Being referred to as a girl...

[Nanaya]

Something I've noticed on this forum is that everyone has a tendency to refer to others as girls. And while I can definitely understand why... It's something that makes me uncomfortable. While most people here think of themselves as women, it's not the case for everyone. I'm a boy, and though I am a crossdresser, I still want to be referred to as a boy.

I think calling everyone "ladies" is generalizing a bit, in a way. And it's something that should be fixed, for the sake of crossdressers like me who don't feel like women and don't want to be referred to as such.

[Kate Simmons]

I think the term "ladies" is just an expression. Even "Muscleman" on "The Regular Show" cartoon calls the rest of them "ladies". Personally, I try not to make generalizations for the most part and never assume everyone wants to be referred to as a "she" but it seems to be like a "shot in the arm" for many here. Who am I to disagree with that? :)

[Angela Campbell]

I figure that if they appear as female, and are going by a female name, then they should be referred to as a female. Otherwise they should be referred to as they want to be. It is never done as an insult in any case.

[Nanaya]

To be fair, I'm not going out of my way to appear as female, I just like female clothes. I like male clothes equally, I find both beautiful and wear both.

As for my name, Nanaya is not a female name, just a genderless nickname. My one and only real name is Naoya, which is a male name.

[Yvonne York]

I just like being a girl so am very happy to be called one.

[sometimes_miss]

It just goes to show you that it's really more than just the clothes; a whole lot of people here subconsciously want to be female, and love the feeling of being referred to as such. Otherwise, there would be no desire to be referred to as a 'she', and even the concept of it occuring would be considered at the very least, just incorrect grammer. Yet, most here embrace it whole heartedly. I understand;, remember, there's a huge stigma attached to this, and even those of us who understand the phenomenon often feel guilty about something that we shouldn't have to. So, call yourselves whatever you want, whatever makes you feel better. That's why this forum is here, or at least that's how I look at it.

[Annaliese]

Then why have a girl name.

[I Am Paula]

I understand your concern, as not everyone on this forum is nessasarily transgendered. However, try to convey greetings to everybody, in a short missive, is difficult indeed. Just to voice an opinion, he/ she should technically start every post with:
Greeting ladies, men, bi-gender, genderfluid, weekend dragqueen, intersexed, slight to moderate GID, transexuals, and panty lovers.
That's just too much work. We need one word titles, and 'Ladies' got chosen. It's NEVER meant as an insult.-Celeste

[ColleenA]

For 30 years, I crossdressed but did not have a "femme self." It was only when I started going to CD sites that I even bothered coming up with a femme name to use. And while Colleen is not a person or even a personality on her own, it still feels better to be called Colleen (with related terms and pronouns) when I am in "girl mode."

Don't know if this works, but riffing off the top of my head, I'm thinking it's like when I'm interacting with my kids. They call me Dad, and I am in Dad mode, something that doesn't happen except in interaction with them. It would be just as weird to be called Dad at work as it would be to be called Colleen.

[Megan70]

I thought I was the ONLY one on this site feeling that way but was glib to speak up for fear of ostracizing. I do and have felt very uneasy being considered one of the group of girls and being referred to as such or its synonym equivalent gorls, girlfriend, or worst of all CD Brooklynese talk " Gurlz". Yo!, count me out. If You want to email, pm or reply to a post I much prefer no addressing or just Megan, as a role-playing alias only.To answer Annaliese as to why have a girls name? I can't very well have a Avatar or profile shot and under it be called " Joe" as some sort of 'character ' identity is need for forum only I'm only a CD who enjoys playing and looking the part of a woman, cause I look and feel better about myself than an ugly man. For myself and not denigrating others as to their calling I am not a TG, TS or anything else other than a boy/ guy who is happy in my gender role. I have no need to explore my inner self or find my feminine side. There is none. Just some cool three hour out in public method acting role playing, them home, wipe off the face, take off the wig and back to me... A Guy. My opinion of myself only

[Ms. Laura]

I must admit, I had not considered that I'd be offending someone's sensibilities on a CD Forum by referring to them as ladies. I mean, jeez, it's just polite convention. If you're presenting as female, then it only seems appropriate. In you're case Nanaya, to a whitebread Euro/American like me, anything ending in "aya" is interpreted as female. But, please don't make much of it.

And, you could put "Joe" under your avatar, that would be cool. I think we choose a fem name to be more anonymous however, if you don't feel that you have a fem personality, or are female, that is.

