Has your "bi-ness" evolved?

[whowhatwhen]

This is mainly for our members who were/are dealing with the conditional bi, or "bi when dressed" situation.
Has that changed over the past months/weeks?

I'm just curious if people have moved on, or are still pondering where they are.
Personally, I've moved farther away from any notion of "straight".

The biggest clue was having a completely non-sexual fantasy where I had a boyfriend who proposed to me and we ended up getting married.
:daydreaming:

Now I feel like I'd rather have a boyfriend, and that girls would be better as platonic friends.
Weird eh?

What conclusions have you come to?

[Brittany CD]

I'm attracted to women and only women, even when dressed

[windycissy]

Yes, I used to think I was just another hetero crossdresser until the first time a guy kissed me while I was dressed as a girl, and it was like somebody threw a switch! Changed my life forever...

[heatherdress]

No change for me. Only attracted to women.

[ArleneRaquel]

From a very young age I had dreams of living my adult life as a female and having men attracted to me, now I'm living my dreams and enjoying it.

[PrettyFlowingGown]

Yes it has for me. I had my first sexual experience with a man at aged 26, and i was terrified!!! i used to get anxieity for the next few years, cause i felt guilty for what i did, cause i always beleived i was straight.
then i met another man a bit later on when i was 31, and i only was intimate with him while i was dressed , and everything changed. in the past 2 years though i'm very comfy and confident admiring cute guys, but i'm very particuler who i like. i dont admire guys on a whole, they have to be pretty special and nice.
i can only be intimate with them as a woman, not a man though. its a great feeling being said i'm beautiful, and being called a pretty lady, and being pampered.

[Diversity]

I have not had those feelings. I'm still straight but I have wondered what it feels like to be a woman making love to a man and all the feelings of love-making above and below the equator, so to speak.��Di

[Lorileah]

I don't think it has increased. It was always there. It is more that the opportunity is now more common since I don't have a woman n my life so I can act or react.

Also funny how when the question is asked specifically TO the Bi's
This is mainly for our members who were/are dealing with the conditional bi, or "bi when dressed" situation. how many have to make sure they let everyone know they are NOT bi.

[GeminaRenee]

I was thinking the same thing, Lorileah. Wonder what that means? :thinking:

Funny this question should come up, though. I just spent a rather wonderful evening with a married couple yesterday, and all of my theories about my bisexuality were emphatically confirmed. In fact, if you saw me in a darkened room right now, you'd probably still see me glowing a little.

Any question of whether my bi-ness was contingent upon my state of dress were erased when I pondered last night's events today. I knew with utmost certainty that I would have been happy to jump right back in and do in male mode, what I did en femme the night before.

Furthermore, I had theorized that my bisexuality was mostly contingent upon the male presented before me: not macho, not overly apish in appearance or mannerism, with a nice helping of feminine quality, and maybe a little geeky to boot. All resoundingly confirmed! A somewhat rare creature it seems, but that's just what makes me feel all lascivious.

No, any remaining thoughts of being 'conditionally bi' based on my state of attire have been throughly extracted and disposed of forthwith. The only condition that matters is a question of whether or not he's my type!

[Badtranny]

I'm still straight but

There is no straight ...but You're either straight or something other than straight.



Also funny how when the question is asked specifically TO the Bi's how many have to make sure they let everyone know they are NOT bi.

Totally, so funny. Imagine being in a classroom and the teacher says "I'd like to hear from those that are bisexual". A lone hand goes up and the teacher says "yes, what would you like to say" and the student who raised their hand says "I'm not bisexual!".



The only condition that matters is a question of whether or not he's my type!

This is beautiful. Self acceptance is a magical thing.

[Wildaboutheels]

Most adults have very firm views one way or the other of exactly WHAT they are attracted to and how they could not possibly EVER make a mistake or fall for...

Watching 'The Crying Game' is very likely to change the attitude of ANYone with an open mind.

IMO, this movie should be required viewing for all people over 10 years old, especially considering what most 10 year olds are probably watching these days.

And No, as far as your question.

[Sandy Michaels]

maybe it's because i see myself as a bisexual crossdresser, not a crossdresser that is bisexual. Iv'e been "bisexual" as long as i can remember. i don't do relationships so it's mainly just a sex thing. that's the way i see it. i go with who ever appeals to me at the moment. currently i'm sticking with male partners but that's because i had a bad experience with a female who just reacted badly to my sexuality and dressing. one thing that has changed is the way i see sexuality. in the past there was no sexuality just people enjoying each others company. hopefully that style of thinking will return.

i use bisexual to cover all sexualities that don't cover straight and gay, ie omni, pan, poly, fluid. basicly those who are happy with whatever they find when they reach in their partners pants. which i always am.

[Millie]

I've always been bisexual as well as my SO. Been with both, although I tend to like women a bit more. I haven't been with a man that gives me the same feelings as a women. The cross dressing does somewhat justify my bi-ness for me.

[Cheryl T]

Confirmed lesbian here ... and would be if I transitioned.

[Angela Campbell]

I don't think this area has changed much for me. I have always been attracted to the feminine form and that goes for GG's and Ts or CD's. If female and attractive I like. I have never been attracted at all to any man presenting as a man, whether I am dressed female or not.

[Beverley Sims]

Me! I'm definitely straight......Love women.
When I was a blonde bombshell and 20 I did go out with a group of friends and I made my boyfriend for the evening feel like a man.
He enjoyed the woman he was with so much he wanted to meet her again.... Sadly for him he never did.

[kimdl93]

I don't entirely qualify to answer since I've never been "bi-when-dressed." My bi-phase was actually limited to young adulthood - you know, everyone experiments in college ;) . Once I get seriously involved with the woman who became my wife, I never really had any desire to go back.

