. The Army frowns on that.
3. That part of the world CDing can get you killed.
Best to put it up and leave all that stuff at home.
Keep your powder dry soldier.

[sterling12]

Yes!!!! Wait for your R & R, and then head to Bangkok. I think you'll find more than a few "Kindred Sisters" around that town.

To be frank, I think you'll be preoccupied with staying alive. A lot of us served in The Past. I can tell you that I didn't even think about being Joanie while "In Country." I don't think you'll have that problem either, unless you have a lot more time available.

In fact, I don't think I'd even think about putting The Panties, or Nail hardener in my Duffel Bag. Unless things have drastically changed, somewhere In Transit, they will want to do an inspection. Your going to an Islamic Country, and they will want to make sure your not carrying any "contraband" that Radical Muslims might find offensive. Long ago, while enroute to R.V.N., I remember a night when we got pulled into a large auditorium and they handed us a list of items that we should remove from our Gear, and place in a large cardboard box. Then, they were going to inspect all of our Issue and Civvies. INCLUDED in the first two things listed were Female Undergarments! Right after, Drugs! Failure to comply, was going to get you time in The Stockade, an Article 15, and other unpleasant consequences. (Like getting to "Walk Point," on a permanent basis as part of A Rifle Squad.)

As I said, I'd concentrate on your Year of Duty, and getting yourself back home. You'll think about it a lot, and Toni will play a big part in your Sex Fantasies. But, it's for The Year, and then you go home. Have some fun on R & R, use that as incentive to keep plugging away until you rotate out of there! Good Luck!

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Tracii G]

They will go thru your bag expect it.
365 and a wake up then do your thing here in the states.

[AllieSF]

No recommendations other than to try to be as safe as possible and thanks for protecting me and mine. Godspeed.

[lauriep]

I was in Iraq 4 yrs ago as a senior NCO and retired 2 yrs ago. I can tell you that if you value your military career, and your diginity, forget about trying anything while deployed. Murphy is always gunning for you, and things happen when you are not expecting them. Even when you get warned of an inspection, people still get caught with contraband. Don't do it. You will have enough to worry about. BELIEVE ME!

Keep your but down, and don't drink the water. Unless it comes from a bottle.

[Beverley Sims]

To answer question two.
Do not do anything like that whilst overseas.
It is not wise.

[StaceyJane]

I spent one year in Iraq. No chance to dress but it is a little easier because the women are wearing the same clothes as you so you don't see any great outfits that make you jealous.

[Teri Ray]

Best advice is to keep yourself focused on your job. Come home safe and enjoy a GNO. Thanks for your service.

[kimdl93]

Thank you for your service. I was Regular Army...a long time ago and no place like Afghanistan. Don't worry about fem fun ther...Just take care of yourself and come home safe and sound.

[Stephanie47]

As a combat veteran with a Purple Heart with Oak Leaf Cluster, the last person I want in my squad is anyone preoccupied with anything that gets in the way of getting home safe. If you're worried about your pink panty showing, then you're a liability to your unit. On the battlefield it's not just the enemy who will get you killed. Keep your girlie stuff at home!

[ReluctantDebutant]

As a National Guardman who served in Afganistan I just want to say good luck and stay safe.

As to you question 2. Don't. Don't even worry about thinking about it. Leave the panties behind. Don't log on to this or any other XDer websites. "Fem Fun" and deployment don't mix.

I am curious as to why you thought it was possible. New army regs? An openminded CO?

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Toni, Going where you are going that would be the last thing on my mind.

Sounds like you want to be a Corpral Klingger.

[heatherdress]

God bless you for serving our country. I hope you perform your duties well and return safely.

That said - get your head out of your butt. You are deploying to a very dangerous place. Take that seriously and prepare yourself the best you can. Your life, and your buddies lives depend on your utmost focus, dedication and teamwork. You have the rest of your life to wear panties and fingernail polish. As harsh as the warnings and advise everyone is giving you, please take them to heart. We care about you and will be here when you return. Serve with honor and do the best you can.

