Relationships with 'men': crossing the border?

[violetlinda]

I sometimes ask to myself: what does it mean to be a cd ? If I like/want to be a girl, should I do everything girls do ?
I mean, should I be pleased if a man looks at me or is attracted by me ?
On one side I don't like men at all, I don't like their haired bodies and their muscles. But... On the other side , if I am a girl, even if a part time girl, shoud I go on and try to make what girls do when they meet men ?
Being a real girl means, of course, not only dress womenly but attract men's attention on you, on your dresses, on your behaviour.
That is, to be clear, should I let things go on and not refuse a 'contact' with a man who wants to make me his girl?
Is this contrarian to the CD "philosophy" ?
Does it mean being no more a cd, but... whatever else, a crossgender, a transvestite ?
Where is the border, should it be crossed?
What do You think, being obvious that everyone shoud do what she feels as the right thing and makes her comfortable ?

[Denise Robinson]

do you think you are trying in some way to come to terms that you might be Bi or Bi curious ?

[Sarahgurl371]

I think that you are confusing [gender identity with sexual preference.

Not all men like women, not all women like men, and some are attracted to both.

Likewise, not all men are manly men, and not all women are girly girls. Most people fall somewhere in between the lines that most of society lays out as bounderies. Unfortunatley for TG and TS males, and I suppose some females, society seems far more accepting of "gender deviation" in females. Perhaps, that is what is so attractive to us MTF types. The freedom that we suppose females are entitled to in western societies. While most men are consigned to very strict gender identity expectations, and anything less is ridiculed.

Gender and sexuality are two different issues. I do not believe that Just by putting on a dress, I will be sexually attracted to males. I do however think that there may be some rationale to the idea that putting on the dress may allow some TG people to explore thier own sexuality. Maybe it alieviates thier guilt feelings or thier preconcieved expectations of themselves. I have often thought that if I where homosexual, that people would have an easier time accepting the fact that I like to present as female sometimes. But, maybe that is my own preconceived notion.

In the end, I think that we should all do what makes us happy in our heart. Whatever gender identitiy I choose, and whatever sexuallity I choose, doesn't involve anybody but myself and my partner. However, in the real world, we all have to put up with people who want to label everything because "abnormality" and the unknown scare the hell out of alot of people.

Now if I could just live my own life to the code I just described without fear of what others would think!

[violetlinda]

Hi. To Denise: I am neither Bi nor Bi-curious. I am simply thinking about my cding and just wondering what do I want really.
To Tammycd: thank You for your 'skilled' and interesting reply. It is obvious that everyone should do what she likes.
If I ask to the forum what other cds do and think is clearly because I'm confused and don't know what to do.
What others say probably won't change my behavior but helps.
Thanks

[Christina Nicole]

None of the above. I think if I knew as much about GID when I was 20 as I do today that I may have transitioned. That being the case, I probably would have an interest in men. I have heard that HRT changes one's outlook, especially if you start it young. However, since I didn't, I don't. Lesbian all the way, hon!

Warm regards,
Christina Nicole

[Toyah]

I sometimes ask to myself: what does it mean to be a cd ? If I like/want to be a girl, should I do everything girls do ?
I mean, should I be pleased if a man looks at me or is attracted by me ?
On one side I don't like men at all, I don't like their haired bodies and their muscles. But... On the other side , if I am a girl, even if a part time girl, shoud I go on and try to make what girls do when they meet men ?
Being a real girl means, of course, not only dress womenly but attract men's attention on you, on your dresses, on your behaviour.
That is, to be clear, should I let things go on and not refuse a 'contact' with a man who wants to make me his girl?
Is this contrarian to the CD "philosophy" ?
Does it mean being no more a cd, but... whatever else, a crossgender, a transvestite ?
Where is the border, should it be crossed?
What do You think, being obvious that everyone shoud do what she feels as the right thing and makes her comfortable ?


