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Marleena
12-27-2012, 09:07 AM
First of all I hope everbody had a great Christmas!:)

There was a recent thread where a couple of members feel that us CD/TG/TS are NOT normal. The medical community has finally accepted us as normal. What we are is our normal. We are definitely a minority group though.

So how do you feel? Do you feel like a freak or have you accepted who you are as normal?

I'm not talking about how the general public perceives us. I say we're normal but just different than most of the general public.:)

becky77
12-27-2012, 09:11 AM
I am freakin' normal.
Or am I normal freak ;)

Felt a freak growing up, with information now available I now feel normal. And what is Normal? I don't think there is such a thing.

Angela Campbell
12-27-2012, 09:24 AM
Just what is "normal"? If it is being like the majority in our society, then no we are not. If it is to be compared to others in the TG world, then yes we are. How do I feel about myself? Am I normal? No I have never felt normal in my entire life and really have no desire to be normal. I am different, always have been, always will be even if I didn't wear womens clothing. Most people who accomplish great things were not normal. Eienstein, Ben Franklin, Madam Curie, Mozart......

wantstocrossdress
12-27-2012, 09:27 AM
as long as dressing up as a woman is not a crime, being labelled a freak wont hurt me. jeeeesh... the real freaks are those who are killing, hurting, robbing, or exploiting others. leave me and my femme stuff alone :D

FrillyShelly
12-27-2012, 09:34 AM
I wish I knew !! It messes with my head almost every day........

Karren H
12-27-2012, 09:34 AM
I'm the most normal person I know!

Launa
12-27-2012, 09:34 AM
After 30+ years of feeling like a freak.....I finally feel normal. A little over a year ago something hit me over the head and clued me in, it must have been this site.

Marleena
12-27-2012, 09:41 AM
It wasn't many years ago that homosexuals were shunned and the medical community tried to cure them. They tried reprogramming them, and even shock therapy. Finally they realized it wasn't a matter of a person choosing to be gay they were born that way. Now we hear about so and so being gay and mostly it's no big deal. Hopefully being transgendered will be accepted in the same way some day. We've been here since the beginning of time.

Nanaya
12-27-2012, 09:41 AM
There is no such thing as "normal" and "abnormal" people as far as I'm concerned. We're all different.

kimdl93
12-27-2012, 09:43 AM
First of all I hope everbody had a great Christmas!:)

There was a recent thread where a couple of members feel that us CD/TG/TS are NOT normal. .
.:)
To answer your question, I will acknowledge being different than the average GM in many respects. The implication of the posts you mentioned was that there was something wrong with us...that not being average or typical was in some way a defect. It's not. And for those who feel this way, I'd suggest a long commitment to therapy. They need to get over that deep seated self loathing. Self loathing is the only thing wrong, if its based on the mistaken belief that being transgendered is wrong.

Kelley
12-27-2012, 09:44 AM
I think I am normal. I believe everyone's gender identity falls somewhere along a spectrum from very masculine to very fem. for us males the expectation is to be way up in the masculine. The truth is that we all fall somewhere along that spectrum. I just choose to express myself in in the portion where I fall. I feel sorry for those who feel they always have to prove just how mucho they are for fear someone will discover they drift down the spectrum a little more than others.

suzy1
12-27-2012, 09:51 AM
If I were the only crossdresser in the world then I would be the ‘normal one’ and everybody else would be the freaks and I’m not joking.:eek:
Or to put it another way, no one is normal, we are all different.

The problem comes from other people saying we are not normal and we let ourselves believe them.
Why?:strugglin

You seem normal to me Marleena and I should know.:hugs:

danielleinbr
12-27-2012, 09:56 AM
If everybody was "normal" what a boring place the world would be, lol. Everybody is simply different.
Hugs
Danielle

Cary
12-27-2012, 10:03 AM
I'm normal for me, and that's all I can be:) I'm happy with that.

