I Hate the GAY Reputation I Got for Buying Many Women’s Clothes…

[KateSpade83]

My first purchase of anything women’s, was in H.S. when dad lent me the car and I went to Kohl’s to buy my first skirt. I didn’t know the size and ended up buying something too small for my waist. Anyway the first bad karma happened when I bought this skirt – it was like an angel or spy woman was following me and was gonna destroy my life for becoming a crossdresser, but a man angel was following her and telling her –“He’s just a kid! And the skirt’s not even his size!” My mom later confiscated the skirt.

Next time I tried buying women’s clothes was in Jr year college. I was driving to Champaign Urbana from Chicago and I knew there was a mall above Kankakee, maybe Bourbonaise? Well, I went into the JCPenny and had my eye on my first skirt suit. As I was guessing the size to buy I guess I heard a women’s [devil's] voice say, “Follow your heart’s desire.” Now at that moment I was thinking if I bought this skirt suit my future life of many friends and being rich would not happen, - that crossdressing would destroy my life. But I went ahead with the temptation to buy the skirt suit and I couldn’t believe that crossdressing would negatively affect my life. Then after I bought the skirt suit a car ahead of me with women – one of them took off their panties and threw it out the window – maybe that was a signal to me that I need panties plus it also was a bad omen – like somehow people would know I crossdress.

And in the end crossdressing in college did HURT ME. My SR Design project partners found my stash of women’s clothes in my Apt and then they started treating me as gay. Plus they also were trying to blackmail me into doing all the project work or else they’ll squeal on me to everyone. In the end they hurt my project work so badly that I got a C in Sr Design class project, and I feel jobs later in the industry look at that and then dismiss me as not being a capable engineer. Like I don’t know why when I interviewed at GE Healthcare in WI there was a man walking up and he said I was dumb… And two times in two other companies GERMAN Engineers called me stupid… I’m not stupid and I did some great engineering projects successfully in college, better than the other students but that’s a long story.

But now almost EVERY JOB after college - they all figured out I was “gay.” I don’t mess around or have sex with men, but simply because I crossdress – they call me gay. And being called gay really has hurt me in my social life as people ostracize me and it’s hard making new friends. I lost many jobs because low life factory workers would feel better to put me down and call me gay. I show respect to everyone and never gossip a bad word about anyone but when a factory worker does this to me I consider them a LOW LIFE.

It seemed every workplace I worked, either people gossiped about me or I suspect they had people spying on me after work and found out I buy women’s clothes. Now, currently, I’m 4 years unemployed and at those rare times I got an interview – there would be some people who thought I was a nerd or gay. I don’t have nerd mannerisms, - that’s another way they insult crossdressers.

So to avoid this big gay reputation I got, I think at the start I should have dressed up with a good wig and makeup to be very passable and shop as a woman. I discovered my passability and ability to shop and pass as a woman in August 2006. So then often if I went to shop for women’s clothes I would be dressed as a woman. I did this whenever I went to a new city. But then I got tired of this and went to shopping as a man. And if I dressed as a woman I couldn't hit on a pretty women so I went back to shopping as a man.

So now I’m half & half for shopping as a woman. When I was buying a nice woman’s swimsuit at Village two women far behind me were making fun of me. Other times it made me feel funny buying that nice Catholic Schoolgirl skirt and they just know it’s for your gay fetish… So I shopped my latest Village 50% Off Thrift Sale as a woman… Passed 95% off the time, but those rare 5% of people just know how to detect you and they said, “That’s a man!”

So here’s my advice to newbies… If you want to avoid a gay reputation… Work on being passable with your look ASAP and then shop as a woman.

How about you? What’s your reputation for buying a lot of women’s clothes? How did it affect jobs and your social life?

My life sucks now… Only happiness is in my big bike and women’s clothes collection.

[Jorja]

So, you have a voice and I would think you know how to speak up for yourself. Simply speak up and say, No I am not gay (if in fact you are not gay), I just like womens clothing. Simple as that.

[flatlander_48]

The thing is that the notion that crossdressers are necessarily gay is VERY entrenched in our society. However, the question is how much effort do we want to invest in debating the point?