Ewwwwww no way and dont even talk about em like that ick nasty

[Stormgirl]

Im not ok with myself as a CD,maybe its the environment thats surrounding me.I have never thought about physical contact with a man either,just too much of an uncomfortable thought at least for me.

[uknowhoo]

I'm a good ol' red-blooded American lesbian, and proud of it. :D
While I'm not a homophobe by any means, the idea of hooking up with a guy almost makes me shudder.
My understanding is that most CDers share this viewpoint, plenty of others do not. I say, whatever floats your boat.
Hugs,
Tammi

btw, Aubrey, I like your new avatar. Also, it's good to see your not shy anymore (after 700 posts). :)

[AMANDA12]

Your answer to question is outstanding and we all need to know more in depth.
Thnaks

[AMANDA12]

I sometimes ask to myself: what does it mean to be a cd ? If I like/want to be a girl, should I do everything girls do ?
I mean, should I be pleased if a man looks at me or is attracted by me ?
On one side I don't like men at all, I don't like their haired bodies and their muscles. But... On the other side , if I am a girl, even if a part time girl, shoud I go on and try to make what girls do when they meet men ?
Being a real girl means, of course, not only dress womenly but attract men's attention on you, on your dresses, on your behaviour.
That is, to be clear, should I let things go on and not refuse a 'contact' with a man who wants to make me his girl?
Is this contrarian to the CD "philosophy" ?
Does it mean being no more a cd, but... whatever else, a crossgender, a transvestite ?
Where is the border, should it be crossed?
What do You think, being obvious that everyone shoud do what she feels as the right thing and makes her comfortable ?
Your question is great and I think I am not able to answer.I am aCD and alwas wishing to have man on me or HE female (F t M)on me and treat me as a woman of cource i can not offer sex in full scale.
Your question is great only great professional can give answer of it.

[Paula Rae]

Hey Violet,

Can't vote as there is no place for my answer. If there was my vote would be:
I'm OK, would love to have contacts with the right male.

Tammy, A great response, thanks for posting it.

Ricki B

[Karyn]

I'm not even a little bit attracted to men, and have always thought of myself as a lesbian when dressed. I'm sure I even started out of appreciation of what a pretty girl looked like. Lately, though, Karyn's been wondering what would happen if a man...?? Probably a way for her to feel even more feminine, I guess. Fortunately the danger factor will keep her from ever finding out.

[MandyTS]

Oh here we go again, sexual orientation vs gender...

Hmmm...

Well there are studies that the source of gender identity and sexual orienation are at simular parts of the hypothalimus. In my case I have both a female gender and female sexual orientation. I love guys but due to other social pressures I would not date guys right now until I am RLT or later. Could it be that the trueist of true male to female TS are like me and the more median may be TS but have a male sexual identity?

I could never get married to a girl, but to a guy... oh baby! :D

Maybe this is of topic becasue I am not CD but you get the point. It seems like many CDs are BI though and if that is a choice or brain function is not at issu ehere... slipery slope here. I bet one day though they will find a link between sexual orientation and brain sex...

Mandy

[Marlena Dahlstrom]

Well sexual orientation, like gender, is a spectrum that most societies pretend is a duality.

It's also worth remembering the differences between fantasies (things you might think about but never actually want to do), desires (things you'd like to do even if you've never done them) and actual behavior.

Some people -- including "normal" straight guys -- may find the idea of CDs and TSs arousing, since 1) the more sets of sexual symbols, the more exciting; 2) CDs/TSs often in their photos are more femme than many GGs; and 3) it's simply exotic, which makes it erotic.

[Amelie]

Relationships with men,, crossing the border.

Why would anyone go to Mexico for a relationship with men, there are plenty of willing men here in the US.