Ann Louise
12-27-2012, 10:07 AM
"Freaks" was a term we the world-wide tribe of hippies applied to ourselves back in the late 1960's and early 1970's before bubble gum music and it's insidious older sibling, disco, heralded the end of the revolution. I love that term, and will gladly apply it proudly now. Power To The (Trans*) People! Elfin

Launa
12-27-2012, 10:10 AM
I'm the most normal person I know!

But I'm very normal too.

Tina B.
12-27-2012, 10:11 AM
I used to think of myself as normal, but that question comes up so often around here, I now have my doubts.

May(be)
12-27-2012, 10:13 AM
I'm far from ordinary.

Check the user title-

Marleena
12-27-2012, 10:14 AM
I used to think of myself as normal, but that question comes up so often around here, I now have my doubts.

Ah.. but our survey and the medical community says we are just fine.:) We are just a minority and minorities need to fight for acceptance.

STACY B
12-27-2012, 10:15 AM
If we are FREAKS were not alone ,,Look at how many of us there are on here ,, Yep ,,I'm a SUPER FREAK !!! Super freaking YOWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!

StephanieC
12-27-2012, 10:18 AM
Oh I remember this from my college days in psych class: there is no fixed definition for "normal". Well, actually I believe it was "abnormal" and there was no textbook definition of "abnormal". I think there is the "normal" that the majority of society determines as in "normal" behavior. But that depends on the culture and other variables at the time...which also change. And there is the "normal" defined by ourselves: which is also dependent on a whole host of variables.

As time has passed, I have realized that I am not "unusual": there are many people like me. But each person is a mix of attributes and we are more than one or two behaviors. And what we are now is not necessarily what we were or what we are to become.

I try to be the best person I can be: kind and courteous, caring, helpful, an asset to society. I want the world to be the better for my being here. By those standards, I consider myself "normal".

Seasons greetings to all.

-stephani

Fran Moore
12-27-2012, 10:23 AM
I've never felt "Normal", but I've come to accept myself as "unique" and "gifted". Looking forward to the day when I can add "accepted" to that list.....

KaylaCD
12-27-2012, 10:24 AM
I think we're normal, maybe not totally normal as it's not the most frequent thing todo but freak is definitely the wrong word. Maybe extraordinary.

Angela Campbell
12-27-2012, 10:57 AM
"Freaks" was a term we the world-wide tribe of hippies applied to ourselves back in the late 1960's and early 1970's before bubble gum music and it's insidious older sibling, disco, heralded the end of the revolution. I love that term, and will gladly apply it proudly now. Power To The (Trans*) People! Elfin

Yes! I remember calling ourselves freaks in the 70's. I was proud of it because we were different from what society wanted us to be.

Aubri
12-27-2012, 11:03 AM
I feel pretty good, coming out to the wife has lifted the Sisyphus stone out of my life. One of the names I had considered at the beginning of my journey was Abbey (as in Abbey-normal). But at the end of the day, I'm not worried, and sleep content, knowing that i'm my own brand of crazy.

Barbara Ella
12-27-2012, 11:15 AM
I am just normal enough to keep me wondering. Mostly wondering what the hell all those other people think they are doing, screwing up the world like they are. The only time I am a freak is when I get on the dance floor and try to get a freak on. Seemed to work better when I was younger, now I just make everyone else feel better, because they sure do seem to smile a lot more when they see me.

Barbara

Rogina B
12-27-2012, 11:26 AM
Normal is a setting on a washing machine only. We are individuals,each with our own characteristics,but almost never a serious problem to the rest of the world.

Brianna612
12-27-2012, 11:27 AM
If anyone including myself calls me normal please (and I mean it) please send me to the loony bin. They didn't nick name me "Crazy Pete" for nothing. I really enjoy being me and I really don't want to be them so freak me out. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year All

Beverley Sims
12-27-2012, 11:44 AM
It wasn't many years ago that homosexuals were shunned and the medical community tried to cure them. They tried reprogramming them, and even shock therapy. Finally they realized it wasn't a matter of a person choosing to be gay they were born that way. Now we hear about so and so being gay and mostly it's no big deal. Hopefully being transgendered will be accepted in the same way some day. We've been here since the beginning of time.
I have been led to believe that women who give birth out of wedlock are accepted into society these days. :)

CynthiaD
12-27-2012, 12:09 PM
Years ago I decided to get rid of all the girl stuff and just be male all the time. I did this for quite a while, but I always felt like a freak. Right now I'm dressed as a woman, and I feel perfectly normal.