[famousunknown]

And being called gay really has hurt me in my social life as people ostracize me and it’s hard making new friends. I lost many jobs because low life factory workers would feel better to put me down and call me gay.

Sounds like you have some serious issues with gay people or people thinking you might be gay. And four years unemployed? Might be time to lower your job standards and flip a few burgers.

[prettytoes]

I have never had any problems buying women's clothing. I buy very girly satin string bikinis, nighties, bras, knee high socks, nail polish, etc., etc., etc. I just pick out what I want and walk up the the register with confidence. If you act nervous and skittish, you will draw unwanted attention to yourself.

The only comment I ever had was from a very attractive (and young) SO at the register who said the pajama sets and panties I was buying were cute. I go to her register whenever she is there, and she always gives me a very nice smile...I'm pretty sure she knows; and she seems to think it's pretty cool.

It makes me happy to wear women's clothes. I feel relaxed and comfortable. I do keep it in the privacy of my home, other than underdressing (I only own women's underwear). Nobody needs to know besides my wife and me.

[Anne2345]

What do you care if people think you are gay or not? I mean, you have no problem going out dressed en femme in public, so you evidently don't care if people know you are a crossdresser. And probably most people who see you out you do not know, or will not ever meet and be around anyways. So why bother caring about it? Really, it's just as silly as a gay person worrying that others will think he or she is a crossdresser just because they are gay. So f'ing what??!! It's your life. From what I see, you are doing a fine job doing it your way, so why create negative energy and worry within yourself for something that doesn't matter anyways? Plus, I've got news for you: the gay community is much more accepted in society than the transgender community. I'm just saying. You're the low chick on the totem pole. Yet another reason not to care . . . .

[Cynthia Anne]

I let people think what they want! I can think of a lot of things that would be worst then being called gay! Even some of my redneck friends think I'm gay! They still come around and are still friends! I always dress as female when I shop!

[GeminaRenee]

You seem awfully fixated on gayness - for someone who isn't.

Being gay or bi or straight or wearing women's clothes or dressing up in furry animal suits aren't going to bring you bad luck in life, nor are they going to ruin your career. Elton John and Marv Albert seem to be doing just fine.

Maybe your crossdressing is just a convenient scapegoat for your mediocre academic performance, or your apparent lack of employability. I really doubt the greater Chicagoland area is bustling with a network of spies focused on observing your shopping activities, and then passing along the dirt to prospective employers.

If I were you, I'd take a long, hard look at the real reasons you seem to be failing to perform as expected. I'd also learn to love yourself a little more instead of simmering in all this guilt and self-loathing that your posts froth with.

And stop worrying so much about those abominable gays. They're doing just fine without you.

[Ressie]

I don't know if anyone knows and gossips about my shopping. I might be interesting to know what people say. It seems the more I dress, my personality becomes a little more fem. Anyway, what about shopping online if you're worried about it? Maybe look for employers that are gay or CD friendly?

[Paige Winslow]

I was recently answering questions from a male MAC employee. And one was how I dealt with all the gay crossdressers. I'm not sure he believed me when I said we generally are heterosexual.

[Amy R Lynn]

I think your mixing a couple different issues in your life with Cross Dressing. You do seem very worried that people think you are gay. People will always have opinions. The one thing that I have learned is to have a thick skin and own who you are. Don't let them bother you. If someone says something to you just say something smart back like "Why are you interested?" When they say no (Or an awkward yes) say "Well I'm certainly not interested in you!". You can't let the get to you and crush your self esteem. And so what if they think you're gay. Let em wonder! You know what turns you on. Just go after the pretty hottie, and let them wonder.

As for the job. If you are dressing at work I could see why that could be an issue. Especially if you aren't passing it off as a woman or only dressing part of the time. If you don't dress at work, then I don't see the connetion with your inability to gain employment.