[Natalie x]

Violet, in our community, there is no border, no definition of what is the "right" way to be a crossdresser. If you want to try it with a man, go ahead, but it's not compulsory; not doing it won't mean you're not a crossdresser, because quite a few of us would be cast out if it was a rule. There are so many reasons for crossdressing, and every one of us here has our own version. I would be flattered if a man fancied me, but that's not the reason I dress, and I would have to tell him (carefully and tactfully) that I only like women.

What others say probably won't change my behavior but helps.

That's what it's all about, girl. We can tell you how we feel, what we like (and there is some good advice up there /\ from everyone) but you are accepted here as yourself, so there's no need to try to conform to some supposed "norm".

[Ashley in Virginia]

Beat me to it Amelie. Though I was thinking about the Canadian men with their flannel shirts cutting down trees.... maybe crossing the border wouldn't be such a bad thing?

[ocxdresser]

AllI know is while in my en femme role and dressed head to toe including makeup and hair Theres nothing I crave more than male attention with the hopes it will lead to male touch and hopefully further (like male sex) ....I feel I actually do 180 degree turn when en-femme and thats just the way I'm wired......conversly when dressed as that guy I am sex with females is the only thing on my mind......usually !

[Adele 2005]

Whoa! There's a "CD Philosophy"? Tell me more! Are there any chants or mantras (apart from "moisturise, moisturise, moisturise")?

It can be scary wondering where life is leading us, but I dare say there are as many mixtures of gender and sexuality here as there are people on this forum.

You've got a big poll and I don't fit on it!

[Rachael R]

To the girls who wish to venture out in public, sooner or later you will have to deal with men coming on to you. That is something we all deal with at one point or another.

I found that my attractions evolved over a period of years. In my 20's I never in a million years would have had anything to do with a man.

In my 30's when I began going out clubbing in the big city I found that I was very much attracted to TS's. I guess it had to do with the "packaging" so to speak. One thing led to another and I had several affairs with TS women, and i even dated one girl as a man.

In my 40's it seemed that I became more receptive to the advances of a couple of men. The only way I could be comfortable with a man was if I was completely in feminine mode, and then it only happened a few times.

My point being that at least in my case it was a matter of evolving mentally.

To this day, I cannot look at a masculine man and look at him as a potential partner. I still love genetic women first and foremost.

I guess if someone has to put a label on it, I'm bi with strong straight leanings for whatever that means!!!

[Julie]

I've kissed men. It's like kissing sandpaper. I don't know what women see in men but I'm glad they do.

NOTE TO THE MALE POPULATION: SHAVE THAT FACE!

As a crossdresser I'm totally uninterested in men. Women are so fascinating to me. They are such special creatures. I would find it hard to believe I would ever get tired of all those curves and that soft skin and..... Okay this might be heading to XXX

[Robyn2006]

No offering in your choices for me either, my choice would be:
I love men and wish nothing more then to be within their arms and making out.

I know many here are in the "just love to become fem" camp and that most are otherwise pretty hetero. Me? Christ, there is NOTHING to compare with my fantasies of making love to a man. Though I must say that I couldn't imaging doing this as a man, I would have to be completely made-up before I'd even consider it. It's a girl-guy thing for me all the way! But to pull a man's lips to mine...? To feel my lipstick peal from his lips...? God, please say this will happen someday!

Robyn
:<3:

[BrendaChristine]

I enjoy flirting with men when out, and it sometimes ends up in an "event", which I enjoy. My fem side is extremely submissive sexually, the majority of my sexual activity when dressed is with other "girls", and men on occasion. I enjoy encounters with women as well, but only in my male mode. I don't have interest in being with a man when male. Maybe confusing, but it works for me.

[Ruby M]

i went out one night (fully dressed), in Melbourne, at a fab placed called "Pink"'
on guy took a liking to me saying lovely I looked, and gave a peek on the cheek, Of course he knew I was a Cd)

Naturally I was flattered, he wanted to hold my hand, but he was not my type and was starting to get pushy, so i backed away. BUT if he was my type, i think I would have liked to see how it went eg buying me a drink and asking for a dance ummmm

[Jiera]

the majority of my sexual activity when dressed is with other "girls", and men on occasion. I enjoy encounters with women as well, but only in my male mode. I don't have interest in being with a man when male. Maybe confusing, but it works for me.