[Karren H]

To date.... I've never met a man who I would change teams for.......

[whowhatwhen]

Also funny how when the question is asked specifically TO the Bi's how many have to make sure they let everyone know they are NOT bi.

I was mainly curious how some people in the older threads have gotten on.
:P

As much as I tried to deny it, the fact is you can't be straight unless you like vaginas.
Also, the whole thing about straight guys not fantasizing about marrying men.
:D

[Ressie]

evolved only in fantasy.

[Beverley Sims]

If anything my bi-ness? has gone the other way.
As I said I am straighter now. :)

[joannemarie barker]

Men only for me :) whether cd or not :)

[Sandy Michaels]

Men only for me :) whether cd or not :)


for the moment the same could be said about me :)

[IamSara]

Badtranny is correct. you are either straight or not. I am bi so I guess I am not. No my dressing (transsexual in my case) has not lessened or strengthened any of these desires. I do abstain from my bi side as I am married and will not jeopardize what little marriage I have left ( due to my gender identity issues).

[Jamie Ann]

I don't think it has increased. It was always there. It is more that the opportunity is now more common since I don't have a woman n my life so I can act or react.

Also funny how when the question is asked specifically TO the Bi's how many have to make sure they let everyone know they are NOT bi.

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Lorileah makes an important point. A substantial proportion of the human race has at least some degree of homosexual tendency. If sexual tendencies are indexed by thoughts and fantasies, not just by overt behavior, then that fraction may be ½ or more. If we are married or in a heterosexual relationship, then we are more apt to fight that tendency; but that doesn’t mean we don’t have it. On the other hand, if we are divorced, separated, or single and unattached, then we can experiment at bit, which is likely to lead to greater intimacy with men as time goes on.

Lorileah also alludes to another important point, namely, that some of those who are married or in heterosexual relationships are a bit too eager to announce to anyone who will listen, “I’m a crossdresser, BUT I’M 100% HETEROSEXUAL !!!” Those who have ever read Shakespeare’s Hamlet for a literature class may recall: “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” Hamlet’s mother was conjecturing that too much protest may be a sign that the thing being refuted is in fact true. Crossdressers who protest too much may raise suspicions that they are gayer than they claim. It might be better for them to say, “I love you, honey, and I can’t imagine myself with anyone else.” Leave sexual orientation out of it and say what matters to the persons who matter.

[simalina]

Im bisexual, and I guess I always have been. But it has still evolved somewhat, for example, for many years I could not imagine me kissing guys, it just didn't.. compute. Today my day dreams include whole lot of kisses =)

[StarrOfDelite]

I don't think it has increased. It was always there. It is more that the opportunity is now more common since I don't have a woman n my life so I can act or react.

Also funny how when the question is asked specifically TO the Bi's how many have to make sure they let everyone know they are NOT bi.

I agree with this entire post, and also the posts of WendyCissy and Jamie Ann and Bad Tranny. Since getting divorced I have felt free to investigate options that are, for many ethical and societal reasons, taboo for a married man. After those investigations I agree with WindyCissy that the first experience can be a game-changer. :battingeyelashes: And, as BadTranny and Jamie Ann pointed out, it is amusing to see how many girls on the forum feel impelled to say "I'm only attracted to women!" whenever this type of thread appears.

[flatlander_48]

Crossdressing came after the realization that I was bisexual, so things have not changed. I was, and am, pretty close to 50/50...

[Kate Simmons]

The biggest caveat I see with this is that the boy friend has to like the fact that the woman he likes is really a man. If he is okay with that, I see no problem.:)

[Eddie]

Now that I am divorced and single again I do find myself fantasizing about it a bit more while dressed en femme. I am not attracted to men at all. I have and will always love the look, feel, touch and scent of a woman. My fantasy is more or less being with another woman, then having her " force " to be with her man. Oh my, hope this post isn't too steamy :)

[mikiSJ]

I was raped when I was 15 (as a boy) and I am fearful of men in general - so no, it is my wife or nothing!

[luscious]

I do not like men or boys.

its exciting being treated and pursued as a woman or assumed to be a woman but I love women.
then I must reject the advances because I AM NOT INTERESTED BUT LOVE BEING A DIVA!

sometimes it scary when you or vulnerable ; such as when you have on high heels ,a corset or nails.

I get upset when men look at my privates in the gym or the bathroom or hit on me when I am in MALE MODE/DRAB.

[Stefanie jones]

Bi thoughts when dressed not when in male mode

[Leah Lynn]

I consider myself to be straight, but, I have had a few fantasies. RW, not remotely interested in men, but, I cannot say I'm not curiously attracted to some CD's/TG's. It could be that with one of my "sisters" it wouldn't seem to be quite a homosexual affair. I know; I'm wierd.

[Mistybtm]

I am bi have been for A long time now dressing brings it out more in me where i would rather be with A guy more than A girl when dressed, if not dressed then I feel more like being with A woman than A man most of the time but not always.

[STACY B]

What in the Hell does that meen Bi ? Now if ya dont like guys but you would be with a guy dressed as a woman ,, Some say they like guys real guys ,, Some say they Only like woman but they dress as woman an dont woman like guys ? All this crap is to Crazy for me ,,I think that ALL people are with who ever makes them Happy ,,No matter How they are Plumbed ,,, What the hell does that matter what they got down there ya cant see it with there clothes on . Its just to Crazy ,, You can do it all no matter how they are Plumbed just think about it ,,,Man or Woman ,,, They have the same thing ,,,I think its the looks an attitude more that the plumbing . Most guys dont want another guy to control them ,,Takes away from there ego,,, An they relent with another CD cuz they dont feel theaten ,, So bi is just a nice word for it ,,,Dont freak about being called gay ,,,Cuz my cousins gay an he wouldn't dare be caught dead dressed as a girl like me ,,,They think we are weard ,,,LOL,,,,

[Anita_2]

I like to be dressed like a woman but I love women. I think my cd is in one part fetish of women. Allso my fantasies are lesbian - I would like yours comment on this.