I would say that if an eployer called me stupid in the interview, I wouldn't want to work for them anyway. That would be a sign of a hostile work environment. I would even consider calling the BBB on them. I also agree that you may need to lower your job expectations and maybe flip a burger or spin a pizza. You could even get a job at a retail store and get a discount on clothes (just shop at another branch on the far side of town). But having a job even a minimum wage job, looks far better than going into an interview with a four year gap of being unemployed.

I hope you don't think of me as being harsh. I really only give you my opinion to help. I wish you nothing but the best. Keep your head up and be proud of what you have done. You went to school (sounds like you graduated college), that is an accomplishent in of itself. You seem very accepting of your dressing, and that is something to be proud of as well! Look for the positives. They are there. Don't let the negative things derail you.

[Julie Gaum]

Kate: Without knowing all the details my summary upon reading your story is in a nutshell (in my opinion) is here is a CD with all the engineerng qualifications in that you earned your shingle, regardless of grades, with very low esteem. As noted above if you were gay and 6 feet tall with your degree in hand I bet you would have received job offers by now. You may do even better landing a job if you provided your qualifications, presented to a company as female and said you were in transition. So what? Many companies want to show their diversity standards are high and here is another reason to hire you. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and count your numerous
blessings.
Julia

[Wildaboutheels]

Guess what. ALL Gays are Humans. And a recent Q seems to indicate that most seem to be quite normal people. WOW. Imagine that.

ALL CDers are also Humans now matter how far they go in dressing whether they leave their house or not.

Translated? IF you are presenting yourself "dressed" to the world, it's inevitable that someone, sooner or later, is going to ask you THE question. And their reason for asking makes no difference.

IF you are unable or unwilling to DEFEND Gay people you really shouldn't be hitting the streets "dressed" IMO.

[Karren H]

How about you? What’s your reputation for buying a lot of women’s clothes? How did it affect jobs and your social life?

My life sucks now… Only happiness is in my big bike and women’s clothes collection.

I never went and asked anyone when I was buying women's clothing..... like I give a $h!t what they think!.... ohh did I mention my son is gay..... he doesn't seem to have a problem with it.... from your posts.... it appears that you think your life sucks because you either make it suck or you want it to suck.... or both.... imho.....

[Paige Winslow]

I'd rather be gay. In today's world, it's something to brag about. People slap you on the back and say congratulations! At least you know who to sleep with and what to wear to bed.

[Vickie_CDTV]

The fact you can't get find a job probably has more to do the fact we are in a depression with a worldwide financial disaster looming than you being suspected of being gay. Big companies are not hiring because they are worried about what is going to happen in the near future, if I were in their position I would be scared to death to take on new people too. It is a buyer's market and if they have to hire it will be only the best of the best and at bargain prices.

However, I don't doubt you could be discriminated against if people think you are gay at work, it is one reason to keep one's personal life and work as separate as possible. Do you tell them you dress, or do they think you are gay because of your voice or mannerisms en drab?

[Beverley Sims]

Are you beating yourself around the head in self pity?
Hold your head up high and go out and do it.
You do not have to think you are not a success.

[Sharon B.]

When I first started to buy womans clothes for myself, I use the section in a JCPenny's or Sears catalog to figure out my size and went from there.
If that was my only problem people thinking I was gay I would take that as a complainant, as they are more accepted in the work place and community than crossdressers.

[Kimberlyfaye]

I just go into a shop and buy whatever I want. I've taken all sorts to the checkout. Lingerie, swimwear, dresses, tops, skirts, you name it. 99% of the time I look around the womens section. I will usually use the 'gift' excuse if asked. Generally they've never asked, most of the time they only say if it doesn't fit you can exchange it. Admittedly I've never shopped en femme but that's because I don't have the confidence to. I applaud any of you who do that.

Also, like others have said, you shouldn't care what other people think of you. Live the way you want to live and all that matters is how you see yourself. My SO tells me that. I only wish I could follow her advice.

As for being gay, I've spoken to a GG friend about this a few days ago. In my opinion if I wanted to attract a gay male (who is interested in males), would my plan be to dress as a woman? I might be wrong but I don't think alot of gay men would be interested in someone who appears to be female. Just my thoughts.