As for me, I want to be one of the girls, but whatever you want is cool too!

[Bo-peep]

Something I've noticed on this forum is that everyone has a tendency to refer to others as girls. And while I can definitely understand why... It's something that makes me uncomfortable. While most people here think of themselves as women, it's not the case for everyone. I'm a boy, and though I am a crossdresser, I still want to be referred to as a boy.

I think calling everyone "ladies" is generalizing a bit, in a way. And it's something that should be fixed, for the sake of crossdressers like me who don't feel like women and don't want to be referred to as such.

I for one am pleased you have said how you feel ... as GG I like to try learn all about different views from different people and I am grateful that you have explained how you feel; it is, I guess, because it gets pretty scary reading some of the posts on here when my SO has revealed he is a cder .... I am trying to work out if there will be a time when he wants to 'progress' or if it is likely he will remain like you ... a guy who likes to wear womens clothing but does not want to become a woman. I love him and want him to be happy, but I need to be happy too, and I would not be happy if he chose to become too girlie or, God forbid, if he wanted to become a woman full time. Thanks again Nanaya :)

[Karren H]

Funny back in the 70's we had an old executive VP who referee to all of us male staff as girls and ladies..... I never took offence then and I don't now..... guess if you don't like what people are saying you can always go find somewhere where they call everyone "man" or "dude"? lol


Then why have a girl name.

Good point!

[AprilCross]

Everyone who crossdress is different, some do it just for the clothes but some have the whole female personality that goes with it. Its hard to define on a board when we all have the same interest which is dressing in female clothing. As for me i have a female side so i don't mind it when you refer to me as a lady

[AshleyScott]

I think calling everyone "ladies" is generalizing a bit, in a way. And it's something that should be fixed, for the sake of crossdressers like me who don't feel like women and don't want to be referred to as such.

Mes amis, bonjour...

I'm not convinced Nanaya that this thread is going anywhere. Some members like to be referred to in the feminine and others aren't too bothered.

I have a name that is mostly considered to be a girl's name. But, actually, when my mother gave it to me she did so because she was attracted to a very masculine character from the film "Gone With The Wind" called Ashley.

I like to wear feminine clothing, because... But I don't try to pass as a women. If I get the chance to come back and live life as a woman, I may change my mind about being one. Who knows?

I'll try to remember to refer to you as masculine, as that is what you prefer. But how you address me... pas de soucis. :brolleyes:

[NicoleScott]

The first rule should be to call people what they want to be called. My given name has a few nicknames, but I don't like to be called any of them, and introduce myself using my given name. I don't get offended when I am called by another name, unless I have already identified myself and used the name I prefer to be called. I still don't express my displeasure - I just don't answer to that name.
Even though I am a guy who likes to dress up occasionally, I have a female name and show my en femme pic. So I should be referred to as "she". Some members here use a generic or male name, and want to be called "he". Seems simple enough to call people what they want to be called.
But, it gets tricky sometimes. Sissystephanie, for example, has made it clear many times that he is a guy who likes to wear women's clothes and want to be referred to as "he", but uses a female name. That may not be known at first to a newcomer to the forum. Another situation on the forum that may allow for a bending of the rules is a post in response to crossdressing/marital issues. For clarity, it may be best to refer to "he" and "she" even though the "he" is a CD with a feminine identity, female name and pic.

[Georgia_Maine]

Personally I much prefer being addressed as a "lady" than a "girl". First, I'm much too old to be mistaken for a girl. Second, my definition of a lady is someone who is feminine in their appearance and dress, no matter their sex, and behaves in a civil manner. That seems to be everyone here on this forum.

Gigi

[Stephanie Miller]

I'm thinking there are a little less than a gazzillion members here. If I was also guessing, I would say less than 5% are uncomfortable being "labeled" as female.
Isn't your position the same as a vegan joining the cattlemans association and then complaining? I mean they are welcome to join, they know what the association is.......
Guess I just don't get it :idontknow:

[AngieStone]

Megan you have this saying ,"Just go out there and be the best damn little girl you can be honey... walk proud in those big girl shoes", you have Holly Hunter wannabe above your Megan Avatar, but you do not want to be referred to as a woman. You go out for three hours a day in public dressed as a woman are you looking for people to call you dude? Megan you have me a little confused about why you are upset if someone on this forum might refer to you as a girl. If you don't want to be called a lady then if it was me I would not try so hard to standout as one. Just my observation.