Cheryl T
12-27-2012, 01:55 PM
For the longest time I felt I was a "freak". I felt so different from others, hiding who I am for fear of their derision. Then I learned that I was not alone in this world. Others like me exist. I am a minority, but I am no longer a freak.
Just as other minorities it will take time for us to be recognized and accepted, but united we will be that and more.

Lynn Marie
12-27-2012, 02:14 PM
Well, I'm not a freak anymore. Probably never really been completely normal either. I'm more outgoing than what might be called normal, more fun loving than what might be called normal, and neater and cleaner than what might be called normal. Otherwise I'm perfectly normal!

LilSissyStevie
12-27-2012, 02:18 PM
This thread reminds me of a line from a Mothers Of Invention tune (Hungry Freaks, Daddy)

"You saw their clothes and then you cried:
THOSE HUNGRY FREAKS, DADDY!"

I've never wanted to be considered "normal" and can't comprehend why anybody would. If too many people approve of me, I figure I must be doing something wrong. Fortunately, it's never been a problem.:tongueout

ArleneRaquel
12-27-2012, 02:19 PM
I'm the most normal freak that I know.

Angela Campbell
12-27-2012, 02:23 PM
Normal is a setting on a washing machine only. We are individuals,each with our own characteristics,but almost never a serious problem to the rest of the world.

If we are talking about washing machines I would be the "delicate" cycle.....

Joanne f
12-27-2012, 02:28 PM
I am definitely as normal as they come :bonk::Pullhair: , it is you lot that I am concerned about :lol2::lol:

ReineD
12-27-2012, 02:32 PM
Marleena, the member you refer to was not speaking of abnormal in terms of a pathology.

If you define "normal" in terms of strictly numbers, meaning that anyone who is not like the norm falls outside of the norm, then cross-gender expression falls outside of the norm since only about 3%-5% of individuals engage in this behavior. This is not a judgment on a TG's mental or moral state. Maybe you could think of it as "rare", if it makes you feel better.

Unfortunately the term "not normal" or "abnormal" has taken on negative meaning, as if it is somehow wrong to not be like others. But in reality, it is quite acceptable to not fall into the norms as long as there is no harm done to the self or to others.

Einstein was abnormal in terms of his intelligence, Mozart in terms of musical ability, Peyton Manning or Wayne Gretzky in terms of sports ability, top models in terms of attractiveness, etc.

So no, you are not normal. :)

Joanie_Shakti
12-27-2012, 02:39 PM
I thought of this from Monty Python's Life of Brian after reading the OP:

Brian: No, no. Please, please please listen. I've got one or two things to say.
The Crowd: Tell us! Tell us both of them!
Brian: Look, you've got it all wrong. You don't need to follow me. You don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves! You're all individuals!
The Crowd: Yes! We're all individuals!
Brian: You're all different!
The Crowd: Yes! We're all different!
Man in crowd: I'm not...
The Crowd: Shhh!
Brian: You've all got to work it out for yourselves.
The Crowd: Yes! We've got to work it out for ourselves!
Brian: Exactly!
The Crowd: Tell us more!
Brian: No! That's the point! Don't let anyone tell you what to do! Otherwise -

Like LilSissyStevie's Zappa reference, I considered myself a "freak" in my hippie days. But that was a proud label to carry in those days. I've never been one to go completely with The Crowd and have worked at being a bit "eccentric." But though it's a shame I have to hide my crossdressing from society, I do not feel like a "freak" because I like girly things and am not a macho man.

Marleena
12-27-2012, 02:43 PM
Marleena, the member you refer to was not speaking of abnormal in terms of a pathology.