[Jamie Ann]

My initial reaction is to wish that you hadn’t had all the trouble you apparently have had; however, my second reaction is to recall that the home to the annual Chicago Be-All is one of the LGBT-friendliest states in the US. Crossdressing per se is not likely to ruin someone’s life (see http://www.lambdalegal.org/states-regions/illinois?gclid=CIvL6u6F1rICFQTNnAodSwcAYw).

In addition, the premise that people will think you are bad because they think you are gay seems to reflect some anti-gay sentiments that you may need to work on. If you were gay, then you still could find plenty of employment and plenty of friends — unless there are other underlying problems. Of course, the US was losing 800,000 jobs per month in 2007 through 2009; so employment problems were serious and continue to be troublesome, whether one is a crossdresser or a non-crossdresser, female or male, gay or straight. That now shows signs of turning around — knock on wood! The point is that a crossdresser who loses a job may have been a victim of other factors over which she had little control — not of crossdressing.

If you go out in public crossdressed, then you almost certainly will be recognized as a crossdresser by many people. As a practical matter, the only answer is to smile, be friendly, treat people well, dress appropriately for the situation, and refuse to take offense if someone says, “Hey, that’s a man!” There are non-passable crossdressers who get along just fine. Accept yourself; accept others (even if they’re gay); treat people right; and you will win most people over.

[~Joanne~]

When I shop, I don't look around to see if there are spies following me, if there are I would ask them to come hold my items while I look or push my cart . In fact, there are not. I think your mind is playing head games with you and as others have stated it seems you have some personal issues , other than CDing, that you need to work out. I understand it may be depression and this may be the reason you are feeling this way. Maybe seeing a doctor or therapist may help you gain control of your well being and get your life back on track.

Buying your clothes, because I don't like calling them women's clothes, or wearing them freely has nothing to do with your run of bad luck. As Vickie stated, things are really bad out there and even worse thing to come on just on the horizon. Get a lower paying job as stated till you get the job you want. just because you take something that you feel is beneath you doesn't mean your stuck there or that you shouldn't keep looking.

As for the whole gay thing, I don't know. I think you do have a few phobias you need to over come. Look at it this way, what they think and what they know are two different things. Who cares what they think? certainly you shouldn't.

I wish you all the best

[kimdl93]

OK, so your life sucks - today. What are you going to do to change that?

[Marleena]

I rather have a gay reputation than a pervert in a dress reputation. If you out yourself you'll be called or thought of as gay. It goes with the territory. I think you brought a lot of this on yourself. You need to learn from it.

[Butterfly Bill]

Probably all the people in my neighborhood have concluded that I am gay, and they have all decided to tolerate that group of people, judging from the way they treat me. And I just let them go on thinking that.

And do you really have to live in Chicago? You could go to places like Austin or Asheville or numerous places in California, and find a more tolerant environment. (You could even move to Muskogee, where I live.) I agree with the others, it does look to me like your problems are more than just crossdressing.

[Alice Torn]

The problem with being unemployed, is not enough money to move away. Its a bummer. I, like you, tend to be very paranoid, and ultra sensitive, about people, and surroundings. You and i both need thicker skins, and teflon. We need therapy, or support, and help to overcome paranoia, and self defeat. It is not easy, but possible. You have more guts than i do! I still can't go out that door outside dressed, even though i did years ago. One day at a time.

[cyndigurl45]

Thinking I was gay way back in the beginning, I just didn't care, there were many a time I would by stuff with my BF and if we got a weird look I would simply say OH yes I'm gay so what besides my BF wants to take me to dinner do you think this skirt or dress or?? matches these shoes and should I wear my hair up or down.........

[Aprilrain]

it will all get easier once you finnally just admit it to yourself!

[Cary]

Kate

OMG! It's been awhile. It seems that you've already won a major part of the battle that alot of us crossdressers face, going out dressed and passing as a woman. Congrats! I have yet to do either. That said. Crossdressing is not your problem! I would recommend that you think about talking with a professional about whats on your mind and what you are going through. This could help you through your anger among other things. Remember most times we are our own worst enemy. We block ourself from life success. Great Luck to you.