[mikiSJ]

It seems to me Nanaya that you are more interested in Cosplay than in CDing.

I crossdress because I like being a girl/woman/lady sometimes and I would be annoyed with myself if I couldn't pull it off well enough to not look like a bloke in a dress.

But, we will call you a guy if you want!

[geri-tg.]

I enjoy the term girl or women. Thats what I want to be when on this site. HUGS Geri

[Cassandra Lynn]

Don't take it personal, it's just that this site has a rather large membership and the majorty has kinda been allowed to rule, as that is how such things tend to go.
One would think that after 47(ish) posts and a month and change in time spent here, you'd have gotten the feel for things and not let it bother you?

Genderless names like yours can be difficult to guage.

It's up to you tho, perhaps you should look at how comfortable you really are here and see if you might not be a good fit?

[Paulette]

All I can say is if I take the time to perfect my makeup and wear clothes that make me look feminine then I want to be called girl,lady,madame, or for that matter you can even call me a bitch.

[NicoleScott]

Isn't your position the same as a vegan joining the cattlemans association and then complaining?

Good one......I've got to write that one down.

[Persephone]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/sandylewiscares/signs3.jpg

This forum has a great many people of a great many different persuasions. I'm reasonably certain that the vast majority prefer to be referred to as women, ladies, girls, etc.


I'm a boy, and though I am a crossdresser, I still want to be referred to as a boy.

If you prefer to be related to as a male, which would likely be an exception, I'm sure that the members here would be glad to accommodate your request. But it may require a bit of a reminder since it is the exception rather than the rule. Perhaps you could add a signature line that says "Call me 'Boy.'"

Hugs,
Persephone.

To add a signature line, click on "Settings" on the upper right of the screen, scroll down to "My Settings" on the left, click on "Edit Signature".

[Julie1123]

When I first joined I thought it would be strange to be referred to as a girl. Had a male screen name and didn't think I would want to be called by a female name. I can't quite remember why it changed. Now I don't mind, actually kind of like it.

I think Persephone gives some good advice. Naturally this place has some blurred lines when it comes to gender and things can be pretty muddled on how to refer to each other. A helpful reminder for others would probably go a long way.

[Megan70]

Megan you have this saying ,"Just go out there and be the best damn little girl you can be honey... walk proud in those big girl shoes", you have Holly Hunter wannabe above your Megan Avatar, but you do not want to be referred to as a woman. You go out for three hours a day in public dressed as a woman are you looking for people to call you dude? Megan you have me a little confused about why you are upset if someone on this forum might refer to you as a girl. If you don't want to be called a lady then if it was me I would not try so hard to standout as one. Just my observation.

Ah... just the rambling thought of a bi-polar guy who had a capricious day years ago of impulse and spontenarity that was for that moment with my tag line and Holly Hunter I.D.
So.....Next thursday I'll think of something else and want to be Zexburp167z from planet ZyborgX. Your observation is well taken Angie and all in good light. Cheers to you!

[ClosetED]

I understand where the OP is coming from. To keep me clear abut myself, I prefer to use a 'he' pronoun for myself. I fall into the spectrum as a man who likes to wear women's clothing for short periods. But it is fine to also choose a feminine name to refer to the feminine aspects or temporary personae as a way to make that state clearer. But the majority here have chosen a feminine name and prefer to be referred, while on this site, by that. So majority wins and the feminine pronoun gets used unless someone expresses a clear desire to not have it used, and please forgive any who don't know you well enough to abide by it.

[reb.femme]

Don't take it personal, it's just that this site has a rather large membership and the majorty has kinda been allowed to rule, as that is how such things tend to go.
One would think that after 47(ish) posts and a month and change in time spent here, you'd have gotten the feel for things and not let it bother you?

Genderless names like yours can be difficult to guage.

It's up to you tho, perhaps you should look at how comfortable you really are here and see if you might not be a good fit?

I completely agree with Cassandra.

Are we to consult a list prior to posting on to how to address members for fear of upsetting individuals? I'll put my neck on the line and say the majority prefer to present and be called by femme terms, so I'll continue in that vein. If you use a male name, I'll use that and the correct pronouns when conversing with you directly, but I/we cannot be asked to consider individual idiosyncrasies in general posts.

This has been for quite a while, if I'm not mistaken, a site were males present as female. Therefore, female nouns and pronouns are for the most part 'de rigueur'. As Stephanie said by way of analogy, "vegan joining the cattleman's association.....".