If you define "normal" in terms of strictly numbers, meaning that anyone who is not like the norm falls outside of the norm, then cross-gender expression falls outside of the norm since only about 3%-5% of individuals engage in this behavior. This is not a judgment on a TG's mental or moral state. Maybe you could think of it as "rare", if it makes you feel better.

Unfortunately the term "not normal" or "abnormal" has taken on negative meaning, as if it is somehow wrong to not be like others. But in reality, it is quite acceptable to not fall into the norms as long as there is no harm done to the self or to others.

Einstein was abnormal in terms of his intelligence, Mozart in terms of musical ability, Peyton Manning or Wayne Gretzky in terms of sports ability, top models in terms of attractiveness, etc.

So no, you are not normal. :)

WTH?? So then I am a freak?:D

ReineD
12-27-2012, 02:46 PM
WTH?? So then I am a freak?:D

Why, oh why, do people not read stuff? :D

Marleena
12-27-2012, 02:47 PM
Why, oh why, do people not read stuff? :D

Okay then I'm a brilliant abnormal freak?:heehee:

Jenniferathome
12-27-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm just a normal cross dresser. There are freaky cross dressers too. Just like anywhere int he world. What none of us are is "average" or "typical" which are terms often synonymous with "normal." We are a tiny fraction of the population.

famousunknown
12-27-2012, 02:57 PM
I'm not talking about how the general public perceives us. I say we're normal but just different than most of the general public.:)

CD's are definitely NOT normal. A man dressing in woman's clothes is NOT normal. But if you don't care what people think or say, what does it matter?

Jean Marie
12-27-2012, 03:00 PM
I feel both its a blessing and a gift being who we are.

Marleena
12-27-2012, 03:06 PM
CD's are definitely NOT normal. A man dressing in woman's clothes is NOT normal. But if you don't care what people think or say, what does it matter?

I don't care neither should any of us.:) None of us should be ashamed of it either. I know I'm fine not being like the majority.

I'm more afraid of the "normal" majority out there than any of you here!:heehee:

Annette Anderson
12-27-2012, 03:10 PM
as long as dressing up as a woman is not a crime, being labelled a freak wont hurt me. jeeeesh... the real freaks are those who are killing, hurting, robbing, or exploiting others. leave me and my femme stuff alone :D

I think there are far worse things to be than a cd.I think it is the social construct of being a man that we bounce up against.I believe we are good people for the the most part,just maby overly hard on ourselves at times.I try to be the best person i can be,and when i am a woman i try to be the best woman i can be.Being a woman can be a beautiful and emotional experience ...or it can be a mental hell.I would personally try to avoid the hell part

I read something along time ago about the indians and how transgender people would just live the way they wanted,of course they did not perform sex change surgery,but a cd/ts would just live as a woman,taking a husband etc.. They did not look down on this at all.I think they might have even been revered as having two "spirits" inside them.Simple right..Yeah.So what did we do with the indians?.... we killed them

Marleena
12-27-2012, 03:48 PM
Myth: Crossdressing is a psychological problem.

Fact: Hardly. Modern psychology accepts that crossdressing is an expression of personality which is as immutable as left-handedness. Any problems crossdressers may develop are in reaction to social stigma, prejudice, and bigotry - not disorder. Social judgment is not a valid basis upon which to regard human idiosyncrasies as mental disorders.

Lady Catherine
12-27-2012, 03:49 PM
I don't want to be normal. To be like everyone else would suck. I don't want to be like everyone else. Hell, I don't want to be like all of you (no offense), either. I just want to go through life being me and f#$k what everyone else thinks. I don't even want to march to the beat of a different drummer. I want to beat my own drum, thank you.

xdressed
12-27-2012, 04:04 PM
There's no such thing as normal, only 'average' and 'typical', and who would aspire to be typical

SandraInHose
12-27-2012, 05:06 PM
I read a quote recently that stated, "Normal people are the ones you just don't know very well."

Truer words were never spoken. Or written.

Frédérique
12-27-2012, 05:08 PM
Do you feel like a freak or have you accepted who you are as normal?