[MicheleCooper]

When I started to get tats back in the late 80s early 90s, my boss made the comment that police could id me by my tats. I am not a criminal.
Walking down the street and having people grab their children and walk across the street to avoid me and my tats...Not a pedo or rapist.
Not in either case did I ever try to deny or explain myself...people will think what they want to think. If they think you or I are gay for wearing women's clothing who cares - for all we know is they like to screw the pooch every Friday night. Am I going to spy to find out, nope have other things to do than to worry about other people's lives.
If a person wants to judge a book by its cover - let them they are more than likely missing out on knowing someone who could be their friend. As momma always said, "when it comes to explanations your friends don''t require them and your enemies will never believe them!"

Oh you might want to rethink the whole thing of people are following you to find out if you are gay, or a cross dresser...that is a bit paranoid. I really do think they have other things to do than to find out if you are doing those things.
Man following - "Yeah honey, going to be late for dinner. Yeah me and the guys have a suspicion this guy might be gay or one of those cross dresser. Yeah I know little Timmy needs help with his homework, but we have to find this out - I mean if he is one of those things he might go Al Qaeda on us and destroy the American way of life...yes hon I am saluting!"

[Tammy V]

Most crossdressers are in fact heterosexual. When I was identified as a cd I got that as well and now that I am transitioning and identify as a female (ts) with a boyfriend I get it even more but nothing could be furthur from the truth.

[Angela Campbell]

When I was married (both times) I bought clothes for my wives and kids all the time. No one ever questioned me about it at all.

[Sara Jessica]

Being gay or bi or straight or wearing women's clothes or dressing up in furry animal suits....

Now don't be bringing Anne into this. I'm waiting to see the first entry in the squirrel section. I hope she wears something cute. ;)


OMG! It's been awhile. It seems that you've already won a major part of the battle that alot of us crossdressers face, going out dressed and passing as a woman...

Yes, 95% of the time, just ask her. Heck, that's much better than "4 out of 5 doctors surveyed...". I'm lucky to pass 5% of the time.


Seriously, what is the point in worrying about what others think? But when it comes to your career Kate, it seems that you are fixated on blaming your unemployment on a perception of being gay. Helllllooooo, we have plenty of employed gay people in our society and they are just like everyone else, hired on their merits. So if you focus on your own merits, the rest (as in a job) should surely follow.

[Brianna612]

When I shop, I don't look around to see if there are spies following me, if there are I would ask them to come hold my items while I look or push my cart .

Great idea, when I'm in the mood to shop my load gets heavy. I could use a spy to hold my girlie things, just send them my way. Imagine big strong manly men in black suits holding a bunch of girlie things for me.:heehee:

This is all in your head.
Find a good therapist and go to them.
You need a serious amount of self confidence.

[Rachel Morley]

How about you? What’s your reputation for buying a lot of women’s clothes? How did it affect jobs and your social life?
How about me? Well .. I have bought literally tons of women's clothes in boy mode all my life and I have never felt like people must think I am gay because they are women's ones, let alone actually have someone clearly indicate or tell me that that's what they actually thought about me.

I also agree with some of the other comments, the fact you are making such a big deal out of being perceived as gay probably means you have an issue with that. Are you homophobic?

[whowhatwhen]

I think my entire family just assumes I'm gay, but neither I or they really care too much about it so it's business as usual.
(I'm attracted to guys, but I'm not going into the gay man or straight woman thing over that :P)

Just remember that if someone calls you gay it doesn't mean you need to go out and manbone the first guy you see, just keep moving and don't let strangers assign your sexual orientation.
Other than that gay people in general are pretty cool, it's not like they're lepers or anything.

It is 2012 after all...

[Launa]

When things don't go right for you in life, the easy thing to do is "point the finger" insted of looking at what did I do to get myself to this destination and what good qualities do I bring to the table.
I damn glad I have my gay friends, they helped push me out the door and into public places.

[Jocelyn Quivers]

How about you? What’s your reputation for buying a lot of women’s clothes? How did it affect jobs and your social life?