Rebecca

[Foxglove]

Something I've noticed on this forum is that everyone has a tendency to refer to others as girls. And while I can definitely understand why... It's something that makes me uncomfortable. While most people here think of themselves as women, it's not the case for everyone. I'm a boy, and though I am a crossdresser, I still want to be referred to as a boy.

I think calling everyone "ladies" is generalizing a bit, in a way. And it's something that should be fixed, for the sake of crossdressers like me who don't feel like women and don't want to be referred to as such.

I generally avoid this problem by starting a thread with, "Hi, Guys and Girls!", or "Hi, Everybody!" And I might refer to members as "people" or "folks". The only time I use "ladies" or "girls" is when those are the ones that I'm specifically talking to--e.g., on the Make-up and Beauty forum.


And while Colleen is not a person or even a personality on her own, it still feels better to be called Colleen (with related terms and pronouns) when I am in "girl mode."


Did you know that "Colleen" is the Irish for "girl"?


Sissystephanie, for example, has made it clear many times that he is a guy who likes to wear women's clothes and want to be referred to as "he", but uses a female name.

On another forum I'm a member of (our local Irish forum) beneath your avatar where there's info about you--join date, location, etc.--you can also indicate your preferred pronouns if you want to. Maybe that would be a good idea for this forum.

[ReineD]

To be fair, I'm not going out of my way to appear as female, I just like female clothes. I like male clothes equally, I find both beautiful and wear both.

As for my name, Nanaya is not a female name, just a genderless nickname. My one and only real name is Naoya, which is a male name.

This:


Don't take it personal, it's just that this site has a rather large membership and the majorty has kinda been allowed to rule, as that is how such things tend to go.
One would think that after 47(ish) posts and a month and change in time spent here, you'd have gotten the feel for things and not let it bother you?

Genderless names like yours can be difficult to guage.

And this:



This forum has a great many people of a great many different persuasions. I'm reasonably certain that the vast majority prefer to be referred to as women, ladies, girls, etc.

If you prefer to be related to as a male, which would likely be an exception, I'm sure that the members here would be glad to accommodate your request. But it may require a bit of a reminder since it is the exception rather than the rule. Perhaps you could add a signature line that says "Call me 'Boy.'"

To add a signature line, click on "Settings" on the upper right of the screen, scroll down to "My Settings" on the left, click on "Edit Signature".



Has anyone referred to you specifically as "she", or called you "girl", or do you object to posting in threads where the opening greeting is "Hi girls"? You'll be happier if you tell yourself that most people here do strive to present as females in addition to having chosen obviously female names, and to use male pronouns would clash. But, you can tell yourself that the "Hi girls" greetings is not meant for you. When I see a thread that starts with "Hi Girls", I know it is intended for the crossdressers and not the genetic females and I just don't count myself as being part of the intended audience.

[Julie Denier]

For 99.9 percent of my life, I'm all guy and proud to be. But when I'm here, I'm happy to be one of the girls ;)

[LauraBird]

I think most of what needs to be said, has been said already. This site is definitely a HUGE melting pot of people. From people who are happy being nothing more than a "guy in a dress" all the way out to people who believe they were born the wrong gender.

I think it's wise to exercise some prudence when speaking and tolerance when spoken to for the spectrum of people that reside here - just like we hope/ask/expect the same from the general public.

[Angela Campbell]

I guess it bothers you to be referred to as a "lady" as much as it bothers me to be referred to as a "guy" . Thats ok. No one here is out to insult anyone.

[Cheryl T]

I figure that if they appear as female, and are going by a female name, then they should be referred to as a female. Otherwise they should be referred to as they want to be. It is never done as an insult in any case.

I totally agree.
I certainly don't go through all the time and effort to look as feminine as possible so that I can be called HIM!
I certainly don't feel like a HIM when I'm dressed and prefer that I be acknowledged as the woman I appear to be and feel I am inside.

[Brittany CD]

I see what you mean. I would hate it if people were calling me a girl. But on this sight it's just something we do

[Leah Lynn]

When I'm on this forum, or in public, I well expect to be referred to with adjectives and pronouns of the feminine persuasion.

[Rianna Humble]

Something I've noticed on this forum is that everyone has a tendency to refer to others as girls. And while I can definitely understand why... It's something that makes me uncomfortable.

Do you think that that might be because this is a Male to Female forum? Is it not likely that most people will assume that the majority of participants in such a forum would want to be referred to as their target presentation?