[Jorja]

As if all the prior post in this thread were'nt enough...... What the Hell Are You Thinking?
Serve your time, be safe and come back home in one piece. We will still be here. Thank you for your service.

[Tabitha Storm]

served in the USAF. Thank you for your service!!

[Marcia Blue]

First Thanks for your service. Second keep your head and ##s down, and always be aware of your surroundings. Save the dressing for leave and when you get home, please.

[Cam]

I am a Vet from desert storm, my recommendation is to leave your alter ego at home and visit her in your dreams. You will not have the opportunity to dress over there, you will be too busy staying alive.

Thank you for serving and keep your eyes open and ass covered!

[Annette Todd]

I am retierd AF. Thanks for your service. A military outfit doesn't include pretty pink panties unless you are born female. Quarters are too close and then there is the chance (heaven forbid) you get injured. Wear the tighty whities.
Be safe and come home in one piece

Huuah!

[tonixd]

Wow ladies...
Well, first off thank you all for your support! And for your service as well!

Second, as to your concerns ladies, I am actually surprised. Very surprised.
I won't go into all of them, but the few...


3. That part of the world CDing can get you killed.

Hun, in THIS part of the world Cding can get you killed.
http://www.transgenderdor.org/?page_id=192


...if you value your...diginity, forget about trying anything while deployed.
For most of your post, thank you! It's this part that bothers me. Tell me how I can have dignity and live a lie?

I'm not sure about most of you ladies here, but this is not an "alter-ego" for me. It is who I am.
Why do you think that preparing for service and being feminine equals 'my head in my butt"?
Why do many of you assume that it would be a distraction for me? It is for you?
Just the shear visceral reaction here has completely caught me off guard. Nearly all of you have instantly gone :eek: without so much as a second thought.
Do you actually believe the propaganda you spout here about being "Ok" and "normal" and "adjusted" and wanting to change the culture, or are you all sitting here lying to yourselves?

[TxKimberly]

Like others have said, a LOT of us here have served our respective countries. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the majority here have.
As for what to do while deployed in the middle east - leave that shit alone.
If any of your peers catches you, your career is hosed. If the civilians catch you, they react VERY harshly to this sort of thing there. And by harsh, I'm talking about large rocks impacting your skull at high velocity.
Leave that shit alone while you are over there . . . .

[tonixd]

Like others have said, a LOT of us here have served our respective countries. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the majority here have.
As for what to do while deployed in the middle east - leave that shit alone.
If any of your peers catches you, your career is hosed. If the civilians catch you, they react VERY harshly to this sort of thing there. And by harsh, I'm talking about large rocks impacting your skull at high velocity.
Leave that shit alone while you are over there . . . .

Thank you for your service as well.

Show me the regulation that would "hose" my career. Show me the battles who would do said hosing. And show me the Law that would have the rock hurled at my head.
Please don't make assumptions where no fact exits.

[Kathi Lake]

Toni,

The regulation you were wondering about is called the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Perhaps you've heard of it? :).

Either article 133 (conduct unbecoming) or 134 (To the prejudice of good order and discipline)could be used against you. Add to that DoD instruction 6130, where items are given that can disqualify you from military service. Here's a quote "history of major abnormalities or defects of the genitalia, such as change of sex [and] hermaphroditism.” Under the mental standards in the same regulation, “current or history of psychosexual conditions, including but not limited to transsexualism [and] transvestism” is considered disqualifying."

So, what do you want to do? Serve in silence, or not serve, going out in a blaze of glory? The ball (so to speak) is in your court. As for going after people here that gave their advice, remember; they cared enough to give their advice. Going after them for giving it - even if you disagree -shows poor form. Have you not learned the rule of "smile and nod?"

As for myself, I have been in various sandboxes in my 30-plus years. Sometimes I play and sometimes I don't. Use your best judgement, but remember - your bags will be checked on the way home by customs agents - usually military. Tread carefully.

Good luck, and God bless over there!

Kathi

[RachelB.]

Having served it that part of the world some of the locals will beat you to death if they even suspect you crossdress. Not to mention the guys in your unit that could do you harm. It is really easy to set some one up in a war zone. I'm sorry but you are in the wrong profession if this is what you want.