Basically my rep when buying women's clothes in male mode is that I'm gay, and a lot of my friends joke about me being gay, or being a woman. Even though my wife is with me 95% of the time when buying women's clothes I guess I just give off the gay male shoppping friend vibe.:thinking:

[LeannL]

Kate,

Are you still interviewing dress en femme? I know you have written about wanting to do it. Now you have every right to do it if you want but you also need to realize that, legal or not, people can discriminate against you when you are applying for a job and no easily get called out for it. So, you have to decide what is more important to you: going to an interview in a skirt suit or being employed.

Most non-defense related companies will not do a background check that will seek to understand your sexual or gender history. Nor will they send out anyone to follow you around to find what kind of clothing you are buying. Their background checks these days look at you credit rating, you employment history, and, maybe your presence on the Internet. That's it. They don't have the time or money to do more.


WRT the gay issue: relax. You have to get comfortable with yourself first. If you need to see a therapist, do so. Employers will detect issues such as being too uptight even if they don't know why. It is hard to work on one's problems without a job so you may be in a circular dilemma - need a job for therapy and need therapy to get a job. With the specific issue about gayness, all of us are different and that difference is going to rub someone the wrong way. However, we (CDs/TSs/TGs) need to be as understanding of other's differences as much as anyone. For all intents and purposes, we are probably at the top of the most misunderstood/disliked minority (save maybe Muslims) in the USA today. We cannot afford for individual and community reasons to be negative about any other group. We need to positive about ourselves and others. Otherwise, people will see us in a negative light, realize that we are unhappy and believe that it is because we are bod people doing bad things.

So, Kate, get your act together by stepping back, deciding what is important, relax and go after it with a positive attitude.

[bimini1]

Judging from the types of stuff that continuously happens to you I'd say some more than meets the physical eye is going on. Devils or demons I do not know, but folks throwing panties out of cars at you? That's weird alright. If you believe in Angels then the flip side of the coin could definitely be operating against you. I've followed your posts thru the years and have had similar stuff happen to the point of am I losing a grip on reality. These entities are real and only you can decipher what they are telling you.

[Bree-asaurus]

I don't really have anything to add because I think you got some good advice here, but I just have to ask one thing:

What's so horrible about being gay? Why is being thought of as gay something to defend yourself against? Does sexual preference make some people lesser than others?

[Marleena]

I'm with Bree on this one.


I don't really have anything to add because I think you got some good advice here, but I just have to ask one thing:

What's so horrible about being gay? Why is being thought of as gay something to defend yourself against? Does sexual preference make some people lesser than others?

[bimini1]

Hell, Gay is alot more accepted than this (cd).

[skirtsuit]

pervert in a dress

Hey! I resemble that remark.


I never went and asked anyone when I was buying women's clothing..... like I give a $h!t what they think!.... ohh did I mention my son is gay..... he doesn't seem to have a problem with it.... from your posts.... it appears that you think your life sucks because you either make it suck or you want it to suck.... or both.... imho.....

Thank you Karen. The web is a bad place to seek counseling, imho

Best,
SS

[Jodi]

I have been a member here long enough to remember when Kate was on here under another name. At that time, she admitted to being diagnosed as paranoid and was court ordered counselling and treatment.

I guess the paranoia is still present.

Jodi

[ArleneRaquel]

There is nothing wrong being gay, and people will believ whatever they they want to believe, no matter what the facts are.

[KateSpade83]

Famousunknown - I don’t need to work a burger flipping job because my $1135 monthly SSDI is more than a minimum wage job @ 40 hrs a week

All of you – I’d rather be known as a straight crossdresser, and not called gay. It’s a world of difference in societal esteem that you’re the type that does not have sex with men. So they can’t call you a cocksucker. Being called a nerd is harmless compared to being called gay.

Being called gay in the workplace is deadly, as there still is a lot of discrimination against gays. That’s why my jobs didn’t last long, go perm, or I wasn’t hired despite aceing an interview.

Dee3 – I shop everywhere… Online or in store. Not many mfg employers are gay friendly, as engineering is “a man’s world.”