While most people here think of themselves as women, it's not the case for everyone. I'm a boy, and though I am a crossdresser, I still want to be referred to as a boy.

That;'s fine, when people who have read this post wish to refer to you specifically, then we will try to remember what you have said.


I think calling everyone "ladies" is generalizing a bit, in a way. And it's something that should be fixed, for the sake of crossdressers like me who don't feel like women and don't want to be referred to as such.

Perhaps you would like a rule which says that all those addressing the wider audience in the Male to Female section should remember that there are some who do not want to be included in the general greeting?

How many exceptions would you consider to be reasonable?

Should we go for something like:

Hi ladies, or if you don't like ladies, girls, or if you don't like girls, other MtF's or if you don't like that .... and Nanaya and SissieStephanie and ...
Or do you think that might start to become a little long?

[minalost]

Don't take it personal, it's just that this site has a rather large membership and the majorty has kinda been allowed to rule, as that is how such things tend to go.

This seems to come up about every six months or so, and the quote from Cassandra above sums up my thoughs on the matter very well. I will just add that I, like MANY here, as shown by the responses so far, PREFER her, she, girl or lady, to he, him, dude, or man...

[Deedee Skyblue]

I am male; I will continue to be male for the rest of my life. I have no desire to actually be female. But I also really really enjoy dressing in female clothes. I think it is a kick to be called 'she'. One other thing to consider - the English language is changing, and the preferred pronoun for a person whose gender you don't know is now 'she' instead of 'he'.

Deedee

[carhill2mn]

I can understand how you feel. When I first learned about and then interacted with CDs and other "trans" people I, too, had difficulty understanding why feminine pronouns were used. As I became more comfortable with myself as a CD and had more exposure to people similar to me, I began to better understand why people used the feminine pronouns and I also began to use them.

In many instances, use of the feminine pronouns is used to imply that the person is in "fem" mode (whether actually "dressed" at the time or not). Many of us prefer the feminine pronoun when refering to our feminine personna.

[Gaby2]

Hi Nanaya!
I used to have similar reservations... and at times I still wonder sometimes whether "girl-gurl-girly" labels offend anybody in any way.
I hope not.
I think your OP is simply looking for more clarification on the subject.
You will probably become more comfortable with these and similar labels as time goes by.

As I'm not convinced by my appearance when dressed, it's sometimes nice to be referred to as a "lady" or "pretty woman".
I interpret it as a sincere compliment for my efforts and find it most encouraging.

:hugs: Gaby :)

[Nanaya]

I'm thinking there are a little less than a gazzillion members here. If I was also guessing, I would say less than 5% are uncomfortable being "labeled" as female.
Isn't your position the same as a vegan joining the cattlemans association and then complaining? I mean they are welcome to join, they know what the association is.......
Guess I just don't get it :idontknow:

Not really. I'm a crossdresser joining a crossdresser's forum and noting my discomfort at a particular thing. Personally, I don't really see what's wrong with that, it's not like I outright complained, I just said it made me uncomfortable.



Also, in response to greetings, it's simple. Instead of "Hi ladies" or "Hi ladie, X, Y, Z, A, B, C", you can just say "Hi everyone", which is a rather common way to greet everyone without being particular about who you're greeting. But I think a lot of good points were raised, too. I think it's just something to keep in mind, more so than a really serious problem.


You will probably become more comfortable with these and similar labels as time goes by.

Well, I have explored acting like a girl before, being called a she, and stuff. For more than a year, too. Honestly, it wasn't an enjoyable experience, and I think my discomfort may actually stem from that.

[Eryn]

Hmm, joining a CDing forum that has been running for many years and immediately wanting the thousands of existing members to change their manner of address? That seems to be a bit presumptuous!

There are parts of the forum, such as the Lounge, that are intended for everyone and the preferred form of address there is "Hi everyone". MtF Crossdressing is intended for males who present as female so "Hi ladies" is the preferred form here.

[Nanaya]

Hmm, joining a CDing forum that has been running for many years and immediately wanting the thousands of existing members to change their manner of address? That seems to be a bit presumptuous!

There are parts of the forum, such as the Lounge, that are intended for everyone and the preferred form of address there is "Hi everyone". MtF Crossdressing is intended for males who present as female so "Hi ladies" is the preferred form here.