[Tracii G]

Kathi posted the ruling so nuff said.
You can argue all you want about it the military is black and white and doesn't give a squat who you are and how you feel, they own you so to speak.
We all here understand you are who you are and we accept that.The military and your peers serving with you aren't going to like it at all.
@ I hold no animosity towards you for singling my post out.
Its true a CD can be killed in the USA but in a Muslim country you can bet on it if they find out.
Good luck doing your 365 and I hope you return safe and sound.Your tour there will change your life.

[ReluctantDebutant]

I know National Guard you're in a close knit unit hell you and you senior NCOs and officers might all be on a first name basis. I don't know but I am guessing your battle buddies all know and are cool or don't care about your unmentionables. Yo probably drill with just your unit ever month maybe you train as a battalion or brigade during the two weeks every year. And no one has notice or has cared about your panties.

Now when you get to Khandahar or Bagrahm as a main base or whatever FSB you might go to after that you are going to fall under the command of the Regular Army and surround by other various units not just from the Army but the Marines, Navy and Airforce. How will you wash these panties? The Civilian contractors who do the laundry don't do handwash. Are you going to wash them in the sinks in the communal showers with hundreds of other enlisted and NCOs coming in an out? Where will you hang them to dry? Male and female barrack/tents are separated. Some one is going to notice. Didn't you learn about murphy's law? Some Old school E8/E9 who is still pretty steam over DADT being dropped is going to hit you with the UCMJ so hard. Or worse Jarine Gunnery Sgt Cliche is going to spot you with them in the shower dressing room and isn't going to take kindly to panty wearing Soldier being on the same base as his MEN and he'll have something other then regs to hit you with.

But you know you are right. What do I know? I am just a Cross-dressing Army National Guard soldier who has been deployed to Afganistan. What do I know about what it is like for a Crossdressing Army National Guard soldier who is going to be deployed to Afganistan?

Again Good luck and Be Safe.

[JulieK1980]

USN. Hospital Corps

From my own experience, best to leave it be till you get back. You'll have many other things to worry about over there than what to wear. Keep your head down, and come back to tell us about it.

Thanks for your service.

[Marcia Blue]

While DADT has been replace with "Gay is OK". Transgenderism is still not tolerated in the Armed Forces. I know it seems backwards but often the military is real redneck/backwoods. Their are members on this forum, who are currently active duty or recently retired who will back me up. My father was 20 years Air Force Military Police. He has told stories of hauling officers and enlisted off to stockade for minor infractions, only to be found to be wearing female bras or panties. He said the married ones tried the wife made me do it, story. The single ones usually had no real out, and were released from duty, as were some of the married ones. We really are thinking of your best interest, when we suggest, you wait to dress till you are on leave or back home.

[Karencd37]

I'm dating myself here, but I crossdressed in Bangkok, while on R&R from Viet Nam. Great fun and re-kindled my CD desires which had been suppressed while in the service. Save it for R&R, don't even think about it while in a combat zone.

[JohannaSophia]

I did my time in Viet Nam and Later in Desert Shield. We all appreciate you currant service in a very dangerous place. Keep your head together and come back safe.

There was just no privacy and no room for playthings that don't fit the accepted norm during my VN Tour including R&R and Leave.

During my Desert Shield time I did have enough privacy with a lock on the door to look at myself in a mirror tucked while trying to work on breast push up but I did not keep anything in the room that did not belong in a guy's room.

[Sophia Claire]

So, girls.... just so you all know, I'm in the Army National Guard :battingeyelashes:

I have been put on orders for deployment to Afghanistan :doh:

So, two questions:
1. Who else among serves, or has served, in the military?
2. Any suggestions for fem fun while deployed?


1. 8 years Navy, one year Coast Guard and counting.
2. DON'T. Deployment is not the time for any of that. You'll come back, go to your day job, dress away. Trust me on this one: experience is a cruel bitch, a war zone is no place for letting your hair down (so to speak). The last thing you want is to be in a dress when your FOB takes IDF.