Karren Hutton – My life simply sucks now because I’m long terms unemployed at 4 years and I faced discrimination in employment simply because I’ve been unemployed so long. So life is on hold, - like I can’t afford dating a pretty girl and now I’m 43 and unmarried still.

Vickie_CDTV – I try to keep cding secret at every workplace, but bad gossip always pops up. As a guy I don’t have any gay or sissy mannerism.

Miss Joanna – I don’t look out for company spies when I shop, but when gossip pops up in the workplace that I’m gay or a nerd or a crossdresser, - this just makes me suspect there were company spies following me.

Kimdl93 – I keep applying for jobs and I’m starting to do some money making ventures.

Brianna612 – I already see a psych to get my meds for schizophrenia, but they don’t offer any good advice about the crossdressing / gay problem. They more just listen to what I say. And I don’t have a self confidence problem much; my only problem is being unemployed and that hurts my confidence in dating a woman.

Rachel Morley – I’m not homophobic but I don’t hang around gay people or have gay friends because their gay karma and influence will spread to you.

LeannL – I only went once to a Job Fair in a skirt suit to show off to the Secret Service that I’m a dual looks capable person. Otherwise, I go to all my interviews in a man’s suit.

Bimini1 – yes, I sense there are people with “the 6th sense” out there, - maybe they’re spiritually gifted or demon possessed to tell if you’re a crossdreesser or not. I’ve gone to places where nobody knows me and yet these people had the 6th sense to read me out, even when I was very passable.

Bree-asaurus – if you are gay then you can’t hang out with the DUDES, because they think you’re a cocksucker. Gays are looked down upon by the “in crowd” of people. Only exceptional gays have a good social life or acceptance because they do something exceptional – like Elton John is famous for singing.

Jodi – It’s kind of a blessing and curse that I’m slightly paranoid schizophrenic. This disability easily got me SSDI and I can retire early or count on SSDI if I have long term unemployment. But I don’t want to rely on SSDI, but at least I also have the free health insurance that comes with it [Medicare].

My paranoid episodes all concerned crossdressing, God, and that crossdressing is a cursed activity. But God doesn’t bless me with the success and wealth in life that I need to be worthy of dating a pretty enough woman.

[Bree-asaurus]

Rachel Morley – I’m not homophobic but I don’t hang around gay people or have gay friends because their gay karma and influence will spread to you.

Umm... you totally just contradicted yourself there.


Bree-asaurus – if you are gay then you can’t hang out with the DUDES, because they think you’re a cocksucker. Gays are looked down upon by the “in crowd” of people. Only exceptional gays have a good social life or acceptance because they do something exceptional – like Elton John is famous for singing.

Umm... yeah... no. Maybe gays are looked down on by the douchebags YOU look up to and want to be friends with.

Totally glad I see your true colors though. You're the first homophobe I've seen in a looooong time.

[Miranda-E]

Im not homophobic but I don’t hang around gay people or have gay friends because their gay karma and influence will spread to you.

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Um, wow. just wow.
I don't even know where to start on that homophobic statement.

Edit: I do know where to start. don't try to hide behind the "I'm not homophobic" crap. At least have the guts to stand up and own your constant and unending bigoted anti-gay statements.


But God doesn’t bless me with the success and wealth in life that I need to be worthy of dating a pretty enough woman.

and as far as you're misogynist crap, nothing needs to be said.

[famousunknown]

Rachel Morley – I’m not homophobic but I don’t hang around gay people or have gay friends because their gay karma and influence will spread to you.

Yeah, it's kinda like cooties?

[Anita_2]

Notion that crossdressers are necessarily gay is very entrenched in our society. But:
1. All gays I know are not CD - simply they have no interest for women or womens dress they are interesed in man.
2. I always think that CD is in one part fetish of women - so that is my answer for another people - gay have no interest for womens fetish
3. Today there is lot of fridom for gay and lesbian only CD is steel under cover I am asking myself why

Sorry for my english but only one question - do you have a big motor bike are you biker?

[Sandra]

This thread is done.

Kate you've been here long enough to know what is allowed on this forum, and some of the comments in your last post you know dam well are against the rules.