[AshleyScott]

I find myself falling between two camps (no pun intended) :heehee:

On the one hand, I have had full sex with 3 men in my life and, if the right circumstance (for me) came along, I would do so again. But, on the whole I prefer the female form. So, does that classify me as bi-sexual?

On the other, I like to wear feminine clothing - it makes me feel sexy. I suppose one might refer to that as a form of sexual gratification.

I'm not bothered by the whole cross dressing effected by some members (many of whom I think look very attractive). But I do like to wear skirts (not "man skirts"), tights/stockings, underwear and high heels. And I do so in public, at every opportunity - although I have yet to pluck up the courage to travel by plane so dressed (I'll get there :daydreaming:)

As an aside, my wife knows and accepts that I have had sex with a man (well, she had sex with him as well)... but doesn't like my wearing feminine clothing. :straightface:

As with Anita_2, I think my cd is in one part fetish of women.

I'm just thankful for the opportunity to discuss this with other people who find themselves similarly ostracised.

[Meghan]

I find myself falling between two camps (no pun intended) :heehee:

On the one hand, I have had full sex with 3 men in my life and, if the right circumstance (for me) came along, I would do so again. But, on the whole I prefer the female form. So, does that classify me as bi-sexual?

My one experience with a man was with a close friend, in a hotel after a long evening of partying. My inhibitions were down, my wife was bossy and seeing me with a man has always been a fantasy of hers (and apparently mine). This was before I was "out" so I was not Meghan at the time, but my wife smiling and watching made it hot. Let's see, how do I put this, I was on the receiving end of a nice oral experience, but for whatever the reason I wasn't able to orgasm. So that makes me bi too, yes?


I'm just thankful for the opportunity to discuss this with other people who find themselves similarly ostracized.

Very well said, Ashley!

Meghan

[ArleneRaquel]

My choice to live as a female 24/7 has been a game changer, I date men & love it. But the well has been dry for over two months now. I'm beginning to believe that I was bi since birth, I just didn't act on it until I was well into my 50's. My original opinion was that I was bi only when enfemme. Well any way I'm still evolving. :)

[whowhatwhen]

Bi thoughts when dressed not when in male mode

Can you expand a bit more on this?
If not, I can understand since the whole thing was confusing to me too.

Maybe you'll post a thread a few months later saying you've figured it all out.
:)


I like to be dressed like a woman but I love women. I think my cd is in one part fetish of women. Allso my fantasies are lesbian - I would like yours comment on this.

Congrats! You're 100% completely straight!
:)

[Michelle8]

The more I dress the more I wish I could find a man to be with.I have never been with a man but the urges are getting more powerful
But only when dressed

[Katie Louise]

I don't know whether its bi. I'm exclusivley attracted to females when I'm in DRAB, but when dressed I an just another girl giving pleasure to a man. It's like when I put on a dress et al, I switch. Siobhan is a woman, albeit with a little bit extra.

[sometimes_miss]

It 'evolved' but not in the direction you'd think. When I was a young teen, I thought that because I liked to dress as a girl, behave as a girl, wanted to have sex as a girl, and wanted to be a girl, then of course it only made sense that I'd want to sexually be with boys. But it didn't fit; whenever I was dressed up and started thinking about sex, it was still always about being with a girl, even when the fantasies were about BEING a girl and having sex as a girl as well. So I guess I'm not cut out to be with boys sexually; even the thought makes me kind of nauseous. Sorry if that doesn't fit with the stereotype.

[JenniferLynn0370]

I believe I am Bi or beyond. I have always fantasized about doing all the things a woman does with a man...whether I was dressed or not...I always feel like a woman regardless of my attire. I am married; she does not approve of my fem side, and I have always and only ever been able to perform completely in bed with her if I imagine she is the man and I am the woman. I even bob my head up and down as I suck her breast; pretending I am servicing my man. She is rather well-endowed, which I absolutely envy, and it fills my mouth. I also wrap my legs around her or straddle her and try diligently to be the best woman I can be in bed! So, like I said, maybe beyond?

[Mythic]

I like women. But then again I've never kissed a guy before lol. I believe I wouldn't have a problem if he were pretty. After all I think its an attraction of the mind an body you need imo. I've just decided from now on not to outrule the possibility of falling for a man. Even though I'm not normally attracted to them.

[melissakozak]

It does not surprise me how many of us are bi. I am, too. But it doesn't matter what mode I am in. Attractive men are attractive....

[Dawn cd]

Sometimes bi-ness increases with age—when procreation is done with. In those cases crossdressing may not be the root cause of bisexual feelings, but it may lower resistance to feelings that were already there.

[Natalie D]

If I were replying to this at the turn of the year as I have to similar posts I'd say I'm defiantly straight!
However this year I've started going out dressed. Some of the bars and clubs I go to dressed are gay. I'm finding that I'm enjoying the male attention I sometimes get. It makes me feel more like a woman and of course the compliments are nice. I now feel like I'd like to be taken out for a night. I do have someone in mind. So if I did go out with this guy could it lead to the bedroom? After being treated as a lady by a nice guy all night. Its possible.