[Voulez-Vous]

Show me the regulation that would "hose" my career. Show me the battles who would do said hosing. And show me the Law that would have the rock hurled at my head.Please don't make assumptions where no fact exits.

oh boy...this isn't going to end well...

[Sophia Claire]

oh boy...this isn't going to end well...

damn right it won't...

[Sophia Claire]

Thank you for your service as well.

Show me the regulation that would "hose" my career. Show me the battles who would do said hosing. And show me the Law that would have the rock hurled at my head.
Please don't make assumptions where no fact exits.

In the Navy, it's NAVMED P-117 Change 126. I've been in the military long enough to know that if it's in one service's medical manuals, it's in all the services'. It's not a UCMJ violation, but it would be an administrative/medical discharge. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. You'll get med boarded and tossed out like week-old garbage. And if you are hell-bent on dressing over there (which it sounds very much like you are) against how many decades of military experience, you'll see just how quickly they'll effect that end.

The military is the most conservative organization ("conservative" here being used in the classical sense of adhering strongly to tradition) in the government, and the only one that still prohibits CD/TGs from service. Any old guard, religious whack-job, or homo/transphobic idiot who sees you dressing and doesn't like it can turn you in. From your unit or not.

In Afghanistan, the "law" such that it exists, retains much of the basis in Shari'a that the Taliban enforced after the Russians left. Currently in the law is the precept that no political party, interest group, or social club may advocate anything in opposition to Islamic morality. That said, Islamic morality (and you should really trust my expertise on this matter) makes no distinction between homosexuality, a capital offense, and crossdressing. True, the preferred method of execution is no longer stoning, but you would probably be hanged if the locals had their way. Which I believe is what TxKimberly is talking about.

Please don't assume that no facts exist where they very plainly do.

[Jorja]

Or...... you could say the hell with it. What do all those current and ex-military members know anyhow? It's your choice. Do as you like.

[hmerkin]

Hello Girl-Friend, (Big Fan)
Wearing Nylon Panties, Sheer-Nude Pantyhose, bra,slip and black patent pumps with the usual military uniform is quite awesome! No Doubt, standing strong for the Great U.S. Forces For Freedom-is Never Ending....Thank You!!!

[hmerkin]

Hi Girl-Friends,

I hope this does not offend anyone. My sister-in-law works for the Army. She deployed to Afghanistan and left behind some of her uniforms! I have Always been fascintated with her uniform. I am small - and did serve with the military, but not long term. Her blouse and skirt fit me well-enough. I bought the nylon panties and sun-tan pantyhose from wall-mart. The high heel pumps I ordered from Zappos!-(Fit me Well). The Rush of wearing a Military Female uniform Is Over-Welming! Hugs....I Love You!!!

[Jessica Keys]

Show me the regulation that would "hose" my career

You have got too be kidding me....you are for real arn't you?
They don't need no regulation to make your career a liveing "hell".
Forget any "dressing" while over there...period!

I had my Asia'n vacation courtesy of the US Army in the mid 60's so I know!

[Nadine Annette]

I served four years with the Navy. I dressed once. There is no privacy to do what you need to do there. Please listen to everyone.

Nadine

[Jan Michell Collins]

To all who have served and are serving. Thank you for your service to our country. To thouse who returned home. Welcome home !!!!!

[MissTee]

Retired USAF. Cold War duty, and a decorated vet of of Grenada, several Central America stints, and Desert Storm.
Don't even think about dressing. It's not accepted or tolerated, and could be enough of a distraction to get you killed.

[Melani]

As a former member of the guard Thank You for your service and I wish you well hu ra

[Stephanie47]

You would not have done well in my infantry squad.





Show me the regulation that would "hose" my career. Show me the battles who would do said hosing. And show me the Law that would have the rock hurled at my head.
Please don't make assumptions where no fact exits.

[JohannaSophia]

Hi Girl-Friends,

I hope this does not offend anyone. My sister-in-law works for the Army. She deployed to Afghanistan and left behind some of her uniforms! I have Always been fascintated with her uniform. I am small - and did serve with the military, but not long term. Her blouse and skirt fit me well-enough. I bought the nylon panties and sun-tan pantyhose from wall-mart. The high heel pumps I ordered from Zappos!-(Fit me Well). The Rush of wearing a Military Female uniform Is Over-Welming! Hugs....I Love You!!!