“OUT OF THE WAY, FREAK!!!” (spoken by Razer in Jak X)

Well, let’s see…:thinking: I have to consult my enormous dictionary…:doh:

It says that a FREAK is an abnormal person – correct. Also, freak means queer – correct! I can honestly say that I am whimsical, odd, and frisky, meaning freakish. Believe me, I am. Hmmm… I’m not some kind of monstrosity, according to ME, and I’m not all that capricious, either. I am struck by sudden fancy (just last night, for example), but it does not accurately describe who I am. I must say that I am oddly different from what is considered to be usual or normal, so, by that definition I AM a freak…

If I suddenly dipped into masculinity with both feet, acted my age and gender, and turned my back on all that is true and beautiful, I would be doing something really freakish, at least as it pertains to what “normal” means to me. Is it normal to be comfortable with oneself? Maybe not, if people are going to see an innocuous (but non-innocent) little boy-girl like me as some kind of monstrous freak. I’m not supposed to crossdress, just like I’m not supposed to straddle the genders in a bid to make life interesting, so I am branded a “freak” as a warning to all. The message is clear – don’t expand your mind, or your interests, or your sensibilities, and stay within the allotted boundaries that have been conveniently provided for your safety…

There used to be a thing called the “counterculture,” and the people within that group were considered to be freaks. Being counter to accepted norms is normal for me, and it’s a lot of fun! I have accepted myself, in fact I cannot ever recall NOT accepting myself. Tell me –aren’t the people who are trying to find out “who they are” the real freaks in this one-act human drama?
:straightface:

Deedee Skyblue
12-27-2012, 05:17 PM
Are you sure there are no other choices? I am neither a freak nor normal. Who wants to be normal, anyway?

Deedee

Marleena
12-27-2012, 05:23 PM
Are you sure there are no other choices? I am neither a freak nor normal. Who wants to be normal, anyway?

Deedee

Anybody can add their own choices Deedee.:)

AllyCDTV
12-27-2012, 05:34 PM
I don't consider myself a freak but I sure as hell ain't normal either. To me, normal = boring.

Kathleen Ann Trees
12-27-2012, 05:42 PM
It's been a while since I've had a statistics class, but if I recall my normal distribution curve, 2 standard devaiations from the mean includes about 95.5% of the population and 3 standard deviations included 99.5%. So, I'd guess we are clearly within 3 sigma, and probably closer to 2 sigma.

Imagine the poor "freaks" out 5 or 6 standard deviations. I feel sorry for how paranoid they must feel walking the streets. :-)

Kathleen Ann

Loni
12-27-2012, 06:54 PM
once during a dot physical the dr said my foot was deformed. i have a hammer toe. ring toe on the left foot likes to be 1/2 under the middle toe.
i told him if his foot did not look like mine he was the deformed mutant. in a very profound way. he got all pissey.

his loss. very bad bed side manners for a dr. insulting the customer.

so some will only see and survive the world in there small light. all the rest get to live a full life.

but please define "normal" does it include the bell curve? or just a 45% angle on the chart? straight and flat line..like a dead hart?

.

Kristyn Hill
12-27-2012, 07:28 PM
"Normal people are the ones you just don't know very well." taken from SandraInHose. I love this. I always say that we never know what our neighbor is in to and we would probably not want to know. Leave my high heels and make up alone and I shall ask you no questions, my friend.

I was born this way and starting wearing heels in my mother's closet at a very early age. why? who knows. Do I or have I ever cared? No ma'am. Before coming out fully to my wife last April, I had been telling her that I was born into wearing heels, etc. Just is the way it is. Have I questioned everything, Sure.

I accept myself 100% and this forum and you girls since last April are a big reason. We are just hot gurls making the world a prettier place one day at a time.

My wife loves me and so do I. We are all normal. I worry much more about other groups out there not us cd/tg/ts's. Happy New Year!