So to answer the question, for me yes I have changed when I'm out and dressed. When in male mode I still feel the same. Not interested in men at all

[Melani]

I went from believing I was str8 to just flirting with men online to then flirting with men while out en femme to going on dates and now I'm in a realationship with a great guy. This all occurred over a 3 year period. I still find women attractive but now prefer men. I even see him when not en femme. So yea I'd say my "bi-ness" has evolved.

[April_Ligeia]

I love femaleness to the extent that I emulate it. I just really have no interest at all in men, although if I were to extend my boundaries, I have seen quite a few crossdressers and transexuals that I thought were beautiful and have fantasized about them on occasion.

[Jenniferpl]

As I have often been told, my radar is always up for women. Women have always been my only choice. But then again I have never kissed guy, as a few of you have stated, it could be a game changer.

[EllieOPKS]

I am married to a beautiful woman and bi and quite comfortable with it. She is comfortable with it as well and has had bi experiences herself. We have an open relationship and speak freely of our desires and fantasies. However, we both are extremely selective of other people.

[julia marie]

There aren't many women that I don't find attractive and desirable in some way. There are few guys that I seem attracted to. I haven't been with a guy but I would like to try it, preferably dressed as a woman. (i know, it would be a guy who wants a guy dressed as a woman). As far as sexual feelings when dressed, yes a bit of it is fetish, some of it is thinking about being the woman to a guy, and part is about being the woman to another woman. Would that be "bi"?

[Sophie_C]

I simply do not understand why literally half of the posts in this thread are people screaming out how they are "straight" when the original post said:

"This is mainly for our members who were/are dealing with the conditional bi, or "bi when dressed" situation.
Has that changed over the past months/weeks?"

I know that usually there's a few people, but this many is plain-out annoying. It's like having a conversation about what dresses you like getting random people calling out how they "never wear dresses."

Get of this thread. It's not about you!

Anyway, for me, it seems to be going further and further over the deep end, but I can't tell if it's all fantasy, as I'm entirely in the closet. I feel like it might be creeping into my regular life, so who know's what's next? What's not helpful is coming across people who successfully transition, since it's tempting me more than I want it to...

[Badtranny]

So to answer the question, for me yes I have changed when I'm out and dressed. When in male mode I still feel the same. Not interested in men at all

What a wonderfully honest post.

[StaceyXOXOX]

for me it's a complicated answer, i'm only "attracted" to women (my wife) but love looking at other womens outfits. however when dressed in private i do fantasies about what i would be like to make out and oral with a guy, nothing else tho.

[Kelly Smith]

If there is not at least one woman involved than sex is not interesting to me. Having said that, if I was dolled up and dressed, and if the guy was attractive and he made me feel pretty, I could probably do a pretty good job of being the girl. I haven't done it, but I would like to give it a try.

So the answer is, the more I get into presenting myself as a woman, the more interested i am in experiencing sex as a woman. Who knows, I might.really like it.

[Meghan]

After reading all of the posts and reading the real intent behind the thread, I think I have an honest answer.

I have been with a man while not Meghan, and it wasn't exciting in any way other than it was a time when I was being controlled.

However, when I imagine being with a man when Meghan has come out to play, it's makes my loins tingle and spasm at the thought of it.

It's for a pretty simple reason. I want to feel attractive when I am with a man.

Meghan

[tiffanynjcd24]

i get the feeling that i am bi

[Sandy Michaels]

I simply do not understand why literally half of the posts in this thread are people screaming out how they are "straight" when the original post said:

"This is mainly for our members who were/are dealing with the conditional bi, or "bi when dressed" situation.
Has that changed over the past months/weeks?"

I know that usually there's a few people, but this many is plain-out annoying. It's like having a conversation about what dresses you like getting random people calling out how they "never wear dresses."

Get of this thread. It's not about you!



it bugs me too, so i just ignore them.

[paulaprimo]

my bi-ness is evolving quite nicely...being with a man as paula has been a wonderful experience and i find i want to do it more and more.
only 2 years ago i would have never even considered it, and now that's all i think about. i love the feeling of being a woman and being with a
man is the ultimate acknowledgement. when they compliment you and tell you how pretty you look, take you out to dinner, hold you and
treat you like a queen, its such a fantastic feeling that i can't explain, but do enjoy! it has also helped me come out of the closet and spend
more and more time in public.

[seanmuscle]

I believe I am Bi or beyond. I have always fantasized about doing all the things a woman does with a man...whether I was dressed or not...I always feel like a woman regardless of my attire. I am married; she does not approve of my fem side, and I have always and only ever been able to perform completely in bed with her if I imagine she is the man and I am the woman. I even bob my head up and down as I suck her breast; pretending I am servicing my man. She is rather well-endowed, which I absolutely envy, and it fills my mouth. I also wrap my legs around her or straddle her and try diligently to be the best woman I can be in bed! So, like I said, maybe beyond?

Perhaps you should share your feelings with your wife. See if she will let you explore your fem side with a man. I am sure there are many men who adore you.

[sarac]

I also never realized how I felt about men until I was kissed. This was about two years ago. Since then yes I have been very much attracted to men. The story is much more complex but to answer the question yes on all levels

[STACY B]

As I have often been told, my radar is always up for women. Women have always been my only choice. But then again I have never kissed guy, as a few of you have stated, it could be a game changer.



Your Radar was up alrite ,,Like mine ,,Wanting to see what they had on ,,,LOL,,,,

[Claire Cook]

Maybe we need a definition of "bi"? We seem to have various levels here. I've been exclusively heterosexual, but I do fantasize about men. When I was a kid guys would hit on me, and I never knew how to respond to this. Now that I have accepted who I am, those memories are coming back to me more and more. (And I admit that when I'm out and about, and a guy hold the door for me, or notices me, it's a rush.) But not enough of a rush to call it sexual attraction.