Yes, that is cool at home in Indiana.

[Sophia Claire]

Retired USAF. Cold War duty, and a decorated vet of of Grenada, several Central America stints, and Desert Storm.
Don't even think about dressing. It's not accepted or tolerated, and could be enough of a distraction to get you killed.

or even worse, by your distraction you could cause someone else to be killed. You don't want that on your hands.

[Michelle Deere]

Welcome to Afghanistan. Did a tour with the CDN Mil here and now back as a civvie.
This is not the place to dress. I have good private accom but nothing fem. Only activity is via internet.
Out of the 30,000 on this base (I don't go outside the wire), I have yet to see any other CD'ers, but I bet they are out there.
M.

[Cam]

Wow ladies...
Well, first off thank you all for your support! And for your service as well!

Second, as to your concerns ladies, I am actually surprised. Very surprised.
I won't go into all of them, but the few...


Hun, in THIS part of the world Cding can get you killed.
http://www.transgenderdor.org/?page_id=192


For most of your post, thank you! It's this part that bothers me. Tell me how I can have dignity and live a lie?

I'm not sure about most of you ladies here, but this is not an "alter-ego" for me. It is who I am.
Why do you think that preparing for service and being feminine equals 'my head in my butt"?
Why do many of you assume that it would be a distraction for me? It is for you?
Just the shear visceral reaction here has completely caught me off guard. Nearly all of you have instantly gone :eek: without so much as a second thought.
Do you actually believe the propaganda you spout here about being "Ok" and "normal" and "adjusted" and wanting to change the culture, or are you all sitting here lying to yourselves?

Many of us who responded have been there. As you already know, the military is a different world and a different culture. I frequently wore panties while in uniform stateside but things are totally different while deployed. Even though DADT is no more, you will put yourself in very probable very real danger by trying to dress in combat. The old prejudices are even more acute in a combat zone. We just want you to understand things from our point of view before you make your decision. Whatever that decision is, please take care of yourself and protect yourself over there.

[Sophia Claire]

Retired USAF. Cold War duty, and a decorated vet of of Grenada, several Central America stints, and Desert Storm.

BTW, I haven't said this yet, but to my sisters in service, thank you. And to Miss Tee, I have a great deal of respect for Grenada vets. Communist expansion in the Caribbean was a subject of interest for me in my intelligence courses. People talk a lot of mess about Grenada. It was even in an Adam Sandler movie "Didn't that last, like, eight hours?" Most people aren't really aware that it wasn't just a political brouhaha; and not just a NEO (that's a noncombatant evacuation operation for you non-military types); but that the Cuban military, probably the only competent military in the Caribbean, had sent their special forces and combat engineers there ostensibly to build an airport (read: forward air base). They had prepared fighting positions and hardened facilities. And they put up, by most accounts, a pretty stubborn resistance. To the point where 2 entire battalions (if memory serves, that's about 4,000 troops, kids) to reinforce the original landing force. If it was a walk in the park, why did it require 7200 troops, including SFOD-D to handle a little over 2200 Cubans? Rumor has it that there were a handful of Soviet troops on the ground as well as "advisors." It may have been a brief conflict, but it wasn't a laughing matter by any stretch. Much respect to those who fought in the Rodney Dangerfield of Cold War engagements.

[TxKimberly]

Thank you for your service as well.

Show me the regulation that would "hose" my career. Show me the battles who would do said hosing. And show me the Law that would have the rock hurled at my head.
Please don't make assumptions where no fact exits.

Really youngun? So how long have you been in the Army?