Melissa73
12-27-2012, 07:33 PM
trust me, when i was younger i did think i was a freak!!! my brothers and sisters would tease me and laugh at me. Its one reason i fought to keep my dressing a secret for so long! But years ago, despite i still kept it a secret, i realized what i did was not wrong, or a sin, or weird!! what are clothes? who is to say boys cant wear skirts? all it is is that each generation and society dictates what cxlothes are for each sex! back in the day, long ago, men wore togas!! What is a toga? a crude type of dress...

melissa

abbyleigh001
12-27-2012, 07:38 PM
Normal ... Would someone please describe normal... As for me I am gender-gifted and very comfortable within myself... And really.... I am not concerned for other views of normal...

MsJanessa
12-27-2012, 08:08 PM
When I dress it feels normal to me

Julie Gaum
12-27-2012, 08:15 PM
Every genius I have met or read about had some quirk, habit or life style that were DIFFERENT from the norm. Also applies to political, science
and business top achievers.Then the mores of a culture in one country can make people's way of living DIFFERENT from other countries. Belief in certain religions make their manner of living DIFFERENT from other religions. Very poor persons live in a DIFFERENT manner from the very rich
(with exceptions that make them DIFFERENT). The AMA in the last decade came out with a label for homosexuals that make them DIFFERENT from the norm (and applies to those CDs who are Bi) but hetero CDs have no official label other than being DIFFERENT. So lets just call most of us the "New Normal" and not worry about it---hurts one's health!
Julie

Jorja
12-27-2012, 10:51 PM
I am not strange, odd, or a freak that is a terrible rumor, started by those who fail to understand, appreciate, or comprehend the unique and interesting aspects and contradictions of my personality and character.

Cassandra90
12-27-2012, 10:56 PM
This has been my biggest problem over the past few years. Felling like a freak, purging, and then regretting that I purged. I wish it would go away. At, the same time, I'm a religious person. And, the battle continues. No matter what, we have to keep our heads up, or there will be those that take the opportunity to beat us up for how we feel and act.

Erica Marie
12-27-2012, 11:02 PM
When you can walk into a store and there is no mens dept and no womens dept, then things will be normal. I would say we are normal and rest of society is messed up and closed minded. When we can be looked at for who we are and not what we wear things will be much better.

Sheren Kelly
12-27-2012, 11:09 PM
I'm normal and I have verification...
I was shopping in Macys (DRAB) before Christmas and a woman came up to me and said "You're a NORMAL guy, would my boyfriend like this...?"

I had to suppress my smile, and the urge to direct her to the ladies department for something she probably didn't know he might actually want.

NathalieX66
12-27-2012, 11:14 PM
I'm a freak....you got a problem with that? (.....in my New Jersey accent)

For the most part, I feel pretty boring-ly normal as a person.

Xandra
12-27-2012, 11:24 PM
I might be sitting here in salmon-pink panties but I feel good about myself!

docrobbysherry
12-27-2012, 11:40 PM
Use ANY criteria u like, Marleena.

There's no way I'm freakin' normal!

PretzelGirl
12-28-2012, 10:42 AM
If you look around at others, the norm is to be different from all others. No group of people are made out of cookie cutters. So I am normal **because** I am unique. Embrace yourselves!

Missy
12-28-2012, 10:48 AM
Sad to say that I am not normal. Glad to say that I am not a freak. I am just me!

Eryn
12-28-2012, 12:08 PM
I dined at a crowded restaurant yesterday and the next table, which I was facing, was occupied by several children with little adult supervision. If they didn't notice me then I must be normal.

Kate Simmons
12-28-2012, 03:06 PM
Really, who is to determine what is "normal"? What is normal for one person may not be true of another. I think we are just fine. We just need to learn how to manage the "cards" we were dealt for whatever reason. THAT is what it is all about my friend.;):)

Stephanie47
12-28-2012, 03:46 PM
I am a normal cross dresser. I always wear a dress, hosiery and heels. I always wear proper undergarments; bra, panty and slip. I make sure my hair is brushed. Abnormal is a cross dresser who tries to emulate men by wearing jeans, even if they have pretty stitching, and, a top that differs only on the side the buttons are located. :)

bcpmax
12-28-2012, 04:24 PM
No we are not normal, but abnormal dose not equal freak, it equals unique. I feel Cd'ing is a trait that makes me stand out from the billion's of others out there which, at least to me, is a beautiful thing.