[Sandy Michaels]

alot of similar things were said at at the [/URL] [url]http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?176977-Crossdressing-and-male-attraction (http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?176977-Crossdressing-and-male-attraction) thread.

read through there if you want other similar answers.

[flatlander_48]

Maybe we need a definition of "bi"? We seem to have various levels here. I've been exclusively heterosexual, but I do fantasize about men. When I was a kid guys would hit on me, and I never knew how to respond to this. Now that I have accepted who I am, those memories are coming back to me more and more. (And I admit that when I'm out and about, and a guy hold the door for me, or notices me, it's a rush.) But not enough of a rush to call it sexual attraction.

I believe it was Kinsey that offered the theory that sexuality is a spectrum. Many who function as heterosexual are not necessarily completely heterosexual. Many who function as homosexual are not necessarily completely homosexual. There are many shades of gray between those two extremes. However, one misconception that people can have is thinking of sexuality only in terms of what one does. They forget the part about how a person thinks of themselves. Suppose a gay man decides, for whatever reason, to be celibate. Is he still gay? Of course, even though there is no physical activity.

Anyway, this is what seems to make sense to me. Although I am married, I consider myself to be fairly close to the mid-point between hetero and homosexual. Historically I've had many more male partners than female. Many years ago, someone told me that being bisexual means that it is possible to have a relationship with any consenting person on the planet. This thought was a revelation to me, took me completely by surprise and released a lot of the prevailing tension.

As with many things we do, there are unforeseen consequences. Before I understood that I was something other than heterosexual, I was often uncomfortable around men because I didn't want anyone to challenge my masculinity. I think on some subconscious plane I knew, or at least suspected, that there was something "different" about me. However, in more recent times my relationships with other men are more relaxed and less standoffish.

[Badtranny]

Maybe we need a definition of "bi"? .

No. Don't over think it just because so many here are conflicted. Bisexual simply means that one could go either way. Some Bi people have a strong preference for one side or the other, BUT, they could go either way if the mood strikes.

[whowhatwhen]

That's basically it, bisexuals can find either gender attractive and it does not matter how they're dressed or which state of mind they're in.

I had just remembered how many people posted in threads over the time I've been reading here who've said that their attraction to men was conditional.
Maybe some tried mansex and didn't like it, maybe some went on to enjoy and accept it, and what about those who are still struggling to understand?

Some of the posts here have been very helpful and informative and I thank you for sharing.

[CindyT]

Well, I like to think I'm strictly hetero but of course, when dressed there is a little fantasy there, perhaps bi-curious... OK, if I ever met the right guy at the right time in the right place I just might give it a try... but I mainly like sexy girls.

[ReineD]

... namely, that some of those who are married or in heterosexual relationships are a bit too eager to announce to anyone who will listen, “I’m a crossdresser, BUT I’M 100% HETEROSEXUAL !!!” Those who have ever read Shakespeare’s Hamlet for a literature class may recall: “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

I think that many CDers say this as a defense against a prevailing attitude in our culture, that men who crossdress "must" be doing so in order to attract men. CDers are influenced by the media just as much as anyone else. Until I actually met a CDer, my awareness of men who dressed like women was informed mostly by the outlandish DQs I saw in news stories about gay pride parades.

[Megan Briana]

Im a bit confused for myself. I have always considered myself hetero. I do admit to having some pretty strong fantasies and have recently allowed myself to enjoy them. I am not attracted to men, but those fantasies have crept in a few times also. The idea of being bi never really occurred to me, but by my reckoning if I allow myself to enjoy fantasizing about it then I really need to entertain the thought that yes, I am bi. Like the guy from "Stripes" said, "No, but I am willing to learn."

[ellieg]

I knew I was bi even before I began crossdressing, and had one experience that was great. Bi activity doesn't really fit into my current marriage, so I haven't been able to explore it more actively. As Ellie, I fantasize regularly about being with a man en femme. Being desired by, and submitting to, a man is something I very much want to experience. Hope to find a way to make it happen.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Marridd to a wonderful woman almost 49yrs. put me down as strait as an arrow.

[whowhatwhen]

<---------- As straight as a dog's hind leg.

[Badtranny]

Marridd to a wonderful woman almost 49yrs. put me down as strait as an arrow.

Since this thread is specifically addressed to bisexual people, than I'm just going to assume that every one who posted is bisexual. I mean, why else would somebody read and post in a thread that was clearly asking about your bisexuality and how it has evolved over time?

[Annaliese2010]

I only like GG and truly transgendered M2F women or girls. I don't consider the latter 'male' so I guess I'm bi but from a girl-on-girl (lesbian) perspective. In fact, I don't even have any male friends or aquaintances at all. Could never have a relationship with any kind of male including males who crossdress no matter how femme they may appear. If an M2F appearing/behaving individual isn't authentically, psychologically feminine in a truly inward mind-wise sense to begin with (all clothing aside), then that person is a male posing as female and of no interest to mua. If that seems confusing to someone then they're male by constitution no matter their outer appearance. So...I'm def not bi in the sense you're using it.

[whowhatwhen]

After this line all new posts must contain pictures of half-naked men:

[STACY B]

Since this thread is specifically addressed to bisexual people, than I'm just going to assume that every one who posted is bisexual. I mean, why else would somebody read and post in a thread that was clearly asking about your bisexuality and how it has evolved over time?




