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whowhatwhen
09-28-2012, 01:48 PM
Okay, so my therapist and I discussed yesterday planning how to come out to my family.
I liked her suggestion of writing out what I wanted to say along with possible responses to questions and I wondered what suggestions you all may have.

Obviously the hardest part, the introduction is the hardest part and I still need to figure out how to say it, but I do have the possible Q/A stuff done.



Introduction:
// TODO:
// Write me!

Possible questions/responses:

Q: Do you want to be a woman?
A: It's not so much "want to be", as it is "am I?"

Q: When did this start?
A: It's always been there, and after years of trying to put it away I've realized that I must accept and come to terms with it as part of myself.

Q: Are you gay?
A: I can find both sexes physically attractive to some degree, but at this point I won't say anything 100% in either direction until I have more experience.

Q: Why can't you be happy as a man?
A: I wish I could, if I did I would be $1200+ richer and not opening up myself to tons of stress and potential hurt. Besides, being a man feels fake, like I'm only doing it because I'm expected to and I would rather express myself as I really am on the inside.

Q: A woman?
A: There is a definite and permanent female component to myself. Part of the reason I started seeing a therapist was to see if it's just a part of myself or it actually is myself.

Q: Did your therapist put you up to this?
A: That's not how therapy works for gender issues, no therapist would try to tell you who or what you are. She is there for me to talk to and support me as I discover for myself, and I owe my reduced stress level and better health to her being there.

Q: Is that why you're growing your hair, carrying a purse, and had your ears pierced?
A: Yes. Though the last two have nothing to do with gender as much as they are being comfortable and in control of myself despite the potential negativity of others.

Q: So you're going to start wearing women's clothes now?
A: Eventually, but I need to be more confident in my appearance as female before I allow myself. Likely it will be after a few facial hair removal sessions and my hair has grown out a bit more.

Q: Do you plan on going out in public like that?
A: Yes. I'm not planning on living my life around the opinions of strangers, I do not plan on looking like a man solely for the benefit of people I don't know and will never see again.

Q: I guess I'm not getting any grandchildren then?
A: That's not necessarily true, but personally I've never really had any interest in being a father regardless. Sorry.

Q: Is this my fault?
A: No, things just don't work that way and it was just an unfortunate roll of the dice that I was born male. You raised me very well up here (*point to head*), my body is not anyone's fault.


What do you think?
Are there any places to improve, or, what did you experience trying to come out to family?

I'm hoping to do this within a week or so, it's going to be impossible to move forward unless I stop lying to them. Plus I want to start voice training and there isn't a good lie anywhere to explain that away.
:P

kimdl93
09-28-2012, 02:00 PM
Save up some sperm...you never know when your attitude about kids may change.

Saffron
09-28-2012, 02:20 PM
I'm going out soon, just to my mom for now, and I've been preparing too.

I can tell you what's on my list:

-The day you come out you must assure that they will have the day off so they can take the time to process and ask you all the questions.
-Also don't do it if they are stressed that day. Talking to a stressed person is always going to be a disaster.
-Tell them straightforward, be clear and secure.
-If you have doubts with a particulary person, try to talk about it before coming out. E.g. watch brokeback mountain with him and talk about gay relationships.
-Don't arge with them, just tell them your situation and respond their questions. If someone try to defy you it's better to ignore.
-Be prepared for incredulity.
-Be prepared for crying.
-Stay calm.
-You know it's for the best.


Save up some sperm...you never know when your attitude about kids may change.

That's a good advice.

whowhatwhen
10-03-2012, 08:56 PM
Save up some sperm...you never know when your attitude about kids may change.

IIRC It doesn't last very long in the freezer, the professional ones I mean.
Not the kitchen freezer, not next to the steak and ice cubes.

If my attitude were to change I feel adoption would be a better option, I know the base instinct is to spread ourselves around but I'd feel a bit selfish making my own when there are so many others left without a loving home.


I'm going out soon, just to my mom for now, and I've been preparing too.

I can tell you what's on my list:

-The day you come out you must assure that they will have the day off so they can take the time to process and ask you all the questions.
-Also don't do it if they are stressed that day. Talking to a stressed person is always going to be a disaster.
-Tell them straightforward, be clear and secure.
-If you have doubts with a particulary person, try to talk about it before coming out. E.g. watch brokeback mountain with him and talk about gay relationships.
-Don't arge with them, just tell them your situation and respond their questions. If someone try to defy you it's better to ignore.
-Be prepared for incredulity.
-Be prepared for crying.
-Stay calm.
-You know it's for the best.



That's a good advice.