Ditto, and it's not that confusing, really. It works for me, too, and I imagine there are others here who would agree. If that specific set of preferences requires a label, we should call it "magilicious" or "femtrescent" or something.

Ji

[freshfrankie]

Violetlinda. Your post is really thought provoking. I've been thinking about it and I would describe myself as a heterosexual man but a submissive lesbian woman who enjoys a woman doing whatever she wants with me. For a bi-sexual woman the possibilities are endless!(no pun intended!) Hugs

Love
Jeannie

[Bonnie D]

Ever since I began crossdressing I wanted to be female but my male gender and upbringing lead me to keep my female self hidden. My female self didn't only come out when I was dressed though. She would often watch other girls and feel envious and she would have fantasies about being with boys.

I eventually had my first experience with a man in my early twenties while not dressed but my female being was completely there and my male self was hidden. I've had many more experiences with men since and enjoy them all the time. I especially enjoy them when I'm dressed but as I said it not absolutely necessary. I prefer to be dressed though.

I am bisexual.

Bonnie

[Katie Ashe]

I want nothing to do with men at all. I'm girly all the way no matter what I wear.

Side note: I was sexually assaulted by a man when I was 5 years old.

[Marla]

When I'm dressed I become sexually more sensitive, especially to the idea of having sex with men. I think it's because a big part of being feminine for me is to please men with my looks and actions. Be happy!

[sherri]

I've been hetero all my life, but dressing has certainly evoked bi urges. I'm just worried that my wish list is too stringent. I want to be a girlfriend for a guy who is:

Nice looking
Pleasant company
Genuinely attracted to the fem me
Interested in a full-blown boyfriend/girlfriend experience
Adept at treating me like a woman
And above all, trustworthy - safe, sane, honest, considerate, real

A whole weekend as a girl with my guy ... mmmmm. But come to think of it, my wish list would, with only minor edits, work just as well with another woman ...

[BrendaChristine]

While I'm not sure if I would go for men all the time I do have a fantasy of being a plain old housewife, at least for a while. Who knows.

[lawnmanmo]

While I'm not sure if I would go for men all the time I do have a fantasy of being a plain old housewife, at least for a while. Who knows.
Ladies
As a male admirer, a gentleman and one who adores the CDing experience, I can say from my own experiences that the whole aspect of "being with a man" and this is not just sexual, but just being out and about, is totally up to the makeup of the CD. What I mean is that there are CD women who want a experience to the nines. And then there are those that are contend with dressing in a lonely room. I have been out many times with CD women to restaurants, drives, malls and shopping and all I can say is that I can see the thrill and the magic written all over their faces. It is beyond words what dressing like a women and then getting totally into that role, in public especially, can do to heighten that whole experience. When a girl dresses, she BECOMES a female and when with a man out and about, it TELLS A STORY to all those that may see them in public. Only WE know that wonderful secret that is between us and the world just sees a "man and wife", boyfriend and girlfriend. Just a simple thing like going into a mall with "your man" and trying on dresses or shoes and then showing him is a you model then, an feeling that cannot be compared. Believe me, I'm tell you from MY own experiences. I also am taken to another world with excitement just enjoying "her" being HER.
Jerry

[Jesse69]

I think being a male crossdressor and having a relationship with a man is really sinful. I would never do this and I think its taking crossdressing a bit too far. I think this is what gives crossdressing a bad reputation to most straight people.

The most I can do is just fantasize that I'm a woman with a man. Never could do it in reality. And I don't like men. Women are so beautiful but sometimes I'd rather be a beautiful woman too. But I have to go on living being a male.with a CD fetish.