Well, it's not like I'm demanding it. I'm just asking, and in a rather friendly matter if I might add. I won't think less of anyone for continuing, I just think it'd be a way to accommodate all crossdressers, and not just those who want to be girls. But that's just me. I'm not merely asking for myself, I'm asking for me and anyone who feels like me. I would think that crossdressers suffered enough at the hands of "Majority over minority", that it'd be only natural for us to catter to our own minorities.

[docrobbysherry]

I'll try to remember to call u, "Dude", dude!

But, it would have been a whole lot easier for me if you had called yourself, Winston, or, Ronald, or Dick!

[AmyGaleRT]

As I've said elsewhere, I follow the same policy I would in Second Life. If someone is presenting as female, I will refer to them as such, which might include addressing them as "girlfriend" if it fits what I'm saying. I would hope that others would extend the same courtesy to me.

I actually like the "girl talk" aspects of this forum, the way we can all feel comfortable to let our hair down and be women together. I'll never look down on anyone else for feeling otherwise, though.

- Amy

[Lynn Marie]

It's quite normal among CD's to refer to each other as "girls" or "ladies" and to use the proper pronoun "she" and "her". You'd understand this if you got out with other "girls". When in boy mode we try to use each other's boy names and "he" and "him". You get corrected when you use the wrong pronoun, it takes awhile to get it right all the time.

It's sort of like using the proper restroom. You go to the one you are presenting as. Quite simple, really.

[Debglam]

Nanaya,

I'll call you, and anyone else whatever they prefer. However, I'd say the majority of us here have a "feminine persona" to some extent, and there are quite a few women on this site, so using a feminine greeting is probably a safe bet in a post to the membership. No offense intended.

I DO get a little miffed when they refer to me as "sugar britches" though! :heehee:

Welcome,
Debby

[marny]

Something I've noticed on this forum is that everyone has a tendency to refer to others as girls. And while I can definitely understand why... It's something that makes me uncomfortable. While most people here think of themselves as women, it's not the case for everyone. I'm a boy, and though I am a crossdresser, I still want to be referred to as a boy.

I think calling everyone "ladies" is generalizing a bit, in a way. And it's something that should be fixed, for the sake of crossdressers like me who don't feel like women and don't want to be referred to as such.

you are one of the few sweetie. we are girls.

[MissTee]

My preference: When I'm in Misty mode, I have the girl power turned on. Thus, address me as a lady. :battingeyelashes:

[Julie Gaum]

Boy (an expression), a few sensitive people posting and maybe confused about their identities? In my past business life I've used "girls" and "boys" at various times when greeting a mixed gender group. When giving a formal speach to a group it's usually "Ladies and Gentlemen" so what's the big deal?
My name on the forum is "Julie" so obviously me and most others here have no problem being referred to as girls or ladies. In my humble opinion those few who object may still be wrestling with their identities. Hopefully they will eventually understand who they are so that being called 'girl" will no longer be offensive, i.e., being comfortable in one's own skin.
To Bo-peep (GG), trying to be constructive: I hate to see you feeling so insecure as to your SO's future. May I suggest more communication --- a long sit-down with him to tell him your fears. Yours is very common and understandable and most of the time groundless. There is no need for you to continue along that path.
Julie

[Jessica S]

Nanaya,

I get what your saying. When I first joined it made me uncomfortable too. I still not comfortable with the "you go girl" and "hugs and kisses" statements but it not for me but it could be something that someone else appreciates.

I changed my name for after along time here to a girls name after my wife actually said my name should be Jessica. I am a guy that likes to dress but will put on make up and all. I know I don't want to be a girl.

But I just to the mental exercise in my head and change the pronouns for a she to he. I will sometimes use both pronouns to cover all bases as in "he/she".

[Beverley Sims]

I think we will all realize over time that you do not wish to be addressed that way and we will avoid it.

[ReluctantDebutant]

I took my name from a play I heard referenced in a Monty Python sketch. It was pithy and summed up how I feel about Cross-dressing. I too am a guy who feels that I don't change sex/gender with my clothing. It can sometimes feel like being a minority within a minority. I don't mind all the female pronouns Its just the customs and culture of the community we are in. Its not that it is a problem it just feels false when you hear it applied to you.

[Jamie001]

I don't mind being referred to as a girl, or a sissy, or a Nancy. It is all fine with me because all of the names really do fit.

[Asche]

I don't consider myself a "girl," either. Nor a lady, a "gurl" or whatever.

However, unlike most people here, I have no interest in being seen as female. So when people write "you girls" (or whatever), I just figure they're not talking to me.