There are rules and regulations and then there is reality and what REALLY happens.
As an example, there are countless rules and regulations against sexual harassment but the reality is that it happens every damned day.
There are regulations protecting people from retaliation should they make complaints about that sort of thing but what is the reality? A woman who makes a sexual harassment complaint is almost certainly going to pay a price for making the complaint.
If you think that you are not going to suffer consequences if you are caught by the army, you are not being honest with yourself.
Also, there are many other posts here discussing it, so I am not going to rehash it all here, but being TG IS grounds for removal from the service and YOU are NOT protected by the new policy allowing gays to serve. They put US in a different category and still consider it to be a mental problem.
Having said all that, it's your life youngun and your call . . .

Thank YOU for taking your turn on the wall! :)

[redwriter]

I was in Iraq 4 yrs ago as a senior NCO and retired 2 yrs ago. I can tell you that if you value your military career, and your diginity, forget about trying anything while deployed. Murphy is always gunning for you, and things happen when you are not expecting them. Even when you get warned of an inspection, people still get caught with contraband. Don't do it. You will have enough to worry about. BELIEVE ME!

Keep your but down, and don't drink the water. Unless it comes from a bottle.

First off, thank you all for your service! I'm a writer working on a character who is a CD in the military, and was wondering about what an inspection is like while on deployment, specifically in Afghanistan. Would you be allowed to have a personal laptop in your living quarters? If so, could somebody check your internet browsing history as part of an inspection? For example, someone discovers that you were on CD sites, even if it was before you were actually deployed. Just wanted to know if this is possible, am trying to be accurate.

Thanks very much!

[bridgetta]

Cool. I like your bravery very much. I agree 100%. You are free to wear fabric shaped however you please. It is not your problem if someone has a problem with it. Your fighting for freedom. Good. Be Free

And. Thank you.

Sounds like the advice to heed protocal is from experience tho so be careful. In the end it is who we are that defines us more than what we do.

[Sophia Claire]

First off, thank you all for your service! I'm a writer working on a character who is a CD in the military, and was wondering about what an inspection is like while on deployment, specifically in Afghanistan. Would you be allowed to have a personal laptop in your living quarters? If so, could somebody check your internet browsing history as part of an inspection? For example, someone discovers that you were on CD sites, even if it was before you were actually deployed. Just wanted to know if this is possible, am trying to be accurate.

Thanks very much!

Room inspections don't really happen as often as most people think, and almost never in a war zone. Not in the Navy, anyway. If you get a room inspection and you're out of AIT (we call it A-school in the navy), it's because someone tipped your command off that there's something illegal going on in there. They'll call it a 'health and welfare' inspection. And no, they absolutely can't check your browsing history during a random inspection. I wouldn't let them touch my computer, and I'd be well within my rights. That's personal property and they can't mess with it without your permission. Not that they would, though. Most inspections focus on "gear adrift" (shit that's not stowed properly), stinking-ass laundry that hasn't been done in months, and drugs/drug paraphernalia.

[redwriter]

Room inspections don't really happen as often as most people think, and almost never in a war zone. Not in the Navy, anyway. If you get a room inspection and you're out of AIT (we call it A-school in the navy), it's because someone tipped your command off that there's something illegal going on in there. They'll call it a 'health and welfare' inspection. And no, they absolutely can't check your browsing history during a random inspection. I wouldn't let them touch my computer, and I'd be well within my rights. That's personal property and they can't mess with it without your permission. Not that they would, though. Most inspections focus on "gear adrift" (shit that's not stowed properly), stinking-ass laundry that hasn't been done in months, and drugs/drug paraphernalia.

Thank you Sophia. Very interesting. Didn't know that room inspections don't happen that often (in the Navy), and makes senses that a computer would be off limits since it's personal property. I imagine whoever finds "stinking-ass laundry" is not too happy to make that discovery!

[Cam]

[QUOTE=redwriter;2950090]First off, thank you all for your service! I'm a writer working on a character who is a CD in the military, and was wondering about what an inspection is like while on deployment, specifically in Afghanistan. Would you be allowed to have a personal laptop in your living quarters? If so, could somebody check your internet browsing history as part of an inspection? For example, someone discovers that you were on CD sites, even if it was before you were actually deployed. Just wanted to know if this is possible, am trying to be accurate.