[BrendaChristine]

So are you saying being a homosexual is a sin?

[Amelie]

I think being a male crossdressor and having a relationship with a man is really sinful. I would never do this and I think its taking crossdressing a bit too far. I think this is what gives crossdressing a bad reputation to most straight people.

The most I can do is just fantasize that I'm a woman with a man. Never could do it in reality. And I don't like men. Women are so beautiful but sometimes I'd rather be a beautiful woman too. But I have to go on living being a male.with a CD fetish.



My opinion:

I think it is straight Cds that give gay Cds a bad name. Most straight Cds hide in the closet like a worm under a rock, so afraid to come out. So most non-cds think there must be something wrong and sinful to Cding because why else would they hide their dressing like they do. Then when a straight CD does go out, it is usually to a gay bar, yes the same gays that are despised by most straight Cds. Straight Cds are also the biggest cry babies , they are always crying about how unfair society is, how unfair that they can’t dress they way they want to. To me this cry baby attitude gives all Cds a bad name. I wish straight Cds would show some guts and quit complaining, because they are making a bad name to all Cds.

So, it is not gay Cds that give you a bad name, it is yourself, straight Cds that are doing the harm to your own self. Even you, you are facing backwards in your avatar, a sure sign of cowardness, which in my opinion is giving a bad name to all Cds including me a gay CD.

I have been here at the forum for a year now,I can’t believe the red-neck, religious right attitude of some Cds here, I am amazed at what some people here say in their posts.

So Helana, you are quite right, the UK is more tolerant than the US. The US is filled with intolerant people and others who let them be this way with their silence.

[Sharon]

Amelie -- :clap: :clap: :clap:

[sherri]

Lawnman, you sound like my kind of guy!

:love:

[Donna tv]

Robyn 2006 , I could not have said any better myself

[DanaJ]

Amelie - I agree with you about some of the attitudes here. I find it strange that a member of a group looked down on by society can then go and say something like that about another lifestyle :rolleyes:

[sherri]

Amelie and DanaJ, I have to add that in all honesty and humility crossdressers may be one of the most non-judgemental groups I know of, at least regarding gender issues. In my experiences, I have encounted prejudice and bias among straights, gays and lesbians, but almost never run into it among CDers (present thread excepted, I guess). Anytime I hear that garbage from a GLBTer, I always think what you said, Dana - how can a victim of prejudice harbor it in his or her own heart? It's a mystery to me.

[Kim E]

Amelie ~ Very well said.

If we expect to receive tolerance, acceptance and understanding, then we need to give tolerance, acceptance and understanding in return. Anything less is hypocrisy.

Kim

[Faye Emmette]

I had always been hetero but in '99 when my GG girlfriend & I separated, I met a lady like us, and among all the other joys of having a girlfriend to go out with, our intimate times were not at all unnatural. But I had not thought of that thing called 'emotions' and I feel that's what parted us. The next lady I met seemed a substitute and that ended quickly and I've not wanted to return to that life and hurt again.
Sorry if it was a bit of a sob but that's my version of 'crossing the line'.
XX
F.

[FionaAlexis]

I had a couple of dates with men in my early 30s. I did enjoy some aspects at the time. But I think I was too wrapped up in guilt, thoughts of my shocked parents and the whole fire and brimstone Methodist morals thing to truly make a rational judgement or enjoy the experience fully. I didn't date a man again, in fact I purged a few years later and then re-married. I'm not a very sexual person anyway so there is no great urge to date - but its certainly a regret that I didn't explore this aspect of my sexuality more fully at the time.

Fiona xx

[Jesse69]

My opinion:

I think it is straight Cds that give gay Cds a bad name. Most straight Cds hide in the closet like a worm under a rock, so afraid to come out. So most non-cds think there must be something wrong and sinful to Cding because why else would they hide their dressing like they do. Then when a straight CD does go out, it is usually to a gay bar, yes the same gays that are despised by most straight Cds. Straight Cds are also the biggest cry babies , they are always crying about how unfair society is, how unfair that they can’t dress they way they want to. To me this cry baby attitude gives all Cds a bad name. I wish straight Cds would show some guts and quit complaining, because they are making a bad name to all Cds.