Stop it ,,,Your Making us Blush ,,,, LOL,,,,, Sticks & Stones ,,,,, Ohhhh BY the way ,,,Opp's ,,,,, I said BY AGAIN ,,,,CRAP ,,,,Cats out the bag ,,,,,

[Eryn]

In boy mode I am very attracted to my wife.

In girl mode I'm neuter. I enjoy the presence of women but don't think of them sexually.

It's the same with men, but I'm a lot more reserved with them because I'm unsure of how to respond if one of them might be attracted to me. Luckily, with my looks this is unlikely to be an issue!

[anastasiaprincess]

For a while now i have had conflicting thoughts about what i feel but on friday night just gone i went clubbing in full female dress up with my best friend (who indecently is a lesbian girl ) I was very worried at the start very confused with my feelings ( I had been in a hetro relationship for 13 years ) but i met the most most wonderful and understanding guy and to cut a long story short he showed me what i had been missing ! That night. The thing is he treated me like a lady something i have never experienced before and it felt so damn good ! yes i am a guy who likes to dress as a lady but to him i was all woman Enough said ;)

[Anneliese]

Imagine a world where there were no STDs or unwanted pregnancies...

I would have done everything possible with every form of gender...many times.

I loathe condoms, so I have limited myself greatly.

[Desiree2bababe]

My sexual orientation was strictly women before I began to venture out as a woman. Once I got the attention of men, I found I enjoyed it and love pleasing men yet I still remain attracted to women. I suppose my perfect mate would be a woman with functioning male parts.

[Rexy Lee]

Oh my has it! I am crazy about sexy women but to be dressed as one and have guys lust for you...just yummy!

[Ceri Anne]

One of the reasons I dress is because I am so enthralled with women, their softness, smell, gentleness and of course awsome cloths. While my sexual taste is for women, when dressed, I do have an oral turn on for clean, well groomed men. Don't like hairy guys at all.

[rita63]

I had bi relations befor marriage I remained faithful after but never lost the urge. Now that I am single again I would love to be with a man again, especially when dressed, or even another cd would be interesting and enjoyable.

hugs rita

[ZoiePalmer]

Im attracted to both and I do feel the urge when I see a guy I choose however to not act on it since I do put faith in my marriage and love my spouse. If i was single again then I would but I dont plan to be so I never will act on it.

[mirandacdgirl]

variety is the spice of life ;)

[Donna June]

I'm in the still pondering stage. I want to be an attractive woman to a man. I think (more so when dressed) how nice it would be to have a man treat me like a lady, to hold my hand, to feel his strong arms around me as we dance slowly. Yet I can't see myself going beyond that so I do get confused.

[Mickitv]

I believe that I am attracted to women dressed or not dressed. Although I have never been sexual with a woman dressed. I also believe that my attraction to men dressed or not dressed is growing as I am growing older.

[ArleneRaquel]

I bi-ness has become men & CD's only. Emphasis on the former. :)

[DebbieL]

When I was in Jr High and High School (11-18) I was strongly attracted to girls, because I wanted to BE one. I knew about sex, and had read many erotic stories, but picture of naked women didn't get me excited, pictures of women dressed in lingerie, or even skirts, and heels would be more arousing, because I would imagine myself dressed like that. I had a few sleepovers with friends who tried to make a pass at me. I told them I was flattered, and wanted to be their friends, but I didn't really want to get sexual. When I started kissing and petting with girls, I liked kissing and I loved getting them aroused and bringing them to orgasms, but I didn't want them to touch me. It was like I would imagine I was them and experience their pleasure.

More interesting is that over time, even though I liked women who dressed in the kinds of clothes I wanted to wear, the ones I got into long term relationships with were more "butch", often a bit heavier, and more aggressive. One was actually taking the pill because she was too masculine. When I first met my first wife, she and her best friend were both dressed like a pair of bull dykes. Even my one really feminine fiance had to get very aggressive to get into my pants, and had to tie me down before I could orgasm.

Today, I'm married to a woman who sings tenor, has a low voice, and can be feminine or masculine depending on her moods. She's more than woman enough for me, and more than man enough.

I think, after Debbie came out, that if I had met a man who was handsome and sexy and wanted me dressed and beautiful and sexy and would have been able to support me, I might have been very open to the possibility of a relationship with him. It had been so many years of zero support for Debbie, including a 9 year marriage in which my first wife did everything she could to suppress Debbie, to discourage or avoid sex, and to use it to manipulate me.

Fortunately, I was introduced to a woman who encouraged me and shared me with her lesbian friends. I fit right in.

When that relationship ended, I met another woman who liked Debbie but couldn't agree on where to live. She wanted the mountains and wilderness, I liked the city. After 16 years of seeing each other a few times a month for a few months a year, we finally ended it.

When I met my second wife, she knew from the moment she saw my profile that I was transgendered. I even told her that I was transsexual, but had decided not to transition because I didn't think I would have a good outcome (too tall, too big in the chest, voice too low...). She has used her strap-on, and I've enjoyed that, and there are times when she really does pay the man. It's a lot of fun.

I have done a 3 way with a woman and another man, but he wasn't all that attractive and I wasn't dressed. I had a great time, but after 4 hours of making love together, he got too tired, she got too sore, and I got bored. She wanted something really amazing so I tied her up and finished her off with a magic wand - while her husband watched her go into orgasms non-stop for about an hour. She finally begged me to stop and was totally satisfied. It was fun. I just wish I had been doing it as Debbie.

[Tashee]

I find myself with Me having a problem with putting myself in a gay/straight label. I consider this to be likend to a radio volume dial-The dial isnt hi low its a plethera of increases or decreases on its way to hi/low. Some will be on one or the other and some will find themselves on that dial somewhere-For me I shifted at times. Many issues may have caused this/ As I age I realize that this for me, is no big deal. Wherever I am on the dial of sexuality is where I supposed to be so I let it be.
The wonderful thing about this perspective is the freedom it grants me. Now its not a licence to lie and cheat--The opposite it is a chance to be open and honest with me//The loved ones around me.
Hope I'm on topic--Love you all!