Thank you for your input, have you thought about how you were going to bring it up?
I've been racking (word?) my brain for the past few days but cannot think of a good way to bring this up.

My mom is going away for a few days as a mini vacation, I'm going to clean the house like mad in the hopes it puts her in a better mood.
I know there is never a good time for these sort of things, and in fact, that's exactly what my therapist told me but every time feels like the worst possible time.

The other day she was really upset at a lot of things and said "What else wrong is going to happen to me?" and I instantly felt like a huge prick for even thinking about bringing up my gender identity issues.
How can I do this to her?

Bah, nothing ever is easy eh?

Saffron
10-04-2012, 04:23 AM
I've come out already. I think it's best to put it bluntly. I just said it to her, you can check my story here: http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?181865-I-ve-come-out-to-my-mother

One thing is not to tell when she's angry, but if you're waiting for the perfect occassion, it'll never happen.

Good luck.

Jorja
10-04-2012, 09:00 AM
People that you feel you need to tell will have their good times and bad times. You cannot control this. It should not be your mission to even attempt to control it. You need to ask yourself a few questions. Is coming out a necessity? How important is it for that person to know your plans? By not telling this person, how will it affect you? Once you have the answers, all you can do is pick a time and tell. With parents and other "older" people, it may be wise to feel them out and see how they are feeling at that time. Use your head here. If they just had a heart attack, it probably isn't the best time to tell them. On the other hand, you can't wait forever if it is important to you. There is never a good time to tell someone. You just have to do it and let the chips fall where they may.

~Seana~
10-04-2012, 01:56 PM
For me it was the easiest coming out ever. Every person of importance that doesnt live WITH me, died. My Mom, dad, even my Ex all died within a 4 year period. The period I was transitioning. Made coming out somewhat bittersweetly easy.

I have a trans girlfriend though and i watched her do it step by step and to me that's an excellent approach. Dont ever try and tell more than one person at a time.Consider the feelings and point of view of each person you are coming out to make your plan . It's more about you, than anyone else. Be prepared for lots of hurt feelings and to deal with some of those differing points of view. Expect that some of the people you know, will mourn and feel a sense of loss of what used to be you.

Seana

Amanda_P
10-04-2012, 03:29 PM
I know if I came out to my mother I wouldnt have to worry about anybody else. She would tell eveeybody. She can not keep a secret for nothing.

Lucy Lou
10-04-2012, 03:32 PM
I told my sister about a year ago and sent her some photos. She was totally accepting of it and said how great my eyes looked. What a little darling she is. Love her to bits. Lucy

JoyceJ
10-04-2012, 06:04 PM
omg this thread is EXACTLY what I was looking for! I've been doing what whowhatwhen posted and I'm going to come out to my mom next week when she visits.

My thing is that knowing my mom, there's a good chance she'll shut down and stop listening and stop interacting with me. I don't know if she'll ask questions beyond "is this my fault" "did I fail raising you" blah blah blah blah blah.... so I'm in the process of organizing a folder to give her with information about GID that she can look over when she's ready and I'm not around. I'll be there to answer any questions she has, but I think the shock of everything is just going to confuse her.

If anyone here has any good websites with information for parents and family members, post them! I'll be sure to upload any info I have on here as well!

Stephenie S
10-04-2012, 06:38 PM
I am a fan of short, sweet, and to the point.

I have suggested the following letter often to those in your situation. You should be there when you hand it to her.

Dear Mom,

I love you.

I am a woman. I am transgendered. I can no longer go on living as a man. This is not your fault. I have felt this way all my life.

I love you,

Your daughter Joyce

Those who have used this have reported good results.

Stephie

Saffron
10-05-2012, 07:14 PM
Another thing to consider is that coming out it's only the first step in the relationship. You still will have to make it confortable to be in femme mode around this person (Using your female voice, clothing, etc).

whowhatwhen
10-05-2012, 09:01 PM
Good stuff, thank you all for your input.

I've also asked myself the "is it necessary?" question quite a bit in the past few weeks and I've come to the conclusion that it is.
Even if she doesn't approve of what I'm going to do, IMO it's fair that she knows what I'm doing and why to so she won't worry (as much) or question it.

Still, I would be surprised if she didn't already suspect something as it is.
My guess is that she has an idea but is just as afraid as I am to bring it up, then again she's incredibly hard to read.



Another thing to consider is that coming out it's only the first step in the relationship. You still will have to make it confortable to be in femme mode around this person (Using your female voice, clothing, etc).


I realize that, and it will be a slow process due to funds anyway so I have a bit more time to ease in.
My family has been so good to me, and especially supportive when I've been sick so I feel I owe it to them to make it the least awkward and uncomfortable for them as possible.