So, it is not gay Cds that give you a bad name, it is yourself, straight Cds that are doing the harm to your own self. Even you, you are facing backwards in your avatar, a sure sign of cowardness, which in my opinion is giving a bad name to all Cds including me a gay CD.

I have been here at the forum for a year now,I can’t believe the red-neck, religious right attitude of some Cds here, I am amazed at what some people here say in their posts.

So Helana, you are quite right, the UK is more tolerant than the US. The US is filled with intolerant people and others who let them be this way with their silence.

Well, I guess we are opposite, since I think most gay cds give us a bad name. Yes, I'm still in the closet, but if I had to go to a bar in drag - I think I would try a lesbian hangout, not a gay bar. I've never been to a gay bar. And I think I'll have to suffer a little in purgatory for my crossdressing. So I try to do good things to compensate. I'm not inposing my religion on anyone here, just stating my view.

My avatar shows only my back because I don't want guests or the unregistered public viewers of this site to see my face. But all members can see my face in my profile and in my Picture posts which show my full self. I'm not camera shy like a lot of other members who barely posted anything of themselves in the Picture Section.

Well, yes, the US is intolerant as I feel that most straight people hate me just because of my crossdressing fetish. And my career has been hurt because of my crossdressing. The last company I worked for before my current job - they made fun of me at the Xmas party. And then they fired me 2 weeks later. Only now do they have anti gay discrimination laws in IL, USA - too late for my last professional job.

[Marlena Dahlstrom]

Well said Amelie. I've always been puzzled by those who complain bitterly about how society's intolerance toward them can turn around be be prejudiced against someone else.

[Faye Emmette]

..Or at least open up a thread dealing with the rights and wrongs of differring attitudes.
We are all different on this Earth thank Heavens ( or thank Cliff :) to UK members).
Let's keep the topic running in a friendly manner.
:rose2:
F.

[MsJanessa]

I've had relationships with men but to be honest the only ones that I have found at all satifs;) ying are those where I dominate the male in a BDSM kind of way----I prefer relationships with GGs or even better other T-Girls---I still like to be in control but to a much lesser degree---I look on T-Girls and GGs more as lovers rather than slaves---still the though of a hard bodied handsome man kneeling at My feet is stimulating.

[ReginaK]

My personal opinion is this:

Love whomever you want. It's only when you start restricting yourself that internal conflict arises. Don't concern yourself with what others think. They aren't the ones who will find happiness for you.

I'd also like to add, as a religous person, I find it hard to believe that 2 people who truly love each other could ever be considered a sin.

[Sharon]

Well, yes, the US is intolerant as I feel that most straight people hate me just because of my crossdressing fetish.

You're not hated here, Jesse, as long as you refrain from calling some of your fellow members "sinners."

[Jesse69]

You're not hated here, Jesse, as long as you refrain from calling some of your fellow members "sinners."

I never called anyone specifically a sinner. I just stated my views of crossdressing and sin.

And about what Amelie said - I've never seen a Picture thread of her's while I think I already posted 2 or 3 Picture threads. So I think it's Amelie who's really picture shy here.

So Amelie - why don't you post a Picture thread of you in your best outfits?

[JennyCD]

I am personally heterosexual. I am in no way attracted to men. That said, I find it offensive that anyone, especially an CDer could judge others on their sexual preference. There is far too much hatred and judging in this world as it is.

We, as a group, are viewed by the mainstrem public as "freaks", "perverts", "strange" or whatever other negative adjective you can come up with, but we are just people trying to deal with life in the best way we can. So is everyone else.