Ressie
12-28-2012, 05:41 PM
I appear so normal in male mode that my old friends must wonder "what's up with that"? But Reine once again has given a real answer to the question. Out of sample of 10,000 people we just don't fall in the range of normal on the bell curve. The words freak and freaky have mutated into several different meanings over the last few decades. Truthfully, the only way that we can appear normal is to pass as a GG IMHO.

Danni
12-28-2012, 06:10 PM
I think it's me coming to accept this part of me. The more I accept myself, the more I feel I'm normal.. at least normal for me.

lonster
12-28-2012, 07:00 PM
I definitely do not feel even remotely normal. But I don't think I'm freakish either! I am, as others have said, unique. And I enjoy uniqueness in others as much as I enjoy it in myself. What a bland and tasteless world we would have if all were the same flavor. I like being different...most of all, I like being able to dress how I want without feeling the need to conform to predefined rules and regulations.

Angela Campbell
12-28-2012, 07:48 PM
Really, who is to determine what is "normal"? What is normal for one person may not be true of another. I think we are just fine. We just need to learn how to manage the "cards" we were dealt for whatever reason. THAT is what it is all about my friend.;):)

I think my cards are all Queens

lonster
12-28-2012, 07:59 PM
Near perfect way to express the cards we are dealt...all queens.

I'd say I'm a perfect blend though...2 jacks 2 queens. No kings though...far too dominant male model for me!

JennyLynn
12-28-2012, 08:13 PM
Normal is in the mind of the beholder. If you are not hurting others and it is your passion, then it's okay in my book. I harm no one by being Jenny and it helps my overall being. That is a good thing. Let it be for you as well.

joanna marie
12-28-2012, 08:27 PM
since only about 3%-5% of individuals engage in this behavior.

when a biologist is trying to estimate the size of a deer population
it is assumed that that you only see about 1/3 of the total population in an area when doing animal counts

So if you apply the same theory to the CD population that would make us around 9-15% 0f the human population

docrobbysherry
12-28-2012, 09:35 PM
when a biologist is trying to estimate the size of a deer population
it is assumed that that you only see about 1/3 of the total population in an area when doing animal counts

So if you apply the same theory to the CD population that would make us around 9-15% 0f the human population
What if they're wrong? And, it's 50%? Or, 1.5 to 3%? What difference does it make, Joanna?

If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?
If "all" those others dressers do it in private, in a vacuum, do they count? Should they?

lonster
12-28-2012, 09:49 PM
The answer to the age old question: If a tree fall in the forest and there's no one to hear it, does it make a noise? ...the answer is "NO" it does not make a noise, it makes a sound. Noise is a sound that has been received by a hearer and interpretted as unpleasant. So if no one is around to hear it...it's not a noise, just a sound.

Sunny50
12-29-2012, 04:29 AM
It never seems to fail that someone is worried about us girls being normal. If I had to answer this then in truth we are more normal, Loving, sharing, caring, acceptable of others, and possibly even more giving do to our duality and don't forget our sensitivity. Can't tell you how many of both gender have expressed how they wish they could understand their SO better and be more comfortable bringing up different subjects as comfortably as I often do. I think there are times when everyone should remember that we are all humans sharing the same time span of life. Freaks, never....Human Beings, forever....

Joann Smith
12-29-2012, 05:12 AM
He'll yeah .....I am a SUPERFREAK...

k lynn
12-29-2012, 05:25 AM
I'm normal for me, and that's all I can be:) I'm happy with that.

There was a time I felt out of place now I am me and have inner piece

Raychel
12-29-2012, 05:54 AM
You know now that I think about it, I never really felt that I fit in anywhere. But As long as I am dressed up as a woman I feel totallly normal. I really doo feel good about me.
So am I normal or a freak. I guess I am normal if I am dressed but a freak if I am in guy mode.