While I was in the Air Force, we had an inspection of our barracks room every pay day. For the most part the commander came in, glanced around and if it was clean turned around and left. If something was out of order, then things could get interesting. They would check closets, drawers, boxes etc... Real pain in the ass! If you had a computer, they could only check it if they ad a warrant from the JAG and then the inspection was done in the presence of an MP. However, they could ask you for permission to check your computer and if you said no, and had access to classified ten they automatically had probable cause for a warrant. Then since they had cause for a warrant they pulled your security clearance untill AFOSI was convinced that you weren't a threat. By the time that happened they would already have you on a path to discharge. It just wasn't worth the risk if you wanted to have a career.

[StaceyJane]

I wasn't deployed in Afghanistan but I was in Iraq. When I was there we lived in tents. The 1st sgt did regular inspections of the living areas but only for cleanliness. One time they did what was called a Health and Welfare inspection where they went through everything. Sometimes they do this with the soldiers outside the tent sometimes with the soldier there. When they did mine I was there and was asked to empty out my duffle bag in front of a senior NCO. Good thing I didn't have anything in it.
Personal electronics such as laptops were okay and I never saw anyone asked to show their history. Of course back then we didn't have wireless internet and the only internet connection we had was through my units which was a hospital. Every clinic had a laptop with internet and everyone shared the computer. I stayed totally away from any CD or TG related while I was there. If you have any more questions get enough posts to PM and I would be more than happy to answer any questions.

[Tracii G]

I wonder where tonixd went to no recent replies.

[Jessicaa]

I would NOT do any crossdressing while overseas..be careful!


Looking out for you,
Jess

[Jeannie]

I wonder where tonixd went to no recent replies.

It appears this young Soldier was expecting a warm and fuzzy feeling that he did not get. I wish him success and I hope that he knows how to duck and run when the rocks start flying as TXKimberly so eloquently put it.

[luscious]

in a fundamentalist Islamic country there are dangers in expressing the freedoms we enjoy here in the USA.

I remember being caught in an emergency and I had NO time to remove the polish from my hands but I managed to put on gloves. lucky it was over in a flash of a few minutes and I am still alive and safe today.

imagine if one of those fundamental Islamic caught you in pink panties or with your nails polished pink


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_fundamentalism


Islamic fundamentalism (Arabic: usul, the "fundamentals") is the group of religious ideologies seen as advocating a return to the "fundamentals" of Islam: the Quran and the Sunnah. Definitions of Islamic fundamentalism vary. According to Christine L. Kettel, it is deemed problematic by those who suggest that Islamic belief requires all Muslims to be fundamentalists,[1] and by others as a term used by outsiders to describe perceived trends within Islam.[2] Exemplary figures of Islamic fundamentalism who are also termed Islamists are Sayyid Qutb, Ruhollah Khomeini, Abul Ala Mawdudi, and Israr Ahmad.[3] The 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran is seen by Western scholars as a political success of Islamic fundamentalism. Economist Eli Berman argues that Radical Islam is a better term for many post-1920s movements starting with the Muslim Brotherhood, because these movements are seen to practice "unprecedented extremism", thus not qualifying as return to historic fundamentals.[4]


Sharia. While both Islamists and fundamentalists are committed to implementing Sharia law


Islamic fundamentalism's push for sharia and an Islamic State has come into conflict with conceptions of the secular, democratic state, such as the internationally supported Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Anthony J. Dennis notes that "Western and Islamic visions of the state, the individual and society are not only divergent, they are often totally at odds."[29] Among human rights[30] disputed by fundamentalist Muslims are:
Freedom from religious police
Equality issues between men and women[31]
Separation of religion and state[32]
Freedom of speech[33]
Freedom of religion[34] – Muslims who leave Islam, "should be executed" after meeting certain requirements – i.e. presence of a Khalifah to propagate the punishment[35][36][37][38][39][40] while the right of non-Muslims to convert to Islam is celebrated.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law

Sharia (Arabic: شريعة‎ šarīʿah, IPA: [ʃaˈriːʕa], "legislation"; sp. shariah, sharīʿah;[1] also قانون إسلامي qānūn ʾIslāmī) is the moral code and religious law of Islam. Sharia deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, and fasting. Though interpretations of sharia vary between cultures, in its strictest definition it is considered the infallible law of God—as opposed to the human interpretation of the laws (fiqh).