[NathalieX66]

Bi-ness?
Yeah, by bi-genderness has evolved.......and now I can't make up my mind to shop for shoes & make up, or shop at Home Depot for table saw blades, and copper pipe.

[Angela Campbell]

To me men are ickie...........

[Terri Andrews]

like others have said ,when dressed as a female I am attracted to men ,but when dressed as a male it is only women for me. I really don`t understand this concept .
The first time I was with a man ,I had a lot of guilt ,but have gradually accepted that I am attracted to both.

[AllisontheGoddess]

I am aattracted to guys while en fem but women when in man mode 0.0

[LaraPeterson]

I've read all the posts in this thread and this could be very confusing to those who question what bisexuality really is. For me, and this is probably just a matter of semantics, I consider myself to be sexually dual. Some would just say I have become gay and maybe that's somewhat true. I know this, sometimes when I see certain women, they turn me on completely and I think I'd really like to be with her. At other times, when I see a really nice looking guy, the same thing happens.

Genetics determined what I am, a man. Even if I had SRS, breast implants, and take female hormones for the rest of my life, a simple genetic test would reveal the reality that I was born and will always be a man. My mind tells me something completely different, though. I think of myself as a woman, especially when dressed. Dressing heightens everything female, including sex drive. Since I don't have female sex organs, if I have sex with a man, it is homosexual sex plain and simple. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that is the way it is.

I have loved two women in my lifetime. Both are exquisite ladies. To date, I've never loved a man but I have really enjoyed being with a few men. If that makes me dictionary bi, then so be it. These labels we allow to be put upon us limit our life experience most of the time anyway. I am who I am, most of the time I'm satisfied with my dual personality. Sadly, I don't think there will ever be a complete resolution for me. But the future is bright.

[Sophia Frances]

Random thoughts:
This thread appears to be "bi" in that it asks for one thing and despite some folks calling out others for posting in it...people still are anyway.

To the folks who are in the "you either are bi or you aren't" camp, all I have to say is considering that many folks on this site identify with more than one gender...and those lines have been crossed...and in some cases purged, then crossed again...I think saying "I'm straight, but" is acceptable in some cases. Maybe someone WAS Bi, or is BI curious etc.. I know that either way...some folks still feel they shouldn't be in this thread!

Lastly, I am straight...however when I was dancing as Sophia in Las Vegas I was dancing with a group of women. I did not have sexual desires for any of them. In fact all I wanted was the guy in the group to grab me and twirl me around the dance floor. I did not want him sexually at all, but I could see how someone who felt as I did...the desire to be treated as a woman when dressed as one...could develop other fantasies that include sexual acts. For the record, I wanted a drink bought for me, a dance or two, I'd even allow an ass grab...but that would be it.

[NathalieX66]

Random thoughts:
This thread appears to be "bi" in that it asks for one thing and despite some folks calling out others for posting in it...people still are anyway.

To the folks who are in the "you either are bi or you aren't" camp, all I have to say is considering that many folks on this site identify with more than one gender...and those lines have been crossed...and in some cases purged, then crossed again...I think saying "I'm straight, but" is acceptable in some cases. Maybe someone WAS Bi, or is BI curious etc.. I know that either way...some folks still feel they shouldn't be in this thread!

Lastly, I am straight...however when I was dancing as Sophia in Las Vegas I was dancing with a group of women. I did not have sexual desires for any of them. In fact all I wanted was the guy in the group to grab me and twirl me around the dance floor. I did not want him sexually at all, but I could see how someone who felt as I did...the desire to be treated as a woman when dressed as one...could develop other fantasies that include sexual acts. For the record, I wanted a drink bought for me, a dance or two, I'd even allow an ass grab...but that would be it.

Believe it or not , sexuality is fluid.....it just is.

[whowhatwhen]

I think the main issue is the influx of people racing in here to say how straight they are, as if being bisexual or homosexual is lesser and or a bad thing.

[Kelli<3]

I think the main issue is the influx of people racing in here to say how straight they are, as if being bisexual or homosexual is lesser and or a bad thing.
Not me. I'm not sure exactly what I am. I posted about this before. If you must put a label on me I guess I'm bi. I am happily married and I am attracted to women, but I do have an attraction to some men. I haven't acted on this attraction and have never done anything with a man and probably never will.

[Kristyn Hill]

I would ravish any hot girl /gurl cd, tv, ts, bs, gd. ok, i got off track but you get the point. I grew up believing I was straight but wearing heels very young. I have come to terms with calling myself Bi. I am Bi. Nice to meet you. Never would of thought in a million years but I can't deny the world the hotness of Kristyn and all of her Kick Ass Heels.

If I sign Bi do I have to sign 2x?

[Badtranny]

I think the main issue is the influx of people racing in here to say how straight they are, as if being bisexual or homosexual is lesser and or a bad thing.

I know. This thread has had very few compared to others but it is baffling that someone would OPEN, and READ a thread specifically about people who identify as bisexual, and then POST a comment that contributes nothing except to let us know that they are NOT bisexual. It's just weird.

[jodie k]

just peeked in to find out what bi-ness was all about.
Oh that,,,was a bit many years ago; guess i still ponder it now, but keep my strictly fem relationships in video play...