I am really turned off by the idea of intimate contact with a man, but that's ME. If that's what you or anyone else desires, that's fine for you. Just don't pass judgement on me or someone else for their choice. None of us are perfect.

Amelie: in some ways, you are are right. Those of us who are in the closet are not doing anything at all to help make CDers more accepted in society. I don't agree with the entire sentiment you expressed, but I do agree with that part. I am one of those people, and don't deny it at all. I deeply respect and even envy those of you who have the courage to live your lives exactly as you see fit. I wish I could muster that kind of courage.

[Kierci]

I've been Bi-curious for years. Up untill this year I have never had the op to even touch another man. I did this year, he returned but was a little drunk at the time and bit a little, I am really hesatant to do it again although would like to under better circumstances maybe I'mnot sure. I would have to be dressed though.:confused: +? :( :eek:

[Its Sarah]

I've totally thought about, and fantasized about being with a man. Like so many others though, I'd only want to be if I were complete en-femme, since when I'm in my everyday guy life I'm all about women. Though, I can think of 2 times in the last couple weeks where my head has turned when a cute guy walked by.

I think I'm bi, but have no experience to back it up. So who knows?

[Cdone2]

I've been Bi-curious for years. Up until this year, I have never had the op. to even touch another man. I did this year. He returned but was a little drunk at the time and bit a little. I am really hesatant to do it again although [ I ] would like to under better circumstances. Maybe, I'm not sure. I would have to be dressed though.

Maybe next time you'll need to fit him with a ring gag? :p

It kind of spoils it when someone bites doesn't it? :)

[Michelle Hart]

Just recently my GG an I sat down ahd had a long discussion about this. We had gone out previosly and this guy was flirting with her and knew I was with her but when we go out we go as girlfriends not partners. When it was time to go he walked us out and followed us to our car. On the way She told him that we were together and that he needs to be interested in me as well as her. He said that when I looked and was dressed as I was he could deal with it.

Since then my GG and I have discussed what to do should that happen again and we decided that I should experiment if I felt I wanted to. The choice to be with a man is up to me and she supports my choice whichever way I go.

Have I thought a bout it ....Yes......Would I do It.......Probably, if the conditions were right. She knows that I make no decisions lightly and try to consider all the ramifications of my actions.

Based on the aformentioned, consider this............

I am 100% straight and have never had a sexual thought about a man in my life. Since my alter ego has emerged and began to blossom I have had to reevaluate my position on several things. Whay would I want or ever consider being sexually active or date a man.........

Because Michelle is a woman and that is what women do. They date men, they sleep with men. They dump (we hope ) men when their jerks.

If you want to be a woman that just be one. I sure am.

[Tina Dixon]

With a man no way, but? If the man was like us CD/TS I realy dont know what I would do:strugglin

[Christa]

Whether dressed or not, I prefer men. I've been with the same wonderful guy now for 15 years and we're both working on way to bring Christa out a little more. Since he's really bisexual, he appreciates my masculine and feminine sides.

From point of view, there's nothing more feminine that being made love to by a man when in femme mode.

[Abby Lauren]

Actually, I never thought of being with a man until I read some of the posts in this Forum (different threads than this one) and i could really identify with my sister as she was being taken out on a date, holding the arm of a man, making herself up and getting dressed for the date, having a man hold a door for her, being hugged and kissed, etc. I shocked myself that I was really digging it.
I have to say that it is very confusing. But, from the posts in this thread, I know I have lots of company.

[Lilith Moon]

If we expect to receive tolerance, acceptance and understanding, then we need to give tolerance, acceptance and understanding in return. Anything less is hypocrisy.

Kim

YES!!!

:yrtw:

[cotswolder]

A philosophy of mine is"Never worry why you are enjoying yourself".A couple of years ago I was bi-curious.Now I am not curious because I felt so much within my femininity that I decided that"Heather"should have a bit of fun now and again.I know how far I want to go and have great enjoyment.