There are two primary sources of sharia law: the precepts set forth in the Quran, and the example set by the Islamic prophet Muhammad in the Sunnah. Where it has official status, sharia is interpreted by Islamic judges (qadis) with varying responsibilities for the religious leaders (imams). For questions not directly addressed in the primary sources, they extend the application of sharia through consensus of the religious scholars (ulama) thought to embody the consensus of the Muslim Community (ijma). Islamic jurisprudence will also sometimes incorporate analogies from the Quran and Sunnah through qiyas, though Shia jurists prefer reasoning ('aql) to analogy.

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Shiite Cleric Yasser Habib
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFHPKAPDOck

[Tracii G]

He needs to rethink a bit IMO.

[redwriter]

I wasn't deployed in Afghanistan but I was in Iraq. When I was there we lived in tents. The 1st sgt did regular inspections of the living areas but only for cleanliness. One time they did what was called a Health and Welfare inspection where they went through everything. Sometimes they do this with the soldiers outside the tent sometimes with the soldier there. When they did mine I was there and was asked to empty out my duffle bag in front of a senior NCO. Good thing I didn't have anything in it.
Personal electronics such as laptops were okay and I never saw anyone asked to show their history. Of course back then we didn't have wireless internet and the only internet connection we had was through my units which was a hospital. Every clinic had a laptop with internet and everyone shared the computer. I stayed totally away from any CD or TG related while I was there. If you have any more questions get enough posts to PM and I would be more than happy to answer any questions.

Thank you StaceyJane! Ok, didn't know that general inspections would be for cleanliness. Yes, makes sense that personal computers were ok. From what I've read on this thread, it seems that dressing in a war zone would be very risky and not recommended for many reasons. I also get the impression that if someone were deployed in Europe or somewhere less dangerous, than it might be an option, with discretion. I did have a question about your last sentence, "If you have any more questions get enough posts to PM..." I'm not sure what you mean by "get enough posts to PM.."
One other question: Are there any books/other reading material you know of that would be good for learning about the system of promotion in the military (specifically the Army)? With security clearances, the Dept. of State's website has a lot of info, and I imagine it's hard to come by much other written info on them.

[redwriter]

[QUOTE=redwriter;2950090]First off, thank you all for your service! I'm a writer working on a character who is a CD in the military, and was wondering about what an inspection is like while on deployment, specifically in Afghanistan. Would you be allowed to have a personal laptop in your living quarters? If so, could somebody check your internet browsing history as part of an inspection? For example, someone discovers that you were on CD sites, even if it was before you were actually deployed. Just wanted to know if this is possible, am trying to be accurate.


While I was in the Air Force, we had an inspection of our barracks room every pay day. For the most part the commander came in, glanced around and if it was clean turned around and left. If something was out of order, then things could get interesting. They would check closets, drawers, boxes etc... Real pain in the ass! If you had a computer, they could only check it if they ad a warrant from the JAG and then the inspection was done in the presence of an MP. However, they could ask you for permission to check your computer and if you said no, and had access to classified ten they automatically had probable cause for a warrant. Then since they had cause for a warrant they pulled your security clearance untill AFOSI was convinced that you weren't a threat. By the time that happened they would already have you on a path to discharge. It just wasn't worth the risk if you wanted to have a career.

Thank you, Cam! I think I hit the wrong button to respond, so I apologize if this goes through twice. Interesting - didn't realize daily inspections would be for cleanliness (as StaceyJane also mentioned) and to make sure everything was more or less in order. Thanks for explaining about the case of someone who has access to classified - they say no to a computer search history, then there would be cause for a warrant and could pull your security clearance.

[luscious]

I think if one of those Islamist caught you crossdressing you would be a target for death,all kidding aside.

I know that this will be discussed before you get deployed.

they will not point anyone out but will tell everyone.

crossdressing is dangerous in an islamic country