[Anneliese]

I have only been with women. I have no desire to be with a manly man. HOWEVER, the thought of being with a beautiful woman who's a man down below is off-the-charts exciting. At this stage of my life, unless an opportunity literally falls into my lap, I think I'm done with standard M/F sex. Been there. Done that. Don't have the energy or desire. HOWEVER, if I could somehow be with a beautiful, passing CD or TS (top and bottom), there's no way I would turn down the opportunity. It's something I think about nearly every day. What does that make me? LOL.

[Erica Marie]

My "bi-ness" if you want to call it has only been the same. But for me I have no attraction to genetic male figures. I am attracted to other cd's and gg's. I guess I fit into the class mentioned in so many other threads "a lesbian in a male body". I have thought about it many times that if I were ever to transition I would still have an attraction to females. I guess I am a mixed bag of emotion, satisfied with who I am as a male in everyday life but there is still that one part missing.

[Anneliese]

By the way, I would want to be dressed myself while I was with the CD/TS. IMO that's "bi" wrapped up in one person. Ideally, that person would also want to be with a CD/TS while dressed. Best case scenario, both of us would be dressed 24/7. So a lesbian relationship with both having men's plumbing. Bi? (I'm not sure how I'd feel about it if I ever experienced it in real life, but it sure sounds nice ;-)

[FaithGrace]

For me, I am still only attracted to women, however, after seeing and meeting so many other beautiful t-girls, I am getting curious about being with some of them. I'm still only attracted to beautiful, sexy women, but I'm finding that some 'men' can make beautiful and sexy women too... I don't know if that makes me gay, bi, or what.

[SallyS]

I probably would be actively bi, if I had taken a different path. But unless my SO gives me her blessing to explore that side of my personality....getting near 'man parts' is off my radar.....for now:o

Besides which, I'd be far too 'fussy' in choosing the 'right' man!....not some overweight, undersexed, middle aged, executive, looking for a cheap thrill....no offence to all those decent, hard working, overweight executives:D

Being bi or gay just doesn't seem that big a deal these days, in many parts of the UK.....besides which, everyones at it!!!!!

[julia marie]

Golly. There's an awful lot of "defining" going on. Am I "straight" because I've only been with women and find I'm not attracted to most men. Yet, I'm curious about being with a guy (preferably when I'm dressed as a woman) and yes there are some guys I do find attractive, so does that make me gay? Does that move me from straight to bi on the continuum? Heck, does dressing as a woman and adopting a woman's characteristics (breast forms, walking, etc) actually move me partway from straight to bi, considering it isn't an "accepted" mode of behavior. Let's lose the labels and enjoy life. I'll continue to admire beautiful women (in fact, most women), and I'll continue to be jealous of how good they look. If it turns out that I meet someone and we are mutually attracted to each other (and the situation is safe) I'll see what happens whether they are female or male. I don't have to tattoo the words straight, gay or bi to my forehead. Relax. enjoy and where something silky.

[DesireeFl]

When I am "guy" mode I am not attracted to guys at all...but when I am dressed up its an entirely different story, I really like and enjoy a beautiful tgirl or Cd and also GGs, I am really picky about guys though...not so much into hairy men. So with that being said I would def consider myself Bi, but only when I am dressed...does that make any sense?

[Marie-Elise]

I am wondering if anyone under 30 is following this thread. I am finding that people under 30 don't even care about labels like "bi" as much as people my age (45) do. In my personal experience, it looks like a guy being attracted to guys, girls or both is tantamount to some guys having a preference for legs or redheads.

So, before I get accused of hiding behind that answer, I should say that the older I get, the more I don't care. I have said from the time I was a teenager that, if I find a guy attractive, I probably want to have sex with him. The fact is that I have yet to find a guy attractive. I have found some of the gurls here when they are dressed up attractive. But then, it is the ones that would easily pass. So what does that make me? I can answer that: It makes me someone who will have sex with whomever he is attracted to.

[DesireeFl]

"I can answer that: It makes me someone who will have sex with whomever he is attracted to"

Love that quote... I feel the same way and I'm not to far behind you at 41.

[SandraV]

Labels, labels... why must we attach a label to everything?

Let me see, I find myself attracted to women, and being dressed brings to light my curiosity of being with a man. What does that make me?

In reality, the more I explore this side of myself the more I realize I am bi. While I have never acted on it, I know my curiosity would lead me too if the situation were to present itself. That said, I doubt I ever will, since I doubt my SO would care for the idea... :D

Who knows. I'll be happy when I figure things out for myself and my SO as to how to live with my CDing and TG feelings :battingeyelashes: . Why worry about what label to place on myself?

[LisaHeartfilia]

I guess you could say I'm having this dilemma right now actually. It's been a while since I've dressed, but while I am dressed, I seem to prefer guys more. Seems that's seeping out to while I'm not dressed too. Guess I'm bi, and didn't know it possibly?

[Amy R Lynn]

I am wondering if anyone under 30 is following this thread. I am finding that people under 30 don't even care about labels like "bi" as much as people my age (45) do. In my personal experience, it looks like a guy being attracted to guys, girls or both is tantamount to some guys having a preference for legs or redheads.

So, before I get accused of hiding behind that answer, I should say that the older I get, the more I don't care. I have said from the time I was a teenager that, if I find a guy attractive, I probably want to have sex with him. The fact is that I have yet to find a guy attractive. I have found some of the gurls here when they are dressed up attractive. But then, it is the ones that would easily pass. So what does that make me? I can answer that: It makes me someone who will have sex with whomever he is attracted to.

Hmmm, I'm 34. I couldn't have said it any better than Marie-Elise has here. But I still don't really know what label that puts us unnder. And to be honest, I really could care less. Just be who you are, and don't worry about what label you fall into.