Foxglove
12-29-2012, 07:03 AM
If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?



The answer to the age old question: If a tree fall in the forest and there's no one to hear it, does it make a noise? ...the answer is "NO" it does not make a noise, it makes a sound.

Or as some wit asked, "If a man says something in the forest and there's no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"

But to get to topic at hand, are we freaks? Here are some definitions of the word from my dictionary:

--A person, animal or plant that is abnormal or deformed.
--An object, event, etc., that is abnormal.
--Inf. A person who acts or dresses in a markedly unconventional way.

I'm not sure this helps. What is "abnormal"? Well, something outside the norm, but the word has pejorative connotations--just like "freak". So we might as well stick with "freak". But look at the last definition. If we take that one, we're certainly freaks. But I suspect this sense of the word was invented by some transphobe, so maybe we should ignore it.

But if we go by the first definition, we could include as "freaks" such people as Siamese twins or those suffering from Downs Syndrome or dwarfism. I don't think any of us would apply that term to such people, though. I believe we're more compassionate than that. So why apply the term to ourselves?

So are we normal? Certainly not. We're well outside the norm--but really who wants to be normal? Most normal people are OK, but they don't exactly inspire me to imitate them.

So I think I'll continue to be me, neither freak nor normal, "just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania."

Amanda M
12-29-2012, 07:59 AM
Of course we are normal - for most of us we just happen to prefer certain types of clothing which are normally those worn by women. If a woman can confidently live most of her life in trousers -as most GGs do - is she normal? I should think so!

A certain part of the mental health profession has spent to much time and effort pathologising different types of human behavior. At least it seems now that DSM-5 is goin g to be an improvement in that area. Just a thought - is anal sex normal?

Marleena
12-29-2012, 10:17 AM
A certain part of the mental health profession has spent to much time and effort pathologising different types of human behavior. At least it seems now that DSM-5 is goin g to be an improvement in that area. Just a thought - is anal sex normal?

Being Transgender and dressing enfemme is not illegal but anal sex is illegal in some States. Is anal sex normal, I would think so. It used to be taboo but that's another thread.

Valeri
12-29-2012, 10:27 AM
I am freakin' normal.
Or am I normal freak ;)

Felt a freak growing up, with information now available I now feel normal. And what is Normal? I don't think there is such a thing.

This made me smile...Thanks Becky! I totally agree and ponder...lol

Cathytg
12-29-2012, 11:39 PM
The recent statement from the medical world says it so very well: Being transgendered is not a pathological condition at all; the way each of deals with, however, might be called "ill". How many of us who are life-long CDers felt stressed nearly to the point of being suicidal (not a healthy condition, right?) Yet, many of these same ladies now have learned to accept their gender role and are perfectly healthy. It's all in how each of deals with it.

Diversity
12-30-2012, 02:07 AM
Hi Marleena,
I agree with you in that I also believe that we are normal, but just different than most of the general public. I also believe that we are on a higher spiritual plane, as we have grown to experiment, recognize, and accept ourselves, as we are, from within our deepest spiritual sanctum. This self-awareness and learning is ongoing.
Di

Juantia
12-30-2012, 08:35 AM
what is normal really? who makes the rules what is normal or what is a freak. i say i am crazy but that does not make me crazy. the only person that needs to feel normal is yourself be dam with anyone says otherwise.

sometimes_miss
12-30-2012, 12:58 PM
I read a quote recently that stated, "Normal people are the ones you just don't know very well."

Truer words were never spoken. Or written.

^this. No one is completely 'normal'; everyone has something about them that doesn't fit whatever the majority of the members of the society consider average. Far too many people get too hung up on trying to feel that they 'fit in', in order to be accepted by the masses. No one is accepted by everyone. No one.

Cindia
12-30-2012, 01:14 PM
He'll yeah .....I am a SUPERFREAK...

I'm with you, I hope I'm not normal. Normal is usually boring